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Why Is Science Behind a Paywall?

An anonymous reader writes "The Priceonomics blog has a post that looks into how so much of our scientific knowledge came to be gated by current publishing models. 'The most famous of these providers is Elsevier. It is a behemoth. Every year it publishes 250,000 articles in 2,000 journals. Its 2012 revenues reached $2.7 billion. Its profits of over $1 billion account for 45% of the Reed Elsevier Group — its parent company which is the 495th largest company in the world in terms of market capitalization. Companies like Elsevier developed in the 1960s and 1970s. They bought academic journals from the non-profits and academic societies that ran them, successfully betting that they could raise prices without losing customers. Today just three publishers, Elsevier, Springer and Wiley, account for roughly 42% of all articles published in the $19 billion plus academic publishing market for science, technology, engineering, and medical topics. University libraries account for 80% of their customers.' The article also explain how moving to open access journals would help, but says it's just one step in a more significant transformation scientific research needs to undergo. It points to the open source software community as a place from which researchers should take their cues."

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  1. Because it's valuable, duh. by ron_ivi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    It has value, so someone wants to profit from it.

    One could as easily ask "why are Hollywood Movies behind a paywall", or "why is food behind a paywall at my grocery store".

    1. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well that's all well and good, except that most universities around the world are publicly funded in part by taxes. So your taxes pay for the research, and then you have to pay once more to be able to look at the results. If you had to have your credit card details ready when you made a 911 call, you might start to wonder what your tax dollars are actually being used for....

    2. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...and when it is free it's value is even greater. duh.

    3. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by femtobyte · · Score: 4, Informative

      Key difference: food is not produced by non-profit farmers, who would love to give their food away for free to everyone in the world if only the grocery stores allowed it. Nor do the people who write scientific journal articles expect to earn royalties for every copy read. Scientists want their work to be read and shared *without the motive of earning a single penny per copy distributed.*

    4. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by cheesybagel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Totally different. Most of the effort here is actually done by people who do not get paid. This includes both the authors and the reviewers.

    5. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by Jamu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does it even qualify as scientific knowledge if it's not freely available for peer review?

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    6. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by zlogic · · Score: 5, Informative

      Authors are paid next to nothing. I've published a paper by Springer which is currently selling for $40 for a download. Guess how much I got paid? $0 (and even had to sign a huge contract detailing the terms of my $0 compensation).
      Scientists publish papers because they need credit, references, public claims on their discoveries etc. Big-name scientists may actually earn something if they negotiate it.
      The only reason I see the publishers get such a huge compensation is that they have to review papers (probably hire scientists from similar fields) and deal with the incoming stream of bullshit articles.

    7. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by Mitreya · · Score: 2

      Does it even qualify as scientific knowledge if it's not freely available for peer review?

      Uhm... yes?
      The peer in peer-reviewed refers to the experts from the same domain who are qualified to review your work. Not to the general population.

    8. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by femtobyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I expect them to be paid the same way they already have been and are paid, which doesn't involve a cent coming from sales of their research articles. The for-profit journals don't funnel those billions of revenues back to scientists; they take them *away* from the scientific community (and into the pockets of profiteering investors). Replacing for-profit publishers with non-profit university and professional associations puts more money (and, more importantly, access to knowledge) back in the hands of scientists, without taking a single thing away from any scientist's paycheck.

    9. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by femtobyte · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not for journal articles. For whole textbooks, a small pittance --- nothing remotely profitable compared to the thousands of hours that go into preparing such a text. The person I know who got an advanced graduate level text published through a major publisher earned ~$1 in royalties per copy, for a book that sold for $160 (and would, optimistically, sell a few thousand copies). He joined in with the lab's gray market overseas purchase (for about half the US price), because he sure as heck wasn't making any extra from the publisher's extortion. Only a few of the most common freshman introductory texts --- that will sell zillions of copies --- might be profitable; anything more advanced (that actually draws on the researcher's own particular area of expertise to advance a field) is done at a loss by the author --- typically only after getting tenure, since time spent writing a textbook isn't adding to annual publication counts.

    10. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by Americano · · Score: 2

      It's really not "huge compensation" until they've scaled their organization to thousands of employees around the world, publishing thousands of journals & tens of thousands of books. On a per-unit basis, their profits are pretty modest.

