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Crazy Eric Schmidt, His Yacht Prices Are Insaaane!

theodp writes "After languishing on the market, the price of Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt's Lone Ranger expedition yacht was cut from $20,000,000 to a mere $14,000,000 (sales brochure). Still no takers for the vessel, so the former pride of the Schmidt Ocean Institute — which can travel an amazing 31,000 miles at 12 knots thanks to a fuel capacity of 1.3 million liters — will be auctioned "as is" on April 20th at the Antibes Yacht Show, with bid estimates ranging from EUR 3 million to EUR 10 million (auction brochure). 'Lone Ranger and her truly astonishing story will appeal to a new generation of luxury yacht owner,' the sales brochure notes. 'The yacht epitomizes low key luxury, but most importantly offers the ideal platform for anyone wanting to explore the farthest flung corners of the world with their family.' And you can buy it just in time for Earth Day gift giving!"

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  1. Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh look, it says "George Town, Cayman Islands" beneath the name on the ship ... and the brochure says "NOT FOR SALE OR CHARTER TO U.S. RESIDENTS WHILE IN U.S. WATERS."

    Taxes are such a bitch, aren't they Eric?

    1. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by deadweight · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and the brochure says "NOT FOR SALE OR CHARTER TO U.S. RESIDENTS WHILE IN U.S. WATERS." That has been standard in boat ads for decades and yes, it has to do with taxes paid to register the boat. BTW, the secandary market for these boats can be rough. Once you pass a few million, you can afford your own new custom design.

    2. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by phantomfive · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Who, exactly, pays more taxes than they have to? Feel free to, the donation information is here.

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    3. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by schneidafunk · · Score: 3, Funny

      Apparently funneled through Google's lunch system.

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    4. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by alexander_686 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Boeing does the same thing – It sells all of its aircraft while flying in international waters – that way customers don’t have to pay sales tax. (Not exactly the same thing as registration fees, but in the same area.)

    5. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by deadweight · · Score: 1

      To be totally technically correct, the actual registration costs somewhere between free and maybe $40-$50. But they will not give you a registration without the sales tax being paid. Also their is import duty for a foreign-built boat. Maryland would let me slide if I could prove I bought the boat in another state and paid tax there, but if they see a boat that has never had a USA registration, import duty, or sales tax paid then I am on the hook for *a lot* of cash.

    6. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by afidel · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think Boing sells their aircraft flying in international waters, over internal waters or in international airspace maybe.

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    7. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Oh look, it says "George Town, Cayman Islands" beneath the name on the ship ... and the brochure says "NOT FOR SALE OR CHARTER TO U.S.
      RESIDENTS WHILE IN U.S. WATERS."

      Taxes are such a bitch, aren't they Eric?

      Given the way that various large economies have been starting to lean on dinky tax havens about the details of what they do lately, I'm a little surprised that the Coast Guard hasn't been flirting with a "Oh, no support contract? I hope you like either per-incident support fees or very long distance swims..." policy for ships registered in places with that flavor.

    8. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Does it come with a full tank of gas?

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    9. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by ShooterNeo · · Score: 2

      Are you saying that when a Boeing aircraft is actually sold, the buyers and the sales team get onboard, they take off, fly out over the nearest ocean, and sign the bill of sale while IN FLIGHT? That's crazy amusing.

    10. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      I wonder could you do the same with a piece of software? Risky business having it be the only version on earth mind you...

    11. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Well, it also enables the buyer to join and or re-join the mile-high club...

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    12. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Are you saying that when a Boeing aircraft is actually sold, the buyers and the sales team get onboard, they take off, fly out over the nearest ocean, and sign the bill of sale while IN FLIGHT? That's crazy amusing.

      That is absolutely correct, at least for USA based airline customers. The actual transfer of ownership occurs inflight in international airspace and as an added bonus the first point of landing is in Oregon to avoid state sales taxes---or at least it was a few years ago when I was aboard one such flight.

