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Obama Administration Threatens CISPA Veto, EFF Urges Action
An anonymous reader sent in word that the Obama administration is threatening to veto CISPA in its current form because "The Administration, however, remains concerned that the bill does not
require private entities to take reasonable steps to remove irrelevant personal information (PDF) when
sending cybersecurity data to the government or other private sector entities. Citizens have a
right to know that corporations will be held accountable — and not granted immunity — for failing
to safeguard personal information adequately. The Administration is committed to working with
all stakeholders to find a workable solution to this challenge."
Ars has a few more details, the EFF urges U.S. citizens to oppose the bill, and one of the sponsors tweeted that those opposed to the bill are basement dwelling fourteen-year-olds. Note that the Administration still wants there to be some kind of comprehensive data sharing law in the name of cybersecurity, so this may very well rear its head again in the coming months.
American politics is all over the board on so many things.
What kind of United States citizen wants to oppose the POTUS on protecting citizens' rights from corporate interests?
"Stratigraphically the origin of agriculture and thermonuclear destruction will appear essentially simultaneous" -- Lee
You can count on this issue never going away. For all the corporately-fueled K St. lobbiests lurking in Congress, private citizens have *VERY* few friends. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is one of them, the American Civil Liberties Union is another. Donations to these two organizations, and others like them are the only way to ensure these watchdog organizations stick around. Without watchdog organizations pouring over every amendment and potential bill we are FUBAR'd. Who else will be watching the watchers?
No he cant work with legislative bodies. A good case for when compromise is not always the best course. Yet another way for government to get private information from private companies, never mind private companies sharing amongst themselves. Someday soon the time will come when what you buy is recorded, say you buy viagra. Not only will you start getting offers from condom companies, but your quote for medical insurance will be higher. Who know, maybe that points you out as a risk taker and car insurance will go up.
We're 41-year-old basement dwellers, you insensitive clod!
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This is a serious question, I don't know the answer. Does HIPAA protect pharmaceutical purchases? If you buy Viagra from (insert international online pharmacy here), that might be a little different. But for a legit online/in-person pharmacy this seems protected info, and there's enough old ladies/gents out there who'd go apeshit on their legislators if their pill-buying habits were being bought/sold like Facebook likes...
Who's going to hold the government accountable? They don't even have to disclose when they lose your personal information. Yeah corporations don't always have your best interests at heart, but neither does the government. It seems like a lot of people misplace their faith in them. You want to protect your personal information? Don't give it out. When I'm at the register and they ask me for my phone number? I tell 'em no. Sometimes I'm not even nice about it. If they press me I tell them I don't have one (which is technically not a lie it just means I don't have one I want them to call me on). Same thing with SS number. You want to do business with me? Do it without my SSN or I'll go somewhere else. Web sites that ask for the CCV is another one. Yeah it helps them cut down on fraud, but it also puts that number in a database somewhere that may be hacked in the future. I'm not going to risk someone running up my bill to mitigate their risk. Don't like it? Fine, don't do business with me. If more people took this stance we'd have better solutions and everyone would be protected. But instead we punt to the government because personal responsibility is hard.
that 14 year old basement dwellers do not have rights and are not really people.
So I guess "Land of the Free" is now the equivalent of "Unlimited Internet". Guess we'll need to insert a fast-talking legal disclaimer guy into the national anthem now.
I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
Citizens have a right to know that corporations will be held accountable — and not granted immunity —
Like the telecomms weren't granted immunity?
The only person that would call opponents "14 year old basement dwellers" are 14 year old basement dwellers. Whoever elected a 14 year old to congress is an idiot.
Congressman, you've been called. Score -5, Troll for you.
What a great idea! Piss off kids who will be voting in a few years. Let's see how well Rogers does with the 18 year old vote in the next election.
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I don't have a basement to put my soon-to-be 14 year olds in.
Donte Alistair Anderson Roberts - hi son!
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Your median is slapped over on the hard left.
FTFY.
Leftist governments are traditionally the governments that are large and up in everyone's business. That's what we got today.
This graph of US state senatorial positions shows the opposite of your above quoted statements. Right-leaning states' senators hold more authoritarian positions, while left-leaning states' senators hold more libertarian positions — though all of those positions are on the right and authoritarian sides of the median axes.