      250,000 articles, 2.7 bn in revenues, of which 1 bn is profit - that means each article generates $10,800 in revenue, which means there's a breakdown of $4000 in 'profit' from each article, and $6,800 in 'expenses,' assuming all revenues come from publication activities. It costs money to manage and publish these articles, and you don't do away with that cost by getting mad at Elsevier. If you want everything to be "free to anybody who wants a copy," you have two choices:

      1) Create a federal agency that does the job Elsevier does, funded with taxpayer money, which isn't trying to earn a profit, and mandate that all taxpayer funded scientific research must be published through that federal agency;

      2) Mandate that all grant money MUST publish to "some open access" platform, and make that a condition of the grant award.

      If you do #1, you've created what's almost certain to be a politicized, inefficient government bureaucracy which will arguably find a way to simply cost more than the 2.7 bn in revenues Elsevier takes in, and you've also essentially "nationalized" Elsevier by legislating them out of existence, because as others have pointed out... there's a massive amount of research that's funded by taxes these days.

      If you do #2, well, the situation remains the same as it is today - Elsevier will still be a for-profit agency charging an average of $10,800 per paper to publish, and researchers will just ask for a little more money to cover their anticipated publishing costs.

      Really, this isn't exactly "fuck you" money that's being gouged out of every researcher. I'm not sure I think either solution is an improvement, but I'd favor #2 if it came down to it. On a per-paper basis, Elsevier isn't exactly making "fuck you" money, I'm not sure that getting mad at them (instead of the government, for not mandating Open Access publication) makes sense.

    11. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think you might mean "attempts to reproduce." "Peer review" occurs before the paper is published. The author submits the paper to the journal or conference, the editor of the publication sends copies of the paper to experts in the field (generally other researchers who have already been accepted to the journal/conference), and those experts, peers of the author, review the paper and make recommendations. After reading the feedback from the reviewers, the editor may choose to reject the paper, publish the paper, or ask the author for revisions.

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    12. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by pepty · · Score: 2
      All of the NIH funded research is available after 1 year. So you don't have to pay once more if you are willing to wait.

      I think university libraries (the principal customers for these publishers) will be the ones who successfully force a transition to either open access or cheap-access publications; budgets are too tight for them to be able to afford to keep supporting the current model.

    13. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your argument make the incorrect assumption that an open-access approach would have the same costs that a closed-access model has. Much of Elsevier's costs are directly attributable to their sales model and would vanish in an open-access world.

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    14. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by pepty · · Score: 2

      Taxpayer funding does stipulate that - when it comes from the NIH.

    15. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by pepty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      1. Done:

      http://publicaccess.nih.gov/

      2. Done:

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/

      (if you discount the value of immediate access to research, that is)

    16. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by Americano · · Score: 2

      Which costs do you imagine will disappear?

      They still have to accept submissions, evaluate them, farm them out for review, decide which to accept, publish them, and then make them available in perpetuity.

      I find it doubtful that any of these costs would be reduced in any substantial fashion by a transition to open access publication. In fact, it's likely that "easy, free, open access" to 250,000 articles per year would require them to invest in significant upgrades of their infrastructure, with attendant staff and hardware expansion to go along with that. So they lose a few sales people, and have to hire a bunch of new IT guys to build out a new data center or two.

    17. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They still have to accept submissions, evaluate them, farm them out for review, decide which to accept, publish them, and then make them available in perpetuity.

      But they don't do the evaluation and decisions on which to publish. That is done by unpaid reviewers and editors.

      it's likely that "easy, free, open access" to 250,000 articles per year would require them to invest in significant upgrades of their infrastructure,

      Much of their infrastructure is related to payment processing and restricted document delivery. None of that would be required in an open-access model. In addition, some of their costs are attributable to printing physical copies of articles, which would not happen in an open-access model (or could be done by a third party for payment).

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    18. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by femtobyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Creating "non-profit" university publishers will cost every taxpayer more money, because the people that will have to be hired to do this work will not be doing it for free, and instead of being paid for indirectly by grants (which can be taxpayer or private), they'll be on the taxpayer payroll.

      As opposed to the taxpayer paying for all those things *plus* massive private profits by having private publishers do this? This will *save* the taxpayer money, because the taxpayer is *already* paying for all of Elsevier's work *and* profit margins.

      IEEE is $185 a year, for which you get Spectrum and continual offers of life insurance. ACM is a more reasonable $99. ACS is $151.

      Oooh, newspaper delivery prices! If $185 is "wacky" on your engineer's salary, you should consider looking for employers better able to use your skills than being a McDonald's fry chef. And, given my university's library budget for covering Elsevier's extortion costs, I'm (or, my research group) is already losing *way* more than $200 per person in journal costs.

