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Hyundai's Flying Car Flies For an Audience

garymortimer writes "Not many garages would work with Hyundai's hexadecagon. Showcasing at the 2013 IDEAs festival, the manned 16 rotored multirotor looks rather dodgy! Well done to them though for making it fly." It's just one of many crazy looking ideas in this video.

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  1. Man was not meant to fly in a car. by For+a+Free+Internet · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only truly flying animals are turtles. Turtles soar gracefully and have super multidirectional turbothrusters with hover capability. Birds are just kludges combining parts of slugs, fish, and squirrels, and they are graceless and inoperable, compared to the almighty turtles. Needless to say, man, which a species of Dog, does not know how to fly without the aid of turtle, so this is just another episode of Hyundai Hubris. Things would be better after a revolutionary reunification of Korea that sweeps out the parasitical chaebol like Hyundai and its phony "flying cars"! DEFEND NORTH KOREA!!!!!

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    1. Re:Man was not meant to fly in a car. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

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    2. Re:Man was not meant to fly in a car. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

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      Shell
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    3. Re:Man was not meant to fly in a car. by xerxesVII · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      How is this scored 0?

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    4. Re:Man was not meant to fly in a car. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this scored flamebait?

  2. Just in time... by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    2015 is just around the corner. Anyway, not sure how good will look a DeLorean with one of those.

  3. Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Innovative, obvious buy in from the company employee's, teamwork. I say, well done. Who cares is any of these idea's are market ready. It's the creativity that will pay off in the end...

    1. Re:Excellent by alphatel · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think you mean "Eggcellent" in regards to the man driving an egg with a clear shell helmet.

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    2. Re:Excellent by swalve · · Score: 2
    3. Re:Excellent by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      For the record, I know of at least one recorded case where a young guy driving a bike got killed by hitting a wire stretched between two trees across the road at high speed. He basically broke his wind pipe.

      The wire was hanged by local festival organizers to block the road, and apparently they didn't mark it clearly enough for someone traveling at high speed in the dark to see. There have also been some cases of local young kids' stupid fad being stretching a rope across walkways where bicycle travel often happens. Though that is usually low enough not to hit driver's neck.

      Regardless, I can see that kind of helmet being actually useful. It may not be comfortable enough though, especially at high speeds with significant downforce it would likely create.

  4. "Flying car" is a stretch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That's no flying car... it's not even a "roadable aircraft."

    This is a flying car.

    1. Re:"Flying car" is a stretch by SternisheFan · · Score: 2

      Why is it every time someone says flying car, it's never like The Jetsons? As far as I'm concerned, anything less than an actual Jetsons car is false advertising.

    2. Re:"Flying car" is a stretch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is it every time someone says computer, it's never like in science fiction? As far as I'm concerned, anything less than an actual speaking intelligent computer is false advertising.

      Or, perhaps our misguided expectations doesn't magically redefine what something is.
      Flying cars have existed since hot air balloons, the expression is not more specific than that.

    3. Re:"Flying car" is a stretch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's just a hot air balloon. Now this is a flying car.

    4. Re:"Flying car" is a stretch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer this model.

    5. Re:"Flying car" is a stretch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for your comment, now it's time for you to return to your abstract tower of ivory. Who said a Philosophy degree is useless?

  5. link to original source by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

    The linked post is just a low-information reblog of this article and its embedded video.

    1. Re:link to original source by Walzmyn · · Score: 2

      And the video is damned useless. It jumps around so quick you can't even figure out what half the stuff is and offers no explanation.

    2. Re:link to original source by donaldm · · Score: 1

      Yes the video does jump around however I did like the egg shaped vehicle (cute but impractical) however most of the stuff shown would never make it to the market. Still it looks like many of the people including the spectators had allot of fun.

      I am afraid the concept of a flying car is still way off in the future or in Sci-Fi since you would have to have two major leaps in technology, the first being a flying car that is relatively small, manoeuvrable and economical and second you would need a county wide flight management system that would be orders of magnitude over the current flight management system for commercial and private aircraft. At the moment it is still more cheaper and practical to have a ground based transport system in all major cities of the world.

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  6. 2013 IDEAs festival? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

    How come in the video, it says 2012 IDEAs Festival everywhere?

    I think we're seeing old ideas here. Interested in seeing this year's though; some interesting devices created there.

