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Inside Mantis: a 2-Ton Hexapod Robot With a Linux Brain

DeviceGuru writes "After four years of development, Micromagic Systems has finally completed the Mantis Hexapod Walking Machine (YouTube video), claimed to be the world's largest all-terrain operational hexapod robot. The device stands nearly three meters tall, weighs just under two tons, and is controlled by a PC/104 module stack running embedded Linux."

84 comments

  1. Dubstep Warning by locater16 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Warning, obnoxious dubstep sountrack for video. You have been warned.

    1. Re:Dubstep Warning by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 1

      The Ministry of Silly Walks has made a whole sound track to accompany that dubstep? Lovely!
      I think a soundtrack of the dubwalk and dubrun are in order as well. Now lets see that hexapod doing some dubsteps!

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    2. Re:Dubstep Warning by kanuac · · Score: 0

      Opportunity lost. Moreso when there's Amon Tobin - Four ton mantis - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uie5vy01g4c

    3. Re:Dubstep Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree

      Probably, with a punchier machine, this would have been way more appropriate as a soundtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlYBPuHeZxw (Amon Tobin - 4 ton mantis)

    4. Re:Dubstep Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that the name said "Ministry of Silly Walks", not "Ministry of Noisy Walks"...?

    5. Re:Dubstep Warning by fritsd · · Score: 1

      How disappointing that they didn't use a Tarantella dance as soundtrack.. Missed opportunity..

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    6. Re:Dubstep Warning by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      Well that's the problem, isn't it? If he went with Amon Tobin, he'd feel insecure about having only built a two-ton model.

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    7. Re:Dubstep Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I had seen your post first. That is some seriously annoying excuse for music.

  2. Horrible video by homb · · Score: 5, Informative

    The video couldn't have been worse, considering how interesting the subject is.
    The videographer should be shot on general principle.

    1. Re:Horrible video by hairyfish · · Score: 2

      Don't you know that quick cuts and a shaky camera angles means that there's hardcore action going on and you should be impressed. See the Fast and Furious franchise for more detail.

    2. Re:Horrible video by lxs · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think it is intentional. To hide the fact that it's a slow plodding disappointment.

      So far the video has shown:
      -Walking at a snails pace.
      -Feebly kicking over an oil drum.
      -A huge cloud of smoke at the end which is either a pyrotechnic effect to hide the machine or a side effect of that diesel engine blowing up.

      But hey it runs Linux, or so they say.

    3. Re:Horrible video by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      I want to see it operating on sand dunes.

    4. Re:Horrible video by ByteSlicer · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's a less "flashy" one, a few months older:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=3sCuse5TZGA

    5. Re:Horrible video by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      It doesn't run Linux, that was a miscommunication. It's somewhat successfully trying to run away from Linus.

    6. Re:Horrible video by Beorytis · · Score: 1

      The videographer should be shot on general principle.

      A full 20% of the video consists of closing credits!

    7. Re:Horrible video by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      Here's an eight legged version built by rednecks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz9kZh8PNVM

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  3. Robot? by theNetImp · · Score: 3, Informative

    So er it has a driver... That makes it not a robot!

    1. Re:Robot? by homb · · Score: 1

      It can be controlled remotely via wifi. The in-seat driver is optional.

    2. Re:Robot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What difference does it make if the driver is remote or not?

    3. Re:Robot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it doesnt

    4. Re:Robot? by Osgeld · · Score: 0

      I can start my car and access my house via wifi, and control many aspects of it with a phone, is that a robot, acc to your theory its the fucking terminator

    5. Re:Robot? by homb · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying it's fully autonomous. But it seems it can do some stuff autonomously. Then again, all I see is some hexapod walking around and kicking a barrel.

    6. Re:Robot? by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 2

      Not really so much a robot but an exoskeleton for your inner insect.

    7. Re:Robot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What would you class as a robot?? Would you say Asimo is a robot, or big dog? because both of those still have drivers behind the scenes. Only when big dog is in follow the leader mode does it not need the driver! In fact, a washing machine is probably closer to a true robot than all of these, but who wants to sit in a washing machine and drive it around!! So much negativity!

    8. Re:Robot? by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      You don't get it, the driver is the robot that runs on penguins.

    9. Re:Robot? by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Its not autonomous but its a robot. There's a difference.

