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Facebook Launches "Home" For Android

Nerval's Lobster writes "Facebook has announced "Home" for Android smartphones (and, eventually, tablets). It's something less than a full Facebook mobile operating system, as some expected before the company's presentation, and more like an app update. Facebook also announced the Facebook Home Program, which will work with several carriers and device makers to pre-load Home onto select devices, including ones built by Samsung, Sony, ZTE, and Lenovo. The first "Home" phone will be the HTC First, a $99.99 phone that will ship April 12 from AT&T. Facebook chief executive Mark Zuckerberg told analysts and journalists assembled for his presentation that Home was designed to reorient the phone and the Facebook mobile experience around people, not apps: "On one level, Home is the next mobile version of Facebook. On the other, it's a change in the relationship with the next generation of computing devices." Home essentially is a custom start screen for your Android phone, replacing the home screen with one centered on Facebook. While users can access other Android apps on the phone, the focus is on those apps that run on the Facebook platform. Home can also be enabled as a lock screen." Reader RougeFemme points out that France Telecom/Orange will be the first carrier in Europe.

138 comments

  1. Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No thank you.

    1. Re:Umm.. by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed... and fuck them for their preloading bullshit. ... and they wonder why we want to root our phones...

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    2. Re:Umm.. by aralin · · Score: 1

      Not available in iOS. In related news, the smartphone share of iOS in US rose by 4% while Andriod dropped by 2%.

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    3. Re:Umm.. by ottothecow · · Score: 1
      Umm..Do you realize that most of the iOS phones are being used for facebook ~25% of the time*? I don't see how an android only facebook launch-screen would raise iOS market share.

      *based on observations on the bus during my morning commute...android phones are being used for Facebook at a roughly equal percentage (but maybe it is just easier to tell when some guy at the front of the bus is on facebook when he's got a galaxy note).

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    4. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Ever since iOS 6.1, you've been able to post to Facebook simply by accessing the Notification Center.

    5. Re: Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe GP was using hyperbole to convey his opinion that this FB Home Shit will lose its novelty quickly and will result in a decline in new Android purchases when the FB addicts post their dismay on FB (the only means of communication they will have on these devices). These Android Orphans will drift aimlessly until they are captured by the dark side where people like me will welcome them with open arms and the last line of Hotel California

    6. Re:Umm.. by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      Lets put a 20MB obsolete version of the facebook app on the system partition. Then as soon as I buy the phone I'll need to download another 20MB version from the play store...

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    7. Re:Umm.. by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      This. Removing the fucking Facebook virus that resisted all attempts to kill the process or opt out is why I spent most of a Saturday rooting my first Android phone.

      The type of people who want Facebook are the type that will take the 5 seconds it takes to install that garbage on their phone, so why in hell would you preload it?

    8. Re:Umm.. by mikeiver1 · · Score: 1

      Facebook can suck shit through a dead rats ass! I have none to negative interest in them, their crappy service, or a data mining software package that runs on my phone 24/7. Zucker can suck my pucker!

    9. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Confession: I occasionally use Facebook.

      That said, I have always resisted installing the app (using the web page is good enough for me), or even giving them my mobile telephone number (as if I'll forget "password123").

  2. When do we return to real tech? by concealment · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The last 15 years of internet dominance have been neat, but it seems like all of the "inventions" are clever ways to interact with each other. Entertainment and consumer products are booming, but what actual technologies are we inventing? Or to put it another way: what opportunities have gone past while we've been inventing toys and minting teenage millionaires?

    1. Re:When do we return to real tech? by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Know that tiny device in your pocket that responds to touch and lets you browse the entirety of human knowledge, play games or work from a beach in Tahiti while still letting you call Mom once a week to let her know you're alive? Yeah, that's what technology we invented in the last 15 years. If that doesn't impress you, I'm not sure what will.

    2. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last 15 years of internet dominance have been neat, but it seems like all of the "inventions" are clever ways to interact with each other. Entertainment and consumer products are booming, but what actual technologies are we inventing? Or to put it another way: what opportunities have gone past while we've been inventing toys and minting teenage millionaires?

      Social Networks are technology.

    3. Re:When do we return to real tech? by instagib · · Score: 1

      In the past, the driving force behind technology was war. These days it is the quarterly profit report. There's a lot of technology behind both efforts. The former focuses on dominatiing the enemy, the latter on selling items fast. Choose your poison.

    4. Re:When do we return to real tech? by 0123456 · · Score: 0

      So just like my laptop fifteen years ago, but smaller and doesn't need a modem cable plugged into the wall any more.

      I am so impressed by your rapid progress of technological evolution.

    5. Re:When do we return to real tech? by P-niiice · · Score: 1

      I thought my phone (SGS3) was far more powerful than a 15-year old laptop, and was much, much smaller. It can also play high-def movies, navigate for me, and take decent photos. Sounds like you need a good phone, or at least play with one so you can discuss this with people who know.

    6. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You should be. We worked hard making components smaller, CPUs more energy efficient, touch screens more reliable, operating systems better suited for mobile environments, improved battery power density, created wireless protocols to support higher data rates, and constructed enough radio towers to support all this.

      You act like it should have happened overnight.

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    7. Re:When do we return to real tech? by vux984 · · Score: 2

      So just like my laptop fifteen years ago, but smaller and doesn't need a modem cable plugged into the wall any more.

      smaller (fits in a brief case to fits in a pocket)

      faster (can download a picture in a minute or two to can stream video at higher resolution than your 15 year old laptop)

      memory / storage ( thousands of times more of both)

      touch screen (vs look screens?)

      and all that with no cables

      I am so impressed by your rapid progress of technological evolution.

