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Obama Administration Threatens CISPA Veto, EFF Urges Action
An anonymous reader sent in word that the Obama administration is threatening to veto CISPA in its current form because "The Administration, however, remains concerned that the bill does not
require private entities to take reasonable steps to remove irrelevant personal information (PDF) when
sending cybersecurity data to the government or other private sector entities. Citizens have a
right to know that corporations will be held accountable — and not granted immunity — for failing
to safeguard personal information adequately. The Administration is committed to working with
all stakeholders to find a workable solution to this challenge."
Ars has a few more details, the EFF urges U.S. citizens to oppose the bill, and one of the sponsors tweeted that those opposed to the bill are basement dwelling fourteen-year-olds. Note that the Administration still wants there to be some kind of comprehensive data sharing law in the name of cybersecurity, so this may very well rear its head again in the coming months.
You can count on this issue never going away. For all the corporately-fueled K St. lobbiests lurking in Congress, private citizens have *VERY* few friends. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is one of them, the American Civil Liberties Union is another. Donations to these two organizations, and others like them are the only way to ensure these watchdog organizations stick around. Without watchdog organizations pouring over every amendment and potential bill we are FUBAR'd. Who else will be watching the watchers?
No he cant work with legislative bodies. A good case for when compromise is not always the best course. Yet another way for government to get private information from private companies, never mind private companies sharing amongst themselves. Someday soon the time will come when what you buy is recorded, say you buy viagra. Not only will you start getting offers from condom companies, but your quote for medical insurance will be higher. Who know, maybe that points you out as a risk taker and car insurance will go up.
That isn't what he's doing. He's asking that they share information, they just don't share irrelevant information. The EFF is in opposition by asking that no information be shared at all.
It's basically one group wants to stick a rebar up your ass, Obama says "no, a silicone dildo with lube will do", EFF says "don't stick anything up our asses."
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We're 41-year-old basement dwellers, you insensitive clod!
I am officially gone from
I can think of a few
- The citizens who own the corporations, or are sufficiently high enough in its organization to make wads of money off it
- The citizens who think POTUS is on the right track, but is approaching it wrong or have issues with the current implementation
- The crazy fuckers who oppose POTUS at every turn because he's black/Arab/has a white grandmother/The Man/Muslim/not Muslim/supports Israel/hates Israel/is from Kenya/is from Hawaii/is getting gray hairs/etc
- The slightly less crazy fuckers who oppose POTUS at every turn because they oppose his general political stance, but don't have the time/effort to pick and choose which specific issues to oppose
- and many more!
that 14 year old basement dwellers do not have rights and are not really people.
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good f'n morning.
This doesn't "oppose" shit anymore than 150 year plus copyrights "protect artists", its about making sure the corps can datamine like crazy and then thanks to those being private businesses the PTBs can simply buy any intel on you they want without any of those pesky warrants.
Lets be honest folks, what we have now isn't even Coke VS Pepsi anymore, what we have is Coke in a bottle VS Coke in a can, because its the same corporate masters buying both sides. this is why you see the supposedly "ultra leftist" (to hear the right tell it) Obama embracing frankly the worst abuses of power of Bush and even expanding them, this is why supposed right wingers like Bush spent like a drunken sailor while in office, its because what we have now is bullshit spectacle for the masses, its as kayfabe as pro wrestling. I mean how can anybody even say we have a left and a right when the left POTUS is as pro big brother as the right or say we have a right when their POTUS blows through as much cash as any left winger.
This is why frankly its up to the geeks to save us, they need to make encryption as simple and easy as pushing a button so all these big brother wannabes get is a big old pile of static.And we nerds need to throw the biggest bitchfits ever, just fucking spam the entire web with messages about this kind of bullshit like we did with SOPA/PIPA because that is the ONLY way we can get this kind of bullshit stopped, voting left or right won't do jack,only by doing what we did with SOPA/PIPA and making sure every politician knows that supporting this shit is a career killer will shit like this die. they are counting on us to get tired, on us to give up and roll over, we need to show them that nerd-rage can last for a VERY long time and get Joe and Jane Average to listen. This is VERY doable as i can tell you I had countless "normals" in my shop asking me about SOPA/PIPA when all the bloggers and web personalities jumped on board, we really need to do that again with this garbage.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Withholding the information will work for now while this stuff is still in turmoil. However, if it becomes established across all businesses, then where will you go to buy food if no one will sell it to you without your phone number? What about a car? A home or apartment? I'm not so paranoid that I object to giving out a little personal information (like a ZIP code) but I don't like the idea of giving companies information not directly relevant to the business we're doing. If you're shipping me something, I can see why you would need my phone number. If I'm buying it in-store, then you don't need that. Unfortunately, most people will just give whatever information is asked for... I've had people give me their SS# or bank PIN because they misunderstood me when I was asking for something else.