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    10. Re:Robot? by v1 · · Score: 2

      What would you class as a robot??

      The term "robot" has been around for quite awhile, and due to its broad use, it doesn't have a very clear definition.

      About all the agreement you're going to get on it is that a robot is a mechanical device capable of performing automated actions. It generally doesn't have to emulate physical (walking) or cognitive (AI) biological features. My dish washer is technically a robot. It's not very glamorous, but there you have it.

      Robots exist in all degrees of "autonomy". It can be a difficult line to draw. If you start with a remote controlled plane, it meets the most basic automation definition of "robot" as soon as it can auto pilot.

      I'd tend to call a machine a more "modern" robot when it is able to do more than directly react to stimulus. (which is all that an airplane autopilot does) A "decision maker by necessity". The Mars Curiosity robot for example. It's impractical to operate it purely by remote control. It has to evaluate its circumstances, assess priorities and capabilities, select a high level goal, ("analyze that rock over there") and then execute a series of actions (customized at that time based on current circumstances) to accomplish the goal.

      But I suppose I'm thinking more of "automaton" than of robot?

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    11. Re:Robot? by bughunter · · Score: 2

      Robot is one of those terms like "artificial intelligence" that keeps getting diluted by overreaching marketing use. The cumulative effect is to drag down the term rather than inflate the product.

      "Robot" has devolved from meaning a conscious, completely autonomous, usually humanoid, self-contained machine capable of making its own decisions (thus the need for Three Laws of Robotics) to meaning any servomechanism under human control aided by a PID Loop or Kalman Filter to relieve the operator from the most routine tasks.

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  4. Brute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big body, small brain. I'm not sure that's how we should build machines.

  5. 6 legs bad, 8 legs good! by tumutbound · · Score: 1

    I want my octopod! And I want it to climb walls.

  6. Underwhelming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was really excited to open the video, and... I'm not sure they could have made a 2 ton hexapod vehicle any more boring to watch. Good job?

  7. OMFG by Osgeld · · Score: 0

    it went almost 10 feet in 2 min and 100 jump cuts

    it put its foot on a pile of stuff then jump cut to it walking on smooth tarmac

    it kicked a barrel while standing completely still

    meanwhile a stupid mid 80's army hummer can travel at highway speeds. can scale a 3 foot wall, and who gives a shit about a barrel, an empty cylinder is not a problem when you have wheels that dont span 15 feet wide

    1. Re:OMFG by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      Yes, but your mid 80's army hummer doesn't run Linux, and has unformfortable teeth...

    2. Re:OMFG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excuses - foreigner here.

      WTF does "unformfortable" mean!?

    3. Re:OMFG by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Running Linux as the OS is no big deal. It is just an OS they could use Windows or DOS if they wanted to. It is the custom software written is more important then the OS. Granted Unix based OSs makes it easier to communicate with hardware, but so what. It isn't like the mid 90s where Linux was new. Linux is widely used. I just never made it in the desktop.

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    4. Re:OMFG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      it went almost 10 feet in 2 min and 100 jump cuts

      it put its foot on a pile of stuff then jump cut to it walking on smooth tarmac

      it kicked a barrel while standing completely still

      meanwhile a stupid mid 80's army hummer can travel at highway speeds. can scale a 3 foot wall, and who gives a shit about a barrel, an empty cylinder is not a problem when you have wheels that dont span 15 feet wide

      Really! Why call it "all terrain" when its really "paved flat surface" . When I read all terrain I was expecting it at least being designed to be able to lift its feet more than 2 feet and for it to be able to place them at an arbitrary height. I think it was twenty years since I saw a thing just like this one... and it required no "software stack" to walk.

    5. Re:OMFG by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      WTF does "unformfortable" mean!?

      It means it cannot be formforted.

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    6. Re:OMFG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok...
      Google gives 22 results for "formforted" - not a single one of them seems to make any sense whatsoever.

    7. Re:OMFG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just never made it in the desktop.

      you poor thing, you should really try harder.
      I think you'd like it.

  8. The important question is... by Alex+Vulpes · · Score: 1

    But does it run Linux?

    Oh wait, yes it does. Never mind then.

    1. Re:The important question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      class 1 moron

    2. Re:The important question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine a beowulf of these!

    3. Re:The important question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not clever.

      You're not funny.

