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Campaign Raises Funds To Send Wikipedia Readers To Kids Without Internet

Eloquence writes "Remember the WikiReader? It was pitched as a device that would contain the text of the entire English Wikipedia, and run on two AAA batteries for months. Unfortunately it was sold to the wrong audience: people who already have smartphones, tablets and laptops. At a cost of $20 per device, Aislinn Dewey and Victor Grigas (who works for Wikimedia) are trying to raise funds to buy up the company's inventory and ship WikiReaders to kids in places without Internet connectivity."

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  1. Same kids by Frankie70 · · Score: 2

    ship WikiReaders to kids in places without Internet connectivity.

    There is a good chance that those WikiReaders have probably been assembled by those same kids.

    1. Re:Same kids by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

      And who are also likely illiterate... problems problems.

      Very unlikely. Most electronic assembly is done in China or Vietnam, both of which have 95% literacy rates.

    2. Re:Same kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do people on slashdot feel the need to make points about things of which they have no information?

      It's a web forum.

    3. Re:Same kids by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why do people on slashdot feel the need to make points about things of which they have no information?

      Here is some information: List of Countries by Literacy Rate

      By default the list is sorted in alphabetical order, but you can click on the headers to sort by literacy rate, or by gender-specific literacy rate. Although illiteracy is correlated with poverty, it is even more strongly correlated with religion: Ten of the bottom ten are Muslim. Much of this is because they don't educate many of their girls.

    4. Re:Same kids by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2


      Turkmenistan .... 89% muslim / 98.3% female literacy
      Azerbaijan ...... 93% muslim / 99.9%
      Uzbekistan ...... 88% muslim / 99.6%
      Kazakhstan ...... 70% muslim / 99.3%
      Tajikistan ...... 90% muslim / 99.8%

      All five of these countries were once part of the Soviet Union. They all inherited the Soviet educational system, and the cycle of illiteracy was already broken before they became independent. Literate mothers don't raise illiterate children.


      Burkina Faso ... 60% muslim / 15.2% female literacy
      Chad ........... 53% muslim / 24.2%
      Sierra Leone ... 60% muslim / 24.4%
      South Sudan .... 18% muslim / 16%

      Only South Sudan is not majority Muslim, but it was part of a Muslim majority country up until less than two years ago.

    5. Re:Same kids by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2

      All five of these countries were once part of the Soviet Union. They all inherited the Soviet educational system, and the cycle of illiteracy was already broken before they became independent. Literate mothers don't raise illiterate children.

      OK, still doesn't change the fact that religion is not a determining factor.

      Only South Sudan is not majority Muslim, but it was part of a Muslim majority country up until less than two years ago.

      So? The female illiteracy rates in those countries is far greater than the percentage of muslims. That means within their own communities, the non-muslims are pretty illiterate too.

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    6. Re:Same kids by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 2

      All five of these countries were once part of the Soviet Union. They all inherited the Soviet educational system, and the cycle of illiteracy was already broken before they became independent. Literate mothers don't raise illiterate children.

      That would depend on when the Muslims immigrated to those countries, would it not? Were those countries predominantly Muslim under Soviet rule or did that occur post Soviet rule? If I recall, the Soviets were not fond of letting religion flourish.

      Indonesia, which has the highest concentration of Muslims, has a female literacy rate of 99.38 (2008), and they were not part of the Soviet Union.

      It is far more likely that the poor literacy rates in the countries you mention (Burkina Faso, Chad, Sierra Leone, South Sudan) have more to do with economics and civil war than religion.

  2. Re:.. and why .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Source code is available here:
    https://github.com/wikireader

  3. Re:Not a bad idea but ... by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    I agree the English aspect is likely to limit its usefulness. Although it's getting somewhat more common for kids around the world to be able to read a bit of English.

    There are, in any case, already large Wikipedia versions in some other languages, so they wouldn't have to be translated from scratch. And some of them overlap with languages widely spoken in countries with poor internet access, such as French and Spanish.

  4. This does work by cphilo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There has already been experiments that show that this is a good idea. Children given access to computers/knowledge WILL learn and exceed expectations. http://www.npr.org/2013/05/03/179828483/can-schools-exist-in-the-cloud

  5. Re:Not a bad idea but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hi! when we contacted the manufacturer, he said that any language version thats already available for the WikiReader will be able to be pre-installed, There's several available: http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ he was interested in putting effort into getting any other languages needed as well, including one developed by the UK specifically for classroom education: http://schools-wikipedia.org/

  6. Re:Not a bad idea but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    And some of them overlap with languages widely spoken in countries with poor internet access, such as French and Spanish.

    True, but to avoid any misunderstanding it's probably best to point out that some areas of France are quite well developed - in Paris you could easily think you were in a modern country.