The general masses don't understand that information is the ultimate smart bomb... it can be used to target a single individual with almost no collateral damage and can be launched from anywhere in the world at any time with no warning. The only defense is to protect the information and prevent it from spreading as much as possible.
You're right about what I meant. The original poster was asking "what kind of citizen"? and I gave a few examples of them. However, as with the other examples, these are a small (but very vocal) minority of the overall population and in a true democracy would have almost no say in matters. However, there are people that think the big money CEOs shouldn't get any say, effectively denying them their rights as a citizen. I think they should get the same say as any other citizen ("one person, one vote" so to speak). When it comes to matters of economy, they may be more important because of their relative impact but when it comes to what is essentially a civil rights issue, then everybody should be held as an equal because my personal opinion is that civil rights trump economics... a free population is more important than a wealthy population.
Absolutely. "One man one vote" is a phrase that comes to my mind a lot these days.
I absolutely don't have a problem with CEOs voicing their opinions. I have a problem with their opinions holding perhaps one million times the weight mine does a private citizen. I don't even have a problem with a CEO opinion holding more weight than mine in certain cases (as experts, especially), but right now the private citizen means nothing. We keep hearing screams about "liberty," but as I read the constitution that's WAY out of line for what they believed liberty to be.
Citizens have a right to know that corporations will be held accountable — and not granted immunity —
Like the telecomms weren't granted immunity?
This bill sucks. The supposed "veto threat" is just a way to make it more to his liking. He'll sign it no matter what. We should have learned by now that, in spite of Obama's rhetoric to the contrary, he consistently supports every initiative that supports or helps big corporations that gets to his desk. The only exception I can think of is the Keystone Pipeline, and even with that he claimed it was someone else's decision.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
I mean how can anybody even say we have a left and a right when the left POTUS is as pro big brother as the right or say we have a right when their POTUS blows through as much cash as any left winger.
We do have a left and a right. What you are missing is the 'Up' and 'Down' which represents Authoritarian vs Libertarian.
So you have a Left Authoritarian, and Right Authoritarian.
So you really do get the option between left and right. What you don't get is choice for liberty.
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To clarify something here, it's easy for people on /. so scream "BUT BUT BUT the PEOPLE own the corporations!!11!", but every time that gets mentioned it is always left out that over the half the stock of U.S. corporations are owned by the top 1% of the population.
Do you have a reference for that? I've always heard that the vast majority is held in retirement account trusts, which would be a hell of a lot more than "the 1%", it would include everyone with anything other than SS to retire on.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
This is a serious question, I don't know the answer. Does HIPAA protect pharmaceutical purchases?
I does now. But it won't after the gun control "universal background" check gets passed. There is an explicit exemption in there for all medical providers to share information with the background check system. So if you're prescribed anything from Haldol to Ritalin to Prozac (and any other flavor of SSRI), or even Wellbutrin, you'll be flagged as having a mental illness and unable to purchase a gun, and probably have any you own confiscated. They already do that in New York and California.
It's a good idea, but a bad implementation. It's a sledgehammer approach better implemented by relying on psychiatrists and psychologists evaluations. It will sweep up a lot of veterans that are no danger to anyone but the bad actors on the streets.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
It's basically one group wants to stick a rebar up your ass, Obama says "no, a silicone dildo with lube will do", EFF says "don't stick anything up our asses."
I am so stealing your example.
Pedro
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The Insomniac Coder
Your median is slapped over on the hard left.
FTFY.
Leftist governments are traditionally the governments that are large and up in everyone's business. That's what we got today.
This graph of US state senatorial positions shows the opposite of your above quoted statements. Right-leaning states' senators hold more authoritarian positions, while left-leaning states' senators hold more libertarian positions — though all of those positions are on the right and authoritarian sides of the median axes.
Thank you, Edward Snowden.
"Arguments from authority are worthless." —Carl Sagan