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BlackBerry Looking To Quench 'Insatiable Demand' For New Smartphones

DavidGilbert99 writes "BlackBerry is on something of a roll. It finally delivered its BlackBerry 10 platform along with the first smartphone to run the OS, the Z10 in January. This weekend saw the launch of the Q10 and there is an 'insatiable demand' for this smartphone with its physical keyboard, says BlackBerry's UK head Rob Orr."

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  1. Um? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Has the company a question mark?

    1. Re:Um? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Most consumers has a ? about BlackBerry, and the company's future has in ?, and they may even has cheezeburger ?, but I'm not sure if the company has ?.

    2. Re:Um? by robthebloke · · Score: 2

      All gone a bit mad for Sylvester McCoy's Doctor Who?

    3. Re:Um? by gadzook33 · · Score: 4, Funny

      No no, it's a mad lib. Like has the company underpants.

    4. Re:Um? by fellip_nectar · · Score: 3, Funny

      The submitter accidentally the whole summary.

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    5. Re:Um? by NatasRevol · · Score: 4, Funny

      Next week?
      Next year?
      Tomorrow?
      The future?
      A porn star?

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    6. Re:Um? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They'll have problems stealing market share from Windows Phone 8. Microsoft Windows Phone 8 is the best phone I've ever used, slick and professional yet friendly, warm and welcoming. Windows Phone 8 is the phone for me bar none, and it should be the phone for you.

      RIM may make good phones, but why would you buy anything but a Windows Phone 8, it's so clever, so smooth so intuitive and so beautiful!

      Have you tried it yet?

    7. Re:Um? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2

      I too have difficulty stealing things from people who don't have the things I want to steal.

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    8. Re:Um? by mccrew · · Score: 3, Insightful
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  2. has the company... by alphatel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is ? the new !

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    1. Re:has the company... by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2

      He's just trolling now. He must love the attention.

      Dice, do yourselves a favour; Fire all of the "editors" and hire some who are competent. The current batch are borderline literate, or just don't care.

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  3. They've got preorders for BOTH of them? by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

    This is as bad as Microsoft running out of Surface tablets.

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    1. Re:They've got preorders for BOTH of them? by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      But Blackberry is very popular amongst gangsters. Blackberry Messaging is perfect for keeping in touch with the gang, without the police being able to eavesdrop, apparently.

      All the London looting riots of summer 2011 were organised via BBM.

      It may be popular in certain corporations for much the same reason.

    2. Re:They've got preorders for BOTH of them? by narcc · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except it is true. Blackberry can't give away to keys fro BES users because they don't have them. Blackberry offers the only secure solution if you want to keep your messages private, away from authorities.

  4. Blaance Sheets and Cash Flow statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    BBRY is doing quite well. Anyone familiar with balance sheets and cash flow statements knows that BBRY is not near death and has never beeen near death. The companyi s a cash generator. People need to realize this.

    People are startign to realize this. With 30%+ short interest in the stock, a short squeeze is overdue. I bought in at several price points. Lowest being around $8/ share. My only regret is not putting even more money into BBRY at that time.

    1. Re:Blaance Sheets and Cash Flow statements by BonThomme · · Score: 2

      that's not the only regret you're going to have about investing in the past...

    2. Re:Blaance Sheets and Cash Flow statements by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      >{? In fairness I took a look at their stock this morning and, however difficult it is to believe (it really is to me) it has been mostly rising throughout the entire 12 months - the few drops it's had it's recovered from, and those seem to have co-incided with general stock market jitters, not BlackBerry itself per-se.

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    3. Re:Blaance Sheets and Cash Flow statements by Xest · · Score: 2

      Yeah, in all honesty I'm in the camp that there is still some hope for Blackberry, people still underestimate it's presence - it still has more than double the market share of Windows Phone, and it still shifts one Blackberry for every 3 or so iPhones sold which given the volumes Apple sells and the profits they make still allows Blackberry a pretty viable business model.

      I just felt the guy I was originally responding too sounded a little too desperately like he was trying to pump their stock.

