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New Pirate Bay Greenland Domains Suspended
The Pirate Bay switched to two Greenland-based domains Tuesday morning but it looks like the party is already over. The company responsible for .GL TLD registrations said they would not allow the domains to be put to illegal use. “Tele-Post has today decided to block access to two domains operated by file-sharing network The Pirate Bay,” the company said. According to TorrentFreak: "Queries to the .GL domain registry now confirm that both the domains in question have been officially suspended."
That just sucks!
Why is it that most of the people that I encounter seem to have been shat from the Sphincter of Mediocrity?
I've had some TPB torrents open for 48 hrs now and 4 default trackers have been down the entire time. I can't even download the hash-data to get the torrent info.
That Greenland wants to be 'liberated'? All we have here is another reason to abandon DNS, or at last find a way to make local name caching more feasible. After all, this is the internet. It's supposed to be robust, able to circumvent all blockages.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
So, is it time to come up with a new system for distributing IP addresses, other than DNS? Or a new means of configuring DNS to make queries to more than just a couple of servers, based on the hosts being queried?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Medusa is all up in your grill, bitchtard.
Greenland has a TLD?
people already used to setup 8.8.8.8 and opendns in resolv.conf so it's easy to run separate services and create separate dns table
eventually it'll be all inside tor (for the web portion), with a system like bittorrent for the data transfer, but every user possibly hosting small percentages of many files in the swarm, so instead of 200,000 people seeding (or partially) some blockbuster movie and only 100 hosting some indie freeware, everybody in the swarm will do some lifting without specific knowledge for deniability sake. it'll always be possible at some point to stop it, but start encrypting every block and spread it out.
It's about time we started investing in the decentralized name server alternatives. .P2P fizzled because they couldn't figure out a decentralized distribution mechanism. Thankfully, Namecoin is at v3.5 and only requires adding a DNS resolver to the system.
Is there anything better than clicking through Microsoft ads on Slashdot?
Its a domain name only. No traffic goes through the provider's network.
People will just move to tor or other undernets(i2p, freenet, etc,) and what they will do then
---Saying gnome 3 is better than windows 8 not so much a compliment as it is damning with light praise.
As is a DNS problem just tupe TPB's ip directly http 194.71.107.80 /81/82/83. Works like charm.
Pretty useful info here: http://proxybay.info/alternate-methods.html
Cry.
...Tuesday and Wednesday morning I got the .tl, this afternoon it was back to .se
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
ACTUALLY, heres a little bit of secret info
the police prefer NOT to shutdown these P2P networks as it allows them to easily track people who download it.
its a very valuable key for their child porn fight, pretty much says name of file people are downloading and ip address of people downloading... they then grab a search warrant and nab you...
you notice how its always the "content" industry complaining... not the government or police? why? BECAUSE IT ISNT ILLEGAL
It's not a typo if you understood the meaning!
Do you think it would be legal to run ads for drug dealers? I mean, you don't deal drugs, just list the dealers and their pagers! Some of them may just de dealing crummy homeopathetic medicine, but you know damn well most of them would be selling coke and meth. I think it still sucks the balls off a dead moose, but we have to really think about the moral implications instead of just crying "Not fair! I liked it!".
Tomorrow is another day...
I think we should just hard code it in the hosts file. My reasoning:
thepiratebay.gl is owned by thepiratebay,
Tele-Post have fallen for the manipulation of the copyright law, and prejudged this, they are in the wrong.
So simply point thepiratebay.gl at 194.71.107.15 or whatever,
Tele-post loses the ability to sell thepiratebay.gl , the pirate bay become the rightful owners of that domain (forever) .
Really they just sell names, but they act like they control what you do with the name, that's very dangerous. It would only be a matter of time before speech is the reason you lose a domain name. The prosecution of pirate bay was driven by US politics, we saw that from the leaked Wikileaks memos. That can't be permitted.