      (I am a commercial airline pilot for a major US airline and thus the AC.)

    13. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      User pays is not typically associated with liberals, they're the ones on the "ability to pay" side of that divide.

    14. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by nobodyknowsimageek · · Score: 1

      I don't think the treaties necessarily would prohibit charging fees after a rescue. Certainly you can be fined after a rescue if you were negligent; it doesn't take too much to imagine a fee charged for a rescue if the boat owner was a US citizen and yet had avoided paying sales tax on their yacht by registering in a tax-haven, and was subsequently rescued in US waters.

      It could even be structured so that the fee would be nominal for "normal" boats; e.g. 0.1% of the last sale price. But that $20M yacht? That will be $20 grand please.

      Most "normal" boat owners will have paid the sales tax anyway, and be exempt from the fee.

    15. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Right, and you report everything you buy on Amazon to your state and pay sales tax on it, right? Because a lot of people engage in similar types of 'evasion.'

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    16. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      Well, 47% of people pay no income tax so they don't pay more than they have to. For the remaining 53%, if you don't read through the tax code (or pay someone else to do so), if you don't alter your behavior to qualify for available deductions and credits, you're paying more than you have to.

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    17. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      Funny; that was the first thing I was thinking the post was going to be about when I read the title.

    18. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by FatSean · · Score: 1

      Another business will arise to capture the customers left by the non-competitive business.

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    19. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      How is income tax relevant to a thread about avoiding non-income taxes?

      Or perhaps those 47% pay a significant wage tax (which is regressive), as well as all sorts of local taxes, so for this context it's completely wrong to use?

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    20. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that the laws surrounding salvage allow for a hell of a lot more than that for rescuing a ship in peril.

      I can totally see it as appropriate for the government to use those laws for ships that are not registered under its jurisdiction. It;d still be beneficial on the average to use the tax haven, but at least the government would get compensated for its protection of those not paying the taxes.

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    21. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by antdude · · Score: 1

      Boing? :P

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    22. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Most people, who don't have money to pay for creative accountants, or good lawyers if they get caught?

    23. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Right, and you report everything you buy on Amazon to your state and pay sales tax on it, right? Because a lot of people engage in similar types of 'evasion.'

      Ironically, this would actually qualify as "tax evasion", because the buyer is evading paying taxes that he/she owes.
      What Boeing (purportedly) does is not tax evasion at all. It is taking steps to not even OWE tax, and so therefore, they can't be evading tax. What Boeing (purportedly) does is similar to driving two towns over to buy a big ticket item because their sales tax is cheaper (or nonexistent) there.

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    24. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Why do you pay more money than you have to? Stop doing that.

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    25. Re:Probably Bought with Laundered Tax Free Income by Farmer+Pete · · Score: 1

      That was my question. Talk about jackpot if it did.

  2. ugly by RearNakedChoke · · Score: 2

    That is one ugly yacht. A tug converted into a yacht? That's like converting a dump truck into a limo.

    1. Re:ugly by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A dump truck would actually offer a lot of room to work with...

      Ugly, sure; but you'd have a passenger compartment larger than some New York apartments to add ostentatious touches to.

    2. Re:ugly by MrDoh! · · Score: 2

      If I was rich enough to have to worry about getting a yacht, this is exactly the type I'd want to get (I think). Doesn't scream out 'hey, rich person here!', you can moor up in odd places and not stick out that some white and gold monstrosity would. I like it.

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    3. Re:ugly by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      That;s a lovely boat. It's a work boat, not a pagoda on a glass brick like some other luxury yachts we've dissected. It might even weather a real storm in a real ocean as opposed to sinking at the dock as soon as the tide turned.

      He should donate to a real oceanography group, Scripps, Texas A&M, hell, NOAA could probably use it.