    1. Re:2013 IDEAs festival? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How come in the video, it says 2012 IDEAs Festival everywhere?

      I think we're seeing old ideas here. Interested in seeing this year's though; some interesting devices created there.

      i was just coming to ask the same thing. glad i'm not the only one to notice.

    2. Re:2013 IDEAs festival? by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      maybe it's because korea in on the other side of the international date line? XD

  7. Better Link by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

    Here

    The money shot starts at 2:50 and lasts all of 7 seconds.

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    1. Re:Better Link by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thanks. I got about 90 seconds into the video and saw absolutely nothing of interest.

      My standard advice for anybody wanting to show me a video: edit it to half its length. Sight unseen, knowing nothing about you, I know that you're going to be too attached to the sound of your own authorial voice. It sounds like in this case that advice needed to be given 3 or 4 times.

    2. Re:Better Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My standard advice.. blah, blah, blah...

      tl, dr.

  8. no flying cars, please by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    no flying grandmothers nor rednecks nor tech-distracted either, all of which would be as annoying as flying opossums.

    1. Re:no flying cars, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you even trying to make sense?

    2. Re:no flying cars, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. The flying car is the least interesting thing in this video.

      The Eggway and Longbike are much more fun.

    3. Re:no flying cars, please by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

      If an when there is a flying car, you can expect multi-tier licensing, say, starting with one tier that lets you tell your car where you want to go, and the car's autopilot takes you there, up to fully autonomous piloting, which would be hard to get and even harder to keep. "Throw trash out the car window? That's a groundin'. Flyin' in and out of flight corridors? That's a groundin'. Fly your car straight into the ground? Oh, you better believe that's a groundin'."

      .

  9. Dodgy? by petteyg359 · · Score: 1

    Looks more Hyunadiy to me...

  10. More Lift by genocism · · Score: 2

    It's not a car or a plane and it can only lift a mannequin. It's cool but certainly doesn't push the boundaries of what's been done in the past.

    1. Re:More Lift by Flozzin · · Score: 2

      Agreed. I expected to see a car that flies. I figured it was another car-airplane hybrid. But no, we have 6 fans blowing downward and it's wobbly as hell. I believe the US Military did the same crap in the 1960's. Congratulations!

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    2. Re:More Lift by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      The "wobbly as hell" is a control system problem. Engines don't react in real time, so you've got to be proactive to balance the lift and keep it level. Seems to me this would be a much easier problem with only 4 rotors.

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    3. Re:More Lift by donaldm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Agreed. I expected to see a car that flies. I figured it was another car-airplane hybrid. But no, we have 6 fans blowing downward and it's wobbly as hell. I believe the US Military did the same crap in the 1960's. Congratulations!

      Actually it was the British that developed the "Flying Bedstead" in 1953/4.

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    4. Re:More Lift by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      Avro also had a "flying saucer" that they did for the US Military.

      From the docudrama: "and we're developing a flying saucer!"

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    5. Re:More Lift by gweilo8888 · · Score: 1

      Which never got more than a handful of feet off the ground. That, to put things in perspective, is not even a quarter of its own width. And just as I'm guessing is the case with this, it wasn't capable of getting out of ground effect.

    6. Re:More Lift by Lussarn · · Score: 1

      Agreed. It's also a dead end since a flying vehicle carrying people needs to be able to land with engine failure. Well, not the V22 Osprey, but every other type of aircraft. This type of aircraft will not auto rotate, and will never be deemed safe.

    7. Re:More Lift by Goaway · · Score: 1

      Quadcopters can easily get out of ground effect. They don't do it here for safety reasons, most likely.

    8. Re:More Lift by iksbob · · Score: 1

      I would blame it on the control system and the engineering of the vehicle. I don't think the number of rotors is a big issue... each cluster of 4 props could be operated in unison, making the control system see it as a quad-copter.
      Smaller electric multi-rotor aircraft run into the same stability limitations to a lesser degree, but it can be compensated for with an appropriate set of PID variables. The issue is the mass of the rotating assembly vs. the torque available to accelerate it. Electric motors have gobs of torque, so it's not as big an issue.
      Internal combustion engines have 3 methods of boosting torque. Increase piston stroke (the length of the crankshaft throw, increasing leverage), increase piston bore (the diameter of the piston, which increases surface area on which the expanding air/fuel mixture presses) - both of which increase the displacement and overall size & weight of the engine - and finally, increase the pressure of the expanding air/fuel mixture by increasing the compression ratio of the engine and/or moving to forced induction. All of those options have tradeoffs in terms of weight, reliability, mechanical complexity and cost.
      The best solution would probably be to use an engine tuned to operate at a specific RPM and move to variable-pitch props. Rather than change the speed of the props and face the associated acceleration lag, simply increase or decrease the pitch of the prop to achieve the desired level of thrust.

