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earthwormgaz writes "I've set up a Linux XBMC + MythTV with FreeView machine for the lounge at home. It works pretty well for Linux, although things crash here and there. The Mrs wants LoveFilm or Netflix, but it seems they're Silverlight and not Linux friendly. Is there anyone doing streaming film and TV with Flash or something else that works on Linux? Failing that, is there anyway to download a film for £4-6 say, as just an AVI file or something, legally?"

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  1. Google Much? by ADRA · · Score: 2

    http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux

    As per finding a legal DRM-free film, your chances are zero for 99% of everything you'd like to watch, and just highly unlikely for the remaining 1%. Any sites that would advertise such are most likely priating the movies and then selling for profit.

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    1. Re:Google Much? by spanky_poppagasket · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wine or a virtual machine? Both options listed on the linked page are lame- I know I've tried them. Buggy or laggy, take your pick, and they generally don't take full advantage of hardware.

      To the OP, there's youtube, hulu plus, or each network's website might have full shows as well. Netflix works on an Xbox quite well so buy one of those- there's also other streaming video apps available on Xbox live, but some are subscription based last time I checked.

  2. netflix is fine on linux by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a Netflix App for Linux that runs through Wine. It works perfectly fine.

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    1. Re:netflix is fine on linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is a Netflix App for Linux that runs through Wine. It works perfectly fine.

      It's really simple to get netflix on ubuntu, here's a howto:
      http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019

  3. Backwards by Tim+Ward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The usual answer to questions like this is:

    (1) Decide what you want the computer to do

    (2) Acquire the right platform.

    Syaing "I've already got [whatever platform], how do I make it do what I want?" is often not a helpful approach.

    1. Re:Backwards by LourensV · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The usual answer to questions like this is:

      (1) Decide what you want the computer to do

      (2) Acquire the right platform.

      Syaing "I've already got [whatever platform], how do I make it do what I want?" is often not a helpful approach.

      If RMS and Linus had followed that advice, GNU, Linux, and probably Slashdot would never have existed. Why should one have to buy Windows and allow customer-hostile DRM software on ones computer to be able to watch a movie easily and legally? It's your computer, and the whole point of owning it is that you can make it do what you want. Trying to do just that seems perfectly reasonable to me, and I can't see how any system that doesn't allow you to do that could be the "right platform" for anything.

    2. Re:Backwards by seinman · · Score: 2

      I went with a Mac. The Mac Mini is perfect for this sort of setup, and runs all the software I need it to (XBMC, Plex, etc) and plays all the formats I want (I use VLC), AND streams everything I want (Hulu, Netflix). Never crashes, has a built in IR reciever that I use with a Harmony remote, and uses very little electricity.

    3. Re:Backwards by Nutria · · Score: 2

      Honest question: why roll your own when there are dozens of embedded Linux boxes that already do it all for $50-$100?

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  4. Re:There are plenty of embedded media players by fat_mike · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm going to spread much Roku love. Amazon instant video, Netflix, Hulu, just about every church sermon in the country, The Blaze, all your premium cable channels, etc. And its a cute little hockey puck.

  5. If money is no object by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (1) Decide what you want the computer to do
    (2) Acquire the right platform.

    I agree that is a usable approach if money is no object.

    Syaing "I've already got [whatever platform], how do I make it do what I want?" is often not a helpful approach.

    If you have to make do with the hardware that you already own, the "often not a helpful approach" is the only approach apart from doing without.

    1. Re:If money is no object by mrjb · · Score: 3, Funny

      You are aware that you can build a decent multimedia system for about 400$US, right?

      Not everyone has 400$ to spare.

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    2. Re:If money is no object by dcherryholmes · · Score: 2

      I think Redbox is making a killing, which would undermine your point. Just because someone doesn't have $400 in one chunk, that doesn't mean they might not have $4 every week or so.

    3. Re:If money is no object by Nutria · · Score: 2

      A system that plays video (local, LAN-based and Internet streaming) is only $100.

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    4. Re:If money is no object by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      True. I often find hardware for free or nearly free though that is capable of doing what he needs. It's not perfect condition cosmetically often but I've gotten perfectly good core2duo windows boxes that are so choked with malware that people throw them out and buy another one since Best Buy charges a ton to clean them up and most people are helpless to do it themselves. It's amazing what lands on the curb, I know I made about 2 grand one year cleaning up those things by reinstalling windows and selling them off.

  6. Great Britain by tepples · · Score: 2
    From the article:

    Failing that, is there anyway to download a film for 4-6 GBP

    aitikin wrote:

    Hulu Desktop

    Since when did Hulu expand to a country that uses pounds as its currency?

    1. Re:Great Britain by grumbel · · Score: 3, Informative

      Since when did Hulu expand to a country that uses pounds as its currency?

      MediaHint is a Firefox plugin that makes Hulu work in countries where it otherwise would not.

