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LinkedIn Invites Gone Wild: How To Keep Close With Exes and Strangers

sholto writes "An aggressive expansion strategy by LinkedIn has backfired spectacularly amid accusations of identity fraud. Users complained the social network sent unrequested invites from their accounts to contacts and complete strangers, often with embarrassing results. One man claimed LinkedIn sent an invite from his account to an ex-girlfriend he broke up with 12 years ago who had moved state, changed her surname and her email address. ... 'This ex-girlfriend's Linked in profile has exactly ONE contact, ME. My wife keeps getting messages asking 'would you like to link to (her)? You have 1 contact in common!,' wrote Michael Caputo, a literary agent from Massachussetts."

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  1. Fraud by schneidafunk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is this not considered criminal activity? Could LinkedIn just be the target of a spoofing campaign? I have a hard time believing they could be so stupid.

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    1. Re:Fraud by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My previous employer made me get a linkedin account. It is the single most spammy thing I've ever signed up for.
      "Do you know former employee of customer of previous previous employer?" Fuck. Off.

    2. Re:Fraud by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I knew something was up when I got an invite to connect with a guy I used to work for - dude was a royal dickhole as an executive, bad enough that I left the company specifically because of his craptastic management style.

      Seeing an invite from him was enough to make my shudder in revulsion, and I'm sure the feeling would have been mutual.

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    3. Re:Fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Weird. I use LinkedIn both as a recruiting tool and as a connection tool with recruiters (I get between 3 and 5 calls a week from it) and I haven't seen anything of the sort.

      Maybe this is because I took the time to disable such notifications? I don't know but I'd be willing to bet that's the cause.

      LinkedIn is like any other social network; people must take the time to protect their online identities and communications from the tool.

    4. Re:Fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Linkedin is exactly like the business culture it was meant to serve.

      Sleazy, smarmy, greedy, dishonest, sycophantic, treacherous, fraudulent. Simply the core values of American business.

    5. Re:Fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not reasonable to have to protect my "online identity and communications" from a tool that I have purposefully decided NOT to use.

    6. Re:Fraud by Raistlin77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Linkedin is exactly like the business culture it was meant to serve.

      Sleazy, smarmy, greedy, dishonest, sycophantic, treacherous, fraudulent. Simply the core values of global business.

      FTFY

    7. Re:Fraud by sribe · · Score: 2

      ...and I'm sure the feeling would have been mutual.

      Probably not, actually. People like that tend to have such restricted self-awareness and such finely-hone rationalization skills, that no matter how explicit you were when leaving that you hated his guts, he now thinks it was just a bad time for you and that you'd be glad to reconnect, having realized that you were being a bit overwrought at the time ;-)

    8. Re: Fraud by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      It's a sad future. I've been thinking about joining LinkedIn as the entertainment value of building a career path that is a secret mockery of capitalism wears thin (I have no social media presence currently). I'm not ready to cave yet...but I'm thinking about it :-(

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    9. Re:Fraud by arth1 · · Score: 2

      No, those are not global core values.

      Not all businesses are in it to make as much profit as possible. Many older businesses in the old world are in it to provide continuity and a place to work, not just now, but decades down the road. Money is only a means to accomplish that.

    10. Re: Fraud by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      If your contract includes promoting the company as part of your duties, I think you'll find they can.

    11. Re:Fraud by udippel · · Score: 2

      How is this not considered criminal activity? Could LinkedIn just be the target of a spoofing campaign? I have a hard time believing they could be so stupid.

      No. Over.
      I submitted a story some three weeks ago on exactly the same; miraculously (??) mine was finally not accepted. It was the sad and silly story of how 584 invites were sent, without me actually authorising the sending. Including to a good hundred addresses of people where I had applied for a job, but obtained a refusal. The funniest was my landlord, who got an invite on the same day when he received my resignation from the rental contract. Partially out of disgust with his 'business model'. And he knew I was disgusted, and he must have deemed me mad for resigning out of frustration and the same day asking him to become a member of my professional network!? Hahaha!
      My story also contained the result of my search through the Forum at LinkedIn, and I found a thread started one week earlier, with plenty of people asking to retract their invites for similar reasons. And no answer from LinkedIn, at least by then.