      Or, if he will simply transfer the title to me, I'll pay for the moorage and start buying lottery tickets to put fuel in the thing. Maybe a kickstarter project....

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    4. Re:ugly by deadweight · · Score: 1

      +1 I would buy that boat if I didn't already have one. Also I have no money, see my previous sentence. This boat is 9,000X better than some butt-ugly floating disco-bachelor-party-limo POS that will sink in the first storm it sees. I used to work on those crap-tastic "yachts" and I always thought "beer taste on champagne budget".

    5. Re:ugly by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      If I was rich enough to have to worry about getting a yacht, this is exactly the type I'd want to get

      Well, being a tug, it can only make 19 knots, but it can also pull half a supertanker behind it. You never know when that might come in handy.

      I actually like it. Looks like a proper boat. Ship.

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    6. Re:ugly by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      I don't think that's a yacht, it's a research boat.

    7. Re:ugly by rockout · · Score: 1

      "beer taste on champagne budget".

      Still, that probably beats having it the other way 'round.

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    8. Re:ugly by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      You can work with Champagne taste on a beer budget, but you can't work with a beer taste on champagne budget. Though it pays more, it ends up a FUGLY mess.

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    9. Re:ugly by scheme · · Score: 1

      That;s a lovely boat. It's a work boat, not a pagoda on a glass brick like some other luxury yachts we've dissected. It might even weather a real storm in a real ocean as opposed to sinking at the dock as soon as the tide turned.

      He should donate to a real oceanography group, Scripps, Texas A&M, hell, NOAA could probably use it.

      Or, if he will simply transfer the title to me, I'll pay for the moorage and start buying lottery tickets to put fuel in the thing. Maybe a kickstarter project....

      Given that it was used in oceanographic research cruises in the Antarctic, I think it's probably already weathered some real storms and been through some pretty crazy seas before. The specs on the thing make it look like it'd be a nice working vessel.

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    10. Re:ugly by pspahn · · Score: 1

      "beer taste on champagne budget"

      Forgive me, I'm from Denver, but I don't understand this phrase... Is this to infer that champagne is actually more expensive than beer?

      Huh... go figure.

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    11. Re:ugly by gmack · · Score: 1

      Ugly and non creative. For what he spent on that he could have had a luxury submarine

    12. Re:ugly by gmack · · Score: 1

      Wrong link. Meant to use this one

    13. Re:ugly by rockout · · Score: 1

      You're speaking from the point of view of the worker. Given the choice of the two, I'd prefer to be the guy with the big budget.

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    14. Re:ugly by Farmer+Pete · · Score: 1

      It would be great if I ever wanted to become a pirate. I could pull the supertankers to my secret base and plunder them.

  3. Yacht? by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's a yacht? Looks like a commercial fishing vessel or a coast guard cutter.

    I suppose if you need to intercept drug smugglers or rescue someone it might be the thing... but most yacht buyers are looking for a nice place to drape their naked women.

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    1. Re:Yacht? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > ... but most yacht buyers are looking for a nice place to drape their naked women.

      It has a hot tub and a crane. What more do you want?

    2. Re:Yacht? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It seems to be more of a research vessel. It's a seriously ugly yacht, especially for that kind of money.

      Boats are holes in the water you throw money into. That thing makes one whopping big hole.

    3. Re:Yacht? by houghi · · Score: 1

      It still look a lot better then the iYacht.

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    4. Re:Yacht? by LoudMusic · · Score: 1

      It's more of a research vessel with amenities for the pampered. I've been on Falkor (also mentioned in the article) which is their current SOI vessel. It's far nicer than a typical work boat, but certainly not up to the class and sophistication of the actual super and mega yachts I've been on. I never had an opportunity to visit Lone Ranger, but I imagine it's quite similar to Falkor with possibly nicer owner spaces.