      I am. I can't imagine why you are being sarcastic.

    8. Re:When do we return to real tech? by P-niiice · · Score: 1

      sorry, my above reply isn't meant for you.

    9. Re:When do we return to real tech? by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Yes, just like your laptop from 15 years ago that had a cable plugged into the wall. But removing that cable took the collective effort of a $trillion (probably) industry. Could your laptop scale one of its 9 different radios (2G/3G/4G/Bluetooth/Wifi/near field/AM/FM/GPS) up to 64-QAM on the fly based on geography while maintaining a connection for you to watch youtube in your car? How bout doing it for 6-7 hours without being plugged into the wall with a weight measured in grams? I mean, high speed bluetooth starts a packet using the bluetooth protocol and then mid-packet switches to wifi protocol to get higher throughput. That's pretty amazing to me because I've had to deal with stuff like protocol stacks.

      The fact that all this crazy innovation works so seamlessly that people never need to care what happens behind the scenes is probably the most impressive demonstration of rapid progress I can think of. But just in case, check out all the progress made mapping genomes, robotics, space missions, etc. Anytime you want to be amazed, just take a quick peek below the surface of anything that goes on in your daily life.

    10. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hrm
      just what does it take for an invention to not be a toy?
      a couple hot techs today:
      * cellphones- toys or useful invention that allows you to meetup with ppl even when plans change and call for help on the side of the road, or photograph rioter, abusive police and your baby's first steps.
      * gps navigation toys or useful tools that eliminate stacks of wasteful maps, allow you to navigate quickly to places you have never been, and reduce traffic by letting you easily see traffic jams and choose alternative routes?

    11. Re:When do we return to real tech? by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Couple quick thoughts:
      - Advanced carbon fiber manufacturing making wind power very close to an honest to goodness viable power source (I'm talking free market style...give it a few more years)
      - Better batteries that enable a normal looking and driving car to go over 200 miles on a 1 hour charge
      - Process improvements making 24" LCD screens viable for less than $200
      - The whole semiconductor industry making tech so freaking cheap
      - Probable observation of the Higgs Boson
      - Possible observation of dark matter
      - advanced stock trading algorithms allowing 1000 point market jumps and drops within milliseconds (I kid, I kid)

    12. Re:When do we return to real tech? by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      advanced stock trading algorithms allowing 1000 point market jumps and drops within milliseconds (I kid, I kid)

      I haven't seen the 1000 point jumps up yet, just the jumps down.

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    13. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But this is just making things *better* instead of making *new* things.

    14. Re:When do we return to real tech? by 0123456 · · Score: 0

      I am. I can't imagine why you are being sarcastic.

      Because all that has done is made doing the same things a bit faster with a bit smaller device. And a lot more ads.

      There's very little the average person does today on a phone that they couldn't do fifteen years ago on a laptop. Heck, they could even had had Internet everywhere they went if they didn't mind dragging a satellite antenna with them.

      Compared to being able to do things they couldn't do before, a faster Internet on smaller devices is insignificant. Particularly when it's mostly used to shovel ads and funny cat pictures.

    15. Re:When do we return to real tech? by binary+paladin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the sense that a car is nothing but a "better" version of the first wheeled cart. I mean, what the hell have we been doing for the last 7,000 years? Geez.

    16. Re:When do we return to real tech? by binary+paladin · · Score: 1

      I'm amazed every time I use a map on my phone—every damn time. It's amazing.

      I got my first smart phone (the G1) between two trips to San Francisco. It's completely amazing the way it affected my vacation. Maps, Yelp, and other services... wherever and it just keeps getting better. Consider my G1 from a mere 4.5 years ago compared to a Nexus 4. It's really quite insane.

    17. Re:When do we return to real tech? by plover · · Score: 1

      Because what most people still want is that feeling of communicating with other people, of being in the attention span of someone else: "Listen to me, for I am important and have this to say!" Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Slashdot, it's all about the people at the other end of the technology, and not the tech itself.

      The actual tech underneath is at its most amazing when it's completely invisible. So one huge growth industry has been in shrinking existing technology. It may only be evolutionary revisions of previous ideas, but it's still really cool work.

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    18. Re:When do we return to real tech? by SJHillman · · Score: 1

      A lot of it is new technologies that have been engineered from the ground up. The end result might look the same to the simepleminded oberserver, but under the hood many processes are happening in different ways.

    19. Re:When do we return to real tech? by supertrooper · · Score: 1

      To be honest I like what Google has done in the last 15 years: 1. Google search: there were search engines before Google, but how caching and indexing works, and relevance of the results is pretty amazing to me 2. Maps: there were other map products but Google has done a great job to make maps more responsive and easier to use 3. Email: remember when hotmail was giving you about 10 MB of space, and then Google gave you 1 GB This is just to mention a few. I am aware that Google might be the next big threat to everyone's privacy but the technology they came up with is just incredible.

    20. Re:When do we return to real tech? by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      Try uploading files with your mobile device without a dedicated app to do so.

      It doesn't work, try emailing your cv for example to yourself from your phone. Try making a forum post with an attached file. surprisingly this is a problem on android ios and win8 mobile , it was possible on win mobile 6 its possible on a tablet running linux and of course if you tether your phone to your laptop no problem. Don't know about blackberry, but i'm sure someone will fill in the gap.

      Google has become especially annoying want to upload a photo to picasa web albums, not going to work it has to go to google+ first. Do we really have to be social with every photo we take?