      Whether you like it or not, the professional publishers do provide a service that isn't free, so paying them for that service isn't unreasonable.

      Paying for the actual costs of providing said services is reasonable. But Elsevier also gets this thing called "profit," where they rake in a billion dollars *more* than they need to pay for every single one of their own costs. They also arrange to provide services to maximize *profit,* rather than *services* --- at the expense of article availability to researchers. I suspect that, without the costs related to building elaborately paywalled restricted access archives, one could distribute Elsevier's content completely freely for a lot less than it costs to run Elsevier's profiteering operation.

      If you want free journal articles, perhaps you should write the author and get a preprint?

      Because maybe the author is dead, or might have better things to do than deal with personally handling the distribution of articles that a journal should be responsible for? If individual authors are supposed to handle archiving and distributing their own articles, then what are university libraries paying Elsevier's archive access extortion fees for?

    19. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      Limited to people who are experts in the field and know what they're doing? I'm going to go with a qualified "yes".

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    20. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by Raenex · · Score: 2

      It's really not "huge compensation" until they've scaled their organization to thousands of employees around the world, publishing thousands of journals & tens of thousands of books.

      You are backing up the argument made in the article, which is that they jacked up prices and profit margins by becoming a big player in an inelastic market:

      "Companies like Elsevier developed in the 1960s and 1970s. They bought academic journals from the non-profits and academic societies that ran them, successfully betting that they could raise prices without losing customers. Today just three publishers, Elsevier, Springer and Wiley, account for roughly 42% of all articles published in the $19 billion plus academic publishing market for science, technology, engineering, and medical topics. University libraries account for 80% of their customers. Since every article is published in only one journal and researchers ideally want access to every article in their field, libraries bought subscriptions no matter the price. From 1984 to 2002, for example, the price of science journals increased nearly 600%. One estimate puts Elsevier's prices at 642% higher than industry-wide averages.

      These providers also bundle journals together. Critics argue that this forces libraries to buy less prestigious journals to gain access to indispensable offerings. There is no set cost for a bundle, instead providers like Elsevier structure plans in response to each institution's past history of subscriptions."

      On a per-unit basis, their profits are pretty modest.

      But on a profit margin basis, they are very big:

      "Another [means of analysis] is to look at their profit margins. Elsevier's profit margins of 36% are well above the average of 4%-5% for the periodical publishing business. Its hard to imagine that no one could do the centuries old business of publishing papers at lower margins."

      Really, this isn't exactly "fuck you" money that's being gouged out of every researcher.

      Yes, it is. Try reading the article.

    21. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, no, that's always been the way peer review works. You do work, submit it to a journal, and the journal has to decide whether to publish it or not. The editor can't possibly be as expert in every aspect of the field as people actively researching it, not only because everything is super specialized below the grain of the journal (i.e., you may be the editor of "The Journal of Bird Research," but you can't expect to be equally expert on ostrich mating and parrot evolution), but also because by definition, publishable papers containing new research contain things you haven't been able to know before. Also, you need independent active experts to review the paper to look for errors or quackery and to judge whether or not the research is relevant or compelling. So, peer review has nothing to do with whether a journal is freely available or behind a paywall. Even a freely published journal would still employ peer review in deciding which papers to publish and which papers to reject.

      This article is about what happens after the publication. Whether the journal is freely available, or whether you have to pay to read it. Again, I think you're getting mixed up between "peer review" (part of the editorial process that helps determine which papers a journal decides to publish) and the manner in which papers are available after publication (freely available for download and distribute, or locked behind a paywall).

      Papers being behind a paywall doesn't hurt the scientific validity of the papers published. Really, the problem is that it's rent-seeking dickishness on the part of the publishers.

      In grad school I worked at a research laboratory and was co-author on a few papers. I was also a peer reviewer for a few. Really, they were sent to my faculty advisor, and he farmed out the work to the grad students. This wasn't a bad thing...of course he reviewed our reviews before sending them on, and we learned about the process and I did my part as a member of the scientific community. But yeah, papers containing the research we did at a public land grant University (meaning facilities paid for by public tax dollars) and under tax-funded grants from the National Science Foundation and the NSA, peer-reviewed for free by other researches like ourselves and accepted for publication are now locked behind paywalls. I actually can't download and read papers that have my name on them as co-author (assuming I didn't keep original copies).

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    22. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by femtobyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You missed the point that not all grants are tax-funded. Corporations also provide grants to do research, as do private foundations.