      I guess you could think of these ships more as SUVs than luxury autos, to belabor the car analogy. They can still be luxurious, but their purpose is more about "going anywhere" and being self sufficient. There is a building trend of "fleet" ships rather than solo ships as well. See Golden Fleet as an example. They have three ships and a plane. Golden Odyssey and Golden Osprey being the 'pleasure craft', and Golden Shadow being a support vessel that carries fuel, toys, machine shop, and the seaplane Golden Eye. It's likely that Lone Ranger could fill a similar role. But it would need to be renamed ;)

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    5. Re:Yacht? by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Gahd, the women are not supposed to be of that size, if you need a crane to lift them out of the hot tub on your private yacht you are doing it wrong.

    6. Re:Yacht? by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      I still can't believe someone actually made that...

    7. Re:Yacht? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      It still look a lot better then the iYacht.

      Zombie steve's iYacht only makes it to number 5 on google's ugliest yacht list.

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    8. Re:Yacht? by pspahn · · Score: 1

      this is the perfect boat for them

      Sounds useful to future serial killer sailor who is finally fed up with the increasing % of fat chicks.

      "Hey baby... wanna go out to sea?"

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    9. Re:Yacht? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Some people like women who respond positively to "hey baby, wanna take a cruise to Antarctica?"

    10. Re:Yacht? by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Sounds useful to future serial killer sailor who is finally fed up with the increasing % of fat chicks.

      - and you can make it profitable at the same time if you wish, market the product as: whale in a tub.

    11. Re:Yacht? by camperdave · · Score: 2

      It's likely that Lone Ranger could fill a similar role. But it would need to be renamed ;)

      Just name the other vessels Ltwo Ranger, LthreeRanger, etc. Then Lone Ranger won't be out of place.

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    12. Re:Yacht? by cffrost · · Score: 1

      I still can't believe someone actually made that...

      I still can't believe no one's actually scuttled it...

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    13. Re:Yacht? by mkiwi · · Score: 1

      It's not hard to do... just target the bridge deflector shield (as seen on right of the bridge superstructure in the GP's picture) generator and fire a proton torpedo into the bridge. Like Beggar's Canyon back home...

    14. Re:Yacht? by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, WTF is the point of a yacht that burns hydrocarbons as primary power? Sails ftw.

  4. Jealousy issue? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1, Informative

    People like to gripe about what "rich people" buy with their cash. But why not spen it on toys if you can afford it? Unless the current Group Think is that Rich People should give away all their money a la Bill Gates?

    Jealousy issue?

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    1. Re:Jealousy issue? by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Yeah they think that not a single unionized shipyard worker was paid for this boat.

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    2. Re:Jealousy issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      People like to gripe about what "rich people" buy with their cash. But why not spen it on toys if you can afford it? Unless the current Group Think is that Rich People should give away all their money a la Bill Gates?

      Jealousy issue?

      I'm all for rich people buying whatever toys they want.

      I just want them to pay tax on them, just like I pay tax on the toys that I can afford.

    3. Re:Jealousy issue? by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      Some states don't have a sales tax. Does that bother you?

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    4. Re:Jealousy issue? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      I just want them to pay tax on them, just like I pay tax on the toys that I can afford.

      So you don't take advantage of any tax rules - er, "loopholes" - that apply to YOUR taxes, because you're just such a stong supported of paying your fair share, and, well, the Government can always use a little more?

      Or are you saying that tax breaks - "loopholes" if you will - are only for middle-class peeps? Once you become "rich" it's OK for the government to rape your cash store?

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    5. Re:Jealousy issue? by couchslug · · Score: 1

      We should encourage the rich to buy expensive things, because it employs skilled workers.

      Welders, fitters, electronics tech, subcontractors, engine and drive manufacturers, radar and nav system makers, and many others made money off that fancy boat.

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    6. Re:Jealousy issue? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      When you lose 7-40% of your money every time you do something with it, you stop doing stuff with it. It doesn't hurt the people with the money, it hurts the people that could provide a service or good that money used to buy, because the people with the money will protect it. Liberals do not understand this very principle and think it is "greed".

