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High-Speed Camera Grabs First 3D Shots of Untouched Snowflakes

sciencehabit writes "Researchers have developed a camera system that shoots untouched flakes 'in the wild' as they fall from the sky. By grabbing a series of images of the tumbling crystals—its exposure time is one-40,000th of a second, compared with about one-200th in normal photography—the camera is revealing the true shape diversity of snowflakes. Besides providing beautiful real-time 3D snowflake photographs from a ski resort in Utah, the goal is to improve weather modeling. More accurate data on how fast snowflakes fall and how their shapes interacts with radar will improve predictions of when and where storms will dump snow and how much."

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  1. Did the Penny Drop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    So who else found the penny?

    1. Re:Did the Penny Drop! by al0ha · · Score: 2

      I figure they were flipping a coin to decide who has to stay outside and man the camera.

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    2. Re:Did the Penny Drop! by KitFox · · Score: 4, Informative

      Previous Story: "Show me the money"

      This story: "Here's the snowflakes! And the money."

      Just in case this page gets updated and the penny gets bumped off, hopefully the direct link to the beautiful high-speed photo of a falling penny will persist in the records and the annals of time forever.

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    3. Re:Did the Penny Drop! by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's certainly an unusual shape for a snowflake untouched by human hands.

      And just the other day I was looking a photograph of snowflakes caught on felt, which left them unaffected.

      Sometimes you don't need uber technology, but the creativity of a person on a very limited budget.

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  2. Meanwhile, on the internet by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...Moments later, the pictures were uploaded to Instagram with a vintage filter, and ceased being cool.

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    1. Re:Meanwhile, on the internet by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Funny

      And then Mark Zuckerberg formed a new polical lobby for Snow Flake Preservation.

      Zynga then promptly released a game where you can buy virtual snowflakes to drop on your farms, but was sued by Apple for patent infringment over it's slide-to-drop snowflake technology. Microsoft released a snowflake player called 'Snune', but was widely panned by critics as being inferior to all other offers. A few weeks later, it quietly disappeared. Regular slashdot readers blamed stagnancy in cloud technologies for the lack of high performance snow, and girlintraining continued to snark the crap out of everything she comes across...

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    2. Re:Meanwhile, on the internet by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2

      "...Moments later, the pictures were uploaded to Instagram with a vintage filter, and ceased being cool."

      Actually, I don't think you need an instagram filter to make these pictures uncool.

      I've seen lots of crystalline snowflakes under magnifiers and microscopes before, and they look nothing like these pictures. The ones I saw had nice sharply-defined edges, but these -- including the nice symmetrical ones -- are noticeably fuzzy around the edges.

      No doubt, this is an improvement allowing us to get a look at lots more kinds of snowflakes. It's just that they're actually pretty shitty pictures.

  3. why not post the text that comes with the pics! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    rather than the bs from sciencemag?

    here it is:

    "MASC Showcase: Snowflakes in Freefall

    For more information about this University of Utah and National Science Foundation project please visit the Snowflake Stereography and Fallspeed home page or email Tim Garrett.

    This is a gallery of snowflake images captured in freefall at Alta Ski Area using the University of Utah MASC (Multi Angle Snowflake Camera). When it is snowing, images of snowflakes captured live in free fall can be found at Alta's Snowflake Showcase.

    Images are taken at f/5.6 with an exposure of up to 1/40,000th of a second using 1.2MP and 5MP industrial cameras with lenses ranging from 12 mm to 35 mm. The image resolution ranges from 9 micrometers to 40 micrometers.

    Click on any image to see it in full resolution and to play a slide show.

    Donations to continue the Snowflake Showcase at Alta Ski Area are welcomed.

  4. Re:Nice pictures by Dahamma · · Score: 4, Informative

    Analogy fail. You must live somewhere warm... hate to break it to you, but snowflakes are real ;)

  5. Don Komarechka by Flammon · · Score: 3, Interesting
  6. why are snowflakes symmetric? by The_Rook · · Score: 5, Interesting

    what i've always wanted to know was why are snowflakes symmetric?

    sure, a hexagonal crystal has bilateral symmetry etc. but snowflakes form long, complex arms with what can best be described as filigree. and yet, the filigree on opposite sides of the snowflake are also symmetric - that's shown even in these photos.

    so what i want to know is how does crystal faces on opposite sides of the snowflake 'know' to grow symmetric filligree? what mechanism is there that allows one crystal face of a snowflake to 'know' what the other crystal faces are doing and so grow identical structures?

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    1. Re:why are snowflakes symmetric? by exploder · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think it's because (snowflakes being quite small) all sides experience nearly identical conditions of temperature, humidity, whatever-else-affects-crystal-growth at nearly identical times.

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    2. Re:why are snowflakes symmetric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think it's because (snowflakes being quite small) all sides experience nearly identical conditions of temperature, humidity, whatever-else-affects-crystal-growth at nearly identical times.