      (a) what fraction is this in most fields? In particle physics (my own area), I've never seen any privately funded research --- but we're stuck with Elsevier journals.
      (b) regardless, why should private grants paying extra for Elsevier's profits be any better? Wouldn't a private granter be happier paying less for non-profit journal systems, too?

      Except there is no newspaper. There's a monthly magazine.

      OK; you don't see the value in professional organizations. Others do --- including value beyond delivering magazines to our door, such as organizing conferences, scholarships, promoting research, even *providing journals better for the progress of science than profiteering schmucks.*

      That's how capitalism works. People who risk money get to profit when the risk pays off.

      And, when you lock in a monopoly position (such as is granted through exclusive intellectual property rights to journal articles), you can hoover up mega profits! Some of us don't think Capitalism is a good idea even in the *best* of cases, but this is the very *worst* of Capitalism --- the hideous face of monopolistic moneygrubbing.

      The "extortion" fees are because they are making it more convenient for you to get the information, a service which costs real money.

      Elsevier's profit margins are *absolute proof* that these services could be provided for at least 30% lower cost. With charges that range into hundreds of thousands of dollars per year per institution for hosting a few tens of thousands of PDF pages of archive material, do you seriously think this couldn't be done ***way*** cheaper (such as at the rates consistently provided by non-profit journals, which are often ~10% of Elsevier's fees for similar services)?

    23. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 2

      Congress just recently passed legislation saying that any papers produced and at least partially funded by the NIH must be made public within one year of publication. This, of course, is dependent upon the NIH making an actual database for this, and Cthulhu only knows how long that will take.

      http://publicaccess.nih.gov/

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    24. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 2

      Well, the universities are (partially) funded by taxes, but most research-producing profs teach at or near the same rate as non-researching profs (typically 3/4 teaching load is considered the ideal situation), so the taxpayers are getting their money's-worth - actually, when you figure in how many graduate students teach for a fraction of what profs are paid, research-producing profs and their groups are actually a better value.

      Now, research is rarely funded by the university itself, about 90-95% of research funding comes from outside sources - and the "internal" sources are still from university foundations and endowments, not taxpayer funds or tuition.

      You can say, "But the university provides facilities for the research!" and this is true. But remember each research group typically saves about $100K in professor salaries annually, not to mention making the university more attractive to undergrads, thus increasing the university's appeal and allowing it to charge more for tuition.

      Anyway, my point here is that saying "But the taxpayers paid for this research through university funds!" is by no means a clear-cut argument.

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    25. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by tsa · · Score: 2

      Don't forget that the scientists also have to pay a hefty sum per page (usually around US$100,-) to publish their stuff. And then the publishers still have the nerve to ask the scientists to do most of the formatting for them too.

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    26. Re:Because it's valuable, duh. by the+gnat · · Score: 2

      Congress just recently passed legislation saying that any papers produced and at least partially funded by the NIH must be made public within one year of publication. This, of course, is dependent upon the NIH making an actual database for this

      This has been policy for several years now, and the NIH does indeed have an actual database for this. Apparently they are known to call up investigators who are tardy uploading their papers (some journals do this automatically, but usually not the big commercial publishers).

  2. Open Source Pharmaceuticals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Working on my own distro of Viagra. I hacked in some cough drop medication and now I have a stiff neck.

    1. Re:Open Source Pharmaceuticals by tommituura · · Score: 2

      Journal subscription fees (and scientific publishing business models) have nearly nothing to do with pharmaceutical research and safety/effectiveness testing costs. Troll harder, please.

  3. Re:Authors need to eat somehow by Mitreya · · Score: 5, Informative

    The authors and peer reviewers need to be able to afford to live or they can't write!

    True as that may be -- if only the authors or peer reviewers got any of that money! But since they don't, your point is kinda irrelevant.

    I have never made any money either submitting or reviewing for journals/conferences. I hear sometimes you even have to pay to get your work published (fortunately not in my field)

  4. Elsevier blocks textbook donations by craighansen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I recently attempted to purchase multiple textbooks for a donation to a teacher offering a non-profit course, and was blocked from purchasing new textbooks because, according to Amazon.com, multiple purchases of a single book are forbidden by the publisher. Amazon.com had plenty of copies available, they just weren't allowed to sell them to me.

    I contacted Elsevier on their website, and they were unavailing.

    My response was to purchase used copies instead, for which the teacher was very grateful, but I had wanted to do better for her.

    The end result was zero direct revenue.

