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India Rolls Out Central Monitoring System To Snoop On All Communications

hypnosec tipped us to news that India is rolling out a new intrusive monitoring system, using the authority of a 2000 telecom law. Quoting The Times of India: "However, Pavan Duggal, a Supreme Court advocate specialising in cyberlaw, said the government has given itself unprecedented powers to monitor private Internet records of citizens. 'This system is capable of abuse,' he said. The Central Monitoring System, being set up by the Centre for Development of Telematics, plugs into telecom gear and gives central and state investigative agencies a single point of access to call records, text messages, and emails as well as the geographical location of individuals." Privacy advocates are worried about abuse, partially because India has no effective privacy legislation, and the "...Indian government under PM Manmohan Singh has taken an increasingly uncompromising stance when it comes to online freedoms, with the stated aim usually to preserve social order and national security or fight 'harmful' defamation."

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  1. Stole our secrets by coinreturn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Copycats! The US Government has been doing that for years.

    1. Re:Stole our secrets by gmuslera · · Score: 2

      At least India is not the central hub that connects most of the regions of the world, nor the country that hosts most of the global sites. In US privacy legislation protects at best (anyway, diminishing) privacy of US citizens, but there is no protection of any kind for people from the rest of the world. They have free shot permission over them.

  2. India Rolls Out Monitoring To Snoop Communications by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2, Informative

    So do you mean India does officially what the US does unofficially ?

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  3. Re:Well at least... by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They'll be spying on you, too. You have no idea exactly how much stuff is outsourced to India. Well, now it's all fair game.

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  4. Re:This is necessary to defeat terrorists. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did you miss the bit where proper controls and judicial oversight aren't in place?

  5. as an american by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i can offer some perspective to India. At first the whole thing seems a bit absurd and draconian, you might even be outraged over it. eventually stuff like this just becomes routine enough to find its way into inane stuff like farm subsidy bills, and aside from the occaional GPS device snuck onto some college kids car you really dont notice it at all. After a while you start to actively ignore the fact that your country runs secret torture camps and foreign prisons for people who say or do the wrong things. Finally you just stop challenging it alltogether and praise it as being something, hell anything your highly factioned, ineffective government can unilaterally agree upon as passable legislation. after a few years and high profile criminal acts like shootings and bombings, you begin to look back and conclude the entire spy-on-everyone thing as being a hopelessly useless effort on the part of the government to keep no one safe.

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    1. Re:as an american by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is one of the most depressing things I've read in a while.

      It's pretty accurate, but it's depressing as hell.

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  6. Ah, those primitives by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ahahahaha, I love it when some shithole 3rd world insolvent country rolls out a new method to keep control of its teeming masses.

    Maybe instead of trying to watch everyone all the time like a giant prison ward, they'd be more successful at preventing sedition by I dunno, maybe making their country a better place to live so people wouldn't be so angry all the time?

    They could start by - instead of their parliament and grand poobah (or whatever they're both called) wasting their efforts on trivial political point-scoring against each other all the goddamn time - passing a fucking budget since they haven't passed one in the last 4 years?

    Wait, are we still talking about India?

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  7. Google by tapspace · · Score: 2

    The government is inefficient, that's why, here in the US, we've privatized it!

  8. Progress? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Meanwhile 600 million Indians still have to schlep down to the nearest river or railway to take a dump in the morning because there aren't enough toilets for everyone. But I'm glad they've got their priorities straight.

    1. Re:Progress? by zmaragdus · · Score: 2

      Because if the people clamoring for basic amenities like clean water are silenced, no one will know that they don't have clean water.

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  9. Re:This is necessary to defeat terrorists. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    call center employees

  10. Repressive much? by Murdoch5 · · Score: 2

    I know in actual fact that the US and Canada aren't much better for tracking communications but at least the governments don't come right out and say it. How can you deny people the right to free speech? When you can go to jail simply by speaking your mind or taking liberty to view a document / picture then we have a problem.

    The internet is an open resource and it should stay that way, just because you can find offensive content doesn't mean it should be blocked. What offends you won't always offend me and vice verse, if you don't like what you see then stop viewing it, but to have an entire country force censorship and monitoring on there people is just sad.

  11. So now all tech support calls are monitored? by oic0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So now every tech support call in the world is monitored by the indian government? If I defame their leaders while on the phone with Dell, will their be consequences?

    1. Re:So now all tech support calls are monitored? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2, Informative

      So now every tech support call in the world is monitored by the indian government? If I defame their leaders while on the phone with Dell, will their be consequences?

      "Hello, this is Steve at Dell 'Support' in not-Bangalore, I'm afraid that the replacement motherboard for your system has been accused of injuring religious feelings and offenses against public order. We will provide you with new tracking number when they are finished 'refurbishing' it in the basement of the interior ministry."

  12. Could be a good thing by Richy_T · · Score: 2

    Maybe we'll actually start to see implementation the end-to-end encryption that should have been there on everything from the beginning*.

    *Admittedly, it wasn't really practical in the beginning but those days are long past

  13. Re:Wait india has internet? by jma05 · · Score: 2

    I will respond to this obvious troll since there is an informational opportunity. I went for gratis Internet classes in 1996 (gopher, veronica, archie - remember them?). The cybercafes were in full force by 1998.

    Cheapest unlimited & WiFi Internet access now is $5/month. Rural areas get cheaper rates. Smartphone Internet plans are at $4/month. In India, even a poor man on a bicycle can afford a mobile phone. I know people in huts who have 3 of them (no, they are not being spendy). Unlike US, there actually is a free market when it comes to telecom and even the dirt poor of us can afford it.