      You're not creative.

      You're not cool.

    4. Re:The important question is... by JustOK · · Score: 2

      no, it walks linux

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  9. I, for one, welcome our new hexapod overlords! by Gnulix · · Score: 2

    Bow to the hexapods!

    1. Re:I, for one, welcome our new hexapod overlords! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could beat this hexapod in a footrace on crutches. It's usefulness is practically 0. It's a pet project, and a proof of concept, but certainly not a vehicle that'll do any better than modern ATVs, Humvees, and plain old walking.

    2. Re:I, for one, welcome our new hexapod overlords! by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      It's better than your hexamech.

      Haters gonna hate.

    3. Re:I, for one, welcome our new hexapod overlords! by lxs · · Score: 1

      That's not hate. It is disappointment. We were all expecting for so much more from this.

  10. That don't impress me much. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Going from the promo video, the thing is heavy, slow, huge, seats only one and isn't even terrain capable. Maybe Micromagic Systems is a subsidiary of EA?

  11. Some appropriate tags by Tx · · Score: 2

    #notarobot
    #notquick
    #bumpyride
    #ihatespiders
    #diedubstepdie

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  12. Sorry, expect downvotes by captain_dope_pants · · Score: 1

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of these robot overlords running linux, in Russia, throwing chairs !

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  13. Linux inside? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has a stigma!

  14. Ohshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once Skynet takes control of that, we're so fucked.

    1. Re:Ohshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, if you see one of those sleek killbots you only have 2-3 years to run away before it gets you!

  15. Reminds me of the Timberjack by xarragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    This sort of technology has been available for some time, I remember seeing this six-legged forest machine complete with crane and cutting machinery back in the early 2000s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYh54Qdh_5g Apprently it was developed in Finland by John Deree, and was only displayed rwecently (2012 press release): http://www.deere.com/wps/dcom/en_US/corporate/our_company/news_and_media/press_releases/2012/forestry/2012apr10_walking_harvester.page

    1. Re:Reminds me of the Timberjack by umghhh · · Score: 1

      but this timberjack is doing stuff which diminishes the fun factor.

    2. Re:Reminds me of the Timberjack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 2003 I was working on an automation project and the general consensus amongst the team members was that PC104 was too crappy and obsolete to consider for any new development.

    3. Re:Reminds me of the Timberjack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was not developed by John Deere, they just acquired the tech *after* it was developed.
      You Americans like to buy or rewrite history when you can't claim you invented cool stuff, just like with the recent Wired article that all but marginalizes Nokia's fundamental contribution to the mobile phone industry.

    4. Re:Reminds me of the Timberjack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only one of two in existence, Deere's walking harvester on display at the John Deere Pavilion in Moline was designed by Deere's research and development unit in Finland in the 1990s, but it "was ahead of its time" and never reached the production phase. Manufactured in 1994, this walking harvester machine was the first to be equipped with a harvesting head and accumulated approximately 2000 working hours during testing.

  16. Brain. by Seumas · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who read the headline three times, before realizing it said "LINUX brain" instead of "HUMAN brain"?

    1. Re:Brain. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes

    2. Re:Brain. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

    3. Re:Brain. by bughunter · · Score: 1

      Apparently so.

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    4. Re:Brain. by Sigg3.net · · Score: 1

      Which from the actual story seems like a more accurate description. It has a human brain, just like a car.

    5. Re:Brain. by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Thank you - I feel ever so slightly vindicated, now. :)

  17. bad PR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the people can see is : this "linux brain" is a bit slow...

  18. The point? by loufoque · · Score: 1

    What is the point of this?
    It's slow and probably consumes a lot of fuel.

    I'd rather take a car or a motorcycle.

  19. PC/104? ugh. by gmarsh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From personal experience.

    Never put a PC/104 setup in a system that's going to be subjected to vibration, you'll cause the connector to wear out and eventually one of the important pins on the PC/104 connector will fail. And when it does, the ISA bus presented on the PC104 connector doesn't have any error detection/correction either, meaning your system may not fail gracefully.

    Not something you want in a large robot.

