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Dell Signs Agreement To Cap Icahn's Share Ownership

itwbennett writes "As previously reported on Slashdot, activist investor Carl Icahn made a proposal to buy Dell for $15 per share. Now, as part of the review process of potential offers to take Dell private, the company's board of directors has approved an agreement with Icahn that would cap the amount of shares owned by the activist investor. Under the agreement, Icahn and affiliated entities 'have agreed not to make purchases that would cause them to own more than 10 percent of Dell's shares,' Dell said in a statement. Also as part of the agreement, Icahn has agreed not to enter into agreements with other shareholders to jointly own more than 15 percent of Dell's shares." From the press release: "The Special Committee believes that granting the limited waiver to Mr. Icahn while capping his share ownership will maximize the chances of eliciting a superior proposal from Mr. Icahn while at the same time protecting shareholders against potential accumulation of an unduly influential voting interest." Looks like Michael Dell has some serious competition for Dell.

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  1. I don't know *anything* about this by nomel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But how is this legal? Seems to me a truly public company wouldn't be able to limit the shares bought by any entity. I always assume public meant anyone could buy into the company...the more money you put in, the more of the company you own.

    1. Re:I don't know *anything* about this by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is a clear difference between a company deciding how it sells shares it currently owns in an IPO and restricting someone from buying shares from other parties.

      The article isn't entirely clear though, at first glance it makes it sound like Icahn is being frozen out from buying the company, however I think his offer as far as that goes is still on the table. This agreement seems to be more about preventing a hostile takeover, ie Ichan gaining enough shares/influence in the meantime to control the process and have his offer approved with less oversight.

      As it's an agreement Ichan is presumably OK with it though if you were a Dell shareholder you might be annoyed that the company has taken someone who might buy your shares out of the market for a while.

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    2. Re:I don't know *anything* about this by alexander_686 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not - Dell can not stop Ichan from buying more shares - so they are giving him something different.

      Ichan has publicly stated that he has no interested in buying out Dell - just that he thinks it worth more then M. Dell's offer of $14. People are speculating that Ichan wants 30% of the company, let M. Dell keep his 15%, at let the rest remain in public hands.,

      So now we get to the tricky part. Companies must treat all shareholders equally. As part of that deal, minority shareholders can't collude behind management's back - they have to do things publicly. (These rules go back to the 1950s). So, from the article "Dell has also granted the Icahn entities a waiver that "facilitates" his ability to engage with other Dell stockholders."

      So consider this a pause as Ichan can muster his forces.

    3. Re:I don't know *anything* about this by larry+bagina · · Score: 2

      They can't limit it (other than invoking a poison pill provision). But they can make an agreement with him. That's what a contract is - you agree to do (or not do) something in exchange for someone else doing (or not doing) something.

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  2. Analysis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We know Icahn, he's not going to give up something for nothing. But what does he get from this waiver?

    My hunch is that Icahn doesn't think enough of Dell's prospects, with or without Michael Dell as CEO, to buy the company; but he does want his greenmail.

  3. Board malfeasance by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I own Dell stock and I claim that limiting Icahn's ownership undermines my share value (which it probably does), I could sue the company.

    1. Re:Board malfeasance by ThosLives · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's a shame that people tend to view the purpose of (public) companies is to make money for their owners, rather than provide a product or service which can only be provided by pooling the resources of a group of people acting corporately.

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    2. Re:Board malfeasance by alexander_686 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No - that not true. If it were M. Dell would have approved his own takeover.

      The board has to independently review all offers and pick the best one. That is why the board 1. formed a special sub-committee that M. Dell was not on and 2. got a "shop around" option and 3. was given enough cash to hire some Wall Street investment banker types.. This is standard in terms of handling conflicts of interest like this.

    3. Re:Board malfeasance by ThosLives · · Score: 2

      Who is the "they" here? The employees of the company? Shareholders?

      In either case I don't think it's relevant; my comment was more an observation of the fact that some people believe the only purpose of companies is to make money for the owners.