      So yes great technology but we are being more strictly controlled than ever before. Not even going to go on about websites which your phone operator has decided you shouldn't have access too.

             

    21. Re:When do we return to real tech? by vux984 · · Score: 2

      Because all that has done is made doing the same things a bit faster with a bit smaller device.

      Real time video communication between two people anywhere in the civilized world with devices they have in their pocket isn't something we could do before.

      I guess I'm trying to see how high you've set the bar before you'll recognize something as progress. I mean, 1000x times faster, 10 times smaller, with an interface (multi-touch screen with no stylus) that was mostly science fiction 15 years ago and is usable enough to have actually displaced physical keyboards / buttons on the devices, and a data rate fast enough for real time video.

      All cars did was let us go faster, farther, with fewer incidents of your engine getting spooked by loud noises? No real progress.

      Stealth fighters are just faster more maneuverable biplanes that are harder to see with radar. No real progress there either.

      I just don't really see where you are coming from.

    22. Re: When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah ... we invented 'talking' without 'talking', and 'sharing' without 'caring'. Social networks allowed the socially impaired tech crowd to communicate via an electronic scheme similar to what normal people could accomplish in person or over the phone. Unfortunately the normal people liked it and now everyone uses this socially impaired substitute as a crutch.

    23. Re:When do we return to real tech? by X.25 · · Score: 1

      Know that tiny device in your pocket that responds to touch and lets you browse the entirety of human knowledge, play games or work from a beach in Tahiti while still letting you call Mom once a week to let her know you're alive? Yeah, that's what technology we invented in the last 15 years. If that doesn't impress you, I'm not sure what will.

      You don't seem to know much about technology.

      None of that has been invented in the last 15 years.

    24. Re:When do we return to real tech? by jon3k · · Score: 1

      It's horribly sad when you think about it. An entire generation of engineers trying to get people to click on ads.

      (That's a poor version of a quote I heard once that'd I'd love to attribute to the source, who I can't find at the moment)

    25. Re:When do we return to real tech? by jon3k · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately a tremendous amount of talent has also been lost to "social media" services and figuring out how to get people to look at "better" ads. Certainly we haven't completely stagnated but a huge amount of really bright people were wasted on this shit.

    26. Re:When do we return to real tech? by RalphTheWonderLlama · · Score: 1

      Just one point. I use Google Picasa web albums without having Google+. I know they are kind of becoming integrated now since I've seen one web album that is on Google+ but mine aren't.

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    27. Re:When do we return to real tech? by loufoque · · Score: 1

      I'd rather have an old-style keyboard than a new-style touchscreen.

    28. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      Sorry man, I just uploaded a firmware file to my router from my browser in Android. Perhaps you're thinking of iOS, I know it's limited in what types of files can be uploaded (I think older version didn't support it at all). Yep, my old Win Mobile 6 phone was pretty open ... but had a lot of bad points about it too stability and interface-wise. Yes, some platforms are far more crippled than they used to be, and people need to fight against that trend, as freedom is hard to regain.

      Also, your carrier really can't block websites ... just switch DNS servers. I wasn't aware any were attempting it, except perhaps TPB in the UK. Who the hell is your carrier?

    29. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      I should also add that you can mail any file without problem in Android. I once saw twi iPhone users holding their phone closes to each other while one played an MP3 and the other recorded it. They couldn't get the file to each other any other way. It was pretty damn funny.

    30. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's still happening, but you can't discuss it on Slashdot. Slashdot's a Microsoft/Apple/Facebook marketing site now.

      Find yourself a real tech forum if you want innovations.

    31. Re:When do we return to real tech? by SJHillman · · Score: 2

      Ok, show me a tiny, low power multi-core processor like many smartphones have that was around in the late 90's. Show me a touchscreen that had anywhere near the sensitivity of even cheap smartphones today. Or a GPS receiver that could be shoehorned into a tiny phone without sacrificing any of the other gadgets in it. Sure, the precursors of many of today's smartphone components existed but almost nothing in a 2012 or 2013 smartphone. It's like saying cars existed in ancient Egypt because they had horses and carts.

    32. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I think it's you who don't seem to know about technology. Could someone (or a small number if people) do some limited version of those things - sure. Could millions? Nope.

      Some technology inventions are about new functionality, but most are about improving it, or scaling it up, or making it cheaper, or more accessible. Those are generally the ones that make a difference in people lives. In other words having a flying car is cute and newsworthy, being able to mass produce them at an acceptable cost makes them useful and changes the world.

    33. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear Hermit. I saw in Best Buy that they are selling qwerty keyboards with real buttons.

    34. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Know that tiny device in your pocket that responds to touch and lets you browse the entirety of human knowledge, play games or work from a beach in Tahiti while still letting you call Mom once a week to let her know you're alive? Yeah, that's what technology we invented in the last 15 years. If that doesn't impress you, I'm not sure what will.

      You don't seem to know much about technology.

      None of that has been invented in the last 15 years.

      You don't seem to know much either. It takes time and effort to make a technology viable and affordable to millions of people. HDTVs as proof of concept were introduced in the early 1990s. The Saturn EV1 was introduced in the 90s. EV1 died, Saturn died as well. But the number of battery operated cars has increased to something sizeable today. It took a good decade or so after that for them to be affordable to the middle class. There are things invented now that will only see the light of day several years from today. An invention is no good if it is unaffordable to most people. But it takes time and effort to streamline the industrial processes and achieve the economies of scale.