      I'll tell you what greed looks like, it looks like people who want other peoples money just for existing. Be it big business or government.

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    7. Re:Jealousy issue? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      I just want them to pay tax on them, just like I pay tax on the toys that I can afford.

      If you buy online and don't report Use Tax, then you are doing the exact same thing. No scratch that. You are doing worse. That would be tax evasion. If you go two towns over to where they have cheaper sales tax and buy your luxury items there, then THAT is the exact same thing.

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  5. The two best days of boat ownership. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The day you buy it and the day you sell it.

  6. news for nerds? by andy1307 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I know theodp is big into the "the man is screwing you" themes but how did this get greenlighted?

  7. research vessel by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    Look at it, it's a research vessel, and it's ugly. Eric Schmidt started an organization for researching the oceans. Great idea.

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  8. Unless you want hot earth protester mamas... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    It's a fishing vessel tricked out inside. It emphasizes "low-key luxury".

    That kind of misses the point, huge-swinging-dick-look-at-me-hot-babes-wise, don:t you think?

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    1. Re:Unless you want hot earth protester mamas... by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      kind of misses the point, huge-swinging-dick-look-at-me-hot-babes-wise, don:t you think?

      Eric isn't much to look at, seems like a fit to me.

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  9. I like it! by scotts13 · · Score: 1

    Much more serious-looking than the over-styled fiberglass fantasies the super rich seem to typically buy. Probably a better ocean-going vessel, as well. If I had, say, $30M, I'd spend $10M of it on that.

    1. Re:I like it! by Migraineman · · Score: 1

      I was advised that "a boat is a hole in the water into which you throw money."

  10. Nice Crazy Eddie reference by netwarerip · · Score: 1

    I love it, but does anyone outside the NY metro area get it?
    Oh wait, would anyone inside the NY metro area care about anyone outside the NY metro area?
    Nevermind...

    1. Re:Nice Crazy Eddie reference by SteveFoerster · · Score: 2

      Yes, actually. Crazy Eddie's ads used to show up nationwide because many cable systems carried "superstation" WOR.

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    2. Re:Nice Crazy Eddie reference by netwarerip · · Score: 1

      Nice! I didn't know that. I used to see the ads while watching Bowling for Dollars. I still call the left side of the headpin the 'Brooklyn side' because of that show.

    3. Re:Nice Crazy Eddie reference by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      I would posit that Crazy Eddie is not a geographically restricted phenomenon.

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  11. This is how you end up bankrupt by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

    Whenever people wonder why the ultra-rich (movie stars, music stars, sports starts, CEOs, lottery winners, etc) end up going bankrupt, I point out stuff like this. There's no point in owning a boat like this unless you plan to live on it. For the number of times you'd actually be able to use the thing, it would make much more sense to just rent the boat. If you are going to own the boat, you should at least of some kind of business set up that rents it out while you're not using it. I'm all for people spending money if they have it, but this type of purchase is just completely ridiculous. You'll never in your life get $14 million worth of enjoyment out of a boat.

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    1. Re:This is how you end up bankrupt by SteveFoerster · · Score: 1

      That all depends on what your relationship with the typical $14 million is. Sooner or later it's all just Monopoly money.

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    2. Re:This is how you end up bankrupt by vidnet · · Score: 1

      You'll never in your life get $14 million worth of enjoyment out of a boat.

      There are probably half a billion people in this world that would claim that you could never in your life get $25,000 worth of enjoyment out of a new car.

      Millions would say that never in your life would you get $400 worth of enjoyment out of a PC or smart phone.

    3. Re:This is how you end up bankrupt by afidel · · Score: 1

      He's worth $6.9B, at a very conservative 4.5% interest that throws off $3.88M per DAY, I think he can get 4 days worth of enjoyment out of his yacht...

