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Mars One Has 78,000 Applicants

An anonymous reader writes "Mars One reports that 78,000 people have volunteered for a one-way ticket to Mars. A quick calculation shows that this means people lined up coast-to-coast in a line with only 40cm per person! (As Robert Zubrin already predicted). If you want, you can still go and sign up (or sign up your worst enemy). Or you can just look at some videos of the would-be travelers."

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  1. Third-party nominations? by dtmos · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can think of several people that I would like to volunteer for a one-way ticket to Mars. Were these volunteers self-nominated, or did Mars One accept third-party nominations?

    1. Re:Third-party nominations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You know my ex-husband too and his mistress?

    2. Re:Third-party nominations? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You obviously are wasting your energy on people who should no longer matter to you. Suggestion, best revenge is to stop caring, and move on. Or, think of it this way, your "ex" still has power over you, do you want that?

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    3. Re:Third-party nominations? by Princeofcups · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can think of several people that I would like to volunteer for a one-way ticket to Mars. Were these volunteers self-nominated, or did Mars One accept third-party nominations?

      More importantly, how many responders are serious? Would they really climb into a craft to go to mars? I'd wager around, let's see, none.

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    4. Re:Third-party nominations? by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I will wager you are wrong.
      Not all 78,000 will, but I bet you could find at least 100 that would. Being first to mars, or among the first will be a huge draw.

    5. Re:Third-party nominations? by TheCRAIGGERS · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wasn't aware the Earth had a Constitution.

    6. Re:Third-party nominations? by mrsquid0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I suspect that most of the people who are applying are planning to take advantage of being on a reality tv show. Everything but the last round is going to happen on Earth, so the vast majority of the applicants know that they will never make it to Mars and simply want to take advantage of whatever fame and fortune come with being on the Mars One tv show over the next few years, which could be considerable.

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    7. Re:Third-party nominations? by sycodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The opposite of Love is not Hate, but Indifference.

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    8. Re:Third-party nominations? by c · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can think of several people that I would like to volunteer for a one-way ticket to Mars.

      I'd pledge $5 to the "Send Snooki Home" kickstarter...

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    9. Re:Third-party nominations? by Infernal+Device · · Score: 2

      I considered it.

      I won't pretend it's for mankind or science or anything like that - I'd be doing it because people would remember my name for having done something somewhat insane, with few harmful side-effects. That mankind would benefit or science would benefit is great, but it would be a side-effect.

      Because I could carve a plaque that said "I was here first, bitch. Suck on that, you second-place losers." I would do my damndedst to ensure that I was remembered not only as the First Man On Mars, but also biggest, most insufferable d-bag at the same time.

      But they'd remember my name.

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    10. Re:Third-party nominations? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      They're trying.

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    11. Re:Third-party nominations? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      With that attitude, I suspect the end of your journey would be about 5 minutes after the first airlock test.

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    12. Re:Third-party nominations? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      With an earth-shattering kaboom.

    13. Re:Third-party nominations? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Make sure you think of some good first words on mars then. Something to rival 'one small step.'

      I'd keep it simple: "First!"

    14. Re:Third-party nominations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Frist setp!!"

    15. Re:Third-party nominations? by Infernal+Device · · Score: 2

      I would be a perfect gentleman to my shipmates and go above and beyond the call of duty, when possible, in whatever my job was.

      But I'd be the first Total D-Bag on Mars to the rest of Humanity.

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    16. Re:Third-party nominations? by AaronLS · · Score: 2

      Better yet, spend some time driving around in the buggy until you've written out in the sand "First Post!" large enough to be visible from satellite.

    17. Re: Third-party nominations? by cmdr_klarg · · Score: 2

      Who or what is Snookie?

      That is something best left unanswered. Count yourself fortunate that you do not know.

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    18. Re:Third-party nominations? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wrong. I really hate this analogy. The opposite of 2 is not 0, it's -2.

      I've had this argument with both my therapist and parenting counselor as part of my divorce. I realized what their intent is, which is to have no emotional attachment either positive or negative to my ex. I'd like to be there but have to work at it.

      That said, I still hate this analogy whenever I hear it. There are better ways of communicating it.

    19. Re:Third-party nominations? by invid · · Score: 2

      Neurologically speaking, revenge actually produces a pleasant chemical payoff when achieved.

      A pleasant chemical payoff is best served cold.