      Hahaha! I was totally tempted to send out to ALL my contacts (my list was harvested from my Gmail-account with my authorization). I spare everyone how I was snuggered into this - so partially I am to be blamed myself. But then I would have sent out a de-invite for some people that I had actually invited on purpose.

  2. People are using the address book feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    From what I can gather, people are using the "upload your contact list" / "connect to your email account" feature, without realizing that it automatically sends out invites to your contacts. I'm pretty sure it spells that out quite plainly, though; at least I vaguely recall that it did last time I decided not to use the feature.

    1. Re:People are using the address book feature by joe_frisch · · Score: 2

      You may have been in his email list, or possibly both of you in a 3rd person's list. Has anyone absolutely verified that they received an invite from someone who didn't send one?

    2. Re:People are using the address book feature by obarel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure you're right.

      I hardly pay attention to most of what I read online, especially when I'm on LinkedIn (I'm trying not to look at adverts, so I miss the content as well).

      I found myself once entering my LinkedIn password into some "password" input box, which, as I wasn't paying much attention, I thought was LinkedIn's "your session has expired". However, it rejected the password, which made me look again. I was entering my password into the "we've got your email address, now just give us the password" box. As I have different passwords for different things, no problem. But I'm sure that some people use the same password for everything, and suddenly LinkedIn sends an email to every contact on their gmail account.

  3. I have no trouble believing this by gaudior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    LinkedIn has always seemed shady to me. I joined a few years ago, and got inundated with requests from people who seemed to do nothing with their time but offer to show me how to accumulate linked-in followers. My ex and I were simultaneously suggested to each other as contacts, probably because we still share some friends in common. Neither of us requested anything. I think the whole thing is just another social-media wank-fest, like twitter or google+.

  4. Been wondering myself. by wcrowe · · Score: 2

    I've been wondering about that for a while now. I get LinkedIn invites that seem unlikely. They have all the hallmarks of some automated process unknown to the user.

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    1. Re:Been wondering myself. by DeBaas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Those are probably not from Linkedin. Spammers are sending mail that looks linkedin in now as well. Gmail seems very good in separating real Linkedin and spam looking like Linkedin.

      My issue with Linkedin is that I keep on getting spam from them with an offer for a free month of premium access. Note to Linkedin: if I have to supply credit card details: IT AIN'T FREE!!

         

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  5. Always been aggravating by Quirkz · · Score: 4, Informative

    They've always been aggressive and aggravating, as far as I'm concerned. When a family member signed up with them I got a request. And another. And another. And they kept coming. I finally followed a link and told them to shut up and stop bothering me, but then another associate signed up and it started all over again. I can understand one invite, but they sent far more than was warranted, or could be considered reasonable or polite. I refuse to use them, not just because of the grudge, but also because I don't want them spamming friends or family based on my registration.

  6. The usual sloppy reporting by jtara · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While I find the constant barrage of "do you know" messages annoying, it's pretty clear to me what they are: a message from LinkedIn (NOT the person you might or might not know) asking if you might know this person, and sugesting that you invite THEM.

    Once you click through on one of these, you get the standard LinkedIn invitation request. You are asked to make a selection as to how you know this person. If you check "I don't know this person", then you need to know their email address in order to complete the invitation. AS WITH ANY Linked-In invitation.

    The annoying messages are NOT invitations, though, you AREN'T automatically connected by responding to them (the other person would have to approve) and they AREN'T sent from the other person's account. It's pretty clear they are sent by LinkedIn, trying to drum-up more connections.

    1. Re:The usual sloppy reporting by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, it does have a point. That's how the Google recruiter found me, without me soliciting them first.

      It's much like any other social media site, but it does have the one saving grace that you can actually find jobs with it. Thus, it is the only social media site that I put any effort into whatsoever.

      Still, just like any other social media site, you would be a fool to give them anything but your most tailored information, and certainly not your raw contact list.

  7. There's an easy solution... by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Funny

    have a three-some!

