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First Observations of Short-lived Pear-shaped Atomic Nuclei

An anonymous reader sends this quote from a press release at CERN: "An international team at the ISOLDE radioactive-beam facility at CERN has shown that some atomic nuclei can assume asymmetric, 'pear' shapes (abstract). The observations contradict some existing nuclear theories and will require others to be amended. ... Most nuclei have the shape of a rugby ball. While state-of-the-art theories are able to predict this behaviour, the same theories have predicted that for some particular combinations of protons and neutrons, nuclei can also assume asymmetric shapes, like a pear. In this case there is more mass at one end of the nucleus than the other."

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  1. Followed shortly after by "muffin top" electrons by Picass0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not to mention the "poor self esteem" and "great personality" protons

  2. Pear shaped? by DougOtto · · Score: 3, Funny

    It must have gotten married.

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    1. Re:Pear shaped? by snadrus · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... the entanglement theory.

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  3. Re:Followed shortly after by "muffin top" electron by Nyder · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not to mention the "poor self esteem" and "great personality" protons

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  4. Pear-shaped huh? by Trogre · · Score: 2

    Reminds me of the Gary Larson cartoon set in a haywire factory.

    "Professor, the beam has gone out of alignment, the atom chamber is leaking and the datalogger has crashed again. I'm afraid the whole experiment has gone you-know-what."

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  5. Reference to Island of Stablility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those interested: Nuclei with shapes like this or barbells are significant in solving the problem of filling that range of elements on the Periodic table that were skipped. Ideas were proposed that nuclei would need to have these shapes in order to be stable if the nucleus followed a shell model similar to electron shells. You can read more by researching "Island of Stability"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability

    1. Re:Reference to Island of Stablility by DontLickJesus · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those interested: Nuclei with shapes like this or barbells are significant in solving the problem of filling that range of elements on the Periodic table that were skipped. Ideas were proposed that nuclei would need to have these shapes in order to be stable if the nucleus followed a shell model similar to electron shells. You can read more by researching "Island of Stability"

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability

      Eh, fark. This is mine. Stupid login.

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    2. Re:Reference to Island of Stablility by VortexCortex · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Island of Stability" -- Well, it's no Fortress of Solitude, but I guess for a used up pear-shaped Atomic Avenger, it'll do.

    3. Re:Reference to Island of Stablility by kyrsjo · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem is that the strong force (QCD) is behaving really weirdly - in effect a proton is composed of an infinite amount of particles: Two up quarks an a down, together carrying most of the momentum (as measured in deep inelastic scattering experiments), a bunch of gluons which, well, glues everything together, and an infinite amount of quark-antiquark pairs.

    4. Re:Reference to Island of Stablility by kyrsjo · · Score: 3, Informative

      This means we can to a certain degree simulate simpler systems, such as pions (composed as an up and an anti-up OR down+anti-down pluss all the gluons and "sea" quarks) using lattice QCD numerical simulations. But for a whole proton, the theory and our computers just aren't up to scratch. For a whole nuclei (which is simplified by "grouping" the quarks into protons and nucleons) it quickly gets VERY hairy as you move up the mass scale. Many-particle quantum dynamics is tough stuff, especially when the interactions get powerfull - and QCD is as powerfull as it gets...

  6. Radon by justthinkit · · Score: 2

    The image of Ra (Radium) shown is interesting, given that this atom is radioactive...i.e. unstable. With spheres being more stable than wobbly shapes, it seems to make sense that radioactive elements might vary well have asymmetric shapes at the atomic level.

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  7. Make that Radium by justthinkit · · Score: 3, Funny

    Subject line fail.

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  8. Re:have you considered by c0lo · · Score: 2

    that this nuclei is just more excited than the others!

    Which is why I' really like some details about the experimental settings/procedure.
    The paper's title is "Studies of pear-shaped nuclei using accelerated radioactive beams": is it possible the pear-shape is actually caused by the acceleration?

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  9. Re:Followed shortly after by "muffin top" electron by meglon · · Score: 2

    Heard in the lab: "Dammit, that neutron went straight to my ass!"

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  10. Re:Rugby ball? by flayzernax · · Score: 2

    Some of us are Americans you insensitive clod.

  11. Re:have you considered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The acceleration referred to in the title does not have an effect on that, as it refers to the beam being accelerated before measurements are made (a long time before on the nuclear reaction time scales). The method of smacking nuclei together to excite them then measure the gamma rays produced by the relaxation of the excited nuclei is pretty standard. Although typically it used to be beam of accelerated stable isotopes hitting a radioactive target, and now they are instead accelerating the radioactive isotopes and hitting a stable stationary target. This doesn't have an effect on the reaction/excitation, but instead allows them to use less of the radioactive isotopes for the same amount of reactions, compared to having a large radioactive target most of which is not hit by nuclei in the beam. And obviously the collisions have an effect on the nuclei as that excitation is exactly what they are studying, although in ways that will average over nuclei to prevent random single nuclei effects from affecting the result.

  12. Fruits and science by Pro-feet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "...and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped."

  13. Re:I HAVE RISEN !! by davester666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The real implication is that it's OK for guys to bang every chick in sight, but that women that do so are sluts sleeping their way to the top.

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  14. Re:I HAVE RISEN !! by neonKow · · Score: 2

    There's an evolutionary reason for racism too, but we've made much better progress on that front.

  15. Dr Stoyan Sarg predicted this in his BSM-SG theory by Zdzicho00 · · Score: 2

    Dr. Stoyan Sarg already predicted such atomic nuclei shape in his "Basic Structures of Matter - Supergravitation Unified Theory":
    http://www.sbwire.com/press-releases/ground-breaking-new-book-offers-scientific-reasoning-for-cold-fusion-energy-248341.htm

    BTW here is a better article from Physics World:
    http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/may/08/nuclear-physics-goes-pear-shaped