      I'm a cloud physicist and you, sir, are correct, identifying not only the reason for the symmetry (uniform conditions across the crystal over relevant time scales) but also the two controlling factors of temperature and humidity (well, humidity above saturation). Well done. Let me buy you a virtual beer.

      The diversity of shapes is what's really cool. As far as I know (and this isn't my area) we have a phenomonology for habit (we know what shapes are most likely at a given temperature and humidity, for example) but we don't have a good theory to explain why that's so.

    3. Re:why are snowflakes symmetric? by pspahn · · Score: 2

      Just to add to this, there is a cave in Colorado that I found last summer (it is known of, but it sees very little visitors... maybe a dozen a year) that apparently develops very rare ice crystal shapes in the winter near the entrance. What I read is that it is one of only a handful of places in the world where this is known to occur.

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    4. Re:why are snowflakes symmetric? by pspahn · · Score: 3

      Can't remember the name specifically, it is almost exactly at 39.518712, -106.629701

      There are some yurts just to the west about a 1/4 mile. I suggest staying there (Hidden Treasure Yurts) and reading the great binder full of information on local caves. I read the article about this specific cave, and it's quite fascinating.

      If caving in Colorado, please educate yourself on White Nose Syndrome. It is not prevalent here, and people would like to keep it that way.

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    5. Re:why are snowflakes symmetric? by pspahn · · Score: 2

      Ah, Devil's Den cave. Note, you'll probably not find much info online about it... there is a popular cave in Arkansas with the same name.

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  7. Bad summary by TrumpetPower! · · Score: 5, Informative

    First, 1/200s is a very common shutter speed, yes, but most cameras can shoot at at least 1/2000s and most high-end cameras can shoot at 1/8000s...assuming, of course, you have enough light.

    Most high-speed stills photography is actually done with a slow shutter speed; perhaps even a shutter left open for a couple seconds. Motion is stopped by the short duration of the flash burst. And with, for example, a Canon 580 EX II flash, you can get a 1/35,000s flash duration. Granted, this will be at minimum power...but they're operating at macro distances, where you can put the flash head almost on top of your subject and still overpower the subject with light.

    Don't get me worng; this team is doing some nifty stuff. But it's also something that most professional photographers could easily replicate with the equipment they already have -- and that anybody who specializes in macro photography will probably already plan on playing around with next winter after reading this article.

    What the team is doing that's interesting isn't the photography. It's the 3D reconstruction and subsequent analysis and modeling. Making it seem that it's about the photography, which is the easy and inconsequential part, really detracts from the good stuff.

    Cheers,

    b&

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    1. Re:Bad summary by rgmoore · · Score: 4, Informative

      The trick is that the shutter isn't doing the work; the flash is. It's possible to make very short flash pulses; I think you can make them even shorter than the 1/50,000 second mentioned in the article. As long as most of the light for the photograph comes from the brief but intense flash, the ability to freeze action depends on the flash speed rather than the shutter speed. You actually need to make sure the shutter speed is slow enough that the shutter is guaranteed to be all the way open when the flash triggers (X-sync speed or slower), or only the area behind the open part of the shutter will be exposed. Controlling things using the flash also guarantees that the multiple cameras used for 3D photography will all be taking their pictures at exactly the same instant.

      Also note that the limitation you're talking about only applies to focal plane shutters (i.e. those right in front of the film or sensor). It's also possible to use a central shutter that's located right next to the iris of the lens. Central shutters open and close like the lens aperture, but block the lens completely when they're closed. Like the lens aperture, they block light to all parts of the focal plane more or less equally as they open and close, so they don't induce any of the motion effects that focal plane shutters do. Central shutters have their own problems- it's hard to make them work for very short shutter speeds, and they have limited efficiency when you use them that way because they're only completely open for part of the time- but they do eliminate focal plane shutter artifacts and allow you to flash sync at any available shutter speed.

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  8. Still facsinating by Ogive17 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm 33 and on occasion I'll see one of those perfectly shaped snowflakes land on my coat, after all these years I still think they are cool.

    I just wish its trillions of friends would get off my lawn (and driveway).

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  9. FRACTALS !!! by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wow !

    The 3D structures of the snowflakes are fractals !!

    Hopefully someone can come up with a fractal software that can let users experimenting with various 3D snowflake shapes

    And with the availability of 3D printing, who knows what kind of new art forms this will bring forth ??

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    1. Re:FRACTALS !!! by Internal+Modem · · Score: 2

      The photos are only 2D -- in some cases as low resolution as 1.2 megapixels. It is only the actual snowflakes themselves that are 3D as opposed to the standard 2D-like images of snowflakes we normally see. To print actual snowflakes in 3D will require different equipment and another method of photography.

      As far as #D fractal software, there doesn't seem to be a shortage.

  10. Shortly after posting the results... by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2

    Someone cried out "Oh I have wasted my life...!"

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