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No Porn From Public WiFi Hotspots In the UK Proposed

whoever57 writes "Prime Minister David Cameron is proposing that porn should not be available through WiFi hotspots in public areas. Exactly how this will be implemented has not been identified, even to the extent of whether the ISP or the hotspot operator should implement the blocking. From the article: ' The Prime Minister said: “We are promoting good, clean, WiFi in local cafes and elsewhere to make sure that people have confidence in public WiFi systems so that they are not going to see things they shouldn’t.” His intervention comes after a long-running campaign from children’s charities to ensure a blanket ban on unacceptable sites on public WiFi networks.'"

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  1. Does that include Women Porn? by mozumder · · Score: 4, Funny

    Like People Magazine and fashion sites?

    1. Re:Does that include Women Porn? by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Funny

      It'll be much simpler just to ban children from cafes.

      They've got no business drinking coffee at their age anyway.

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    2. Re:Does that include Women Porn? by Fluffeh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously, this belongs in the "clueless idiots want to control something they have no right to control..." basket.

      Sometimes I think that the world has a chance of evolving in the right direction when insightful or intelligent laws are passed, but for each of those moments, I seem to have at least a dozen facepalm or forehead-table moments.

      If a cafe owner finds that many of his/her customers are turning away to other cafes because there are too many folks holding coffee in one hand and their other hand is under the table - shouldn't it be up to them to install some sort of blocklist/filtering software? Why the fuck does it have to be a government mandated, nay regulated, nay again, state policed offence to NOT have this set up?

      I am all for libertarianism, but with a touch of ethics and morals thrown in - I want people to be able to do whatever they want, and sincerly hopethat they will do the right thing - but if they choose to have effectively a red-light-district cafe, then they should be able to - hopefully ina red light district part of town. There MUST be some point where common sense kicks in with capitalism surely. You have a cafe, in the center of three primary schools, politely ask folks watching porn to move on as they are disrupting your normal business of soccer moms. Oh, you don't want a dingey establishment in the first place, okay, ask anyone watching risque content to move on if anyone notices. And if no-one does, who the fuck is it harming?

      I really want to beat some common sense into idiot meddling politicians trying to force their public policies down the throats of others with a really big hard, solid, heavy stick - with nails in the end of it. There is a difference between making laws that prohibit unsafe buildings, or fire hazzards or man-eating-star-wars-type-desert-creatures and trying to ban anything that the politician doesn't want to admit to or show that he/her is doing in public from being an offence.

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  2. Porn is bad and dirty by loufoque · · Score: 4, Funny

    You definitely shouldn't see it!
    We, the British government, will protect you from this bane.

    1. Re:Porn is bad and dirty by telchine · · Score: 4, Funny

      We, the British government, will protect you from this bane.

      The British Government can go suck my **** !

      (just so long as they don't watch the recording over public wi-fi)

    2. Re:Porn is bad and dirty by Rufty · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ban the "hacker tool" linux :-(

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  3. Wrong question by ruir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who exactly is paying/or promoting this? This seems to be a shady manoeuvre to put out free competitions to ISP.

  4. No technical solutions for social problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In general, you shouldn't try to solve social problems with technical solutions.

    And in this case, it's not even possible unless you also forbid encryped sessions, which would mean people can't access their VPNs. And nobody in his right mind would surf from a public hotspot without a VPN or at least an SSL/TLS encrpyted session.

    And as if that's not enough proof for you: a determined person can still use steganography to embed an encrypted stream inside a regular port 80 HTTP session. Therefore you cannot prevent people from accessing porn over public wifi. All you can do is make it more inconvenient for everyone to browse securely.

    Conclusion: You can't stop it, so don't even try.

  5. What a great use of money by PhamNguyen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    His intervention comes after a long-running campaign from children’s charities to ensure a blanket ban on unacceptable sites on public WiFi networks.

    Because when I donate money to a children's charity, that's exactly what I'm hoping the money will be spent on. Think of all the children saved by these campaigns.

  6. Re:Guess he has never heard of VPN and proxies by tonywestonuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I dont think they care, about VPN or proxies. If you have these, then you're obviously old and wise enough to be able to look at whatever you want, whenever you want.

    This is about minors, kids, who end up getting porn on there phones/tablets by accident, while looking for something innocent.

  7. Re:Define pornography by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Informative

    Define it first you Socialist prick!

    Whatever kind of prick David Cameron is, it's not a socialist one, genius.

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  8. Re:wtf, mate? by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Informative

    What the hell does the UK government have against porn? This is the second time they've tried to ban it.