      This said, I still think they'd be a far richer company if they focussed on producing Blackberry business integration software for Android and iOS as well as or instead of pursuing their own hardware/OS line. There's a massive amount of money in the software services industry - look at Oracle and IBM, and mobile business integration is still shit and they're best placed to offer it and tie it all up. If they became the defacto standard for business integration for mobile phones again by supporting other platforms they'd be laughing given the explosion in the size of the market in recent years.

  5. finally by slashmydots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This might be one of those times when everyone in the market is pissing people off with features they don't want getting shoved down their throat (a gigantic, fragile screen with an impossible to type on touchscreen) then one company comes in with exactly what people want. We switched from blackberries to Android phones at my business and now we have zero control over them. There's no centralized anything. It's like a free for all. That is not how you run a business phone system. Also, our salesmen hate the phones and Activesync is a pain in the ass.

    Unfortunately, Blackberry's software was memory leaking, server-controlling garbage so hopefully they fixed that this time around. If so, tough and nice to use phones with central control software and easy exchange integration would be lovely. They'll take over the business market instantly.

    1. Re:finally by ArhcAngel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Android talks to exchange though the OWA web API.

      Not if it isn't enabled on the server it isn't! In our organization it's either BES or ActiveSync (for either Android or iOS). You can access OWA from a web browser but the API is locked down so even Outlook can't use it on the company issued laptop.

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    2. Re:finally by mlts · · Score: 2

      For the enterprise, it essentially is a "pick your poison" choice. RIM devices and relatively expensive BES, in return for security [1] that is actually enterprise level. Or go with ActiveSync and relatively little control, other than iOS with its pushed policies. Maybe Windows Phone 8 has usable GPOs.

      It would be nice to have an ability for more Android devices to have partitions separating work stuff from home stuff. With BYOD definitely becoming more common, this will be a great thing for all parties involved, perhaps with dual SIMs to completely separate things.

      [1]: Only Blackberries have the feature to erase themselves if they have not checked in with a server after a period of time, or if an unauthorized SIM card get put in.

  6. Can you blow me where the pampers is? by EmagGeek · · Score: 2

    Slashdot editors need to lay off the weed...

  7. It's really clear. by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Has the company a question mark?

    What he is saying is that the company has finally.

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    1. Re:It's really clear. by TrollstonButtersbean · · Score: 2
      The last sentence of the article is quite appropriate.

      Nobody knows what role Blackberry can fill in the world. But they are making progress getting there.

      Perhaps in the future we will understand their quote unquote "plan".

    2. Re:It's really clear. by brabo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Has the company a question mark?

      What he is saying is that the company has finally.

      I agree with the.

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  8. Physical Keyboard FTW by Bigbutt · · Score: 3, Funny

    Honestly, I have both an Android phone provided by work and an iPhone that I bought and the lack of a physical keyboard has driven me to fling both phones across the room more times that I care to admit (and autocorrect can die in a fire). I have two cracks across the face of my iPhone and am reluctant to upgrade to a new phone just because of the frustration of dealing with the lack of a physical keyboard. I used to have a Blackberry and really liked that it had a physical keyboard.

    [John]

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    1. Re:Physical Keyboard FTW by EmagGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      "(and autocorrect can die in a fire)"

      Autocorrect can be easily disabilities by any on on either plates formed.

    2. Re:Physical Keyboard FTW by Jerry+Atrick · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My HTC G1 is sitting on my desk right now and I miss it's keyboard on my current mobile. However the market voted and Android devices with keyboards more or less vanished.

      I don't believe there are enough of us hard keyboard lovers to sustain a mass market and BB are about to discover that. BB probably already have all the users this might attract.

    3. Re:Physical Keyboard FTW by Skater · · Score: 2

      I've found I'm just as fast and accurate on my BB Bold's physical keyboard as I am with the iPhone and Android keyboards (I use all three regularly - BB is for work, the iPhone is my retired 3GS that I still use for a couple things, the Android is my current phone). But, the physical keyboard on my BB takes up space that could be used for displaying things when I'm not typing, so I much prefer even my 3GS over my current BB. Word on the street is that work is switching from BBs to iPhones this year. I'm hoping it's sooner rather than later, because I don't like the BB at all. (Actually, what I really want is a solution for my Android phone so I don't need two phones at all. But security may prevent that.)