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    4. Re:This is how you end up bankrupt by afidel · · Score: 1

      Ooops, calculation error, only $851k per day, still that's only two weeks to pay off that yacht.

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    5. Re:This is how you end up bankrupt by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Do the calculation the other way. If the boat costs your $ 14 million, and you spend a total of 4 weeks a year on it, and you live for 50 years (after you bought it) that means you would have spent 4 * 50 * 7 days on the boat, or about 1400 days on the boat. Each day on the boat would have cost you $10,000. That doesn't even account for the fact that you have to pay a crew to man a boat of this size, as well as fuel, and pay for moorage (where the boat goes when you aren't using it) fees. Sure you may have the money, but you could easily charter a boat for way less than $10,000 a day. Here's one you can charter for $13,000 a week.

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    6. Re:This is how you end up bankrupt by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I know how you feel. With three people in it my canoe has about 3 inches of freeboard.

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    7. Re:This is how you end up bankrupt by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      There are probably half a billion people in this world that would claim that you could never in your life get $25,000 worth of enjoyment out of a new car. Millions would say that never in your life would you get $400 worth of enjoyment out of a PC or smart phone.

      I would say you could get $400 worth of entertainment out of a PC. Out of a smartphone? Probably not. I definitely would be one to say you couldn't get $25,000 worth of enjoyment out of a new car. Unfortunately, you pretty much have to have a car to get around in U.S. society. So there is some utilitarian value in addition to the happiness provided. Also, there is some resale value.
      With a boat of this value, and an already deflated price, there is a pretty good chance you could get some enjoyment value out of it, because you will probably sell it for about the same price, and you will only have to hope that your cost of operating it was offset by the happiness it gave you.

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  12. First World Problems by stevegee58 · · Score: 2

    (Picture of man hunched over looking despondent)
    "I've grown bored with my giant yacht. Now no one wants to buy it."

  13. First rule of wealth management: by pr0t0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it flies, floats, or fornicates; rent it.

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    1. Re:First rule of wealth management: by pr0t0 · · Score: 1

      I hadn't seen his use of the quote. It's actually from Dan Jenkins’ novel, Baja Oklahoma (1981); possibly older. No less true now than then. If it flies or floats, it's probably very expensive to purchase and maintain, and you won't use it nearly as much as you think. The same can be said for a love interest.

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  14. The two happiest days in a boat owner's life by stevegee58 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) The day he buys it.
    2) The day he sells it.

    1. Re:The two happiest days in a boat owner's life by Nemyst · · Score: 1

      So, in order to be happy, a boat owner should sell himself his boat every day?

    2. Re:The two happiest days in a boat owner's life by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

      Don't play stupid. You know you don't have to sell this crowd on the pleasures of self-abuse.

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  15. Re:Fine for me by SteveFoerster · · Score: 1

    Out of curiosity, how are those positions not mutually exclusive?

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  16. Might make sense for some Russian oil oligarch by Animats · · Score: 2

    This might make sense for some Russian oil oligarch who has to visit oil platforms in the White Sea. For anybody else, it's kind of pointless.

    At least it's more seaworthy than that boxy thing Steve Jobs had built.

  17. Cheat on your wife and your taxes by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2

    It would be a real shame if his boat caught on fire before it was sold.

  18. Holy Mixed Unit Systems Batman! by mooingyak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $20,000,000 to a mere $14,000,000

    presumably that's USD. Also all digits and no words (as in 14,000,000 rather than 14 million)

    with bid estimates ranging from EUR 3 million to EUR 10 million

    and not knowing the exchange rate off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you how far off $14M USD is from 10M EUR. And the numbers are the opposite of above, spelling out 'million' rather than using digits.

    And then there's this gem:

    which can travel an amazing 31,000 miles at 12 knots thanks to a fuel capacity of 1.3 million liters

    so, distance is in miles (imperial), speed is knots (nautical miles rather than miles) and then capacity is liters (metric)

    Pick a style, pick a system, and STICK WITH IT.