    I think you'll find that a large proportion of the UK population would agree that porn in public is a bad thing. We still cover up "top shelf" magazines in newsagents so you can't see the boobs. It wasn't until the advent of widespread internet access that any sort of hardcore porn was legal here. (I assume they just gave up at that point).

    Supporting porn is not a vote winner here.

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  9. Re:People In Glass Houses... by Cenan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As apparent from 50+ years of foreign policy fail, I'd say it is about time to abandon the meme that everything can be solved with guns and enough boots on the ground. It didn't work in Korea, It didn't work in Vietnam, it didn't work in Iraq the first time, it didn't work in Iraq the second time, it didn't work in Afghanistan (not even for the Soviets). How is that not sinking in yet? How fucking stupid do you have to be to not get that?

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  10. Re:People In Glass Houses... by TrollstonButtersbean · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Guns and boots on the ground don't solve everything, but dismissing the aggressive approach to aggressive countries is counterproductive.

    Third world countries are generally third world countries because they are prone to uncivilized and backwards politics and agendas.

    If you don't keep an eye on them, they not only will tend to strong arm tactics towards their people, but externalize the source of the problems to first world countries leading to aggression. Like North Korea did little more than a week ago, like Libya once was fond of doing, etc.

  11. Re:It's a Catholiban terrorist dictatorship by shoemilk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Prude much? Or just ignorant of ummm culture? Or just dumb?

    It always comes up, this, in discussions about porn. Sex is normal and healthy. What could be wrong about looking at depictions of a couple engaging in this healthy, normal act.

    And if that's what porn was about, I'd agree. But a great deal of porn is about transgressive acts, and nasty attitudes.

    A great deal of people talking is about transgressive acts and nasty attitudes. Should we ban talking from places? Seriously how is "Pizza's here - open the box to my cock - fucking" worse than two frat boys talking about beating the shit out of someone else or wanting to? Or two girls trash talking another?

    Rape fantasies are common. The notion that "no means yes" is common.

    define "common". If you mean it to be more than 50% umm, then I'd like to see some citation. 30% isn't common. Even then this needs a big fat [citation needed]

    The notion that all women turn into sluts when you scratch the surface.

    Wait, I thought porn was about rape? Which is it?

    Getting pleasure from spitting, slapping and insulting someone (or I guess from being subjected to that).

    People don't need porn for this. People insult other people on a daily basis, if not more. I've seen 5,000 times more slapping on run of the mill TV shows than I have in all the porn I've seen. If you're that offended by spitting, do yourself a favor and never ever go to China. Or hang out near prepubescent boys.

    And of course, body parts of abnormal size.

    Fuck you and your holier-than-thou attitude on how people should look. So some people like fat porn. Oh, wait, you're talking about 18 inch cocks? So what am I not supposed to go outside anymore? Or are you talking about girls with big fake tits? If so, don't watch any sort of South American TV.

    Most adults can tell the difference between fantasy and reality (although, possibly, fewer than you'd hope -- especially when there's the 'gonzo' genre that masquerades as amateur). But children find it more difficult.

    You're so right. We need to get on banning Harry Potter before more children think they're wizards. Non-fiction is hereby banned because kidz iz dumbz.

    So we have boys growing up with these unpleasant ideas about what it's OK to do to women, and girls growing up with these harmful ideas of what society expects of them.

    From porn?! Men beat their wives because they watch PORN?! Girls have weight issues because they watched PORN?! You're dumb and so are the retards that modded you insightful.

    (I'm talking about hetero porn, because that's what experience I have).

    I have experience with it all and well, I can tell you 95% doesn't have any of the shit you've been spouting in it. Except for that German stuff. Freaky~!

    Sure, there *is* porn in which two people are mutually attracted and have mutually enjoyable, considerate sex.

    You mean like most of it?

    But it's not all that common,

    Inconceivable! You keep using that word, but I don't think it means what you think it means.

    and consumers tend to shift up to something more interesting (i.e. more extreme and transgressive).

    Umm, you're full of it. I've got over 20+ years of pron watching experience and I'm not into BDSM, skat, snuff, beast, or anything more than guy-meets-girl guy-fucks-girl. Hell, I'm not even fond of anal. People like what they like. They don't start liking shit because they're bored. Again, you are stupid.

    I don't know the answer. I'm opposed to censorship. But neither am I dumb enough to say that porn is harmless.

    No, you're just dumb. I'm surprised you didn't say anything in there about going blind or hairy hands. The rest of the drivel you spouted sounds just the same.