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Explosions at the Boston Marathon
Reports are coming in that the headquarters at the Boston Marathon have been locked down after two explosions were reported near the finish line. According to reports "dozens of people have been seriously injured." CNN has live coverage. Google has a Person Finder up for Boston.
Update: The Boston Police Dept. says 2 people have died and 23 are injured. News conference scheduled for 4:30 ET.
Update: The Boston Police Dept. says 2 people have died and 23 are injured. News conference scheduled for 4:30 ET.
You've been living in a soft martial law for years now. It won't become hard martial law until the can take the guns from all the civilians.
Then you'll really be in trouble.
Don't speak too soon, this could be a right-wing militia group for all we know.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
there were no drones in the 80's and 90's and the same people went from hijacking planes and cruise liners to blowing up sky scrapers in NYC and US Navy destroyers
A sign of the new normal for the emerging country of Third World America?
OT prediction:
My OT predictions:
1. Fox News is probably already in the process of finding a way to blame Barack Obama.
2. MSNBC is probably already in the process of finding a way to blame Republicans.
3. No one in power will blame the organization that actually was directly responsible for preventing this and similar attacks, the FBI's anti-terrorism unit.
I am officially gone from
are you seriously comparing targeting civilians to military drone attacks?
They can be the same. It's the entire crux of the argument against drone strikes, in fact, and is the reason why folks in other countries (our "allies," no less) are so up in arms about it.
nuked into oblivion...Iran wouldn't do that either for similar reasons.
That makes no sense to me. There is almost nothing that Iran could do that would invite a nuclear strike from the U.S. Why? Because the people or Iran, by and large, are not at all culpable in what the crazy government wants to do. They are like a few million hostages being held in a bank; we can't just burn down the bank the hostages are being held in to get rid of handful of crazy people attacking us.
Iran knows they aren't going to get nuked, and furthermore WANTS to be attacked because they want to start a war period, to justify further actions on their part that cannot even in the middle east be justified in a first strike.
I don't think Iran did this mind you; I'm just saying there are very few groups you could at all rule out because of retaliation.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Actually, I was reading about it at google news just a few minutes ago, and slashdot tends to be a bit late to the party in reporting stories like this.. . . So /. shouldn't bother.
I think something slipped past you. Strictly speaking, Slashdot isn't a news reporting site, it is a news aggregator and discussion site (although that generally works better if the news isn't stale as in weeks or years old). That is the point of the forums with each story, and posting - to discuss the news. Or are your posts completely random? (Topic? I don't need no stinking topic! I want to discuss chocolate sundaes! (That should really be hot grits.))
OT prediction: If it turns out that the act was committed by an American nutjob, as with the Oklahoma City bombing the media and political system will quickly forget about it. If it turns out that it was done by a "furriner", we'll hear lots about those awful "terrists" for some time...
Strike two. Oklahoma City is constantly dragged out in discussions and policy debates, especially to denegrate the political right and Christians despite the fact that McVeigh was an atheist on his own tangent. On the other hand, the Obama administration has been actively suppressing use of phrases by the government such as "War on Terror" and Jihadi.
By the way - it would be great if you would just spell foreigner as foreigner. That sort of feigned misspelling makes for tedious commentary.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Holy shit! You're right! If they take away my rusty shotgun and rustier rifle, then I'm just shit outta luck trying to defend my family from tanks and drones with a slingshot and softball bat.
Kinda funny they way gun control supporters paint this: If its about resisting tyranny, then our guns are "rusty" pieces of crap barely more capable then a BB gun (and of course if used in self defense the attacker will just swat away your puny gun and use it against you).
When they argue to take them away though, then they're "weapons of war" that don't belong on our streets for fear of the mass destruction they're capable of.
So basically, they're so weak and ineffectual that you shouldn't care if they're taken away, but they need to be taken away because of how dangerous they are :S.
"People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who do."-Mark Twain
A Saudi National
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
This is also doesn't feel like Jihadists...
Indeed. Jihadists would have put the second device in the rubble of the first, made the delay closer to 5 minutes than 20 seconds, and would have made it much larger. This is clearly by someone too concerned with his own safety to do it "right". Thank heavens.
You're describing the u.s funded ira
The AP (Associated Press) is reporting that the Boston Police have turned off the cell phone system and infrastructure to prevent the use of cell phone signals from triggering another bomb. Something else to consider when the only means of communication you have left are cell phones and no land lines.
It's call the Shock Doctrine.
There's even a book about it (called the Shock Doctrine):
http://www.amazon.com/The-Shock-Doctrine-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/0312427999
From the Editorial Review:
Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine advances a truly unnerving argument: historically, while people were reeling from natural disasters, wars and economic upheavals, savvy politicians and industry leaders nefariously implemented policies that would never have passed during less muddled times. As Klein demonstrates, this reprehensible game of bait-and-switch isn't just some relic from the bad old days. It's alive and well in contemporary society, and coming soon to a disaster area near you.
This is why we have the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act.
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In my attempt to take the day off from coding my latest ULTIMATE Android app, I noticed the BULL SH*T on television.
Now, not being the totally cynical human being I am, keep in mind I got this scenario in my head because of all the history books I read about governments. Not only from reading, but in my case I have found people to be treacherous in general. So I might have a paranoid bias.
No matter, because even if I am paranoid, the times we live in make people like me VERY valuable. People like me, don't miss a THING that goes on now days.