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  8. simple solution by nimbius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    :0
    * H ?? ^From: .*@linkedin\.com
    /dev/null
    Linkedin is to employment as pakistani callcenters are to recruiting. I consider it another "social" site into which people excrete personal details and act perplexed when they receive an influx of redplum junkettes and robocalls. i save my "professional networking" for SCALE, LISA, and pertanent mailing lists.

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  9. Re:Not Random by marsu_k · · Score: 2

    No browser would allow that, it would be completely retarded from a security viewpoint.

  10. LinkedIn is annoying by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I attend an AI group in Boston (for about two years ongoing) and I've learned to not give out my E-mail for this very reason.

    Giving an E-mail address results in them entering it into LinkedIn, which results in me being spammed forever by that system. People I've never heard of send messages "I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn" (some store owner in a distant city).

    The message has a convenient opt-out link, whose page is hilariously ambiguous:

    "You're receiving these emails because a LinkedIn member invited you to become a part of their professional network. By clicking the "Unsubscribe" button, you will stop receiving these emails"

    Two checkboxes below are labelled "Invitations to connect" and "Reminders to connect".

    It took me awhile to realize that you have to *check* the boxes to stop receiving E-mails, instead of *uncheck* the boxes which is how pretty-much all other sites handle it.

    I've never seen a compelling need for this LinkedIn service. Sure, if a member could manage their contacts effectively it might be useful, but the system auto-encourages bigger and more comprehensive webs... which are at the same time less and less useful.

    My impression is that many of the people on the site are "salesmen" types, who think contact circles indicate how impressive they are. Professional networks just for the purpose of having professional networks.

    Thanks, but no thanks. The address-book in my E-mail client works just fine. It even lets me add notes about the person - where I met them, what they do, &c.

    It also doesn't hold my contact info up for everyone to see.

  11. How it works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I guess most people aren't aware of how this actually works. Notice that if you visit LinkedIn on a computer that you normally use, it already knows who you are without having to sign in. So when you think you are casually using LinkedIn to look up an old girlfriend or co-worker that you detest, it logs that activity. Then it WAITS A FEW DAYS AND THEN ASKS THAT PERSON IF THEY KNOW YOU. Yes, it is that creepy.

  12. It's that stupid find contacts I bet ... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Informative

    So many of these sites do that "hey, give us your username and password and we'll find people for you".

    No way no how would I give any of them my password for my email account to sift through and find people. If I want to put information in there, I'll do it myself.

    Though, it wouldn't surprise me if they used some other annoying mechanism to do these invites the user didn't do.

    Like all social networking, your contacts and friends are extremely valuable to them. They want to expand it as much as possible, and might get a little overzealous in doing that.

    As it is, I periodically get invites from people I don't know in LinkedIn, but if I don't know you or haven't worked with you, it's not happening.

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  13. maybe you could try turning off email notification by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative

    Second hit for "linkedin email preferences." You're on Slashdot, and you don't know how to do this?

    http://help.linkedin.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/67

    Email notifications can be added, changed, or stopped in the Email Preferences section of the Settings page [...] The following options are available:

            Individual Email
            Daily Digest Email
            Weekly Digest Email
          No Email

  14. Linked in has gone way downhill by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Early on, it was a good way to reconnect with old friends and the groups actually had decent discussions. Most groups have devolved into a few people arguing amongst themselves (one even has become one person talking to themselves)and a place for people to self promote. For a while there many posts I saw were form bogus job offers and SEO spammers. I still use it to search for old friends but if I get a request from an unknown person I refuse it.

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  15. Great! by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

    Now to convince my girlfriend that I wasn't looking through my ex's Facebook photo albums!

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  16. Re:Not Random by TwineLogic · · Score: 2

    What they are doing is finding you in another person's email (which they voluntarily submitted to LinkedIn), recognizing your address(es), and then suggesting to you that you know this person who has your email address in the contacts they uploaded.

  17. "endorse" is a different feature by jtara · · Score: 4, Informative

    "endorse" is a completely different, new, feature.

    The endorsement messages do not come from the individuals you might endorse. Again, these are generated by LinkedIn, and the language makes that clear. Did you actually read them?

    LinkedIn is asking you to validate that one of your connections "knows" some skill that they have listed.

