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Printable Gun Downloads Top 100k In 2 Days, Thanks to Kim Dotcom

Sparrowvsrevolution writes "The promise of a fully 3D-printable gun is that it can spread via the Internet and entirely circumvent gun control laws. Two days after that digital weapon's blueprint first appeared online, it seems to be fulfilling that promise. Files for the printable gun known as that 'Liberator' have been downloaded more than 100,000 times in two days, according to Defense Distributed, the group that created it. Those downloads were facilitated by Kim Dotcom's startup Mega, which Defense Distributed is using to host the Liberator's CAD files. And it's also been uploaded to the Pirate Bay, where it's one of the most popular files in the filesharing site's uncensorable 3D printing category."

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  1. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The way this is promoted in the news you'd think that zip guns never existed, and until "just hours ago" there was no way to come up with an improvised weapon.

    1. Re:Yawn by TWiTfan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, but this is the *hip*, *new* way to create cheap-ass zip guns!

      It's also a conveniently great excuse for the corporate slaves in Congress to decry those terrorist facilitators at Mega and The Pirate Bay.

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    2. Re:Yawn by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, but this is the *hip*, *new* way to create cheap-ass zip guns!

      No, it's the hip new way of creating zip guns that cost more than several actual firearms would, considering the cost of the printer and materials.

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    3. Re:Yawn by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ammo is the problem. But I can imagine them being created and distributed among gangs. You think urban crime is bad now? You haven't seen nothing yet once the basement dwelling production starts.

      Malarky.

      Gang bangers can get a Saturday Night Special for less than $100 on the black market, one that's good for several shots. A 3d printed gun is good for maybe 1 shot, barring catastrophic failure, and use hundreds of dollars worth of material, not to mention the cost of the printer to make them with.

      The whole "OMG cheap guns for criminals" angle is pure FUD.

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    4. Re:Yawn by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole "OMG cheap guns for criminals" angle is pure FUD.

      For now. Tech will get better, faster, cheaper, always.

      ... and it will still be FUD by definition to assume the worst of said technological development.

      Sure, in the future it may lead to cheaper weapons for criminals, but conversely, it will also lead to cheaper weapons for the oppressed. So, unless you're a supporter of fascist totalitarianism, there is an obvious upside.

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    5. Re:Yawn by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Realistically, this method is not for people who could not otherwise obtain a weapon and is unlikely to ever be. What it does do is produce a physical manifestation of a largely intellectual and ideological point as part of a larger discussion. Such techniques are unlikely to have any impact on actual access to or ownership of weapons.

  2. Uhm by noobermin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    DISCLAIMER: I am a godless liberal in some respects, so I might be biased...but this is becoming like bitcoin, guys. A 3D printed gun is cool to me as a demonstration of the advanced state of the technology, but we don't need a story of even little happening with TEH 3D PRONTED GUNNS (GUBERMIENT, etc).

    Slashdot has become awash with political crap. Let's return to a site for nerds, stuff that matters. Not stuff that rallies the libertarians and the collectivists, okay?

  3. Re:So many people miss the point. by Ironchew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole point was to prove that antigun laws are as useless and counterproductive as the war on drugs.

    Gun control works quite well in countries that have decided to implement it nationwide.

    Thorough gun control is analogous to bomb control. Anyone can build a bomb with instructions on the internet, but most of us don't. Why? The public has decided that bombs kill way too many people and the law (in the United States, at least), severely punishes people who, successfully or otherwise, blow up a bomb. Like all other hazardous items (with the curious exception of guns), individuals have to be licensed to handle bombs and there is probably a federal registry that lists all of them and where they store their bomb-building supplies.

    People in the United States don't have lots of bombs in their houses. Why, then, would gun control enforcement pose any particular challenge?

  4. Re:This is the best way of gun control by Infiniti2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good analogy. So, let's put the same restrictions on guns like we do on automobiles here in the U.S. You know, registration is required, licenses are required, insurance is required. In some states, an inspection is required. How does all that work for you?

  5. Re:This is the best way of gun control by robthebloke · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Gun deaths in the US in 2010: 11,078 homicides, 19,392 suicides, and 606 unintentional killings.

    Why is no one screaming to Congress to ban automobiles?

    Because that's a stupid argument, and you already know the answer.

    In the vietnam war, 58,000 american soldiers lost their lives. A large number (but not all) US citizens campaigned for US troups to pull out, and eventually that happened. You see the thing about a democracy is, that you make decisions based on the majority, not the minority. It so happens that an overwhelming majority or americans believe that cars are a good thing, and should not be banned. The problem with gun ownership, is that there is now a majority of americans who believe that restrictions on gun ownership should be tightened (to some degree). They might not agree on everything, but there is general agreement for tighter restrictions. You might not like this, you might not agree with it, but unfortunately, you live in a democracy and therefore have to accept societies wishes I'm afraid. The best thing you can do, is stop making trite arguments, and start making sensible suggestions for compromises that would both be acceptable for you, and for the anti-gun lobby.

  6. Re:This is the best way of gun control by femtobyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If firearms stop working, every human being is at the mercy of larger and stronger people.

    Fortunately, 100% of larger and stronger people aren't vicious muder-rapist psychopaths just waiting for the chance to rampage over society. I think there are plenty of perfectly nice large and strong people to handle the tiny few who suddenly decide to go rogue. Hey, I already walk around unarmed --- a short, flabby weakling --- and yet don't regularly get beset by burly bandits. With guns, I'm still at the mercy of those better armed, with better marksmanship, and more willingness to initiate violence with the element of surprise (no matter how well-armed a sharpshooter I am, I'm still screwed if a stranger decides to shoot me in the back of my head).