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    20. Re:Third-party nominations? by mrsquid0 · · Score: 2

      Almost all of the applications that I have looked at seem to be from people with no useful skills (at least not ones that will be useful on Mars), little interest in going to Mars beyond stock statements like "it would be awesome" or "I want to be an astronaut", and very little skill in promoting themselves. The number of spelling errors in applicants from people in English-speaking countries is astounding. The quality of many of the videos is dismal. If these people really want to survive on Mars they need to demonstrate a lot more attention to detail than they did on their public applications.

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    21. Re:Third-party nominations? by G-forze · · Score: 2

      No, you aren't going to make it back. One way. The End. Full Stop.

      You don't know that. If you stay, say, 30 years on Mars, they land more people and more equipment as the years go by, more and more frequently as the tech develops and matures. One day a return trip would certainly be available. It might not be cheap (in the beginning), but hey, if you have been working on Mars for 30 years, you might be able to afford it. If nothing else, your fame from being among the first martian explorers might land you a nice advertisement gig to pay for the trip home.

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    22. Re:Third-party nominations? by SirGarlon · · Score: 2

      But it is much easier to be indifferent toward someone if they are on Mars with no possibility of return. :-)

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  2. Bleaker than you think! by StefanJ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you read the Mars One, you'll see that they're counting on revenue from a reality program to fund the project.

    So, the candidates must not only be emotionally stable and qualified, but be photogenic and charming enough to sustain the interest of viewers.

    Imagine the horror if, after three years, all of the surviving colonists turn out to be phlegmatic, agreeable, no-drama workaholics and stable family-minded folks.

    "These rating are terrible! My God, it's turned into The Waltons in space! Can we ship in some ninjas or a killer robot to liven things up?"

    1. Re:Bleaker than you think! by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you read the Mars One, you'll see that they're counting on revenue from a reality program to fund the project.

      Awesome, I've been expecting that sooner or later reality TV would go in the direction of people dying for years now.

      I'm sure the dying moments of these people will make for really awesome ratings.

      What a dumb fscking idea.

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    2. Re:Bleaker than you think! by Synerg1y · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Haha,

      what reality stars are emotionally stable?

      If they want to make a reality show, I think we know exactly the type of people they'll select and trust me they won't be astronaut grade.

    3. Re:Bleaker than you think! by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Is that a problem?

      What dying moments will be broadcast? Ideally, the travelers would survive long enough to set up a viable sustainable colony, whose expenses could be handled by a large enough trust fund. By the time they die of natural causes, the reality show would be long-since off the air.

      In a less ideal situation, the travelers' catastrophic dying moments are broadcast to the world, and the travelers are martyrs in the ongoing process of human exploration. This is a known risk, which all the travelers must accept before volunteering. Why, then, would it be a problem to broadcast the unintentional deaths of these brave folks? The chance of their sudden death is something they accept... why can't we viewers accept it as well?

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    4. Re:Bleaker than you think! by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The chance of their sudden death is something they accept... why can't we viewers accept it as well?

      This isn't a chance. It's a 1 way trip. They'll either die on Mars, die taking off, or die getting there. But, they *will* die.

      Of course viewers will accept it, they'll embrace it -- pretty much like they embraced gladiatorial and watching public executions and watching decapitation videos on the internet.

      I somehow doubt that a Mars mission funded by a reality show is going to create a viable self sustaining colony which allows these people to die of natural causes.

      I can accept an astronaut signing up for something which is risky, but has a reasonable chance of working. But I'm a little creeped out by a guaranteed death sentence from a one way mission operated by a private company who wants to have a reality show.

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    5. Re:Bleaker than you think! by hedwards · · Score: 2

      There are degrees of emotional stability. Most people are relatively stable, otherwise nothing would get done and we couldn't have a society. The folks that fit in well with society are generally not suitable for reality programming. It would be like going to a movie called "accounts: the motion picture" where they were actual accountants engaged in regular accounting practices. I shouldn't spoil it, but about halfway in, they find a misplaced comma and have to redo the numbers.

    6. Re:Bleaker than you think! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm a little creeped out by a guaranteed death sentence from a one way mission

      why? were you creeped out when you learned that europeans sailed to the americas?

      It's a 1 way trip. They'll either die on Mars, die taking off, or die getting there. But, they *will* die.

      spoiler alert, everybody dies. i'd rather be one of the first people to live and die on mars than the umpteen billionth person to live and die on earth.