Search for any given infohash on Google and see for yourself how many indexers there are other than TPB (with many more appearing every day). Somehow I feel they won't all disappear, not until we get a World Government, or something. ;-)
Now, in case they all disappear before we get the aforementioned government, DHT can still do the job, even if it's a bit slow. It also is kinda searchable by the way, and expect to see supernode-based structures for fast in-client searching in the future (if they don't already exist, I'm not up to date on the subject).
The courts make the so-called "law" up as they go along, to suit the desired outcome. We don't live in a democracy under the rule of law, but in a tyranny under the rule of power elites.
And serve it through Tor. Darknets aren't suited for BitTorrent traffic, but they're perfect for trackers and search engines.
This is pretty much what law enforcement worries about. When darknets become the norm, it becomes a lot harder to crack down on real criminals who now use similar services. Should they cease to exist and they have to "go deeper", it will become a lot more troublesome to keep track of them.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Time for a .liberty gTLD, with a simple charter: we accept everybody unless order by court to do otherwise (ok, except cp for pr reasons). It should have multiple US, EU, China etc. servers and representatives with free roaming amongst them so censors would need to obtain an injuction in all of these jurisdictions to sieze a domain. The initial ICANN fee is 185.000 and 25.000/year after that, but I would imagine an unsiezable cool domain is worth at least a few hundred bucks a year for the right owners. So you can actually make a profit from 400 or so .liberty domains.
(I know, .free is nicer but Google or Amazon have their filthy paws on it already; the irony)
HaHa!
"I mean, you don't deal drugs, just list the dealers and their pagers! Some of them may just de dealing crummy homeopathetic medicine, but you know damn well most of them would be selling coke and meth."
Thankfully the world isn't censored according to your perception of it. Whether you think they're selling coke or not, they're entitled to a trial and evidence. But you should also realize that cocaine, opiates etc. are legally sold, even in the USA as medicines. The only difference is the valid license and valid doctors license. Valid is a relative term, a valid doctors license in USA is not valid for Mexico.
In some countries, they've decriminalized drugs, Columbia, and Portugal for example, it resulted in a drop in HIV and a drop in related crimes.
See, in your head is an absolute measure of good and bad based on what you've been told is true, but you've been misled. Thankfully, we don't rely on individuals prejudice to make these decision, and this is why the admin at .GL is wrong. No matter what his personal opinion is, its wrong for him to misuse his position to force that opinion on others.
It would be like the RIAA stopping iPods because of the copy, they tried, they failed, as a result music sales are at their highest level ever recorded. Yet they claimed it would destroy music!
Looks to me like somebody exerted pressure onto somebody else. Same as in 2006 when the US threatened Sweden with trade sanctions if they wouldn't do something about TPB.
And do you really believe that this kind of behavior by the "entertainment" industry is going to make me buy more of their crap?
Keep dreaming ...
If I buy something then I decide where and how I will use it. Not you, not the "entertainment" industry can and should decide and control what I can or can not do with the stuff I paid money for. Get it?
And after I bought the movie or music, stop treating me like a damn criminal with your stupid FBI messages about piracy.
But No - you have to control each and every aspect of your crap with drm, region code and other technology crap.
Nowadays copyright and "intellectual" property is one big mechanism to control what users can or can not do. And I will not participate in that!
Until things change, piracy will not go away.
The big trick remains to get your hands on that infohash. It's not like it's easy to guess or so.
"The stuff I had was far from addictive, really tuned for killing pain and not addictive at all. For your information, it was from the hydromorphone family"
Here's how to kick addiction to hydromorphones,
http://www.drugs.com/forum/featured-drugs/hydromorphone-dilaudid-addiction-35799.html
Coke is psychologically addictive, not chemically, users take it for the effect, not a chemical dependency. You magically separate these into two groups:
1. Medicines, magic non addictive, good, legal, and totally different from
2. Drugs, addictive, evil, illegal,
The distinction really isn't there. All of item 1) is also in the set of item 2. Those opiates for pain killing are as addictive as opiates for mellowing out, amphetamines are speed or E, or Ritalin, or the drugs used to treat obesity. The primary effect of the drug heroin, the chemical effect not the crime, or the costs, or the withdrawal symptoms, the actual measurable effect is 'constipation'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/emotional_health/addictions/heroin.shtml
"I fail to see how you really responded to my marketing moral analogy"
And here we are, *you* don't understand why the world doesn't set rules based on what *you* think is right and wrong, and when challenged on your black and white, right and wrong (and demonstrably false) views, *you* quote *yourself* as evidence.
