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Former FBI Agent: All Digital Communications Stored By US Gov't
New submitter davesays writes "CNN anchors Erin Burnett and Carol Costello have interviewed Former FBI Counterterrorisim specialist Tim Clemente. In the interviews he asserts that all digital communications are recorded and stored. Clemente: 'No, welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as we speak whether we know it or like it or not.' 'All of that stuff' — meaning every telephone conversation Americans have with one another on U.S. soil, with or without a search warrant — 'is being captured as we speak.' 'No digital communication is secure,' by which he means not that any communication is susceptible to government interception as it happens (although that is true), but far beyond that: all digital communications — meaning telephone calls, emails, online chats and the like — are automatically recorded and stored and accessible to the government after the fact. To describe that is to define what a ubiquitous, limitless Surveillance State is."
I doubt they have the storage capacity.
Table-ized A.I.
Someone correct me. It just doesn't seem feasible.
Might makes right.
Protip: If you want actual freedom, you need to gain power. And to gain power, you need to align yourself with the powerful.
The question for you is: Which members of our society are more powerful: the socialist statist that aligns themselves with government? or the gun-owning libertarian that doesn't want to be tread on?
Figuring out who is power, and subsequently aligning yourself with that power, is going to be key to your success. Feel free to argue against that.
I really wish people like you could live in an actual shitty country.
Not that America is perfect, but you have no fucking idea what tyranny is.
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Not that America is perfect, but you have no fucking idea what tyranny is.
tyr-an-ny, n.: (source: dictionary.com)
1. arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority.
"All of that stuff is being captured as we speak whether we know it or like it or not."
2. oppressive or unjustly severe government on the part of any ruler.
"meaning every telephone conversation Americans have with one another on U.S. soil, with or without a search warrant -- 'is being captured as we speak.'"
3.undue severity or harshness.
"'No, welcome to America."
Would you care to revise your statement, Mr. Internet Pundit?
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While the FBI might not be the sharpest tool in the shed they have infinite resources thanks to the national security black budget. Granted if you have a private network that doesn't peer with any of the big backbones like AT&T then your a probably safe. Once your voice/data hops onto a major backbone like AT&T your data has been sold to the US Government. There are even allegation that this system is contributing names to the no-fly list through heuristic language analysis of voice traffic. To see if you networks are safe, use the word "bomb" as often as you can and if you aren't added to the no-fly list, your networks are probably safe :)
I think the real solution to the problem is to start generating massive amounts of meaningless data until the spooks run out of storage.
Security and Privacy are an illusion. Welcome to 1984 about three decades late.
Seriously, you mean a data center like this can't handle the traffic?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
and the 5 million people (as of 2011) with security clearances aren't enough?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/07/security-clearances-increasing/
and the NSA recruiting at Defcon and math colleges all around the country isn't happening?
http://www.federalnewsradio.com/411/2890348/NSA-hiring-reforms-serve-as-model-for-government
These guys have cash and are all of their activities are shielded under FISA and the National Security Act and State Secrets Privilege.
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/fix-fisa-end-warrantless-wiretapping
It's happening, it is a reality, and it is more than possible. Even with an inside whistle blower, the courts will not limit the power of the government to spy on us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
The only thing we really have going for us is the Catch-22 on the use of the data. If it is every used in a trial, chain of custody and 4th amendment issues likethe exclusionary rule will suppress the evidence since it was obtained without a warrant. The only thing that stands in the way of the NSA and fully implementing 1984 is the 4th amendment.
We can't 'know' this is false, but . . . we can look at what the implications would be if this were true.
This would require vast storage, incredible database crossreferencing, would imply certain kinds of information be available not only without warrants, but without ever needing to pull the original data. Not only would warrants be redundant, so would National Security Letters.
All without a single patriot in the government going public and blowing the lid off this, yet simultaneously putting this information in the hands of someone willing to shoot their mouth off on CNN.
Can, in theory, all this be true? Sure. It could happen. *Practically* can all this be true? No - too many conspirators have to work invisibly, never tipping their hands, never making a mistake. Just don't buy it.
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An Invisible Entity of Vast Power whose existence must be taken on faith alone: Liberal Media
Have you written a detailed HOWTO article? That would be more helpful than just helping your immediate acquaintances.
i know that you work some place and thats impressive but there are just mounds of evidence that prove you are wrong. and several other comment threads above with the same idea.
"i work for a telco, there is no way this is possible"
"ok thats great, except for several well known court cases that prove the exact opposite of what you are saying"