    9. Re:More Lift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best solution would probably be to use an engine tuned to operate at a specific RPM and move to variable-pitch props. Rather than change the speed of the props and face the associated acceleration lag, simply increase or decrease the pitch of the prop to achieve the desired level of thrust.

      If you did that, it would be more like a helicopter than a car!

    10. Re:More Lift by gweilo8888 · · Score: 1

      I'm well aware that quadcopters can get out of ground effect; I own two. However, I'd wager the reason they don't do it here has more to do with a) weight issues, if the dummy is supposed to have similar weight to the average human, and b) control issues, because once they get out of ground effect handling that many props and balancing the craft is going to be a doozy.

  11. How is that a car? by kwerle · · Score: 1

    And not a helicopter or whathaveyou?

    1. Re:How is that a car? by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 1

      Righto. All the Slashdot stories I've read about flying cars turn out to be prototypes for vehicles that look more like a helicopter or a VTOL jet plane. So what's to prevent somebody putting some road-worthy wheels on an airship or rocket and calling that a flying car?

      My idea of a flying car is a car that lifts off the ground for longer than an action movie chase scene and looks no weirder than the Batmobile in default configuration. I'll cut some slack for Transformer-like vehicles that can change modes.

    2. Re:How is that a car? by Cenan · · Score: 1

      Flying cars are a dead end science as long as these gimps insist on mechanical-only propulsion. If, and that's a big if, they ever get this piece of crap to do more than just hover with a doll on top, they'll still have to solve a bunch of other problems.
      Like designing a rotor that won't indiscriminately cut pedestrians in a billion pieces and then crash to the ground face-first. And a whole host of other malfunctions that will also make this hovering bathtub crash face-first.

      Cancelling gravity with the help of a rotor has been around for almost a hundred years (wiki says 1936), scratching that and doing it all over with a car as a base is just trolling for funding.

      A much better approach would be to think of a way of cancelling gravity without whirling blades or rotatable flame throwers, and would probably be much easier to swallow when the relevant agencies has to approve it for common use.

      I mean, the legendary flying car is still supposed to fix the rush hour traffic problem yeah?

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  12. Re:Impersonation warning... apk by qbitslayer · · Score: 0

    Very funny. ahahaha...

  13. Already done. by jcr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A group of German engineers did this a couple of years ago.

    http://e-volo.com/

    -jcr

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    1. Re:Already done. by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Electric?!? What's the range, a couple hundred feet before the battery goes dead? There are rotax engines that barely have the power-to-weight ratio necessary to make this work, but even then you don't have enough payload capacity to carry any decent amount of fuel. So it's only good for short flights for small people. But then jet packs are only good for a 60-second flight. Need a lot more range to make them useful and safe.

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    2. Re:Already done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had one of those, but it got stuck in a tree. Maybe now that it's spring, I can get a long pole and knock it down.

    3. Re:Already done. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      Yes, the German one looks a lot more impressive, with a real person in it (piloting using the remote control) rather than a mannequin.

  14. Research & Development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad to see that Korean car companies have money for some R&D. Here car manufacturers are more "efficient". Haven't Koreans ever heard of "efficiency"? In newspeak, it means "moving car manufacturing jobs to Korea".

    Signed: Anonymous, because we have many Korean customers (and I absolutely respect their efficiency and their 18-hour day commitment to work, I wish I could find it in me to be so committed, but our welfare system is making me lazy).

  15. Not a hexadecagon by tirerim · · Score: 1

    Is Hyundai actually calling it that, or was that name just invented by some random person who has forgotten high school geometry? It doesn't have 16 sides, more like 4. You could call it a hexadecacopter, but hexadecagon has an existing meaning, and it's not this.

    1. Re:Not a hexadecagon by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      Naming things based on shape names is ridiculous anyway.

