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Anonymous Raises Over $54,000 For Dedicated Your Anon News Website

hypnosec writes "Anonymous knocked the doors of Indiegogo in a bid to raise some crowd-sourced dough to expand its news coverage by establishing a dedicated site instead of tweets and tumblr blog posts and managed to raise 27 time as much money as initially targeted. The initial target was to raise $2000 to fund the site development work as well as pay for initial hosting. Anonymous is planning to host news, reports and blogs from independent online reporters under its, already in use, Your Anon News brand."

72 comments

  1. $2000? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 0

    The initial target was to raise $2000 to fund the site development work as well as pay for initial hosting.

    First of all, $2000 to get a website won't get you far, unless you like in a very small town of 10K people or so. And given the traffic that will be generated, I'm not even sure $2000 would have been enough to pay for one year of hosting.

    My question is: did they pull that $2000 figure out of their asses?

    1. Re:$2000? by StormyWeather · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they write the website themselves, and have some sort of advertising for income then 2000 is fair. It doesn't have to be some big corporate conglomerate professional website. Sometimes doing things on a shoestring is a good way to start. Why burn a ton of cash if you don't get the people contributing the way you thought you would?

    2. Re:$2000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a glorified Youtube video blog series can end up with $150,000 despite aiming for $6000, it's safe to say that funding goals are pointless.

    3. Re:$2000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well said.

    4. Re:$2000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      + they can test their own website for vulnerabilities for free : much better than any big corporate conglomerate professional website :)

    5. Re:$2000? by ByOhTek · · Score: 1

      Given the comment on town size, and bandwith, I suspect the GP was referring to monthly bandwidth more than dev costs. It's anonymous, they probably won't have to bother with dev costs. Even assuming cheap VMs and whatnot, the bandwidth for such a site could be an issue, and including the VM to run it, cost $30-$60 a month (was looking at a relatively cheap Linux/FreeBSD host with 500GB/month). I think the top plan had $100 for 2TB/month. Still not to or beyond the $2000/year number, but not exactly cheap.

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    6. Re:$2000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plenty of cheap providers out there like dreamhost that provide unlimited data for cheap. 8.95 for unlimited storage, and data. Who knows how well their infrastructure can handle large amounts of traffic or how fast it will be, but $2000 is over 200 months worth of hosting. Apparently they even have full shell/SSH access with the shared hosting.

      Even if you upgrade to a dedicated VPS that is only $15 a month.

    7. Re:$2000? by fazey · · Score: 1

      lol anonnews isnt going to use dreamhost. What are you even thinking?
      Although you can get an unmetered server for ~150/mo, or colo one for 85/mo with providers I am currently using.
      The major issue I see with this plan, is most datacenters allow 3 letter agencies to just walk in, and copy drives.

    8. Re:$2000? by xclr8r · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who knows but they need to be careful.. They are now making a money trail and this is Law Enforcement's bread and butter. Even if they try to compartmentalize different divisions there is still occasional cross chatter. Stay frosty.

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    9. Re:$2000? by Splab · · Score: 1

      Well don't store data then?

      Just put the stuff in memory based databases and/or steal the partition setup from Tails; that thing will wipe data faster than you can say "shit didn't mean to do that".

    10. Re:$2000? by tattood · · Score: 2

      The major issue I see with this plan, is most datacenters allow 3 letter agencies to just walk in, and copy drives.

      I doubt that they will be hosting the source code for their cracking tools or internal forums for their secret stuff. It is probably going to be just a blog of sorts that they can use as their official channel for news about their activity. Who cares of the govt takes the drives if it's all public info anyway? And do you really think they are going to host it in the U.S.A.?

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    11. Re:$2000? by BenSchuarmer · · Score: 1

      So, who is going to pay to advertise on their site?

    12. Re:$2000? by Myopic · · Score: 1

      Hopefully nobody, but probably whoever wants to reach its audience. Was that a trick question?

    13. Re:$2000? by fazey · · Score: 1

      As you can see the US govt has no problem reaching into other countries. And the issue is passwords, and ip addresses. Tieing it to an ip gives you a person to harass for more information on how they know... to try and work your way up the chain. Not so much "cracking tools".

    14. Re:$2000? by StormyWeather · · Score: 1

      Google adwords, people looking to hire hacking talent, dunno lots of people would probably want to, unsure of who might want to be seen as supporting them.