Thank you, Edward Snowden.
"Arguments from authority are worthless." —Carl Sagan
Through my 401k, I own stock in several amoral multi-nationals. I have just as much control over them as I do the multi-national that employs me. Your argument is a purposeful distraction - basically propaganda for the criminal .001% that rule over everyone.
Republicans are totally out of touch with people. Rogers is a Republican. So he has an excuse for being totally out of touch with people.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
How rude!
Arise! Arise, and make your voices heard, basement-dwelling 40 year olds! >:-(
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
The president threatened to veto the 2012 NDAA as well. Then, they amended the bill to grant government the power to indefinitely detain U.S. citizens on U.S. soil without charge trial or access to legal counsel and he signed.
Guess he's holding out for the "Internet kill switch" provision he's been wanting for years.
I think that's exactly what the OP (Industrial Complex) was pointing out. We have a "left" and a "right" but they all committed to big government and authoritarianism.
I think that's exactly what the OP (Industrial Complex) was pointing out. We have a "left" and a "right" but they all committed to big government and authoritarianism.
Yes, but the AC I responded to claimed the US was left-of-median, which isn't true. Anyone can claim anything; my intent was to provide objective data illustrating that the left/right, authoritarian/libertarian spectrum in the US exists within the confines of right-wing authoritarianism (at least as far as elected officials are concerned).
I have a pretty good memory of Slashdot-regulars' general political stances, and it's heartening to see the broad bipartisan support here in opposing many authoritarian policies: increasing domestic surveillance, subversion of due process, drug prohibition, and oppressive security theater, to name a few examples.
Unfortunately, this coming-together to defend civil liberties is not as widespread throughout the US populace as it is here. I think that the populace's support for policy based on the proposer — rather than the proposal — is a good demonstration of why this isn't occurring. That a person would abandon their own principles, though, in favor of petty partisanship boggles my mind.
Thank you, Edward Snowden.
"Arguments from authority are worthless." —Carl Sagan
That is EXACTLY what I was saying, the only "differences" is on kayfabe bullshit that corps don't give a rat's ass about like gays or whether more money will be pissed down a rathole giving to "green" asshole buddies of the POTUS or big oil friends of the POTUS.
But if you follow the money, start looking at just the obvious bribes like SuperPACs? these guys win either way, that is the beauty of it for them. and its not even the top 1%, the ones making out like gods on this kayfabe are the top 0.01%, the kind of guys that can pick up the phone at 3 AM and have the POTUS on the other line in 20 minutes. There are the "too big to fails", those that keep power through multiple presidents, like how Goldman Sachs has had one of their boys running the fed almost every year since it was built and it didn't matter if it was a supposedly "left" or "right" guy in the white house, its THOSE guys that have thrown so much money into the system that no matter who loses they win.
This is also why we no longer have a left wing, you have far right and extreme far right, because more control, more spying, less freedoms, this works out REAL well for them as these laws don't apply to them, just us peasants. But anybody who can call Obama a lefty with a straight face is either clueless to what left is or just trolling as our democratic party would be labeled far right on the rest of the western world's measuring stick but because you can't have fake drama and fighting without 2 people you get the kayfabe we have now. Honestly I could probably take the policies of the last 4 presidents, jumble them up, and just read off the policies and nobody would even be able to tell if I was talking about dems or reps, as its not even two sides of a coin anymore, its just a game of three card monty meant to keep the peasants off the 0.01% while they plunder.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
But you missed the other point I was talking about which is we can change that just as we got Joe and Jane talking about SOPA/PIPA by having all the little Internet personalities and bloggers making vids and doing stunts to promote awareness.
More and more folks are getting a good chunk of entertainment NOT from the corporate controlled media but from all these little Internet personalities, the Angry Joes and Film Brains of the world so if we get THOSE guys to promote the hell out of making the public aware and spreading the word we CAN change this just as we did with SOPA/PIPA. I mean i had folks that are about as anti-politics as you can get coming into the shop and asking me "What is SOPA/PIPA?" and when I asked them how they heard of it the answer would always be some funny little Internet personality they like to watch was posting links to petitions and urging viewers to write congress.
So we CAN change things, we simply have to think outside the box and avoid the corporate owned mainstream media.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.