      Recently I built a hierarchical tree structure to organize a huge 2D tile-based world such that it could be easily sharded and scaled.
      Similar approaches of spacial partitioning are: Binary Trees (2 children per node -- 1 axis), Quadtrees (4 children per node, 2 axes), and Octrees (8 children per node, 3 axes). To reduce bandwidth requirements and run-time, instead of multiple levels of Quadtrees each level of the tree has 256 more nodes...

      I'm not calling it a damn dihectapentacontakaihextree!

  16. Flying car? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2

    There is no flying car there. All I see is a muti-rotor platform, lifting a mannikin. A scaled-up Parrot AR.

    Whoopdi freakin do.

    1. Re:Flying car? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I'd be a lot more impressed if they trusted it enough to carry a real payload and didn't just fly it by remote control. I believe we now have engine technology with a power-to-weight ratio that would make a quad rotor capable of lifting a human possible, but the power is pretty close to the edge and the control systems are difficult to make safe. So it is theoretically possible to make one, but since it would cost about $100 million to develop and the liability issues would prevent you from ever getting any return on investment, nobody is going to do it.

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    2. Re:Flying car? by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      There is no flying car there. All I see is a muti-rotor platform, lifting a mannikin. A scaled-up Parrot AR. Whoopdi freakin do.

      Yeah, and how can they even consider a man removing the tire from a car, then slapping it on a bicycle and using the stored energy to motor away on "flying" at all is beyond me. That driving centipede thing was totally land based too -- It practically CRAWLED up stairs!

      Hell, the compact transforming motorcycle thing and mobile tea-cup ride were barely even aerodynamic! None of the vehicles even have wings! One was just a Guy in a Plastic Bubble! It's a travesty to call this a new line of flying cars!

      Oh, wait, they didn't call it that... It's just a bunch of folks competing to make the most FUN, and innovative personal transportation systems they can think of -- Yep, flying quadrotor was actually the least interesting, IMO, but someone had to do that one, eh?

  17. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by SternisheFan · · Score: 0

    Thanks, that looks like some exce-e-elent reading material. So if we conquer our lack of understanding of energetic particles, the skys the limit (and more)! Tie-fighters that really could turn on a dime. I will devour this website later tonight. :^)

  18. big whoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so they welded 4 quadrotor helicopters together - big deal! nothing to see here, move along please

  19. Andre Franquin was a visionary by chthon · · Score: 1

    This thing reminds me of the vehicles of Zorglub.

  20. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Physicists will have to seriously retrace their steps to figure out where they went wrong because they will need to fully grok the nature of motion to solve this problem. Only a full understanding of motion can reveal that we are moving in a vast ocean of motive power, an immense lattice of energetic particles. ...
    You don't understand motion even if you think you do.

    Okay... you first. What's stopping you from demonstrating your full understanding, Louis?

  21. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by qbitslayer · · Score: 0

    Understanding does not grow on trees and knowledge can sometimes be sweet as honey in the mouth but sour and bitter in the stomach. Besides, patience is an undervalued virtue. You only get a sniff for now, if you know what I mean.

  22. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "They're wrong. I don't know how, but they're wrong." Okay then.

    Bluffing is only advisable when you're sure the other player won't call. If you've got a winning hand, let's see it.

    You don't understand science even if you think you do.

  23. How to make a flying car, in 3 easy steps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    1. Find a helicopter.
    2. Call it a car.
    3. Profit.

    1. Re:How to make a flying car, in 3 easy steps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Asian "innovation" in a nutshell.

      The world is fucked if these guys take over

  24. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no such thing as trees. You made them up.

    Goddamn liar.

  25. Signature by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 1

    It's all in the signature, been there for a while too....

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  26. Ground effect and battery life by gweilo8888 · · Score: 1

    And it can only lift a mannequin when it's in ground effect. I'd be willing to bet it's not actually capable of getting out of ground effect, let alone flying for any meaningful distance.

  27. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by wagnerrp · · Score: 1

    You only get a sniff for now, if you know what I mean.

    Do you mean the person who came up with this shit was huffing glue?

  28. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by qbitslayer · · Score: 0

    Oh, I know alright. But this is my show, I make the rules and I say you're not worthy to receive this knowledge. Not yet. :-D

  29. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heh. Not even a pair of 2's.

    Just as I thought... ya got nothin'. :)

  30. The Flying Pulpit by tobia.conforto · · Score: 1

    Posting this because too few people know about it.