    I like the feature myself. It's meant as a bit of a BS filter, to give some credibility to people's claims. If you've got 100 connections and say you know "x", and nobody endorses you for "x", there's a good chance you're just making it up.

    It's actually fun. Whenever I go on LinkedIn (which isn't very often) I'll plink-off a few, knowing that I'm helping people I've worked with validate their skills. If I worked with a person who was doing "x" when I worked with them, and I'm asked to endorse them for "x", I endorse them for "x". If I know they are BSing or simply don't know, maybe because their experience with "x" was later, then I pass it by. It's the way it's supposed to work. (There is no negative endorsement.)

    Obviously, though, it will take time for the system to work, since it is a fairly new feature.

    Does anybody use LinkedIn? I do. It's replaced my resume'. However, I don't follow the standard resume' advice to keep it to recent history. I've been a developer for 30+ years. Every job I've ever had is listed.

  18. Re:maybe you could try turning off email notificat by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Second hit for "linkedin email preferences." You're on Slashdot, and you don't know how to do this?

    If he only joined LinkedIn because he was forced to, I can understand not caring enough to customize it to his liking. Especially since "his liking" would be "not having it at all". In that case, getting rid of the unwanted email by sending it to the spam bucket is a perfectly rational solution.

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  19. Linkedin is no better than Facebook by Sydin · · Score: 2

    Both of them are hungry for all the personal data they can get their hands on, so that they can turn around and sell anything to you, and sell you to anything. The problem is that while I'm completely in control of my choice to have a Facebook account (read: I don't have a facebook account), my most recent employer requires me to have a LinkedIn profile. Moreover, a lot of tech firms won't even consider you if they can't find you on LinkedIn. It's a horrible site, but unfortunately everybody expects you to play the game.

    1. Re:Linkedin is no better than Facebook by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 2

      . . . my most recent employer requires me to have a LinkedIn profile. Moreover, a lot of tech firms won't even consider you if they can't find you on LinkedIn. It's a horrible site, but unfortunately everybody expects you to play the game.

      I saw a story in Wired this week about that. I just can't do it, though. I was on LinkedIn for a while, saw no value to it. I really didn't want to know about people that I didn't like in the first place getting promoted. I killed my account a while back. If it hurts my prospects, so be it.

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    2. Re:Linkedin is no better than Facebook by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

      The one thing that makes LinkedIn not quite as bad as Facebook is that what's public on LinkedIn is exactly what you want to be public: Your professional accomplishments.

      By contrast, Facebook wants you to give up information that's regularly stuff I'd want to be kept private, such as the names of all my ex's and exactly what I did with each of them.

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  20. My question is how necessary is LI these days? by nblender · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I still don't have a LI account (nor facebook nor twitter, nor g+)... I'm being told that being on LinkedIn is more or less obligatory if I want to have a reasonable chance of not being ignored by a hiring manager or HR drone. I'm being told this by colleagues and friends, a few of whom are hiring managers. I've been operating under the assumption that my reputation is enough to get me hired (as has been the case for at least 25 years) but what I'm hearing now is that if I don't show up on LinkedIn, my resume gets tossed.. I'm offended by the very idea and like to console myself that I probably don't want to work for anyone who filters resumes this way... Unfortunately, I'm approaching my sunset years and may not be able to afford to restrict my employment opportunities should I suddenly find myself unemployed.

    1. Re:My question is how necessary is LI these days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are recruiters that will toss your resume if they can't find information about you, but not all. I know several younger generation recruiters, including my sister-in-law, and they do use it heavily nowadays.

      However, there is a value to it if you know how to restrict from the features that do not add value. The features that don't add value are individual to you however. I know several people who are involved with small businesses and startups in a marketing function, and many small companies want to know how social media savvy you are, so LinkedIn can be useful there. I'm an operations guy myself, and I have my LinkedIn page mimic my resume pretty closely; it's taking the place of Monster now. In terms of contacts, I add every person that i have met and worked with individually and refuse accepting people whom I've never met face to face; the nice thing there is you can tag them so 2-3 years down the road when you're looking to change jobs or need someone for some random project, you can look up your LinkedIn contacts and remember who you met and why, and there's your opening to call them for their assistance. In addition, if I do an exceptional job I ask someone to write a recommendation for me related to that job; their recommendation is usually glowing when it's near the time I did a great job and yet through LinkedIn it stays forever glowing; I don't have to have them dredge up that review 3-5 years later as a recruiter can already see it. Also, recruiters are now finding me for my LinkedIn resume, which means jobs are coming to me; not that i'm in the market looking but it never hurts.

