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Sleep Deprivation Lowers School Achievement In Children

New submitter josedu writes:"Sleep deprivation is a great, hidden problem that afflicts a great percentage of children in affluent countries. About 73% of 9- and 10-year-old children in the U.S. are sleep deprived, as are 80% of 13- and 14-year-olds. The new study thinks this is linked to the increased access to devices such as mobile phones and laptops late at night. One of the researchers put it very simply: 'Our data show that across countries internationally, on average, children who have more sleep achieve higher in maths, science and reading.' This disruption is also causing schools to dumb-down their instruction to accomodate the reduced capacity of these kids. Thus, even the kids who are getting enough sleep will suffer. The long-term impact of sleep deprivation on nationwide education levels is enormous."

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  1. Let me be the first to say... by chinton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Duh!

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say... by cod3r_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except they blame devices instead of the schools for having to start classes at 8am on the dot. Why not start them later at like 930 or 10. I hated waking up for school so freakin early.

    2. Re:Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure circadian rhythms don't work like that.

      here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Biological_clock_human.svg

    3. Re:Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Also this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_disorder

      I tried my best to go to bed earlier. I just ended up tossing and turning in bed until midnight for weeks on end. Only thing that helped me is melatonin.

    4. Re:Let me be the first to say... by suutar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not to mention the natural wake/sleep cycle changes as you age. Adolescence tends to shift the natural wake-up time back by a couple of hours. Yes, teenagers wanting to sleep in later than preadolescents (and stay up later) seems to have a biological basis. http://kidshealth.org/teen/your_body/take_care/how_much_sleep.html

    5. Re: Let me be the first to say... by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Sorry boss, I like to stay up late"?

      It's not a problem for you, so it's not a problem? This may come as an amazing shock to you but not everyone can sleep at will. Not everyone can choose when to sleep. Going to be earlier for you lets you go to sleep earlier? Great for you. Not everyone is exactly like you.

      Quite a few people are at the mercy of their circadian rhythms, and nothing short of addictive sleep aids will cause them to fall asleep earlier. Youcan, of course, always set the alarm earlier. Thus a big problem with sleep deprivation.

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    6. Re:Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apparently my son has a /. account and just modded me 'Troll'.

      Of course, that must be what happened. The fact that you smugly oversimplified a complex, nuanced issue in order to dismiss it and those adversely affected by it has absolutely nothing to do with it.

      You remind me of certain extreme right-wingers who think the poor should just "get off their lazy asses", as if poverty was that simple.

      Not everyone is "wired" to be a morning person. They are not naturally that way, but they find themselves in a world run by those who are. They go against their own nature trying to adapt to the world. It should surprise no one that this has a cost. The people surprised by this are people like you who think everybody is either just like themselves, or somehow defective. Expecting everybody to naturally be a morning person is like expecting every person on the Internet to be a telecommunications expert. It's inconsistent with observable reality.

      What you are doing is like trying to force-fit a square peg into a round hole. When it doesn't work as well as you hoped, you are then telling the peg it's doing something wrong. That's why you are being smug or if you like, self-centered - I am not trying to name-call or hurl insults, it's just that what you are doing has a name. It's this black-and-white view of yours that was correctly recognized as "Troll". No one is accusing you of intentionally trolling, it's just the closest moderation fitting your post.

      Unfortunatley you are now considered "insightful" by the more numerous small-minded mods who share your black-and-white view of how everyone else should be.

    7. Re:Let me be the first to say... by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure it's so parents have time to drop off their kids at school on the way to work.

      Parents should not be taking their kids to school after the age of about 4 or 5.

      It is one of the most ridiculous things to have happened during my lifetime. Kids should walk, cycle or get a bus (depending on distance). There is absolutely no advantage whatsoever in parents driving their kids to school. It makes the kids physically lazy and infantilises them. They have no freedom to play with friends on the way to school, or hang around afterwards talking, or explore on their own.

      It's all part of society's destruction of childhood. Children go from toddler straight to whining entitled adolescent.

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  2. Ambient noise by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd wager ambient urban noise levels have increased tremendously over the last while as well. Given increasingly shoddy construction, antisocial behaviour from the party set and general vehicular activity you'd have to be living in a rural area to get a decent night's sleep in most places. It's a very serious business with major health implications for children and adults.

  3. Wow, I'm impressed. by seebs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They managed to reproduce results fifteen or twenty years, and offer a stupid interpretation. Not bad!

    The sleep-deprivation thing is well known, and not new. However, there's nothing tying it to "mobile devices". Rather, there's strong evidence that teenagers tend to have a circadian rhythm which favors being up later and not getting up that early. Schools have historically shoved their schedules extra-early so that extracurricular events like sports can occur before the sun goes down, but after school. Last time I heard about this, a school district had tried simply moving the high school day an hour later, and gotten a very noticable improvement in basically every measure of achievement available to them.

    Now that I'm an adult, I sleep until I feel like getting up, and if I'm up a bit late, fine. I pretty much wake up between 11 and noon, and I work "late" most nights... But I get a heck of a lot more done, and a lot better, than I did when I was trying to work 9-5.