    35. Re:When do we return to real tech? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      We've been inventing and progressing plenty. What I'd like is for tech companies to return to tech. And by that I mean companies returning to the idea of creating great products designed with me in mind, enticing me to buy those products because they meet my needs, and profiting from being the best at that. When I buy a Blu-ray player or an e-book reader, I expect devices designed to play my Blu-rays and let me read e-books, not devices that are designed to keep me from watching media from another region, or force me to watch Disney ads and previews, or make me buy Amazon e-books and lock me out of other stores, or do other stuff that is clearly not in my best interest. When I buy a device or a service, I like the company to profit from that sale, not from vendor lock in or from selling my personal data.

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    36. Re:When do we return to real tech? by swillden · · Score: 1

      I can't imagine why you are being sarcastic.

      Because he's a troll, and you're biting.

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    37. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No opportunities. you're assuming (correct me if I'm wrong) that the same human resources that went into developing products like facebook could actually develop useful technologies or inventions. Come on can you really imagine someone like Zuk inventing the cure for cancer or something. SImilarly the 2 guys who developed SnapChat or the numerous other social app developers who write shitty little social sharing services, they're not inventors just developers. But having said that there is exciting work being done in biotech etc... but unfortunately they're not done by teenage millionaires, they're done by people with deep experience and high intelligence who usually don't like to be in the limelight and the 'press' don't find very sexy.

    38. Re:When do we return to real tech? by sydneyfong · · Score: 1

      So, your laptop fifteen years ago is just like the Mainframes invented 40+ years ago, but smaller, faster and easier to use.

      I am so impressed by the tech in your laptop. Obviously it is the greatest invention ever since slice bread.

      By the way, the best movie EVER is Jurassic Park and the music the kids listen to these days SUCK. </sarcasm>

      Where's your lawn?

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    39. Re:When do we return to real tech? by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      Which browser did you use? I'll give you an example gardenersworld.com has a forum (i've got a tablet running ICS and rooted) now if you go to post a message on android first problem is the text editor will just let you enter text the toolbar is missing (it uses tinymce) so then you get it to send you the desktop site. Ok toolbar is there now. click on the add picture icon pops up a requester select upload a file from your computer and you get a selection of apps to use gallery file manager and a few others but whichever you choose you do not get to upload the file. it usually says something like file not found. With gmail you don't get to open or add attachments.There is an app for that gmail downloader.

      In theory opera mini is supposed to be able to upload files i haven't managed it yet i've tried opera firefox google chrome dolphin... This is an android problem, but ios has it and so does the current windows mobile. It's a "feature". Love to see you prove me wrong because it is seriously annoying.
      http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2519
      have a look here to see a long thread about this issue.

      The ISP which is blocking sites that is 3 ireland and I don't think it was a problem till earlier this year. Seems anything remotely pornographic is blocked, also any site that has any mention of drugs is another. I found searching for any information on grow lights seemed to be blocked. Might surprise some people that grow lights don't have to be used for growing dope! I like gardening I'm growing from seed and this spring has been especially bad. I've rung them, three, about this and it is more than likely down to "Age verification" and I will need to go into a three store to verify my age.

      I use pay as you go. Mainly because it gives them less opportunity to screw you. They give me free data if I top up 20 euro a month. I used to have a 3g modem with them on contract. One christmas i blew through my data allowance 2 days early and i think it was the day before my next month was due to start my browser directed me to a page that told me i'd used all my data allowance and i'd used about 80 quids worth of data outside of my plan.

      Fell out over that, seemed a bit wrong that they could break into my browser to tell me that after i'd spent 80 quid extra and not when it had run out. Claimed to have sent a text to my modem but since i was running linux i didn't have access to that. Also turns out I was on month to month at that time, having completed my 12 months. So was forced to pay for one more month before I could exit their contracted services.

      So in some ways they are bad, others pretty good. I have a proxy server hidden on one of my websites. Which gets me round the filter for static content they don't like me viewing, it can't do video thou. But youtube isn't the smoothest experience at the best of times either even without a proxy.

      The Google+ thing is annoying but Google doesnt seem to want to let me upload direct to picasa web albums from android I can upload with g+ and then move the pictures to a private picasa album. The gallery app doesn't want me to view files on my tablet just the ones that are in the "cloud". I like android but this kind of fight shouldn't be happening. If I want to take random pictures of my plants and record how well they are growing (they move fairly slow apart from germination) Android should be ideal time location all stored and if I want to share a picture. E.g my slightly frost bit fuchsias i can link to that picture, but i don't really want to share the crappy pictures i took as well. Secret to being a good photographer only show your good photo's .

      might be right about the DNS servers, i used to mess about moving sim cards between my phone and my 3g dongle and with the dongle in my router i just use 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4 for dns. I don't think there was any blockage. These days i just use my phones tether button and connect wirelessly to that. (

    40. Re:When do we return to real tech? by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      Most (all?) of the carriers in the UK do age-related blocking of websites. e.g. any page that is to do with alcohol/drugs/pronography even if it's on wikipedia. Usually it's just a quick phone call to them to get them to remove the block .

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    41. Re:When do we return to real tech? by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      Invented, no. Improved, yes.

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    42. Re:When do we return to real tech? by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

      As I said above, they are improvements. Every thing you say is an improvement- low power, multi-core, touchscreen sensitivity, tiny GPS receiver. Notice all those adjectives? Then you go and say that everything you just listed already existed. You said "invented." Stop fumbling about and just admit you used the wrong word.