The registrar is wrong to apply his arbitrary and incorrect judgement to his job. His job is to issue the domains, not decide moral arguments.
Mali is giving addresses away for free. thepiratebay.ml
Or better still. Go and make a deal with the republic of Adygea. thepirateb.ay
Are you a Greenland law specialist then, that you declare this legal? It may be legal in your jurisdiction, but a Dutch court has made most ISPs block access to TPB because it was "illegal". It just may be illegal in Greenland too, what would you know?
I was promised a flying car. Where is my flying car?
Unless they are going to put Microsoft (Search) Google, Yahoo, et al in jail.
Trivial.
1.Websearch for any infohash you own.
2.Get a bunch of sites
3.Go to any of these sites and look there for your new stuff infohashes
4.???
5.Profit!
It is call the "Pirate" Bay lol
You can download a table of infohashes for every single torrent on TPB in one file, it's about 90MB. That could be shared around on flash drives.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
This, this, a thousand times THIS!
I just opened my new Soundtrack I bought recently (the first in awhile). Pop it in and get greeted with a bunch of .cda crap. Try VLC to encode to MP3, but NO, that doesn't work. After spending 20 minutes poking around to figure out how to use MY music that I PURCHASED, I say screw it. Hop on TPB and I've got what I own in the format I want after 2 minutes. There's something wrong with that picture.
All they did was piss off a legitimate customer and remind him why he can listen to the 15 GB of music he has.
I was hoping for Pirate Bagels, Pirate Cream cheese or Pirate lox.They are really being denied a great merchandising opportunity!
Maybe, and only due to coercion and bribery. The reason this company is going against TBP is because they are either getting payed to, or coerced to (they will loose business, be fined, sanctioned, harassed, etc.)
To make it clear I respect copyright but not DRM or EULA and I expect it to expire and after a short while (not a whole damn lifetime for a few hours of "work", or even months). I also expect the public domain to be vigorously defended by the people who administrate copyright.
And just because some executives "invest" an arbitrary amount of money into a movie and then do Hollywood accounting, does not give them the right to a monopoly or some kind of criminal legal framework in their favor. Movies did not even exist when the framework for copyright was put in place. (maybe it should be adapted to them in a limited fashion) but it wasn't even a consideration at the time.
It will just be made illegal to use "darker" nets then the plain web for people without licenses or permits to do so. This is the end game political situation of the web IMHO.
Of course there will always be the one or two outliers who are always one step ahead. But the idea of "law enforcement" is to keep those outliers a small non-mainstream group and focused on criminal activity (from the perspective of the power elite). This way most people will not become disruptive for whatever reason. And "most people" will feel safe and simply "not know" what is really out there. It also keeps our artificial economy in check and keep regulated (can't have people making their own chairs, or thinking its a better route to go now, its ok if 1% do though).
There is simply no good way to enforce it. Even with deep packet inspection, how do you want to discriminate between "good" encrypted traffic and "bad" one. Outlaw encryption? Banks would cry bloody murder because that would be the death spell for internet banking, along with pretty much every kind of online business.
Even if you outlaw it, there are ALWAYS ways around that. Show me one proxy with deep packet inspection and a rigid dropping strategy and I show you how to circumvent it. If everything else fails, I'll fake HTTP traffic and transmit "pictures".
