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Google, Apple Lead Massive List of Companies Supporting CISPA

redletterdave writes "TechNet, the trade association representing and led by dozens of prominent technology companies including Google, Apple and Facebook, has formally come out in support of CISPA, sending a letter to the U.S. House of Representatives. The letter said: 'We commend the committee for providing liability protections to companies participating in voluntary information-sharing and applaud the committee's efforts to work with a wide range of stakeholders to address issues such as strengthening privacy protections. As the legislative process unfolds, we look forward to continuing the dialogue with you and your colleagues on further privacy protections, including discussions on the role of a civilian interface for information sharing.'" The White House won't support the bill in its current form, but they plan to work with legislators on a compromise. The current text of the bill is available online.

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  1. Google hates privacy by drinkydoh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm not surprised to see Google as the main supporter of CISPA. They have a long track record of privacy violations and lessening privacy of internet users. They are, like we all know, worlds largest advertising house.

    Google has also been heavily pushing it's real-name policy. They are trying to convert YouTube users to using their real names instead of nicknames. They want to (but don't succeed) have people use their social network Google+, and they want to link everyones searches directly to the real names. Hell, have you noticed how Google's advertisements on other sites like Slashdot change based on what you've been recently searching on Google.

    The Internet as we know it is coming to an end. Everyone sees this but doesn't act. They just let Google steal all of their privacy. Google and CISPA must be stopped and it's your only time to act!

    1. Re:Google hates privacy by White+Flame · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hell, have you noticed how Google's advertisements on other sites like Slashdot change based on what you've been recently searching on Google.

      The least you could do (besides an adblocker, assuming you haven't already got one and are whitelisting slashdot) is disable all cookies, enabling exceptions for sites you want. It's scary seeing how many cookies from how many different sites a single page tries to set nowadays. By disabling all by default, I end up enabling only the one(s) required for login, and it leaves all the other tracking cookies blocked. Sure, there are non-cookie ways to track, especially by IP and browser version/feature fingerprint, but Google no longer remembers my searches with just blocked cookies.

    2. Re:Google hates privacy by Bigby · · Score: 5, Informative

      The GP is an ad itself. No need to reply to it. Notice the new ID and the posting at the same time article was posted.

    3. Re:Google hates privacy by Synerg1y · · Score: 5, Insightful

      have you thought for one second... to stop using google?

      It's not like there's not other mail providers, search providers, and little applets floating around the web that have nothing to do with google. If google's behavior is becoming unacceptable STOP USING IT.

      How you people continue to knock a service that is completely free for you to use is beyond me.

      Ignorance check: did you know there were major search engines that aren't US based and thus are not subject to CISPA?

    4. Re:Google hates privacy by Synerg1y · · Score: 4, Informative

      Took me under 5 seconds to put "firefox prevent google tracking" into my google toolbar and that brings up:

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/remove-google-tracking/

      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/gdc/

      and a hella comprehensive guide for thick tin-foil hats:

      http://www.leavegooglebehind.com/how-tos/how-to-build-a-firefox-privacy-arsenal/

    5. Re:Google hates privacy by misanthropic.mofo · · Score: 4, Informative

      have you thought for one second... to stop using google?

      Exactly, DuckDuckGo FTW.

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      --There are two kinds of people in this world. I don't like either of them.
    6. Re:Google hates privacy by djdanlib · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yep. So I guess we have to go back to pre-Internet life according to that guy. I'll stop arranging surprise birthday and Christmas gifts for the people I care about, then. And I'll stop booking tables for my dates online. I'll also wait to consult my doctor for things that look like minor medical concerns, and stick to the offline first-aid book when I can't remember how to treat some minor injury. I'll also just use the old-fashioned phone book to look up each store I want to comparison-shop and call them one by one.

      My point is in agreement with yours... Some things just aren't other peoples' business, but that doesn't make those things nefarious.

    7. Re:Google hates privacy by Cederic · · Score: 4, Informative

      Running and hosting a website is not free, but IT IS NOT EXPENSIVE. It is just electrons, no trees cut down to make paper, no postage, no fat lazy postmen delivering magazines, no delivery trucks burning gas and needing repairs, no distribution centers, etc.

      I agree. I mean, it costs Google a mere $4bn a quarter to run and host their sites. If you only want reliable hosting with failover, uptime, bandwidth and performance SLAs and security patching then the costs are utterly trivial.

  2. "Oh noes! The people keep voting it down!" by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I guess we just have to try EVEN HARDER!"

    Seriously, who are these people fooling? ..Then again, people get awfully tired of fighting the same battle over and over again, and often eventually just concede. We need to propose legislation outright forbidding this kind of shit. It's really the only way, else they will just keep shuffling commas and semicolons around in the text, and resubmitting.