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  4. Re:So? Public schools are garbage. by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The beauty of it is that they will grow up to have kids of their own and will do an even sorrier job of raising them than their parents did with them. It's like watching water flow down a drain. Thank God for immigration. Without it the US would be doomed. In particular the oriental immigrants seem to do well due no doubt to actually having a solid family oriented culture. Here in the US most kids seemed to be raised by electronic devices.

  5. Re:My observations with my neighbors and friends w by Nyder · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...kids, is that many parents don't put their kids to sleep the same way they did when I was a child (70's/80's.)

    My kids go to sleep between 7:30PM and 8:30PM depending upon their ages (ranging from 5-9.)

    At 9PM at night during the week I'll hear quite a lot of our neighbors' kids still playing outside, much less getting ready for bed.

    School starts VERY early here as well (kids have to be at school by 7:30AM.)

    Now, some of these kids who are staying up later are doing quite well in school, so who knows. It's just different from when I was a kid and it seemed to be a pervasive adult conspiracy to put all children to bed early...

    My parents made me go to bed at 7:30 till I was in middle school. It was evil. I didn't need that much sleep, and the sun was still shining most the time. It would take me hours to fall asleep. If that help my grades, I don't know. I was the kid who always had the "can't pay attention" in class. But later, in middle school and beyond, when I wasn't going to bed at 7:30 (it was then more 9-10ish) I got B+ grades without trying.

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  6. Start School Later by mentil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The book 'the end of homework' explained this pretty well. Research has found that school starts an hour before children are typically awake. School starts so early so that there can be long afternoons of sports practice. Prioritizing learning over sports would thus lead to improved learning.

    I recall Junior year of high school. Biology and Geometry were my first two classes, and I would fall asleep during the latter due to late nights exploring the nascent Interweb. Late at night there are no parents nagging you, you can go to sleep whenever you want, it's quiet and you can think or do whatever you want. And, ya know, less sleep means more free time, of which high schoolers feel quickly slipping away as their homework load increases.

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  7. Re:Slashdot Theorem by compro01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When the problem predates the technology (or at least the wide adoption of the technology), it's pretty unlikely that the technology is the primary problem. It may be aggravating things, but the root cause is somewhere else.

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  8. Science by Murdoch5 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually I read once that teenagers are better "profiled" to perform during the mid day and hence they should really be sleeping much later at night and into the early morning, class for teenagers should be starting at noon not 9am. Well I'm not going to argue a good night sleep is important, it is very important, we need to be setting class times that revolve more around the natural clock of the body and not what works best for the adults. If science can show that 12 - 7pm works better for teenagers then I think we should move class times to work in that area. It would also be worth figuring out when the best natural class time is children, I have a problem when we base sleep patterns for the teachers rather then the students.

    This link from the BBC talks about it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7932950.stm

    So I think the solution, at least for teenagers is to move the class time back so they can best perform when biologically they're ready to.

  9. Re:Slashdot Theorem by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    Alcohol is no solution, don't be ridiculous.

    Pay some attention in chemistry class, it's a distillate.

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  10. Re:duh research by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry, what Government Agency needs to pay attention to this and what should they do about it?

    Answer: None.

    The only reason 9 and 10 year old children are sleep deprived is because of dumb shit parents who don't give a fuck about their kids.

    And the only people who can do anything about it is the dumb shit parents.

    The only reason 9 and 10 year old children are sleep deprived is because of dumb shit parents who don't give a fuck about their kids.

    And the only people who can do anything about it is the dumb shit parents.

    Thank GOD we have someone here who knows the answer and no doubt or exceptions!

    I'm intrigued that you know everything - do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

    So first, Every sleep child is apparently allowed to stay up as late as he or she wants because those parents don't "give a fuck"?

    Not a single school aged child has ever had to staye up late because a parent was out working and they had to baby sit. I babysat my little sister while my parents were working late. Making ends meet. Not because they didn't "give a fuck". Lot's of children get to do this. Not everything is as it was in the Brady Bunch.

    Even my son while in high school was a part of the generation that got homework dumped on them. sometimes he'd be up until 11 or 12 at night doing it. In your world we made him do that homework because4 we didn't "give a fuck".

    Kind sir, you are a person who only knows one answer and spouts it as if it is from God's lips to your ears, You are not anywhere near as smart as you think you are, you have a very narrow, and I suspect politically influnced viewpoint - although I doubt that you "give a fuck".

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  11. Re:duh research by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    while it might be "duh", government agencies, et al, won't respond to anecdotal stories about the effects of sleep deprivation. They need data to back it.

    There is plenty of data. This not even close to the first study that has reached the same conclusion. More sleep means more learning. Kids' sleep patterns are determined by daylight, so "going to bed early" doesn't work. What does work is shifting the school hours later in the day. The kids go to bed at the same time, but sleep extra in the morning. Schools that have done this not only have better test scores, but also have fewer pregnancies, less drug use, and fewer accidents. Kids are most likely to smoke pot and screw right after school, while their parents are still at work and the house is empty. When the school day is shifted later in the day, they don't have as much time for that. Citation (sorry about the pdf): Sleep, Safety, Drugs, Teen Pregnancy and other reasons to change school times

  12. Re:duh research by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

    Citation (sorry about the pdf)

    Here is the same citation, but html: Early Morning Classes, Sleepy Students, and Risky Behavior.

    More citations are listed at the bottom of the article.

    Quick summary: Starting and ending the school day early is really dumb.