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    1. Re:Holy Mixed Unit Systems Batman! by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      You'd be surprised how many countries in the world actually use mixed units......

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    2. Re:Holy Mixed Unit Systems Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Knots would be the proper imperial measure of a boat's speed.

    3. Re:Holy Mixed Unit Systems Batman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      the exchange is around 1 EUR = 1.3 USD so they are about 1 million USD apart.

    4. Re:Holy Mixed Unit Systems Batman! by jvkjvk · · Score: 1

      Are you a human being or a computer?
      As you said: "Pick a style, pick a system, and STICK WITH IT."
      Regards

    5. Re:Holy Mixed Unit Systems Batman! by HybridST · · Score: 1

      8192 for certain values of $Dogs_Tail

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    6. Re:Holy Mixed Unit Systems Batman! by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't be at all surprised if that distance is in nautical miles. Sailors assume when you say miles and you're talking about over water, it's nautical miles.

      The combination makes perfect sense. In metric countries (i.e. almost everywhere) marine units are frequency metric except for distance and speed. Distance is measured in nautical miles because there's a real, navigation-related reason for doing so, and speed is measured in knots because it's a derived measurement dependent on distance.

    7. Re:Holy Mixed Unit Systems Batman! by anethema · · Score: 1

      Assuming the distances are given in normal miles not nautical miles, and the capacity, this would run though the 1.3 million liter tank in 93 days, giving a fuel consumption of 152.8 gallons per hour. OUCH.

      Given the average US diesel price at $4 or so, this is $611 per hour or $14668 per day of travel. Total tank value around 5.2 million bucks.

      Or to put it how most car drivers would want to see it, about 0.0903 miles per gallon. Also ouch! That would make me want a big sailboat instead! Then again if you're Google's CEO I guess this gets affordable, but even then $14k per day seems steep.

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  19. Wrong Sales Pitch by Snowdog · · Score: 1

    They're using the wrong sales pitch. It should be all about capabilities/adventure -- "the Lone Ranger can safely take you places other superyachts would not dream of going" -- not durability and "low key luxury". Yacht buyers are not usually seeking "low key" in their luxury, especially when it translates to "looks like a big fishing trawler".

  20. Does it come with fuel? by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    1.3 Million liters is 317,006 US gallons

    According to this:
    http://www.psmfc.org/efin/data/fuel.html#Data

    Marine fuel costs between 3.5$ and 4$ a gallon.

    At 4$ a gallon, it would cost almost 1.3$ Million dollars to fill the thing with fuel!

    So really considering that it would be almost 1/10 of the value, 14 Million is pretty disposable! 10 Fill ups and it would pay for itself! :)

    It would also get (317,006 / 31,000) 10 mpg! Likely pretty Eco-friendly for a ship...

    1. Re:Does it come with fuel? by Nukenbar · · Score: 1

      It doesn't get half the MPG of my Chevy.

      Try 31,000 / 317,000 or about .1 MPG.

    2. Re:Does it come with fuel? by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Heh, well not having a frame of reference, it could still be good for a ship!

  21. Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Boeing does the same thing – It sells all of its aircraft while flying in international waters – that way customers don’t have to pay sales tax.

    This is a myth. Large companies like Boeing (and Airbus with its new plant under construction in Mobile, AL) get sales tax abatements from local governments in exchange for and agreeing to continue to build aircraft in the area.

    1. Re:Myth by flimflammer · · Score: 1

      One AC is calling it a myth. The other AC has said they were actually on board such a flight. Can someone actually comment on this with some weight?

    2. Re:Myth by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      One AC is calling it a myth. The other AC has said they were actually on board such a flight. Can someone actually comment on this with some weight?

      Are you implying that the other posters did so from a weightless environment? I don't know how many people aboard the ISS troll slashdot, but i suppose the other option would be they are onboard a (boeing?) flight that is in freefall...

