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BT Begins Customer Tests of Carrier Grade NAT

Posted by timothy on from the party-line-but-with-less-yelling dept.

judgecorp writes "BT Retail has started testing Carrier Grade NAT (CGNAT) with its customer. CGNAT is a controversial practice, in which IP addresses are shared between customers, limiting what customers can do on the open Internet. Although CGNAT goes against the Internet's original end-to-end principles, ISPs say they are forced to use it because IPv4 addresses are running out, and IPv6 is not widely implemented. BT's subsidiary PlusNet has already carried out CGNAT trials, and now BT is trying it on "Option 1" customers who pay for low Internet usage."

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  1. Priority Failure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If people had spent as much money on IP6 as they have on NAT, we'd be done by now.

    1. Re:Priority Failure. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      99.999 percent of people will never notice or care. They could make a free opt-out to satisfy the geeks and few would ever even ask for it.

    2. Re:Priority Failure. by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, this time never existed. Back when everyone who had an internet connection cared about their connectivity there was no NAT - or at least none at the provider level. It's only when consumers hit the internet that we got NAT on a wide scale, and all those people only consumed data for the most part. People who were early adopters and were used to being hands on, a small fraction of the growing tide, cared then and care now. As time marches on, that fraction gets smaller and smaller.

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    3. Re:Priority Failure. by andreyv · · Score: 5, Insightful

      99.999 percent of people will never notice or care.

      ...until one of them gets IP banned on a popular website/game, and brings down all others.

  2. Re:Just use IPV6 by Khyber · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's BT. No explanation for the sheer incompetence is required.

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  3. I've had to deal with this. by Gerafin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Having to share an IP address with tons of people is absolutely, 100% a crippling experience. There are plenty of sites (newspapers, the site I get textures from, RapidShare, etc.) who limit their services by IP address. There's nothing quite like seeing messages about how your IP has exceeded the download limit on a website you've never visited before. Also: having to deal with bans when playing online games, as many are IP-based. The impossibility of hosting your own servers for games or other purposes. BitTorrent is nigh unusable. I would not pay a dime for this kind of a service, ever again.