  5. false choices by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FTFA:

    Scientistsâ(TM) work follows a consistent pattern. They apply for grants, perform their research, and publish the results in a journal. The process is so routine it almost seems inevitable. But what if itâ(TM)s not the best way to do science?

    - yeah, that's a false choice.

    Private companies do science all the time because they need to push their knowledge forward to stay competitive.

    By the way, who is preventing any scientist from publishing his papers anyway he or she likes at all? Who is standing in their way just throwing the stuff on some free Internet site, like, I don't know this or even this silly site?

  6. Re:Because that's how capitalism works. by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is quite possibly the most ignorant comment I've ever read about scientific publishing. Capitalism has nothing to do with science, the vast majority of published research is funded through grants handed out by the government. Nobody does basic research for profit. The public has already paid for the research, all the products of that research should be completely free.

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  7. Re:time for journaleaks.org? by houghi · · Score: 2

    I was thinking more in the line of Journalwikipedia.org where people could publish under Creative Commons. And then others can review it and those reviews will be public too.

    From a technical point of view, this should not be too hard. The hard part will be to be taken seriously and get some importand names on board.

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  8. Re:Because that's how capitalism works. by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 2

    There isn't. The money goes to funding the journals themselves and keeping the curation high-quality. Most research money comes from grants: either the government or an interested corporation. Some of the funding for those grants comes from technology transfer or profit, but most comes from tax money. As most subscribers to scientific journals are research institutions anyway, the model you describe would just move money back and forth between universities.

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  9. Impact Factor by tstrunk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The only reason scientists publish in journals behind paywalls is because they need the "Impact Factor" of the journal to put the publication on their CV so they can get better jobs and / or recognition among their peers. It's a vicious circle and one that science needs to leave

    A few scientists organized an Elsevier boycott last year http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/01/27/1322234/scientists-organize-elsevier-boycott and I had an idea back then, which I copy and paste here:
    """
    My solution for this would be a public network of papers, where everybody can publish, read and ‘sign’ those papers. If you agree with a paper, you put your signature under it and the worth of this paper goes up. As your ‘worth’ goes up your signature also gains in weight, when signing other papers. Every paper gets a comment section, where reviews can be written and errors pointed out.

    If a well known professor therefore signs your work, others will catch up to it. A ‘good’ paper will gain in publicity quickly due to being sent around a lot. One would also need to include a system of diminishing returns, as to avoid groups signing only their own papers. Ironing out these points of abuse will be the hardest part of this system.

    The specification above only consists of four to five sentences and yet I would call it much more stable and open than the currently completely anonymous reviewing system.
    """

    1. Re:Impact Factor by joe_frisch · · Score: 2

      Its not just the scientists. Laboratories are judged (and to some extent funded) based on the total impact of their publications. You get there with a few easy steps:

      1) public decides that funding science is good
      2). lots of organizations compete for limited funding
      3). Public needs to decide how to allocate funding and needs a metric for measuring the performance of these organizations
      4) Public decides that peer review is a good metric
      5) Important publications are sent to the journals that have other important publications, those that are rejected go to lower level journals. This establishes a hierarchy of journals.
      6). The public considers publishing in higher "impact" journals as representing more value.

      It is all logical, and a difficult system to fix. If I have a really good publication, I am hurting my career and my laboratory and coworkers by not publishing it in one of the premier journals. I'm even hurting science because by publishing in a lower impact journal, my (presumed brilliant and important) publication will be read by fewer scientists.

      As an aside, a lot of the published material is also available to the public for free (all my stuff is also in SLAC pubs as is required by DOE), but these do not rate as high on a google search so you will have a more difficult time finding them. Google, like everyone else, gives higher ratings to the prestigious journals.

      I wish I knew how to fix this. It is quite frustrating that 3rd party companies are paid for my work. To add insult to injury, I often review papers for these journals - and am not paid for the reviews. I could turn down the review requests, but peer review IS a vital part of science.

      To the previous poster - the problem with non-anonymous reviews is the risk of "trading" good reviews, retaliation etc if the reviewers are known. Scientists are people, as easily tempted to misbehavior as any other group.

    2. Re:Impact Factor by joe_frisch · · Score: 2

      Your scheme has merit. Its complicated though, in a lot of fields there are only a very small number of experts who are qualified to review a paper, and you would need some way to get the "right" people doing the reviews. A paper with a provocative title like Kip Thorne's "Wormholes, Time Machines and the Weak Energy Condition" is likely to attract a hoard of people who are in no way qualified to evaluate the work. We see the same effect on Slashdot where a very technical article will be referenced and there will be a few comments from knowledgeable people, a lot will be from people who don't have the background to understand the original article.