But, let me guess what is going to happen after the BULL SH*T dust settles:
1) Our government will announce they have NO IDEA how this happened, and that they will "GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS". Meanwhile, like all of the NO IDEA events in the past decade they will parade families on TV in between IDOL spots declaring how unsafe the streets are in BOSTON and how could the government let them kill my baby. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Government SAVE ME!!!!! ...meanwhile:
RESULT: TSA will get the go ahead to put troops on the streets in the future as more events that the government claims they have NO IDEA about happen or some other BULL SH*T.
2) A couple of weeks later, it will be discovered that this a domestic terrorist because as we all know who are tracking the world events, the crap is starting to finally hit the fan in the derivatives markets, and the banks are desperate for cash from all of their criminal activities.
No doubt they will get some patsy to parade on TV like the BATMAN guy or something else....anything really and announce that well, yet another piece of that, dirty, outdated piece of paper the constitution ... needs to go!!!
Of course, it is to keep everyone safe!!
So, after looting Europe, surprise here they come for America. So to start things off, we need a couple of bombs to go off.
Oh, and as more bombs go off, they will claim: "Oh we the BANKS have bad news. It looks like these domestic terrorists have created a PANIC in the markets and your accounts will have to be frozen".
Darn, those terrorists:
RESULT: Some sort of financial liquidity event for the crony bankers, and the government who protects them. Meanwhile you will be lucky if you get your money out of the bank or you are WIPED OUT.
I could be wrong of course...but I doubt it.
-Hack
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
Your statement is a mistake. Given the person being held is a young Saudi man (as in a jihadi) we can give a probable guess as what his motivations are. These are the same motivations that jihadis have been using for 1400 years - long before drones, or the US, or (modern) Israel. The motivation can be summed up in the Qur'an, particularly Sura 9:5 "The Verse of the Sword" and associated commentaries:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/swordverse.htm
Please also note Sura 9:29
Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
The non-Muslim world may not have been at war with Islam, but Islam has *always* felt it was at war with the non-Muslim world (as stated in their teachings if you ever care to read them). Islamic apologists will lie to you about this (using one of the disgusting doctrines that Islam uses to permit lying: taqiyya, kitman, muruna. and tawriya). But the truth is the vast majority of Muslims agree with the goal of Islam, to bring Islam to the whole world (through any means necessary - including jihad).
So stop putting the blame on the victim. It is disgusting and immoral. When the "Caliphate" is re-established it will get much much worse. Nothing the US can do can prevent the coming fight to the death between the evil political ideology called Islam and those who seek to defend Human Rights as we know them, Liberty and Free World. Choose your sides!
You realize that if we were to effectively fight jihadist terrorism, Dearborn, MI, as well as various other locations in the US, would have to be depopulated with most of the inhabitants shot, deported, or jailed, right?
(There is Sharia by majority rule in Dearborn.)
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying it will never happen, short of a no-punches-pulled Balkanized civil war.
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Actually, I do have a multi-pronged approach consisting of many items. Unfortunately I still think it is necessary for some kinetic action to be taken against those who would never listen (eg. Al Qaeda). Now it turns out that I actually believe that many Muslims are in fact moral and very law abiding. It just turns out that the set of morals and laws that they obey are barbaric 7th Century edicts that doctrine prohibits from evolving or even discussing. The ideological battle to be waged is *far far* more important than the kinetic battle, but both are necessary for victory. At the moment the US is losing, badly, because it has deluded itself into believing political Islam is the same as various personal faiths - yet it most clearly is not.
For the specifics of my suggestions I hope you will consider my post I put here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3651105&cid=43459335
Please note that I neither call for deportation nor extermination nor oppression of Muslims (a courtesy that Islamists are unwilling to extend to Kosovar Serbs, Iraqi Assyrians, Kurds scattered around the place, Armenians, Egyptian Copts, Indonesian Christians or Southern Sudanese). Let readers judge whether I am trying to be reasonable or not, while still opposing the evil totalitarianism of Islam and promoting the defense of Englightenment Liberties for all.
If you are interested in various aspects of Islamic Law (eg, how the OIC are using the UN to promote evil Sharia worldwide) or how jihad is not in any way an "extremist" Muslim doctrine (as the political left, leftist media, and Islamic apologists continually lie to you about) in the sense that it is, in fact, a *core and mainstream* Islamic doctrine. When an Islamicist says they "condemn terrorism" it never means they condemn jihad. They are condemning "illegal warfare", which in Sharia means those who oppose jihad. This is an example of the Islamic doctrine of lying called "tawriya". Citations for your enlightenment and pleasure:
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsArto3UVT0 "Stephen Coughlin, Part 2: Understanding the War on Terror Through Islamic Law"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkAZUvQAzkc "Stephen Coughlin, Part 5: The Role of the OIC in Enforcing Islamic Law "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t98WRrOPj2s "Stephen Coughlin, Part 3: Abrogation & the 'Milestones' Process"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y " Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner"
So, fellow Slashdotters, please let me cue you in. When the inevitable TV appearances have Muslims condemning terrorism there will be some genuine condolences (those that are good human beings, but bad Muslims) but more than a few will be practicing "tawriya" - saying something with the knowledge that you will interpret it in one way, while they view it as the complete opposite due to the different interpretation under (evil !!!) Sharia.