  2. You should trust them even less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Than this anonymous coward.

  3. Biased, but that is okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think this is good.

    It's not like it won't be biased, but the fact is that we have no high-profile news service that doesn't exhibit a strong pro-corporate bias right now. When OWS was active you had to go to R.T. or Al Jazeera to get anything near to fair reporting on it. Don't forget that Erin Burnett spent the very first minutes of her first CNN show bashing OWS in an unfair way. CNN, despite the shrill idiots that constantly say there is a pro-Left bias there, consistently takes the corporate side on all issues.

    We need more high-profile news outlets to balance out that corporate bias.

    1. Re:Biased, but that is okay... by dyingtolive · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sadly, I expect them to get lumped in with the crackpots of the world, whether they're right or not. The corporate news outlets didn't get to be the only players in town by mistake, and they have a huge head-start on sculpting public opinion.

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    2. Re:Biased, but that is okay... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      The corporate news outlets didn't get to be the only players in town by mistake

      The corporate news outlets aren't the only players in town.

      I get most of my news from Google News, and right now they have stories from the big corps, but they also have content from Xinhua, Al Jezeera, several local papers and several blog sites.

    3. Re:Biased, but that is okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like it won't be biased, but the fact is that we have no high-profile news service that doesn't exhibit a strong pro-corporate bias right now.

      Ah, so you're saying it's good in that it'll still be horribly biased, but it'll be biased in a way that WE agree with it, making it better than other news sources?

      We need more high-profile news outlets to balance out that corporate bias.

      Just like how some media mogul crackpot decided that we needed a more right-wing news outlet to "balance out" the left-wing bias, and we see how well that worked out. Gotcha. Welcome to Fox News But On Our Side This Time So It's Okay!

    4. Re:Biased, but that is okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this is good.

      CNN, despite the shrill idiots that constantly say there is a pro-Left bias there, consistently takes the corporate side on all issues.

      You realize that CNN stands for *Corporate* News Network, right?

    5. Re:Biased, but that is okay... by kualla · · Score: 1

      "but the fact is that we have no high-profile news service that doesn't exhibit a strong pro-corporate bias right now" Not true... search: "Breaking The Set" No propaganda and false information compared to the corporate media. Free on Hulu and has many past issues to watch.

  4. Harden that site. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They had better make it resistant to DDOS, otherwise their former targets may retaliate. Also try not to keep too much information on people because the government may try to hack it.

    1. Re:Harden that site. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Glad you're the first one to think of those things.

  5. When someone defaces their site? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Who gets blamed?

  6. Not supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As an Anon, I cannot support this effort. This is totally contrary to how Anonymous operated, and it's an attempt to put an official channel on the name and idea of Anonymous.

    This site will eventually be controlled or shut down, or censored. And people will get the wrong idea that Anonymous has sold out, and that's not true at all. The timing for this is just too canny.

    Anonymous does not support it.

    1. Re:Not supported by Quakeulf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It was posted on /pol/ a while ago. Already then it was dismissed. I don't see this as being anything but yet another opinionated meaning-skewing outlet just like every other. Look at /. for instance, after being here I feel that I should buy more computer hardware and learn to code.

    2. Re:Not supported by Gaygirlie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is totally contrary to how Anonymous operated, and it's an attempt to put an official channel on the name and idea of Anonymous.

      Since there is no official guideline or anything as to how Anonymous operates and as each click is also considered Anonymous even if they did the complete opposite of another click it obviously means that yes, this is indeed how Anonymous operates, it just may not be your click.

      Anonymous does not support it.

      It actually seems that Anonymous both does and doesn't support it. That's what you get for being Anonymous.

    3. Re:Not supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well at least learn to code. How else do you get shit done? You'd have to use the interfaces provided and I think we all know better than to do that.

    4. Re:Not supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm Anonymous, and I endorse this message.

    5. Re:Not supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's clique not click.

    6. Re:Not supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      disregard that; I suck cocks.

    7. Re:Not supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We are Anonymous. We are legion. We are decentralized. Therefore, we are unstoppable. To that end, we are creating this highly-advertised, centralized news site that...

      ...oh. Um... we can still keep your money, though, right?

    8. Re:Not supported by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1

      It's clique not click.

      I stand corrected and shall remember that in the future.

    9. Re:Not supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As with all other anon ops distribution points, @anonops/@youranonnews/etc, there are those individuals among the collective that agree and disagree with the messages posted by the propaganda arms of the collective.