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    43. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      Using Chrome, but I'm fairly sure you could upload files in the pre-Chrome Android browser, at least for the last couple of versions. Most of that thread seems to be for 2.2 and before, and I don't remember whether it was possible or not. I'd assumed it was, but also frequently used Opera and CyanogenMod at that point as well. With Chrome (now anyway) you generally just click a file select button on a site, and the intent system gives you the choice of a file manager (ES File Manager, etc), Gallery, and a few others, as you would expect. Attaching files to emails works the same, and I don't remember running into problems with it before either (with the same caveats).

    44. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, if we happen to invent teleportation, it won't mean a hill of beans to you because we can already walk there. "Getting there" is something we've done forever, right?

    45. Re:When do we return to real tech? by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      could understand if it these were new sims but both date to 2009 and one used to be on contract for a usb modem (till they screwed me and i ended the contract).

      Just been having more fun today as i was adviced to talk to one of their stores who emailed a copy of my driving license to their area manager. been talking to customer services who asked me to email customer.services.ie@threemail.com which bounced and then i got told it is @3mail.com

      I don't get why they have a problem when they didnt for several years previous.
         

    46. Re:When do we return to real tech? by blackest_k · · Score: 1

      Thanks i will try a few more file managers see if they are more successful.

    47. Re:When do we return to real tech? by cffrost · · Score: 1

      I once saw twi iPhone users holding their phone closes to each other while one played an MP3 and the other recorded it.

      Fanboy mating ritual.

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    48. Re:When do we return to real tech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  3. Planning on replacing my home phone with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    a Home phone.

    Marketing genius. E.T. phone home.

    Hey homes did you get a new Home phone? Yeah but I left it at home.

    1. Re:Planning on replacing my home phone with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yo dawg!

      I heard you like your home. So we put home on your home phone so you use home at home.

  4. Oh nice, a new mobile app by cultiv8 · · Score: 1

    *goes back to work*

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    1. Re:Oh nice, a new mobile app by loufoque · · Score: 1

      You mean home.

  5. User = Product by Reasonable+Facsimile · · Score: 1

    It's like razors and blades, and the users are the blades...

    1. Re:User = Product by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dull and covered in hair and dead skin?

  6. TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article is just one big press release.

    From the “Home” screen, users can swipe left and right to access the user’s News Feed (now renamed “Cover Feed”). Users can comment and Like images, which are blown up to the size of the screen. Videos won’t be shown, group posts won’t show up, and there won’t be any ads—at least at first. Swiping the screen down brings up the app drawer (Android apps, said a Facebook product manager who asked not to be named) instead of apps designed to run atop the Facebook platform.

    WHy is Facebook doing this? Why do they do anything?

    What is their profit center?

    Your data. This is just a ploy to gather data about users - and it wouldn't surprise me if this app is using the GPS/Maps part of Android to get your movements.

    FB's makes their money spying on people and sharing data with marketers,

    Keep that in mind. They are a marketer's wet dream.

    1. Re:TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article is just one big press release.

      From the “Home” screen, users can swipe left and right to access the user’s News Feed (now renamed “Cover Feed”). Users can comment and Like images, which are blown up to the size of the screen. Videos won’t be shown, group posts won’t show up, and there won’t be any ads—at least at first. Swiping the screen down brings up the app drawer (Android apps, said a Facebook product manager who asked not to be named) instead of apps designed to run atop the Facebook platform.

      WHy is Facebook doing this? Why do they do anything?

      What is their profit center?

      Your data. This is just a ploy to gather data about users - and it wouldn't surprise me if this app is using the GPS/Maps part of Android to get your movements.

      FB's makes their money spying on people and sharing data with marketers,

      Keep that in mind. They are a marketer's wet dream.

      You mean they are exactly like Google?

    2. Re:TFA by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

      WHy is Facebook doing this? Why do they do anything?

      Money

      What is their profit center?

      Advertising and selling any personal details which you agree to in clicking through those annoying EULAS.

      Android to get your movements.

      Yes, but you need to ask yourself how that could possibly be useful to them. Answer: more advertising. Eg: if the App knows your a block from Walmart and they can stream you an instantaneous Ad for Walmart special on Cheezypoofs (they know from your purchase history on Facebook Credit Card/Gift Card that you buy cheezy poofs -- again, you clicked the EULA) Walmart will put more money into that Advertising medium because it's targeted and specialized to each individual.

      The creepy part about all of it? You'll probably never switch to another type of Cheezypoof. As long as there is a retailer within range of your GPS, you will always get served Ads for Cheezypoof brand Poofs. This drives a racket of monetized competition of advertising which, in the end, offers little choice for the consumer. Alternative products cannot gain enough of a foothold to compete with the Mega brands.

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    3. Re:TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean they are exactly like Google?

      Yup. Facebook created a mobile phone ecosystem that companies like Facebook could use to push their brands.

    4. Re:TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To show their investors that they care about mobile? They might think the phone is a bad idea but they could just be placating investors for the moment.

    5. Re:TFA by alen · · Score: 1

      just like your hero google?

    6. Re:TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook created an ecosystem that companies like Facebook could use to push their brands.

      Just like Google.

    7. Re:TFA by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      no, *I* won't... but then I'm not the problem, its the millions of "ordinary" people who will, unfortunately I end up with only 1 choice of cheezypoofs as that's all they'll end up stocking thanks to my fellow idiot humans :(

        I'll truly give up when facebook starts to sponsor education (or TV, which is much the same difference for many people).

    8. Re:TFA by rtfa-troll · · Score: 1

      Facebook created an ecosystem that companies like Facebook could use to push their brands.

      Just like Google.

      Which is the whole point. The mobile operators want a second source of something like Android so that they can push back against Apple safely.