  7. I use my wikireader regularly by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I just need some text from wikipedia, I pick up the wikireader and stab at it and lo, I get it very quickly. I also have wiktionary installed so it does that as well. And I own a mobile phone with wifi and multitouch, so I could use full wikipedia. I can get results from my wikireader while I'm still waiting for the browser to load, in little more time than it takes to wake my phone up and unlock it. It's far and away faster than waking up a netbook and doing the same thing, since the ones I'm using now lack SSD...

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  8. Re:Just what kids need in third-world countries! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    they don't speak English

    Wikipedia is available in many languages besides English.

    live a subsistence life

    People don't choose to live a subsistence life. Information technology can give them other options. Few things have changed life in poor countries more than cellphones. Farmers can check global or regional prices, and know if a village cartel of buyers is ripping them off. They can get information about the weather, crop diseases, fertilizer usage, etc.

    don't have easy access to batteries

    Batteries are available anywhere, and there is a single global standard. A rechargable AAA battery is good for 500 cycles at a cost of less than a cent per cycle.

    cannot read their native language, let alone English.

    Literacy rates are only roughly correlated with poverty. There are some very poor places with surprising high literacy rates.

     

    Yes this is the perfect idea.

    People made the same sarcastic, cynical statements about cellphones a decade ago. I guess criticizing others helps them rationalize their own inaction.

  9. Re:.. and why .. by adri · · Score: 2
  10. Re:.. and why .. by KGIII · · Score: 2

    That's a part of why I mentioned that I'd take five of these devices when the first listing of this article went by earlier today. I'd give a few out to friends but I'd keep something like that in my car or my bathroom to play with. Eventually I'd get bored and want to hack at it. Either way, I'm on board to buy five of them right now if they'll make them and sell them at that price. I'll even pay for ten of them and get five like the OLPC BOGO deal from the past.

    I'd probably give three away and keep two so that I had one to keep as a backup for when I finally started hacking mine. I'd absolutely love a device like this. I know I can have the same thing on my phone and not even have to worry about updating it or the likes. That's hardly the point. As a stand-alone device I can think of lots of times when I'd refer to it, use it, or otherwise enjoy it to the point where I was getting far more than $20 value out of it. I think it would make a great gift item too.

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  11. Re:How about sending them encyclopedias in book fo by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    have you checked the prices on encyclopedias, like, ever? never mind one in swahili.

    do you have any kind of idea how fucking much shipping them would cost?

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  12. Re:WARING: GOATSE LINK by KGIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

    LOL Now that was clever. Anyhow, thanks OP for the post. I think I'm going to grab one to play with. I'd have to donate $250 to get one through the link in the summary. Actually, I'm going to get two of them at that price.

    It makes me wonder if maybe these folks are scamming?

    They say, in the video, that they contacted the manufacturer and that they would be able to get them in bulk for $25 with a "maybe less" caveat.

    The company, themselves it appears, sell that same device for $10 on Amazon and that is buying them one at a time, not in bulk. It would likely be less than $10 if they were buying them in bulk.

    So why are the prices so different? It makes me wonder if they're scamming. It would be unfortunate if they were.

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  13. Re:Yes, spread the false information. by Dwonis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Exactly. People who dismiss Wikipedia because of its inaccuracies often forget about what we usually did *before* Wikipedia existed: We made stuff up based on our intuitions, *maybe* talked about it at a coffee shop with a small number of our friends, and believed it as fact. Sure, if we were doing academic research, we were more rigorous (and that's improved, too, IMHO), but how often did that happen? Now, with portable devices that can access the WWW, our first reponse when we're not sure about something is often to look it up.

    I can't emphasize this enough: Instant access to the web is resulting in a culture shift from making stuff up to looking it up, and Wikipedia is the most important place where people go to do that.

    So, yes, even though Wikipedia is a repository of groupthink (and the critics are right that we mustn't forget that), it's groupthink that takes into account the views of a much larger number of contributors, and is much more accurate than the groupthink of a small, isolated group of people.

  14. Re:WARING: GOATSE LINK by KGIII · · Score: 2

    And, in order to leave a public comment on the donation site you have to have made a donation.

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  15. Re:.. and why .. by backslashdot · · Score: 2

    Not all kids in the world need vaccines (do yours?) some have vaccines & red cross already and don't want a lifetime of dependency. You realize that there is a range of wealth in the world, right? Some people are poor, but not starving.

  16. Re:Not a bad idea but ... by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 2

    I agree the English aspect is likely to limit its usefulness. Although it's getting somewhat more common for kids around the world to be able to read a bit of English.

    There are, in any case, already large Wikipedia versions in some other languages, so they wouldn't have to be translated from scratch. And some of them overlap with languages widely spoken in countries with poor internet access, such as French and Spanish.

    A bigger limit to the usefulness is the amount of inaccurate information on Wikipedia. While the concept is great, there is a lot to be desired given the implimentation.