      I basically use it as an online, organic resume. I keep it up to date with various projects so that way when I'm looking to position myself for a promotion or a job change, it's already up to date. That matters to me because I'm in my early 30's and have decades of work ahead of me; for someone in the latter part of their career perhaps not so much, but it's worth looking into to see how you can utilize it.

    2. Re:My question is how necessary is LI these days? by Micahsa · · Score: 2

      I was contacted by a recruiter specifically due to my LI profile. We talked, she connected me with the HR manager at the firm I'm at now, and when I asked about sending in a resume the HR manager responded "we have your LinkedIn profile which looks pretty current. Just update that if there's something else we should know."

      I was hired with 30 days.

      So for all the talk of spam and such, I am religious about updating my profile, accomplishments, and ensuring my network includes those who would be beneficial in a professional sense.

  21. LI isn't that bad! by flarb936 · · Score: 2

    I use LinkedIn like I used to use Plaxo--for an up to date contact list. Whenever I get someone's business card, I add them on LinkedIn and throw the card away. I don't see what the big deal is. I set the email prefs so LI never emails me ever, so it doesn't bug me. I will say I've accidentally sent out a lot of invites to random strangers because if you browse the "the people you may know" list on the iPad you can easily accidentally tap a profile instead of swiping to scroll which sends an invite out.

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  22. LinkedIn is Creepier than Facebook by Sir+Holo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've had a LinkedIn account for a decade or so. During most of that time, it was just a place to post my CV details, and to "link" to other professionals that I know. No longer.

    Now, when I go to LinkedIn, they suggest numerous people as "People You May Know." Fine, let's take a look:

    * my psychiatrist (who even knows that I have one!?!)
    * the guy who painted my condo five years ago
    * an ex-roommate from 11 years ago
    * an acupuncturist who I used three times, in another city, eight years ago
    * a casual acquaintance from 10 years ago (who may have sent me an invite)
    * someone whose only connection to me is a one-time dance, and is a "FB friend." No emails between us
    * a guy I shared an office with, but who was a jerk, so we never exchanged emails
    * a guy who formerly lived in my condo complex
    * a guy who was the grad-school advisor of a former workplace colleague, but whom I never socialized with
    * a researcher at another lab, who I have only ever talked to once, and have never emailed
    * a years-ago dance instructor whom I only ever contacted twice, via phone
    * a guy whom I co-authored a single scientific paper with years ago, and emailed only once
    * various students who have taken my courses
    * a woman who worked at the same company I worked at, but whom I never had an email contact with (outside of the company's proprietary and encrypted Lotus Notes system)
    * a former program manager at a lab I formerly worked at, 10 years ago, whom I only interacted with in person (no email)
    * another guy I co-authored a journal article with, but never contacted by email outside my former employer's encrypted LotusNotes email system
    * my former accountant
    * a former frat brother, from 15 years ago, whom I have never emailed
    * various program managers at national funding agencies whom I have contacted in the past via phone/email
    * several former colleagues that I never emailed, but had only verbal contact with, from a lab 12 years ago
    * a professor whom I emailed only once, 12 years ago regarding a postdoc position, but never met
    * the son of a former colleague, who I ever only heard about in lunch conversation, and never interacted with
    * a roommate from 10 years ago
    * a prof I took an undergrad course from 19 years ago
    * lots of profs and researchers whom I know professionally and personally, but whom I have never emailed
    * plus lots of false hits...

    Very creepy, and really, in a couple of cases violating HIPPA regulations through their disclosure of who-knows-whom.

    Where are they mining? People's email address books, certainly. But probably also my bank, author lists on publications, speaker lists at conferences, and perhaps people who simply look up my profile.

    Too creepy. I will soon cancel my LinkedIn account, and just make a website bearing my name (I already own the domain), so that people can find me without all of this creepy gray-zone crap.