      The mobile operators realised that Skype is Microsoft's big plan to shaft them. They will allow it in on mobiles Microsoft agrees they control whilst Microsoft will get control via people's desktops in any case. Once that happens the mobile operators will be fucked since Microsoft will control their revenue.

      Some of the operators (like AT&T) are so stupid they don't realise or corrupt they don't care but most of them saw what happened to the compiler industry or the word processor industry or Netscape or Sendo or anyone else who partnered with Microsoft. They want anyone, just anyone they can use as a second Apple alternative. As long as it isn't Microsoft.

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    9. Re:TFA by Zaelath · · Score: 2

      No, Google are like the greasy loser that fucks your sister.

      Facebook are like the greasy loser that sells your sister for crack.

    10. Re:TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just like your hero google?

      Well, Google doesn't sell/share your data.

    11. Re:TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Google are like the greasy loser that fucks your sister.

      Facebook are like the greasy loser that sells your sister for crack.

      I think we live in different worlds

    12. Re:TFA by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 1

      I would just like to add to your analysis that by controlling your phone, they can use it to figure out even those details that you did not properly enter in your Facebook profile. If your phone is not moving from 8pm to 8am at a certain address, they can calculate that your home address is now the place you were, and "helpfully" update your info. Or tell the world that you are on a business trip and not at home. Or even figure out by where your phone is during the day where you work, and reveal to the world that you work for SleazeBucket without you approving it. And of course they could just keep these little insights hidden even from you, and just sell that info to advertisers, privacy be damned.

      Note that they already are on record by stating that they cannot do this on the iOS devices because Apple will not let them have the needed level of access.

  7. Who in their right mind is going to buy this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Aside from the FB employees, who really wants Facebook to track his own phone calls 24x7x365..because have no doubt, they will be tracking everything through this shit

    1. Re:Who in their right mind is going to buy this by loufoque · · Score: 1

      The FBI employees.

  8. E.T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    FB phone home!

  9. There better be choices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I sure hope the phones that are oriented around this app are clearly marked as such. I don't want my smartphone experience to be centered around Facebook, especially when I don't even have an account.

    I find this really disturbing:

    Home essentially is a custom start screen for your Android phone, replacing the home screen with one centered on Facebook. While users can access other Android apps on the phone, the focus is on those apps that run on the Facebook platform.

    1. Re:There better be choices by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, at least 'til phone providers catch on that it's not really a feature, you may rest assured that this will be heavily advertised. At least I hope so.

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  10. Sub-process by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

    ...Home essentially is a custom start screen for your Android phone, replacing the home screen with one centered on Facebook....

    So everything you run on the Facebook phone-Home device is a sub-process of Facebook's snooping program. Zucky must be beside himself with all the extra data that will be collected on the Facebook sheeple.

  11. I use FB less and less... by IANAAC · · Score: 2

    My FB usage has gone down a lot over the last year. I just can't see it going back up. I suppose the concept of "Home" is nice (even though it's just to harvest your data), but, well... I'd never use it.

  12. Is that all? by dxter486 · · Score: 1

    Well, not exactly what the rumors were. It's not a phone, not an OS but just an app.

    1. Re:Is that all? by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Why would they need to do a new OS, when they can just take over Google's one? It could be quite amusing if future Android phones end up sending more people to Facebook services than Google services.

      And there will be a phones with this built in. They're working with HTC on the first one. So you either buy a phone with it on, or download it if you already have an Android phone.

  13. Hopefully the CyanogenMod team will get on board!! by daboochmeister · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't that just be cool!! To root your phone just so you can sell your soul to Zuckerberg!! Because, you know, there's just nothing about this whole idea that in any way doesn't pass the sniff test.

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  14. I know we'll all hate it on Slashdot... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    But I bet my sister installs this onto her phone the first hour it's available to her.

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    1. Re:I know we'll all hate it on Slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  15. Power Drain by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    I uninstalled the Facebook app when I found its background service responsible for 10% of my battery life. I only ever want to use it to upload a picture or two (upload via https://m.facebook.com/ on Android browsers has been broken for a while).

    I'm wondering if they've improved this at all with this Home work. In the mantime, does anybody here know of a way to specifically or generally turn off such a background process? If I kill it, it comes right back.

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    1. Re:Power Drain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I uninstalled the Facebook app when I found its background service responsible for 10% of my battery life.

      I uninstalled the Facebook app before I decided to buy a smartphone.

    2. Re:Power Drain by semi-extrinsic · · Score: 1

      I've also had problems with photo upload via the browser. My suspicion is that they did this on purpose, to push people back onto the app.

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    3. Re:Power Drain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're on Android 4, disable it. Not sure on Android 2... I was stuck with it there too, but it never ran in the background autonomously either.

    4. Re:Power Drain by karnal · · Score: 1

      A long time ago it was broken on my WM6.5 phone; there's somewhere on Facebook's site that you can get an email address that's linked to your account. You can then just email pictures to that address and it'll post up on FB. Easy peasy.

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    5. Re:Power Drain by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      ah, I'd forgotten about that - works great, thanks!

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    6. Re:Power Drain by TheSeatOfMyPants · · Score: 1

      Titanium Backup might be able to freeze it; I haven't given Titanium a try yet, but I've seen it recommended for various CPU-eating apps/services quite a few times.

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  16. So basically a custom launcher by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Android lets you replace the launcher and other component parts and it looks like that is all this Facebook app is doing. Given how intrusive and battery sapping their app is, I think I'll pass.