    7. Re:Bleaker than you think! by Sperbels · · Score: 2

      Not me. I'm having my head cryogenically frozen. I'll be relived when they perfect immortality.

    8. Re:Bleaker than you think! by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Gladiators, executions, and snuff films differ from pioneering in one major aspect: the pioneers choose to take the risk. The AC summed up my opinion pretty well. Everybody dies. Every moment we live is another moment closer to our death... If someone has no better long-term plans, why not volunteer?

      It's a simple gamble. The prize is an extremely valuable contribution to human exploration. The entry price is difficult communication with most other humans for the rest of your life, however long that may be. The risk is a sudden death.

      Like every other wager, whether it's advantageous depends on the cost/benefit analysis. Someone who doesn't value their connections on Earth nearly as much as their contributions to science may find it perfectly reasonable to risk a sudden death for the chance to begin human planetary colonization. If that's their opinion and their choice, why not respect it?

      There is a pervasive idea in Western culture that death is something tragic. We avoid death to the point where we spend our whole lives taking pills, exercising, and cowering in fear of what new deaths we might encounter. The very mention of death brings sadness into a party, and funerals are silent orgies of despair. Why must we all be such cowards? Let us go each day seeking new ways to die. Not merely new to each individual, but a death unlike any other in history. Now, the corollary to that is that we must avoid deaths that have been done before. Avoid heart attacks lying on the couch, avoid getting hit by a bus that you thought would stop, and avoid getting mauled by animals.

      A natural death on Mars after a long career of science hasn't happened yet, and neither has a fiery death in a do-or-die effort to return a drifting interplanetary spacecraft. Let's do it.

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    9. Re:Bleaker than you think! by Farmer+Pete · · Score: 2

      "Years ago, it meant something to be crazy. Now everyone's crazy." Charles Manson

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    10. Re:Bleaker than you think! by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

      I can accept an astronaut signing up for something which is risky, but has a reasonable chance of working. But I'm a little creeped out by a guaranteed death sentence from a one way mission operated by a private company who wants to have a reality show.

      Life is a guaranteed death sentence. I'm not seeing how that's much different than not signing up... IMO, it's not how long you live, that's silly. You'll be dead (or unborn) for infinitely longer a time than alive. What counts is the journey, and what you do with your life.

      Frankly, I've lost complete tolerance for any humans who aren't actively trying to do something about the problem of having all the eggs in one basket called Earth.

      I don't care if they're going to fund Mars One via reality TV, live porn, or human centipede eating contests. The fact that we don't already have an off-world colony, despite 4 decades of manned space exploration is quite retarded. You want to just wait around some more, like dinosaurs until some 'acceptable' parties manage to trick the ignorant masses into funding a colony? How horrible to think a big rock could be discovered heading this way tomorrow, and we'd have missed our chance to have any sort of defense or at least a self sustaining off world gene pool -- Pissed away our chances by fighting stupid petty wars instead.

      These volunteers are trail blazers who are doing more for mankind with their sacrifice than any single human ever has. I don't think they care how it gets funded either, there's WAY more important things at work here... Like reducing our current 100% odds that we'll become extinct -- And it's not just humans I'm talking about. It's all life on Earth. These folks, and all who further our footholds in space, are the only ones actually saving the World.

  3. So what? by DerekLyons · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So? In this era of "liking" and "sharing" and "+1ing"... 78k "likes" isn't all that impressive. (And the vast majority probably aren't qualified and won't pass screening in the first place - they're just applying because it's "cool".)

    1. Re:So what? by mtmra70 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Huh? 78,000 people paid an application fee of at least $5. I would say that is a bit beyond "liking".

  4. Re:312 km coast to coast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are Americans.

  5. Re:312 km coast to coast by meerling · · Score: 2

    100cm = 1m
    1000m = 1km

    That would be 31.2 km.
    Of course, as you pointed out, that's a very short distance between coasts, so which two coasts are we talking about here?

  6. Math is way off. by butlerm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Somebody needs a math lesson. 3000 miles * 5280 feet per mile / 78000 = 203 feet. That is a tad more than 40 cm.

    1. Re:Math is way off. by Alastor187 · · Score: 2

      Somebody needs a math lesson. 3000 miles * 5280 feet per mile / 78000 = 203 feet. That is a tad more than 40 cm.