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
It can be outlawed, because if your not communicating with a bank and instead some random peer in another country, they wont bother inspecting your packets, they'll fine you and throw you in the U.S. Prison system. Probably put you to work sorting through network traffic ;p This is were trusted computing starts becoming useful for the gov, like those chips that only run authorized software. But what your explaining is the locks keep honest people out thing.
But the really sneaky legitimate geeks will still be a step ahead of that level of scrutiny. They'll either have a server in a back room at a bank and they'll carefully monitor and shape the traffic to look like "legal" transactions with a institution authorized to use encryption. The other 80% of the people without too much time on their hands will be up shit creek without a paddle and probably would need to "go to a geek (fixer)" for their "sekret" communications at that point. And by gods law enforcement would love that weak spot in the chain, it would really legitimize someones crusade against hackers.
P.S. The above comments by me are in the realm of sci-fi novelization trying to predict the political and legal situation of 40+ years on from now.
To clarify, you won't even be able to run a proxy in this end game situation without having to register it with the government and have it open to all kinds of scrutiny. This limits the "everyone and their brother" running a proxy situation. The ISPs could be forced to drop any packets that aren't signed by the software or hardware that, the government authors.
I don't believe this comment was set at -1: as Flamebait. Clearly someone who is quite bias about piracy. But it doesn't change my point of view. And it doesn't even consider whether I'm for or against piracy to begin with. :)
I never said I want any control What I said is that no ISP wants to be place in a legal position where they allow illegal downloads through their networks.
I sort of agree, but tor is not growing fast enough and gets compromised from time to time. It would need to be rolled out on the scale of a firefox level web browser app that comes installed by default in the O.S. to be big enough to marginally have a chance at meeting the demands of most innocuous browsing and sharing.
An interesting idea. Kinda hard to pull off globally, but still horrifyingly fascinating nonetheless.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I'd go for .pn personally. From the Pitcairn Islands, the home of the descendants of the Mutineers of the Bounty. They may even appreciate the "Pirate Bay" name!
http://www.government.pn/PnRegistry/PnRegistry.htm
Yeah, the other affect of locking down your own internet ISPs like this is you drive people to 3rd party solutions, satellites etc. But then the game changes from which protocols are banned to, if your caught with a transceiver thats not audited your busted (think non state approved cell phone in NK). I do have an overactive imagination ;p
Then again someones already at least beat me to it, thinking of games like Mirrors Edge. The problem with future predictions and thoughts though, is its bad enough trying to predict what will happen tomorrow. We could end up with a very heterogeneous hodge podge of interconnected technologies with some nets being freer then others and lots of personal choice and freedom as to which to use and participate in. But thats not how things seem to be trending IMO.
You wrote:
PIrate Bay's days will soon end.
And I simply told you why the days of piracy are not over.
I never said I want any control
Yes - you do. You're saying that ISP should not allow illegal downloads. The only way to do that is deep packet inspection. As a result you (the ISP) are controlling what users can do or can not do.
And just to end this discussion right here and now - It's all about control. Media companies are losing control. That's what this is all about. The Internet was built as de-centralized network with nobody in control. And govts and hollywood are not able to deal with that. They are desperately trying to hold on to their "power".
Content creation used to be in the hands of a few. Now with the Internet everybody can create content. And media companies and govts are afraid of that.
Which is one reason why I strongly oppose tablets - tablets are consume-only devices. We, the people, need to be very careful and aware, that we don't lose the ability to create content with powerful desktop computers running proper desktop operating systems.
Im gosgog:
If you buy recorded Music, Movies or whatever..you paid the copyright fee. Now you own it, anything else is BULLSHIT. SO if you're willing to allow others the FREE USE of what you own...it ain't PIRACY. ONCE AGAIN GOV'TS, with their IDIOT POLITICIANS are making rules that they have no business doing....and guess what...the vast majority of 'em HAVE A LAW DEGREE...KILL 'EM!!
Why not moving to TOR / ONION addresses?. You could promote TOR / Onion, and you could deploy an ONION proxy for casual users not interested in installing TOR themselves.