    1. Re:So basically a custom launcher by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      I just wish the phone manufacturers would follow suit. Think about how much better a Galaxy SIII would be if all the Samsung software were just apps that could be unloaded.

  17. Meh by onyxruby · · Score: 1

    It's a Facebook app for those who treat Facebook more like crackbook. Who care's? There are thousands of different android phones out there, this one just happens to have one particular app ingrained as a theme. This phone isn't going to hurt anyone and it will benefit those who live their lives through that particular corporations product.

    Might I suggest the much more usable and robust CAT themed smartphone instead? At least that phone should survive any drunken friends or small children that happen to get their hands on it.

  18. Geez, two snitches at once... by nweaver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rather than having a phone that's designed to spill everything I do to Google, I get a phone designed to spill everything I do to both Google AND Facebook. Geez, loverly.

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  19. if you want this phone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I probably already hate you

  20. Facebook Metro UI by kimble3 · · Score: 1

    I was reading about this new Facebook home app and the thought that jumped out at me is that this is Facebook's version of the Windows 8 Metro UI. Is it Android? Or is is some new Facebook OS? As long as you stay in Facebook Home everything is wonderful. But don't worry, you can always escape back to the normal Android home screen and do everything you used to do. What could go wrong with that?

  21. Can't block a thing on it by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 0

    Being "illegal" to root ones device you send everything to third parties
    you have no business knowing who, and nothing you can do about it.

    You can opt out but that's at the desecration of the third party, only those
    living in California USA can write and request where there private info has gone.

    ADaway or any other ad blocking application can't be found as it's against Google Play TOS.
    http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/13/breaking-google-has-begun-purging-ad-blocking-apps-from-the-play-store/

    Android 4.2.X and above a HOSTS file doesn't work anymore, it was disabled to patch a security hole.
    - I lost the link for this, If you google ADaway you will run across it as the "hole" is what Adaway used, (ability to use 127.0.0.1 once a WiFi session).

    But the sheep know nothing of this, and have or will never read a Privacy Policy.
    From the replies to this article it's good to see the "what are they thinking" of attitude

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    1. Re:Can't block a thing on it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apk plz go

  22. more personal info than ever for fb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "On one level, Home is the next mobile version of Facebook. On the other, it allows us to now have direct and full access to your hardware and *everything* contained on it (contacts, SMS's, bookmarks, browser history, etc etc), not to mention every finger swipe & tap."

    FTFY. eat shit, fuckerberg

  23. Points out the lack of GFX support. by niftymitch · · Score: 1
    I think the short list of devices supported points out the lack of accelerated GFX support on many Android devices.

    Hardware vendors are missing the boat by forgetting that good hardware can make work for 50X as many software folk as hardware folk. Closed hardware specifications do not help....

    Some early versions of Android have no support for multiple cores yet MP hardware was available. Many Samsung phones lack full support of the graphics hardware. Without acceleration they were quick enough so ship it. Had they updated the OS and drivers I would have stayed with Samsung but their lame hobbling of worthy hardware (Samsung + AT&T) to push new hardware invited me to switch to a grey market phone not from Samsung..

    Most interesting is with a billion FB users this software will be seen by such a small fraction of customer eyeballs that it is not worth discussing on its own merits. While they have to start someplace it remains to be seen if the software is a pig that flies or just a pig that eats battery and bandwidth.

    Phone hardware is ill documented so even rooting a phone gives little opportunity to improve the foundations. It only helps to remove cruft.... The likes of FB and Google need to get after their hardware partners to step it up.

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  24. Re:Ahhh yes life is good ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, Google has confirmed that this will be the default launcher for Key Lime Pie.

  25. New Home Screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FB concerns aside I think it is very good that we are starting to see Home Screens as more than just a list of apps. List of apps seems very inefficient.

    1. Re:New Home Screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er...isn't that why we have widgets?

  26. *claps* Bravo, Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is impressive. Very, very impressive.

    Not the software - that sounds mediocre at best.

    But the business plan is genius. Without having to create their own OS, they can Borg-ify the majority of existing Android phones out there. By creating their own launcher, they can bury Google features completely, if they so chose to - redirecting most ad-related Android traffic away from Google, and over to Facebook. At the same time, the small group of users who use Google+, who have likely been using the Android app as well, will (I'm guessing) find it much, much easier to post directly to Facebook.

    I can't stand Facebook - and the above sounds horrifying. But I'd put money on this being their strategy.

    1. Re:*claps* Bravo, Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Until Google block it.

    2. Re:*claps* Bravo, Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do not have exclusive borg-ification rights. Expect other players to have similar applications and in a couple of years we will have a laucher to launch the launcers that launch launchers.

  27. The young genius at it again by paiute · · Score: 1

    I hope you all caught the latest hagiographic articles going around the more gullible news sites - some reporter used the Wayback to look at Zs website circa 1999 and discovered that it included links to people, therefore this was the precursor to Facebook.
    http://www.techspot.com/news/52148-zuckerbergs-first-website-contained-an-early-facebook-prototype.html

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  28. How Long Until Preinstalled? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    How long until Verizon Wireless decides to pre-install this on all their phones and lock it in. They already force me to keep a bunch of apps on my phone (including Facebook's app but also including ones like NFL Mobile) which I have no interest in using. I can't remove these apps without unlocking my phone which is "illegal" now. It's not like I'd leave them if they let me remove these apps. After all, they have me locked into a contract and are, quite frankly, the best carrier in my area. I might even be able to see keeping on the apps directly related to their Verizon Wireless services. I just want to delete these third party apps that I never use.