      A separate gripe about the BB: It's picky about its charger. We have a lot of USB chargers we have around the house, since we both have tablets (Android and iOS), there are three or four iPod models floating around, we both have the iPhone 3GS, and my wife has an iPhone 5 while I have an Android phone, plus chargers in the cars, etc. We probably have 20 or 30 chargers, easily, from many different manufacturers - Apple, Samsung, Asus, and other brands. I tried every single charger we have, and I could only find two that will charge the BB - one is the BB-branded charger that came with it that I keep at work, and the other is the Samsung charger that came with my S3 (however, the S3 charges on every standard USB adapter I've tried). It won't even charge off my laptop. Sure, it's a standard connector on the BB phone, but it won't work with an off-the-shelf charger. Jerks.

    4. Re:Physical Keyboard FTW by Necroloth · · Score: 2
      I used to be all for physical keyboards ... preferred to actually press on buttons and can cancel phone calls in my pocket without looking and no accidental swipes or such ... however I did envy the touchscreen users for their much larger displays!

      I had a BB 9105 Pearl and then got myself the Z10 as the Pearl was feeling it's age and I've not looked back since! The Z10 is really easy to use and quick. Typing with the Z10 is amazing - all my friends actually like how you can flick words up and string full sentences with real words rather than some alpha-numberic coded gibberish at great pace.

      One of the reasons I went away from the physical button phone, apart from the larger display, is that I preferred the old-school candybar phone button layout - I can't handle those tiny but full keyboard button layouts! Friends who have them vouch for them but just not for me! Hope BB do well though cos I really think there new range is good.

    5. Re:Physical Keyboard FTW by narcc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      a horrible OS. It's slow, and the native web browser horrible times ten.

      Sorry, are you from the past?

      The browser is demonstrably the best on the market. It even has the best HTML5 support of any browser, scoring higher than every desktop browser. You find that even sites that use Flash or WebGL run smooth.

      As for the OS being slow, you'd be the first reviewer to suggest such a thing.

      I haven't tried BB OS 10 yet.

      Well, that explains it!

  9. Re:Appalling writing, negligible subbing. by cc1984_ · · Score: 3, Funny

    Give them some credit. They were probably writing it on a BlackBerry keyboard.

  10. Free Trade up by mrops · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, looks like you need free upgrades. We did a while back. The new platform manages BB and iOS/Android devices. If you have your BES 5.0 and earlier License CALs lying around, its a free upgrade to their new BES 10.0

    https://enterprise.ecomm.webapps.blackberry.com/caltradeup/home.do

    Considering, going forward you will need to pay a monthly fee and the Trade Up program give you non-expiring licenses, I think its a worthy upgrade even if you don't intend to run BB in long run. At least you will have new CALs if you so choose to continue.

  11. Re:Keyboard isn't a real keyboard by swalve · · Score: 2

    There are two versions. One is a "Torch" style all touch, the other is a "Bold" style with a real BB keyboard.

  12. They've finally reached the step... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...just before Profit!

    1. Re:They've finally reached the step... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2

      Must be using a Windows 8 Phone.....

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  13. Re:Physical keyboard? Really? by swalve · · Score: 2

    The tiny buttons work fine. Our fingers are much more sensitive than a touchscreen. Or something like that. When you hit a touch "key" you are just mashing a circle and the OS has to best-guess which letter you meant. When you type in a BB keyboard, your fingertips can feel the ridges of the different keys and your brain can figure out where to direct the pressure to hit the right one.

    Some people have less pointy fingers than others, and I suspect that's where the preference lies. Pointy fingers can use touch keyboards much easier than less-pointy ones.

  14. Depends on your interpretation of insatiable by scotts13 · · Score: 2

    As in, unable to sate. they built 100, and have 150 customers.

  15. Re:Not really what it says by swalve · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it's two things. One, Blackberry is not "cool". It seemed to be for like one summer when all the celebrities were carrying around Bold 9000s, but besides that, the Blackberry is more tool and less of a toy. So people who want toys hate them. Secondly, for the longest time, Blackberries were old/cheap/broken pieces of shit people got through their work. So everyone hated them because they were reminders of their job sucking.