      Seems appropriate given this is a story about sending something to Mars.

  7. 40cm? Bad math in summary by Jaryn · · Score: 2

    40 cm per person? No... 40 m per person? Yes.

  8. Re:312 km coast to coast by Ed_1024 · · Score: 2, Informative

    78,000 * 0.4 = 31,200m / 31.2km.

    Long Island coasts, it seems. I hope they use better math when designing the spacecraft...

  9. Re:312 km coast to coast by h4rr4r · · Score: 3, Informative

    If each of these people were 64 meters wide this would work out.

  10. I hope the guy who did that calculation... by istartedi · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope the guy who did that calculation is not computing the path of the spacecraft.

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  11. Re:I would volounteer. by Cenan · · Score: 2

    I know there are at least a 100,000 more qualified people that will volunteer and do a better job then I on the mission

    Being qualified for this "mission" only entails being expendable on Earth. This mission is most likely going absolutely nowhere, the real unknowns are what the showstopper is going to be. Will it be their tenuous grasp on basic science? Or perhaps the fact that they havn't got the faintest idea about how they're going to get to Mars in the first place? Maybe it'll be something completely different... We just don't know. Exciting times.

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  12. Re:312 km coast to coast by esampson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Mercifully it looks like the math error might be on the part of the poster rather than the article. I did a quick skim of the article and didn't see anywhere were they mentioned anything like how far apart people would be if stretched from coast to coast.

    Of course it is always possible that the article was edited by the time I saw it but since the post doesn't appear to be a quote ripped from the site Occam's Razor is that the poster wrote up the post, did the math, and got it wrong.

  13. Money in the bank by Davess · · Score: 2

    What the summary fails to mention is that the "application fee" was at minimum $20 USD, and went upwards towards $40 USD depending on the country. Worst case scenario they made about $1.5 million off of applications alone. I would think that volunteering to permanently leave your life behind would be enough collateral without needing to nickel and dime applicants. This reeks of the space-equivalent of vaporware to me.

    1. Re:Money in the bank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This actually reeks of fraud to me. One person's vaporware is another person's fraud. This is a tried and true mechanism for committing fraud on a massive scale:

      1. Pitch stupid idea to 100k+ people
      2. Get each person (or most of the people) to pledge a small amount of money towards the idea
      3. The idea never goes anywhere and the idea pitchers cannot be found (with 2+ million in the bank)

      This is exactly how {insert favourite TV evangelist} extorted millions from basically poor people, but instead of sending your money to God you're sending money to some idea almost as equally stupid. After looking at their website, there is no financial information disclosure and no appointed auditors. The whole thing smells like a scam. The only difference being that most people don't really complain loudly when they're out a paltry sum of cash.

  14. Telephone hygienists by edxwelch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just wondering. What percentage of those are Telephone hygienists?

  15. Re:312 km coast to coast by fbumg · · Score: 5, Funny

    They are Americans.

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  16. Re:I would volounteer. by Cenan · · Score: 2

    (like Bas saying he doesn't want any engineers...WTF??)

    They probably don't want anyone smart enough to see through the scam that it boils down to being. Kind of like the cold fusion guys some months back that didn't want an audience for their test run. What happened to those people anyways?

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  17. Re:You mean 78,000 suckers by MozeeToby · · Score: 2

    Already been done: Space Cadets.

    However

    A) Their application process would seem to make this more difficult (you want people who aren't really interested in space so they are less informed and easier to fool)
    B) They are also talking about a multi-year training program, which would seem cost prohibitive and would also raise the risk of the participants finding out exponentially.

  18. It's a FAAAAAAKE! by itsdapead · · Score: 2

    This is nothing but a fake reality show designed to try and fool people into thinking they're going to mars

    or, more likely, a fake fake reality show designed to fool viewers into thinking that the contestants thought they were going to Mars.

    (Actually, putting even one "fake" before "reality show" is redundant).

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  19. Re: 312 km coast to coast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a bigger pity that you don't know what the word "redundant" means.

  20. Re: 312 km coast to coast by Tr3vin · · Score: 5, Funny

    He is an American.

  21. Re:312 km coast to coast by SleazyRidr · · Score: 2

    Bear in mind that this is a Dutch project. A country with coasts roughly 31.2 km apart...