  7. my already implemented solution by louden+obscure · · Score: 2

    a roku hockey puck and plex media server running on my debian server and also my debian desktop. if i can't find what i want on netflix or any of the other channels on the roku i grab a torrent. i was using a soft-modded 1st gen xbox and xbmc but got the roku for Christmas. there are compromises using either set-up.

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  8. Re:There are plenty of embedded media players by cknudsen · · Score: 3, Informative

    More Roku love... You can do local media if you have the right model. Roku 3 has a USB port for local media. You can also stream your entire ripped DVD collection direct to your Roku with Plex (which has a Linux server in addition to Windows and Mac), which will give you a much nicer UI than DLNA.

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  9. Re:amazon by MollyB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In theory, your pronouncement would seem correct. However, I've just tried to set up Amazon Instant Video and it does not work in Firefox 20 on Lucid Lynx 10.04. It throws up a progress bar which ends with an error message that my version of Adobe Flash is not up to date (not true!). I'm glad I tried with a "free" video (I was charged $0.00). Try before you buy.

    I had unblocked all scripting, btw. When I tried the help button, it referred me to a page that explained why Chrome (-ium?) won't work on Linux and to try Firefox! Head asplodes...

    YMMV.

  10. Re:There are plenty of embedded media players by Nutria · · Score: 2

    The WD TV Live does DLNA right out of the box. No need to install the Plex Media Server on my Linux box. The simple dlna server I've been using for two years works just fine.

    One big reason I bought that WD unit is that the web page said, "plays DLNA". No need to hunt around or interpret ambiguous marketing-speak.

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  11. Roku? by mark_reh · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just got a Roku 3 and the user interface issues of the previous versions are fixed. Response is snappy and you can stream video from Plex media server (native Linux app) and other streaming servers (Playon, from Windows, for example). The Roku box will handle Netflix for you (and Hulu+) and will be easy enough for your wife to use without any training, and you'll have access to all your HDD based content as well.

  12. Android tablet by rwa2 · · Score: 2

    Netflix works pretty well on Android, just pick up a nice Tegra tablet with an HDMI output and you're all set.

    Or just buy a used Windows laptop to run Netflix on. It's not like that box is ever going to be doing anything else, so it'll free up your nice PCs to run Linux and get actual work done.

  13. Re:amazon by yelvington · · Score: 2

    Amazon's streaming service is flaky with linux. The issue is DRM which for some reson is not supported in the linux version of the flash player.

    Amazon video works fine under Ubuntu. Use Firefox, not Chrome.
    From the FAQ

    Why can't I watch videos on my Chrome browser in Linux?
    The Flash Player Plugin in Chrome removed support for Digital Rights Management (DRM) in Linux as part of the upgrade from 11.3 to 11.4. This upgrade was bundled with the latest Chrome 22 update for Linux. If you applied the Chrome update, you are no longer able to watch DRM-protected content, such as movies and TV episodes. Trailers are unaffected as they do not use DRM. To get around this issue, you can use a different browser, such as Firefox. For information on Chrome and the Flash Player plug-in, see: https://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=3757

  14. Re:amazon by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm afraid I can't let you do that Dave.

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  15. Re:amazon by duphenix · · Score: 5, Informative

    Delete your ~./adobe folder and try again. I'd link to where I first saw this solution if I could remember it. I have to do this every few months, whenever Amazon "updates" the player.

  16. There is a PPA for that by moj0joj0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    For quite some time I just resigned myself to the fact that I'd have to boot into windows or use some other poor method to get my netflix on... then Erich Hoover arrived with a heroic flast to his eye, chin thrust forward and proclaimed, "Do not go gentle into that sudo shutdown -r now! Rage, rage against the needlessness of these cursed reboots!

    Here is how to install the Netflix Desktop App on Ubuntu. Open a terminal and run these commands:
    sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ehoover/compholio
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install netflix-desktop More info here: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html

  17. Flash Access requires libhal, hald by tlambert · · Score: 5, Informative

    Flash Access requires libhal, hald

    This has been known since Feb 2011, which Amazon started encoding new content for TV shows using the newer version of Flash Access.

    The Flash Access Component requires that the local machine support Libhal and hald, even though they are deprecated by over 7 years now by the OpenDesktop project.

    It uses the information gathered from this interface to create a machine unique identifier, which it then uses as a content crypto key on the stream, and then you can play Amazon, Youtube, and Google Play content just fine.

    Otherwise it bitches that your Flash is "out of date", when what it really means is that it can't install the Flash Access component because the libraries and supporting components used in the installation success test aren't there.

    Most streaming applications won't support Linux because it doesn't require signed system components, and without that, the can't protect their content from piracy, commercial skipping, and so on when they stream to Linux systems; it's too easy to interpose libraries, system calls, and so on and take unencrypted digital content and rip it to some mp4 or other container file format.

    This is also why the components from Provo, Utak for abc.com, nbc.com, and cbs.com have never been ported to Linux, and probably never will be.