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    1. Re:How Long Until Preinstalled? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long until Verizon Wireless decides to pre-install this on all their phones and lock it in. They already force me to keep a bunch of apps on my phone (including Facebook's app but also including ones like NFL Mobile) which I have no interest in using. I can't remove these apps without unlocking my phone which is "illegal" now. It's not like I'd leave them if they let me remove these apps. After all, they have me locked into a contract and are, quite frankly, the best carrier in my area. I might even be able to see keeping on the apps directly related to their Verizon Wireless services. I just want to delete these third party apps that I never use.

      what? unlocking != rooting!!!

    2. Re:How Long Until Preinstalled? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long until Verizon Wireless decides to pre-install this on all their phones and lock it in. They already force me to keep a bunch of apps on my phone (including Facebook's app but also including ones like NFL Mobile) which I have no interest in using. I can't remove these apps without unlocking my phone which is "illegal" now. It's not like I'd leave them if they let me remove these apps. After all, they have me locked into a contract and are, quite frankly, the best carrier in my area. I might even be able to see keeping on the apps directly related to their Verizon Wireless services. I just want to delete these third party apps that I never use.

      what?? Unlocking != Rooting ... big difference!!!

    3. Re:How Long Until Preinstalled? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like I'd leave them if they let me remove these apps. After all, they have me locked into a contract and are, quite frankly, the best carrier in my area.

      Your definition of "best carrier" is different from mine. Best speed or coverage, maybe. But the best carrier doesn't lock you into apps or contracts.

    4. Re:How Long Until Preinstalled? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      It seems to me, without being a dick about it, that if it bothered you enough you'd switch regardless of which you think is 'best'. I certainly wouldn't stick with a carrier who doesn't let me uninstall apps.

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    5. Re:How Long Until Preinstalled? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Honestly, it bothers me, but not enough to switch. Like I said, Verizon Wireless has the best coverage where I live. We also have no land line and don't want to wind up in a dead zone when we need to call 911. (We actually did have to call 911 a week after we ditched our land line. The cell phone 911 call worked perfectly.)

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    6. Re:How Long Until Preinstalled? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Fair enough. I can see why people root their phones then. ;)

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  29. Now with twice the spying! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't you happy your privacy is penetrated only by goOgle? Now you can get double penetration from failbook as well! Oh the joy!

    Sign off your soul today! Very special offer!

  30. For my money... by The_Revelation · · Score: 1

    .... it had better at least update my peeps any time I'm watching pr0n on the tubes. I require constant automatic updates on my status, so people can track my highly intriguing life-style. [scratches balls]

  31. A first for Android? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Facebook Home is successful at all, this might mark the first time when a popular app is first available for Android, but not for iOS.

  32. Re:boooooring by ackthpt · · Score: 1

    YAWN

    Perzactly. I couldn't be less interested if I were dead.

    Well, that's not quite true.

    When I get an Android tablet or phone I will be highly focused on seeing Facebook is not a component anywhere on it.

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  33. yyeeeaahhhhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    um....no.

  34. I fail to see the appeal by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    A home phone that phones home? Somehow I have this hunch that I can do without. And not just 'cause I don't have a FB account.

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  35. Shameless rip-off of Windows Phone by casab1anca · · Score: 1

    Mark Zuckerberg must have inherited Steve Jobs' reality distortion field, since nobody seems to have brought up the fact that Facebook Home is essentially a blatant rip-off of Windows Phone. Put people before apps? Facebook photos on the lock screen? Status updates on the home screen? Integrated Facebook chat? Windows Phone has been doing these for years now.

  36. Incremental advances by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    All those advances you spoke of are incremental and following a logical progression. It's not that revolutionary. I'm talking about a Mr. Fusion reactor to power every home revolutionary.

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    1. Re:Incremental advances by sydneyfong · · Score: 1

      How is a fusion reactor to power every home so much more revolutionary than a smart phone to sit in every pocket?

      30 years ago, something with that computational power would be at least the size of a power plant.

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    2. Re:Incremental advances by Jaruzel · · Score: 1

      If the overall effort put into micro-sizing people entertainment devices was put into 'proper' research fields then maybe we'd be much closer to:

      -Sustainable energy generation that doesn't fuck the the planet.
      -Closer to cures for Cancer and HIV
      -World Peace
      -Proper Space Exploration
      -A life where you don't have to work 50 hours a week just to feed your family.

      The HTC/Samsung/Apple flagship phones are great and all, but they are hardly IMPORTANT when you step back and look at the continuing [lack of] development of the human race.

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    3. Re:Incremental advances by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The people that work on mobile operating systems can't just work on curing HIV (which has appeared to have happened in some cases). A lot of the problem with proper space exploration and sustainable energy generation is that they're not fossil fuel based. A politics problem (same with the 50 hour work-week, and fossil fuels can also be argued to be the root cause of the entire middle east conflict right now).

      Not even going into that microsizing technology isn't proper research. Tiny hearing aids and pacemakers aren't proper enough?

    4. Re:Incremental advances by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Its still a computer. The only changes are newer software and system on chip devices. Break these down and its still the basic building blocks of the original IBM XT.

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  37. More crapware by Rastl · · Score: 1

    I spend far too much time uninstalling/deleting/nuking from orbit all the crapware that comes pre-installed on a new computer. Why on FSM's green-ish earth would I BUY a device that uses crapware as the main selling point?

    They can't even 'upgrade' their Android app without breaking functionality. That's just the kind of stability I want on my cell phone. ~sarcasm~.

  38. Impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds impressive.
    Innovation & technology - way to go FB.

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