    There is such a thing as a personal flying device, it has existed since the 70s. It's called the Williams X-Jet or WASP (Williams Aerial Systems Platform), and also known as the Flying Pulpit.

    Here's a video and its Wikipedia page. Other videos: one, two, three, four.

    It's basically a manually controlled 3D Segway in the way it operates. You just lean in the direction you want it to move and adjust the power output. There's a separate control for yaw (turning left and right) because you can't do that by leaning in some direction (just like the one in the Segway) and that's it.

    I won't go into a political tangent, but you've got to ask yourself why it's not being sold to the public. Even if it cost a lot (which I don't think it would: a small jet turbine is not that expensive), I'm sure there would be enough rich people interested in buying one.

    1. Re:The Flying Pulpit by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      There is such a thing as a personal flying device, it has existed since the 70s. It's called the Williams X-Jet or WASP
      .........
      I won't go into a political tangent, but you've got to ask yourself why it's not being sold to the public..

      I love these conspiracy theories ! Unless you are extremely rich yourself you are never going to have one of these, so why get so hot under the collar about it ? I don't know where to start with the problems this WASP raises. Here are some :-

      1) Using a jet engine's thrust for all your lift (as opposed to wings or a rotor) is horribly inefficient. What mileage did this thing get, and what range?

      2) There is no escape from engine failure or even slight malfunction. Leading to :

      3) As TFA talks about "use in congested cities across the globe" (not the open country in your videos) the effect of one of these coming down would be catastrophic. Leading to :

      4) If they are to make any difference to that congestion, there are going to be enough of them above a city to have high risk of collisions (OK, let's just leave them to very rich people). leading to :

      5) How will the pilots be trained and qualified? While the controls might be "easy" (just leaning) there are still the matters of traffic discipline, lapses of concentration, maintaining the things, going beyond your capablities - you know, the things that cause most road accidents, but will be even more catastrophic.

      6) Out of town, if they get there, setting fire to forests and crops.

      7) Noise. Where I live there is already enough racket from motorbikes and microlights. These flying pulpits will spread their even greater noise, and being above any screening, over a far wider area. It is telling that in the videos the noise was replaced by soft music (or a commentator against a background that sounded like a school hall - odd).

      They sound ideal for the military - like a very short-range-parachute drop but with greater accuracy. A lot more expensive than a parachute though - only for very special operations perhaps.

  31. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by In+hydraulis · · Score: 1

    He got a laugh.

    For what little it's worth, so did I.

    Well played, qbit!

  32. GEMA, again by Kam+Solusar · · Score: 1

    Great! A video of a flying car! But nooooo.... "Unfortunately, this UMG-music-content is not available in Germany because GEMA has not granted the respective music publishing rights."

    FUCK YOU GEMA! FUCK YOU ALL TO HELL!

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    1. Re:GEMA, again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not missing anything worthwhile. It's an extended video that contains a 7-second clip of an outsized remote-control quadracopter. It's a "flying car" that neither flies (it never makes it out of ground effect) nor is a car (it lands on four wheels, but it isn't able to drive on them).

  33. All good and fine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but how's the air-brake technology coming along with these things?

  34. Re:Jeremiah Cornelius: Grow up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's actually a /. admin - it's a very lame marketing ploy. Kind of a morons interpretation of Freakanomics, if you have a "personality" it gives something for your users to talk about, as they talk it will pique the interest of outside people. Eventually ./ become a social media success, well, in their minds anyway.

    To the rest of us it just looks insane, but think about it, why hasn't the idiot been banned?

  35. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, it means you are a moron for not getting the joke.

  36. What's wrong with American companies by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    IMHO, this illustrates what's wrong with American companies on several levels. One: Lots of Asian companies allow their engineers full access to the resources of the company to do proof-of-concept competitions. In general, American companies don't. Two: Lots of Asian companies actually make product. Too many American companies are focused on selling services.

  37. Horrible video by garyzim · · Score: 1

    I have rarely seen camera and editing work that was this bad. Someone got carried away with a new editing software package or something. Besides the ideas being nothing truly special or new (albeit fun to watch them having fun), the continual quick cuts - too fast to get a good look at anything - just gave me a headache. C'mon Hyundai, you're releasing THIS as something you are proud of?