      Your objection is noted, and we endeavour to make sure that some form of consensus is reached prior to any communications.

    10. Re:Not supported by Phusion · · Score: 0

      Actually, they are not attempting to put an official channel on the name and idea of Anonymous.

      They are creating a centralized news site where news about Anonymous and Anonymous operations and be aggregated, discussed, posted etc. I also can't agree with your predictions that the site will be "controlled, or shut down, or censored" -- and how exactly will people get the idea Anonymous has sold out? By creating a legitimate media outlet, it's more like they're gaining more awareness...

      You don't speak for Anonymous, so let's not go spouting ignorant rubbish about it selling out and what it does or does not support. I hear the bell ringing kiddo, it's time for class.

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    11. Re:Not supported by jmd · · Score: 1

      This is exactly the same problem we encountered in OccupyLA. Many of the original planners were drowned out, or lets be polite and say OccupyLA just morphed into something radically different than originally conceived. It happens in all systems. See: US Gov't and democracy

    12. Re:Not supported by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoever down modded this doesn't read enough bash. org.

    13. Re:Not supported by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      The amount of money raised for this is just too canny, IMHO sounds like advertisement for a disinfo op.
      Or maybe Anonymous IS the disinfo op itself, and the fake disinfo op would be fought by Anonymous in an epic, fake battle.

      To go from speculation to prediction, this would mean this operation will piss off many anonymous supporters eventually.

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  7. You'd be surprised how accurate their news is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I took a gander at /pol/ during the bombings on Monday. Peel back the casual racism and horrible jokes and you will find what I'd call "crowdsourced news" -- people were transcribing the police scanner in realtime, verifying sources and continually updating what was or was not consensus on various news items. They knew the Saudi they kneejerked into arresting wasn't involved hours before the media was reporting on it for example.

    Outlets are already writing out editorials about the new journalism, where many people were getting their news from tweets and blogs instead of mainstream news. I anticipate this new site will be a simple way of aggregating the thousands of pairs of eyes that witness news as it happens. I'm a bit concerned when it comes to their coverage of "exclusive" news, though -- I doubt that Anonymous will be allowed to sit in the White House Press Room, or interview CEOs and politicians.

    1. Re:You'd be surprised how accurate their news is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They knew the Saudi they kneejerked into arresting wasn't involved hours before the media was reporting on it for example.

      Since no Saudi was arrested, so, the value of /pol/ is what again?
       

      updating what was or was not consensus on various news items

      Consensus is opinion, not news, so once again.... you're not convincing me that /pol/ has any value.
       
      Posted anon to avoid the flames of outrage because I dare to question. Though actually it's quite odd - while encouraging questions on the surface, most 'alternative' news outlets (or more accurately their supporters) are very intolerant of questions regarding them. (Which alternative sources include Slashdot.)

    2. Re:You'd be surprised how accurate their news is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > peel back the casual racism

      a lot of it is just the truth. Not the kind of thing you're allowed to say in polite company, of course.

      > and the horrible jokes

      that's called being human :) you know real newscasters tell each other those jokes when the cameras are off

  8. Excited! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm so excited! Anonymous will have the best news site EVER! Move over CNN, you're #start obnoxious code hereabout#end of savvy swank to be replaced as the #1 laughing stock of the news industry!

  9. Hmm, how accurate are "exclusive" news? by coder111 · · Score: 2

    I mean, if you get read some official statement prepared by a PR committee, how much can you trust it to be accurate? Even if they get facts right, the stated reasons behind it (save the kids, not because we just got bribed) or the declared outcome (cavity searches in airports will protect us from terrorists) are usually lies.

    All of the official news could hugely benefit from croudsourced background checks, source verification, etc. We need something like a "lexical analyzer" described in Asimov's "Foundation". To discard all the cruft and extract the essence of official statements.

    --Coder

    1. Re:Hmm, how accurate are "exclusive" news? by bbcisdabomb · · Score: 1

      We have that. It's called a brain.

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    2. Re:Hmm, how accurate are "exclusive" news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't help when people constantly pound on others with tinfoil hat/conspiracy slurs. Ghettoization of intellectualism, suppression of suspicion.

    3. Re:Hmm, how accurate are "exclusive" news? by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      We have that. It's called a brain.

      I do, you probably do. Clearly nobody posting comments on YahooNews does, so we're badly outnumbered.
      Come up with some alternative source-sifting method.