  16. Re:TFA sounds like part of a shareholder presentat by schnell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    business users are a much better prospect than consumers

    Unfortunately not so much anymore. That is/was BlackBerry's whole problem. Five years ago, smartphones were purely business tools, and "BlackBerry" was a synonym for "smartphone." But after the iPhone arrived, consumers started buying smartphones. Now, not only is the consumer smartphone market bigger than the business market, BYOD behavior is pushing some businesses to accept the user's choice of devices - which is almost invariably not a BlackBerry.

    BlackBerry's current woes all result from a classic strategic mistake - they kept building products to address their core market, then somebody went and changed the market dynamics on them. I remember reading an interview with a RIM engineer about how they laughed when the iPhone was launched. They said "this thing doesn't have a keyboard, battery life isn't great, there's no corporate administration capability built in... who will ever buy it?" They only realized belatedly that the dynamics had changed a couple years later, and then discovered that they were very poorly positioned to meet the new market's needs.

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  17. Why touchscreens beat keyboards on phones by sjbe · · Score: 2

    This might be one of those times when everyone in the market is pissing people off with features they don't want getting shoved down their throat (a gigantic, fragile screen with an impossible to type on touchscreen) then one company comes in with exactly what people want.

    There were many attempts at smartphones with physical keyboards and they were largely rejected. The size of a phone is relatively limited by the practical constraints of portability. If you put a keyboard on it, you have to take away space from something else in the design. Generally speaking a bigger screen is a more useful feature to more people more of the time than a physical keyboard. Most of what a phone it good for does not require much data input. A physical keyboard is wasted space the majority of the time and unlike a screen cannot be used for anything else except typing. Furthermore a physical keyboard cannot be changed to suit the task at hand whereas a touchscreen keyboard can.

    While a touchscreen keyboard does have noteworthy design tradeoffs, they are generally adequate to the task and the gain of a larger screen more than outweighs the drawbacks for most of us. Personally I'll take a bigger screen or a bigger battery over a physical keyboard on my phone anytime. If I really need to do a lot of typing I go find my laptop which is vastly better to type on than any phone. If I need to communicate a large volume of information to someone while on the road I CALL them rather than try to type a long message with a tiny keyboard.

    1. Re:Why touchscreens beat keyboards on phones by pnutjam · · Score: 2

      physical keyboard's on phones will stick around until the people who demand them die off, it shouldn't be too long.

    2. Re:Why touchscreens beat keyboards on phones by Foresto · · Score: 2

      Mostly true, yet for some of us, a physical keyboard is more important than a third day of battery life or 720p video playback. The Sony-Ericsson SK17i (SK17a in North America) did a pretty good job of combining a real keyboard with a compact form factor. I hope someone improves upon that idea in the next year or two.

    3. Re:Why touchscreens beat keyboards on phones by EETech1 · · Score: 2

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  18. Re:Blackberry will live on by mjwx · · Score: 2

    Realize that a lot of iPhone users were once Blackberry addicts, the Q10 might provide the right kind of nostalgia to bring back some of those customers who start to remember how nice it was to use a real physical keyboard rather than the sado-masochistic on screen keyboard experience that Apple offers.

    The thing is...

    And the fanboys are absolutely going to slam me for this.

    is that the OSK on the Iphone is terrible compared to other OSK's. The stock OSK on Android 4.2 is vastly superior to IOS with both traditional typing (hunt and peck for most users) and "swype"-like gesture typing. This is the stock KB, there are alternatives that suit specific typing styles better but the stock is the best KB I've used for speed and a multitude of typing styles.

    The Iphone on the other hand (4s on the last two versions of IOS) had significant typos in almost everything, it was slower and harder to type correct words and significantly harder to go back to correct them. Android handles typo's better and actually learns what mistakes I typically make, the Iphone keeps making the same mistake. For example, I type "no probs" (short for no problems) and Android used to correct it to "no probe", IOS still corrects it to "no probe" and I've switched ROM's twice (and phones once) on Android since then. It always learns in the first 4 or 5 corrections I make.

    Awaiting the inevitable flames (and probably mod downs) for suggesting this.

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