  38. Sigh, my people by Catbeller · · Score: 1

    Americans - their idea of the future is the 1950's, only with smartphones. Like grandpas wearing their fedoras and suit-n-tie, they want to keep on looking like they did when they were young and on top of the world. Cars and freeways, only with faster cars that don't look too silly, that is, that look like something that they grew up with.

    A multi-rotor platform, with a little work, *is* a flying car. A flying car will not look like a flying Delorean. It will look like what a flying car will look like. And they'll probably pop up in African countries and Japan first. Cultures that aren't wedded to their own past glories.

  39. Not Dodgy... by msobkow · · Score: 1

    Hyundai. :P

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  40. Flying car after Xzibit gets done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard you like quad-copters, so I put quad-copters on your quad-copter so you can quad while you quad.

  41. But this is a waste by MickLinux · · Score: 1

    FWIW, the design limitations on a car (has to be able to handle collisions well, needs to be compact to fit the road, needs to handle ground drag well, visual range appropriate for a ground vehicle) and an aircraft (has to be lightweight, visual ability for 3-D awareness, needs to handle front drag well) conflict so badly as to make a flying car horrible at both jobs.

    Which, in turn, means that the engineers forgot to do the most basic engineering: examination of the performance requirements and envelope.

    So the ones playing with this project can't are maybe managers, but ... this is a waste.

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    1. Re:But this is a waste by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

      The intent of the competition is to turn ideas into working models, not actual product. The goal being to allow the designers and engineers some freedom from the day-to-day grind. Maybe once in a while something they come up with has potential. And certainly they all learn a lot during the process which is useful when working on real product. My point is that most American companies don't encourage this. 3M is one exception and they have incorporated technical "screwing around" into their business model. Sadly, the US economy is more focused on offering services rather than tangible products. The thinking is something like this: "Look! We get to charge people $29.95 a month (plus various and sundry fees and surcharges) for some service that the customer may never use! And we can enforce things like a minimum 2-year contract and oh, btw, that $29.95 is an introductory rate which we'll increase exponentially."

    2. Re:But this is a waste by MickLinux · · Score: 1

      I suggest you read The Tipping Point. There is more to 3M than allowing their engineers to play games.

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    3. Re:But this is a waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My point is that 3M allows them the time to experiment and they don't tell them "That isn't in your job description". As a veteran of a Fortune 500 company in Southern California, I was often told that. And I was often given busy-work tasks the results of which nobody really cared about. That company's management was all about politics. The people doing the real work in the department regularly begged for training on the software programs they used daily e.g. Quark, Photoshop, Illustrator, MS Office. What they were given was "team" training. In reality, the management decided that if they gave them what they wanted, they could take those new skills elsewhere. And you weren't allowed to have office furniture that was, shall we say, above your pay grade. It didn't matter if it was practical for doing your job. I thought the practice was bizarre until I saw the recent documentary about Fairchild Semiconductor. That company behaved in the same manner and they borked themselves. As fate would have it, the department I worked for no longer exists.

  42. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by MindStalker · · Score: 1

    Come-on people. This guy isn't a troll. He really believes these theories. Here him out. Things don't "move" all things jump at light speed from subatomic sized grid sector to grid sector, something moving slow simply has more pauses between jumps than something that moves fast. Also there is a force that keeps things moving, things don't naturally want to keep moving, they want to stop, immediately into their spot. This special force is going to be explained, as soon as the blog poster decides to continue his series that he abruptly stopped writing 4 years ago. But trust me, it will be explained!

  43. what about the mMoller Skycar? by multicsfan · · Score: 1

    Guess Hyundai hasn't heard of the Moller flying car:
    http://youtu.be/rgjug_0OAF0 youtube video.

    http://moller.com/dev/ company website.

    still in R&D but getting closer.

  44. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Fuck me, you're a loony.

    I had a quick look, and love all the "in time all will be revealed" bollocks. You're a less obviously schizophrenic version of the Time Cube guy. I might have missed it but I didn't see any "ha! they laughed at Newton/Einstein" remarks.

    If you are genuinely mentally ill rather than just a fucking whackball, I apologise, and hope you get medical help soon.

  45. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...said the sock puppet.

    Louis doesn't have any theories. All he has are poorly-thought-out objections to his strawman version of relativity and other physics he fails to understand.

  46. Re:"Flying car" is absurd by MindStalker · · Score: 1

    I think you missed my obvious sarcasm.