    1. Re:PC/104? ugh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      issue that you can easily solve ...

    2. Re:PC/104? ugh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is why you do a good job of shock mounting any electronics in the frame. Also if you want better speed you will have to add air rams to the leg movements to increase walking speed. But don't expect it to win races with mopeds. At our society’s current level of technology and R&D spending we can only do so much.

    3. Re:PC/104? ugh. by Animats · · Score: 1

      Never put a PC/104 setup in a system that's going to be subjected to vibration

      PC-104 is rather retro at this point, but there is something called a Can-Tainer for using PC-104 in hostile environments. "Internally, each corner of the PC/104 stack is held in place by a rubber corner system ... Externally, the anodized aluminum enclosure mates with a thick rubber-mounting pad..."

      We tried one of those in 2003-2005 for our DARPA Grand Challenge vehicle. (Getting board stacks into the Can-Tainer is a huge pain.) Even then, PC-104 was retro. We ended up with Tri-M industrial Pentium 4 PCs, which turned out to have an overheating problem due to really lame case design. (The CPU fan was aimed at a solid metal case bottom.) Back then there were fewer rugged computer options. Today, that situation is much better. There are good low-cost "Car PC" devices suitable for the automotive environment. Mobile hard drives are smaller and more shock-resistant. So today, getting enough compute power onto your large robot isn't a problem.

      It's a good time to build robots. Many of the pieces that were hard to find or troublesome a decade ago are now mature products. Rugged computers, laser rangefinders, high precision GPS systems, attitude and heading reference systems, and servomotor controllers are all commercially available and not outrageously priced. A decade ago, you could get all of those things, but they were more expensive and didn't work as well.

  20. My baby. My mechanical masterpiece! by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

    So nearly complete. So nearly perfect! If you only have a Linux brain....

    .

  21. Closing statement by CODiNE · · Score: 1

    // Design + Build = Inspire;

    I can see why they commented it out.

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  22. "Call me Mantis... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ,Mantis Toboggan."

  23. What is the point? by danlip · · Score: 1

    Slow as heck and can't actually climb anything (as far as I can tell from the video) which is the only real reason to have legs instead of wheels.

  24. wild wild west by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wild wild west cosplay

  25. BEAM me up. by Ostracus · · Score: 1

    Wonder if BEAM is being used behind the scenes?

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  26. Dupe by indy_Muad'Dib · · Score: 1

    didnt jamie manzel do this a few years ago? http://jamius.com/Robot/Robot.html

  27. Clunky gaits by Animats · · Score: 1

    Painfully true. All the jerkyness in the video seems to be to conceal what a klutz the thing is. It's comparable to the OSU Hexapod from 1984. The OSU thing was supposed to have "off-road" capability, but it never did more than climb a slightly sloped dirt road. DoD cut off their funding after that.

    As with the machine from 30 years ago, there seems to be an option to plant five legs and take manual control of the sixth. That's how they kicked the barrel. With this capability, the operator can (eventually) step over obstacles and ditches.

    Mantis seems to have nice mechanical design. It's certainly better looking than the OSU machine. Without details of the hydraulic system, though, you can't tell how controllable it is. If it's all on-off valves with no accumulators for springiness and no force feedback, it's doomed to be clunky. If it has proportional valves, strain gauges, and accumulators in the right places, it has the potential for software upgrades to better movement.

    The Mantis looks like it has pure kinematic control, like the 1980s OSU machine. There's been some progress in computing and control since the 1980s. You can do dynamic control, where balance and inertia are considered. Maybe not as good as BigDog, but better than pure kinematic. That thing should be able to go a lot faster on the flat. Hobbyist hexapod robots are moving faster and much more fluidly today.

  28. Finally! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    This is the year of Linux on..... ummm....the ...... Whatever the hell that thing is.

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  29. Asimov's laws of robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, we don't have autonomous robots yet. But I fear that when we do, we will more likely have self-replicating human killing machines than robots obeying Asmiov's robotic laws. Why? 1. If you propose them seriously, you looking like a fool, because, 2, people won't do that, so therefore #1 is the action of a fool, except 3., people will build robots for the express purposed to kill the enemy or evil doers, because they consider it moral and reasonable. Heck, the US is using drones around the world controlled from bases in the American Southwest. As time goes on more and more of the functions humans control will be taken over by automation.

    At least my estimate lifespan is only another 20 years or so...