      I might, though, go so far as to argue that most shareholders "do it" for almost nothing: they risk only financial loss, but have no responsibility for the activities of their company. Have shareholders ever been held responsible for the actions of the company they "own"?

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    4. Re:Board malfeasance by thoth · · Score: 2

      Dealing with crap like this is one of the reasons Dell wants to take his company private. He'll have the freedom/ability to act as he sees fit without dealing with shareholder lawsuits at every turn.

    5. Re:Board malfeasance by alexander_686 · · Score: 2

      I would disagree. I would bet that most of the examples you point out were due to fraud, greed, or manias. These are human conditions that exist without the profit motive. Or, another way to put it, capitalism (either in it's left wing “socialism light” or your hard right liberation form) is like democracy – a horrible system whose only saving grace is that it is better then any other system.

    6. Re:Board malfeasance by schnell · · Score: 2

      I might, though, go so far as to argue that most shareholders "do it" for almost nothing: they risk only financial loss, but have no responsibility for the activities of their company. Have shareholders ever been held responsible for the actions of the company they "own"?

      I think you - and probably most Slashdotters - misunderstand the whole purpose of corporations as compared to partnerships or proprietorships. This is a gross oversimplification, and I'm only familiar with US company structures, but here's the real short version:

      Companies can take many forms, but the most common are sole proprietorships, partnerships (regular or limited liability, etc.) or corporations. In a sole proprietorship or partnership, the shareholders are legally responsible for the actions of the company (to varying degrees). If your sole proprietorship/partnership violates the law or racks up huge debts, guess who they're coming after personally? You. That's why these company structures are only suitable when there is just a small group of owners who are all involved in the running of the business and can thus accept the risk of being responsible for it.

      If you want lots and lots (thousands or millions) of people to buy stock in your company (thereby funding it through their purchase in your IPO), that's not going to happen if they're all individually responsible for the actions of the corporation. For example, it makes no sense for a little old lady whose retirement fund holds shares in BP to be held responsible for the failure of their GoM drilling rigs. So you create a "corporation" which has the legal fiction of personhood that is separate from the shareholders. So if the corporation violates laws or goes down in flames owing big piles of cash, you can go after the executives and/or give the "death sentence" to the corporation (e.g. the Bell System antitrust breakup, Chapter 7 bankruptcy, etc.) but you can't hold the shareholders responsible. Note though that this isn't 100% true - courts can "pierce the corporate veil" if you have a corporation that is being run like an individual's fiefdom with no oversight, and hold the individuals liable as well like it was a sole proprietorship or partnership.

      The above explanation is way, WAY oversimplified but I can't think of any way to explain it in a detailed fashion with a car analogy.

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  4. Re:Qui Bono? by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Informative

    He doesn't think he can run the company better than Dell, exactly, except from the perspective of 'break it apart and sell off the pieces.' Remember Dell told Apple to "close the company and give the money back to the shareholders?" That's basically what Michael Dell trying to do, except he was trying to keep the biggest chunk for himself.

    Dell the company has something like $40 billion in assets, but the cost of buying all the stock (market cap) is $24billion. Dell planned on taking the company private and then disbursing a lot of that cash to himself and his friends.

    Carl Icahn saw that and said, "the share price you are offering is too cheap. I'm going to pay more than your $24billion offer and then keep the money for myself."

    Dell is trying to say, "calm down, let's find a point midway that makes us all happy before this bidding war gets out of control." Who knows if that will work, but the likely endgame in all scenarios is that Dell the company will be destroyed.

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  5. Re:He wants the debt by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Insightful

    His proposal is that the $20 billion needed to borrow to buyback the shareholders all go to Mr. Icahn in a one lump sum payout (ok all the shareholders get it ... but added for dramatization) while Dell pays it back with interest over 20 years and possibly dying. Icahn sells it to someone else who gets screwed while he gets rich in the short term price bubble. Or Icahn keeps it and forces dell to sell all of its assets to raise the shareprice and then sells it when it has to repurchase all its assets again.

    Icahn did that to Timewarner. The company had to sell everything and then repurcahse it again after the stock price surged and the others were left holding the bag.

    This man is a menace!