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Microsoft: Facebook Home Is a Copycat, Windows Phone Is the 'Real Thing'

colinneagle writes "Frank X. Shaw, VP of Corporate Communications at Microsoft, did not seem happy about Facebook's Home announcement when he wrote, 'I tuned into the coverage of the Facebook Home event yesterday and actually had to check my calendar a few times. Not to see if it was still April Fools Day, but to see if it was somehow still 2011. Because the content of the presentation was remarkably similar to the launch event we did for Windows Phone two years ago.' Shaw also posted Microsoft's 'Put people first with Windows Phone 7.5' video before writing, 'We understand why Facebook would want to find a way to bring similar functionality to a platform that is sadly lacking it.'"

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  1. Children, children... by Kenja · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's no need to fight, you BOTH suck.

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    1. Re:Children, children... by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny

      Indeed. This seems more like a battle for a hill so small neither can stand on it.

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    2. Re:Children, children... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This was just a terrifically bad idea on Shaw's part. Desperately pleading that you did something first so you should get some attention is never going to win you sales or good PR. That said, it doesn't seem like Microsoft really has any other strategy (except perhaps for their video game market, where they bought their relevance.)

    3. Re:Children, children... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      King of the shrill?

    4. Re:Children, children... by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Have you ever known Microsoft to do anything really intelligent to win good PR and sales? Every one of their marketing campaigns has been a complete debacle (remember the people running around in MSN butterfly outfits? Or the commercial for Microsoft SongSmith?). I don't know where MS gets their marketing people, but they're probably the worst in the Fortune 500.

    5. Re:Children, children... by rtb61 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No the Facebook product is quite different. You have to stop thinking of yourself as the typical user and think about the real typical user. I would be concerned for Facebook addicts and this device that makes addiction simpler, quite a few people are going to find themselves in serious psychological trouble. The unrealities of who and who are not really friends, competition in perceived social acceptance and distortion of self image, makes this device and the actual greed driven intent behind this device in it's application quite nasty. Designed from the get go to be psychologically addictive for those susceptible to it. Facebook have demonstrated how nasty they are and how aggressively they will target those vulnerable to their manipulations. To be clear I did go through that whole laborious process of deleting my account because it became apparent how privacy invasive they truly were and definitely not to be trusted.

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    6. Re:Children, children... by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Regarding facebook games... This has turned into the primary reason the stove timer is backed up by the smoke alarm.

      beep... beep... beep... beep... beep...

      BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

      "Sounds like dinner's ready."

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    7. Re:Children, children... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed. This seems more like a battle for a hill so small neither can stand on it.

      Worse than that. Facebook puked up yet-another-UI-twist on top of their giant dataset that keeps people coming back through all the UI twists and Microsoft attempted to take credit for the design.

      When was the last time somebody said something nice about Facebook's UI/UX? They're like the Ebay of social networking: network effects are very strongly in their favor; but everyone spends all their time loathing them for everything else. Why would Microsoft do anything but distance themselves from that?

    8. Re:Children, children... by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Informative

      You really think MS's marketing campaigns have led it to success?

      MS was successful because they were in the right place at the right time by providing the OS to IBM's PC, whose open architecture made it popular for cloning, and because of this popularity tons of application software ran on top of it. Of course a bunch of dirty tricks to ruin competitors didn't hurt, plus they made/bought out some office software which became the business standards. There weren't any advertising campaigns, ever, that helped them in these endeavors.

    9. Re:Children, children... by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Microsoft is successful because of their product managers who do a good job responding to customer requests. Their customers of course, are businesses, not consumers. And their communication with customers is amazing. They are a model of how to build a B2B company.

      Their consumer outreach, including their marketing, has always been bad.

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    10. Re:Children, children... by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Microsoft is successful because of their product managers who do a good job responding to customer requests. Their customers of course, are businesses, not consumers.

      So explain Windows 8.

      Which business customers were demanding a touch-screen tablet UI on their desktop PCs?

  2. Which launch event? by symbolset · · Score: 5, Funny
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  3. because microsoft is always completely original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Last time I checked everything microsoft has ever done is remarkably similar to things others have been doing for years.

    1. Re:because microsoft is always completely original by alen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      the kinect was originally made up by an israeli defense contractor
      they pitched it to apple first but didn't want to sign NDA's and agreements not to pitch it to anyone else even if apple refused it
      MS loved it and took it on to develop it further

    2. Re:because microsoft is always completely original by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What was it Metro was similar to, again?

      Dog shit?

    3. Re:because microsoft is always completely original by VortexCortex · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What was it Metro was similar to, again?

      Meh, rhetorical question, but I actually have that link so here you go:
      AOL Kids 1996 vs The UI formerly known as Metro

  4. Microsoft v Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whoever loses, we win.

  5. Somebody call the whaaaambulance! by sootman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are they also upset that they invented the Tablet PC in 2002 and then Apple ate their lunch eight years later by actually delivering it in an appealing form factor that people actually wanted ? "Waaah, waaah, we were fiiiiirst!" Apple learned that "first" doesn't always equal success, but they quit whining about it and did something about it instead. Worked out pretty well for them.

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  6. Companies are becoming like political parties by Morgaine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    [No axe to grind since I use neither MS nor FB ...]

    Stories like this one remind me of politicians playing party politics and slagging off everything the opposition does and says instead of focusing on whether it's a good idea or not.

    It seems that long gone are the days when the top companies competed on product and politics was (ostensibly) about doing the best for the nation. Doing good work has become quite secondary to politicking (in the worst sense of the word) in both areas.

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  7. Chanting this in the hallways... by SethJohnson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are they also upset that they invented the Tablet PC in 2002 and then Apple ate their lunch eight years later by actually delivering it in an appealing form factor that people actually wanted ?

    I'm not sure how you're sourcing this, but this is actually a very accurate depiction of Microsoft's deluded perspective. A couple of years ago, a friend of mine was working as a consultant on some projects with Microsoft and was flying to Redmond frequently. I asked him if the people he was working with were feeling disillusioned about where they've been heading and their prospects against the competition. He related that they were proud that their company had already invented the tablet several years ago.

    Internally, they must be bragging about that as a morale-booster or something in the face of pretty daunting prospects for what they're working on now.

    Seth

    1. Re:Chanting this in the hallways... by jellyfoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In my experience with a few Microsoft employees, I have yet to meet any of them who are highly critical about the direction the company is headed. They all seem to believe the radical decisions made by the company will pay off in some way despite the mass hatred towards them.

      The only ones that are truly critical about Microsoft, no longer work there. I'm strongly of the belief that Microsoft has a very good indoctrinating and brainwashing methodology with their employees. This infallible belief in thinking they're at the forefront of technology and know what's best for tech can only be explained by mass delusion. Which horrifies me.

  8. What ever happened to professionalism and respect? by jellyfoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, I'm getting fucking tired of companies slagging off at each other, with either aggressive or passive aggressive comments made between various CEOs or VPs or whoever thinks they're important enough to get the spotlight for a few minutes.

    Make good stuff that people want. If a competitor is doing something that's risks drawing attention away from your stuff, don't act like children. Just shut the fuck up and present something even better. If you feel you have to acknowledge the competition, do it with some old-fashioned class for goodness sake. This bickering gets old extremely fast.

  9. Both of them are wrong by miroku000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Both of them are based on the previous Adroid-based Motoblur. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motoblur