      Just so there is no confusion, I have weight and mass, as I am in a stationary position on/near the surface of Earth.

    3. Re:Myth by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      I would guess what you were seeing was the purchase order – Where the customer says I want X plans configured with the following trim. It is a contract but no money changes hands (maybe a down payment but that is different). 2 to 3 years later when the plan rolls off of the assembly line – that is when they fly it out over the ocean and exchange ownership for cash.

    4. Re:Myth by baegucb · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm not an AC. Seattle Times had that story a few years ago. Seems to be true, they fly off the coast for some (all?) contract signings.

  22. A Massive Yacht by chenjeru · · Score: 2
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  23. Re:Fine for me by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

    Judging from the psychopathic tone of your post, I wouldn't be surprised if you indeed earn more than $1000000 USD per year.

  24. Re:Fine for me by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

    My salary is fine and I have no envy, so until corresponding laws are in place it's no problem for me when rich people spend their money. Why shouldn't they? (And of course to some people someone with a salary slightly below $1000000 USD a year might still count as insanely rich, not sure about that.)

  25. Draft by HeyBob! · · Score: 1

    She draws over 6 meters! That alone eliminates most of the places in the world I'd want to visit by boat.

  26. Re:Fine for me by Tailhook · · Score: 1

    I have no problem with people who buy expensive yachts if they happen to be insanely rich.

    I'll bet the insanely rich are relieved to have had their spending prerogatives blessed by none other than you.

    o_O

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  27. Re:Fine for me by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    why 1000000? Why not 1500000 or 750000? Or for that matter 100000?

  28. Just put the mod points in the hat by khallow · · Score: 1

    As many people have noted, his ocean research non profit is selling some boats that look an awful lot like the sort of workhorse boats that such a non profit would be expected to have. That's not Eric Schmidt's yacht. This is Eric Schmidt's yacht. It's got a night club.

  29. Re:Fine for me by retchdog · · Score: 1

    I don't think obvious trolling pays that much.

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  30. Re:Fine for me by retchdog · · Score: 1

    To a communist, it sort of makes sense. $1M per year buys you most of life's luxuries while attenuating the maximum influence an individual can have over capital development. You can have a nice house, but you can't engage in a massive development project without forming or joining a collective.

    If you want a sort of hierarchical quasi-meritocracy like we have now, while cutting down individual enterprise, a $1M cap is intuitively reasonable.

    Of course I'm not advocating such a scheme (it would fail for any number of reasons), just saying that if this were your intention, you'd pick $1M over $100K or $1B.

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  31. Powned by CuteSteveJobs · · Score: 1

    > Eric Schmidt's Lone Ranger expedition yacht was cut from $20,000,000 to a mere $14,000,000

    "Ok Schmidt. Let's haggle. I'll give you 12! No, you can't think on it. Tell me now! Right now! 3, 2, 1..."

    "SOLD!!!! .... Ok gimme my 12 million!"

    "Who said anything about million? Muahahahahhahaha!"

  32. Six words: Butt ugly yacht, pretty tug boat by fygment · · Score: 1

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and the beholder that sees beauty in this boat is:

    a) a fisherman;
    b) a tug captain; or
    c) a researcher.

    Which of the above is likely to have 10 million plus to sink in to a vessel that would then need to be remodeled (+$$$) to either fish, do tug work, or do research?

    BTW, she started life in 1973 as an ocean-going tug and was converted (for $millions) to a yacht. No question that she is likely an awesomely tough and seaworthy vessel, much more so than any other yacht out there today.

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  33. My, what a BIG one you have! by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    Think maybe Eric Schmidt is compensating for something?

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  34. Donate to Greenpeace by akayani · · Score: 1

    Looks like a perfect donation to Green Peace. "The WiFi Worrier", with a dog called "Ann-Droid"