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  10. Who's the underwriter? by kiehlster · · Score: 2

    So who is the sucker that chose to underwrite this endeavor and expose his/her name to the public by way of collecting the funds? Sorry, I didn't RTFA as it was /.ed. I know anonymous is all about being faceless while still exposing information to the world, but a website with money behind it is kind of putting a face to the entity.

    1. Re:Who's the underwriter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Anonymous" is internet for "We, the people",

  11. Re:Warning about impersonation and mod abuse... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Somebody is off his/her meds today and has unleashed his/her stream of consciousness.

  12. I had high hopes for Anon. by concealment · · Score: 1

    At first, I was excited by this. A new way of looking at the world! Crowd-sourcing! etc.

    Now I'm cynical. Crowd sourcing translates to witch-hunts. The ideas that Anon have adopted are the same old ones that got us in this mess in the first place.

    You want news? Go to Slashdot or Hacker News.

    Stoned basement-dwelling teenage life dropouts should not be determining what we think is "news"

    1. Re:I had high hopes for Anon. by femtobyte · · Score: 1

      Stoned basement-dwelling teenage life dropouts should not be determining what we think is "news"

      Don't worry. If this takes off, in a short while the news will be produced by teams of highly-trained sociologists, expert at formatting their corporate masters' propaganda to apparently come from, and be eagerly parroted by, basement-dwelling dropouts.

      In other words, the news will be filtered with equal expertise to conventional "old media" mainstream news sources.

  13. I am not Anonymous, and I do not endorse this. by TiggertheMad · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anonymous does not support it.

    News Flash! Today, the Anonymous news site was hacked, apparently by a rogue group called Anonymous. Anonymous posted a manifesto on the hacked servers, stating, "Anonymous is against the biased news that is posted by Anonymous, and we are dedicated to show the world what a pack of tools they are."

    The spokesperson for Anonymous stated, "These Anonymous guys are just jerks, why would they do this?'

    An anonymous source went on record to say, "Nobody knows what is going on in the community. Also, don't use my name! Ahhhhhh!"

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    1. Re:I am not Anonymous, and I do not endorse this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That pretty much sums it all up perfectly. +1 Internets!

  14. anon fundraising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there appears to be a substantial constituency of people who believes allowing an organization to collect personal/financial details of individuals who support anonymous is both dangerous and contrary to the spirit of anonymous.

  15. Cat Power by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 3, Funny

    It actually seems that Anonymous both does and doesn't support it. That's what you get for being Anonymous.

    So Schrodinger's Cat will definitely be the editor in chief.

  16. asking $ 2000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    netzpolitik is asking for 10,000 Eur(!) per Month, and they don't do news, but are just blogging.

  17. Adept cynicism by concealment · · Score: 1

    I think you're right, despite the waves of vast cynicism in that post.

    Another way to put this is that the audience defines the product. Our inattentive public wants news-drama, not news-factuality, so any news service run as a business will quickly start with the Justin Bieber and Jodi Arias stories...

  18. May depend on events by phorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For example, in the Rehtaeh Parsons case (Canada), Anon basically showed the RCMP (police) as having put little effort into the case, and have proceeded to dig up evidence and essentially revive the case.

    As with the link above, major news outlets in Canada have carried this story, and the reputation of anon seems to be improving in regards to revealing similar issues in gov't or law enforcement.

    So long as they can tame the "lulz" area of things, an official news site might be a good/popular reference for some things.

  19. whois info by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    Not sure how they plan on registering the domain and still remaining 'Anonymous' since ICANN won't allow any-old-BS* in the whois record anymore.

    [8] -http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/registrant-rights-responsibilities

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  20. As the saying goes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...a fool and his money are soon parted.

  21. YourAnonNews does not speak for "Anonymous" by LoneHighway · · Score: 1

    YourAnonNews = Jackal = Christopher Michael Banks. All that needs to be known about this entity can be found at https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Jackal .

  22. Still embarassing yourself Jeremiah Cornelius? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We know it's you doing it Jeremiah Cornelius http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3581857&cid=43276741

    1. Re:Still embarassing yourself Jeremiah Cornelius? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up, Paul.

  23. CIA money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $52000.00 is all the CIA had in it's budget for this? Well i guess they don't want to blow their cover too much initially..

  24. Anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  25. Daily expenses by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Funding the creation is nice, but how are they going to fund the exploitation of the site? Good journalism has a price, and not paying it means copying news from other mainstream or unreliable outlets.