    1. Re:"Oh noes! The people keep voting it down!" by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is how laws are done today. You think a law gets voted down and that's it? Think again. Whenever you see some company not getting its way, be it due to public outcry or be it because even politicians could see that it's not a good idea, rest assured that they won't drop it. It will come back again. In some other form, maybe with less public exposure and much more hushed up, but it WILL COME BACK.

      Companies don't back down when it comes to getting their laws approved. They will keep pushing more money into Capitol Hill hos 'til they have enough to actually get it passed.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    2. Re:"Oh noes! The people keep voting it down!" by RazorSharp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The assault weapons ban only lasted ten years. So much for only having to win once. Also, calling your political opponents 'bad guys' is childish. They may be wrong, but people don't want to ban guns out of malice. Hell, for the longest time I wanted handguns and assault rifles banned because they really are terrible things. I didn't change my mind because I stopped seeing them as terrible, I changed my mind because I realized that banning such things is impractical in this country. Too many already exist and the technology is too basic to stop enthusiasts. My contempt for tools designed exclusively to kill human beings is still as fervent as ever despite the fact that I no longer support weapon bans.

      The way I look at it, owning an assault rifle is like owning a guillotine. Sure, I could use it on an animal, but that wouldn't really be practical as there are many other better tools for the job. It only does one thing well: kill people.

      I sympathize with those who want to ban such things, it's pretty easy considering I once felt the same way, but I recognize legislation as a poor solution. I think the main appeal of such weapons to most people is their taboo nature. We'd probably have a lot less handguns and assault rifles in this country is no one was trying to ban them. It's like when you tell a child that something is bad. They immediately want it.

      Bad laws rarely die unless those pushing them finally give up.

      This doesn't seem very logical to me. My guess is that most laws that are proposed in the legislature 1) are bad 2) die quickly 3) die without those pushing them giving up. What ever made you say such a thing?

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      "From the depths of my skeptical and rationalist soul, I ask the Lord to protect me from California touchie-feeliedom."
  3. The anal-probe industry likes it by Animats · · Score: 4, Funny

    All the companies named are from the anal-probe sector of the tech industry.

  4. Frustrating by moeinvt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the only reason we were able to beat SOPA/PIPA was that there were some big corporations on our side during that fight. Obviously they've now re-written the bill so that all of the big corporations will profit and only the little people will suffer.

    I find this really frustrating. We're forced to fund the federal government under threat of violence and they turn around and use the fruits of our labor to make our lives miserable. They can afford to be relentless in their efforts because it costs them nothing. We defeat SOPA/PIPA (using our free time and after tax income), they just turn around and re-introduce even more sinister legislation in its place.

    If you have the slightest wish to give government more wealth and more power e.g. to ban guns, to regulate free speech, to provide healthcare or to fix "climate change" you're out of your bloody mind! Washington DC is literally INCAPABLE of passing ANY legislation which benefits the average working American. Their stated intentions are meaningless. The substance of any new law will be to your detriment no matter what. Just say "No" to everything they propose.

  5. Have any of you even read the text of the bill? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It really seems to me that most of the commenters have no idea what the bill even states. It's like reading the posts of a bunch of fundamental right wing conservatives. A whole bunch of statements which have little to no basis in reality.

    Seriously, what power do you think this bill gives the government? If it's the "They can read all my email whenever they want now and are going to see all my HORRIABLE SPAM PORN / Anti-Governemt rantings" power you would be oh so very very wrong.

    Sec 1104 (b) (3) (A) shall only be shared in accordance with any restrictions placed on the sharing of such information by the protected entity or self-protected entity authorizing such sharing, including appropriate anonymization or minimization of such information;

    Can you people read? Read that. Know what that says? It says that all information shared with the government must be cleaned to not include information on U.S. Persons. Basically if they DO for some reason send your email they have to remove everything that could possibly identify you.

    To:immahurpdedur@gmail.com
    From:icanhazabrainplox@hotmail.com
    Dear Frank,

    Don't you just hate Obama?

    -
    John

    Becomes

    To:------------------
    From:--------------

    Dear -------,

    Don't you just hate Obama?

    -
    ------------------

    OH NOOOO They are gonna catch me now for sure! But in reality they likely can't even send that.

  6. Apparently I've read it better than you have by Hizonner · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It says they CAN clean it if they WANT to... to whatever degree the sharing entity considers to be "appropriate". So if some "protected entity" or "self-protected entity" hands something over, it can restrict downstream sharing. It can require whatever anonymization it wants, including no anonymization if it decides that no anonymization at all is "appropriate".

    Who's a "protected entity"? Hint: not you. "an entity, other than an individual, that contracts with a cybersecurity provider for goods or services to be used for cybersecurity purposes.".

    Excuse me if I don't believe that every "protected entity" or "self-protected entity" has my best interests at heart.