      Still - I absolutely agree that we need a fix, but it is a tricky problem.

  10. Elsevier sucks by Sir+Holo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is tough to determine where to publish... It is in part the responsibility of the young publisher (scientist) to know the reputation of the journal(s) to which s/he publishes. Although there has indeed been a flood of brand-new and un-pedigreed online-only journals, it is really up to the researcher to decide where to publish. Indeed, there have existed for many years "vanity journals," and conference-"proceedings" journals, to which aspiring assistant Profs. can contribute, but which have impact factors of less than one.

    Conference papers are one thing, but "real" publications are another thing entirely. Web-of-Science tries to explicitly avoid such gray-zone publications mentioned in a recent NYT article, and also, many top-tier journals do not consider "publication" in a conference proceedings to supersede, effectively, public dissemination of a work. That is, it doesn't count.

    I can say, from the perspective of an early-career and young CV-builder, that it is very difficult to figure out which journals in one's particular field are preeminent and worthy of submission of good work, but also, which "outlets" are not worthy of disclosure of "new" work or results. To be safe, a lot of us youngsters just stick to APL and JAP, simply because we know that they are (a) reputable with reasonable IFs, and (b) because we know we can get good work published in them. Branching out to other journals is fraught with risks; publication-wise, it is a difficult lottery. But, as the NYT article puts it, and as anyone who has observed, for example, Elsevier's for-profit actions in publishing papers from vanity conferences, one can get just about anything into print, for the right price.

    It is a significant risk, however, to publish in one of the new online-only journals. (What happens if they go bankrupt? Can you legally provide reprints?) The very real risk for anyone publishing in a for-profit online-only journal is, well, will your work be accessible in 10 years? 30 years? You grant a journal copyright when you publish, and in return, well, what do you get? Traditionally, you know that your work is in print in many scientific libraries across the world. But with an online-only and for-profit journal, you are granting them the same rights––are you guaranteed that your work will be accessible to all for the foreseeable future? No, you are not. When IP rights are in private control, they can change hands, at any time, as upon sale.

    Long story short––The existing model of non-profits owning copyrights to half of scientists' work is the standard (odious as that may be), but, a move to for-profit and online-only journals will only exacerbate the situation. Your life's work could end up inaccessible to anyone, if a for-profit enterprise (like Elsevier) decides that making-available of copies of your work is not profitable. Remember, you grant the journal copyright... That is where these online-only, and for-profit journals are headed. This sort of thing has happened over and over again in the past, under copyright, with movies, scripts, musical recordings, etc. Do you want to put science under the same yoke of private ownership of dissemination?

    Ask yourself: Should my work be made available for only 5 years? Or should it be made available in perpetuity to the readers of the journal to which I submit my work? Really, how valuable is your contribution? If in 50 years, there is someone with a question that can be answered by your work, should it not be available? (This is not fantasy. For example, space groups were fully developed 40 years before x-ray diffraction allowed the interpretation of crystal structures of materials based on diffraction-pattern symmetries.)

    Do you want your discoveries either locked up in copyright limbo, or lost in a region of cyberspace gone fallow? No. Science is a progression, and should not be stunted by any potential lack of accessibility, short-term or long.

    That is, OP, just agreeing with you that it's a problem, but one that hasn't found a solution yet.

  11. It's even worse by Rhywden · · Score: 4, Informative

    I recently wanted to get access to a single article from a magazine for teachers because I wanted to do something different this time and the name of the article promised an interesting viewpoint.

    However, my school did not subscribe to that magazine and it was an issue from 2004 to boot. So I went to Wiley's website and they offered me the option to buy a time-restricted access to that six(6)-page article. Yeah, you read that right: Shell out money and if you don't download the article as a PDF (which they offer, by the way) you lose access again. Doesn't really make sense but, hey...

    Anyway, put that article into the "cart" and proceeded to the checkout. 40€. For a single article. From a magazine which costs 90€ per year if you subscribe to it as a private person (4 issues a year, 7-8 articles per issue). Where the articles are written by teachers for other teachers.

    So I drove the 20 minutes to my local university after my school day had ended and photocopied the pages for 0.18€.

    Screw those guys.

  12. Mongols by WillgasM · · Score: 2

    to keep the Mongols at bay, or course.

  13. The journal Science is by a non-profit by dlenmn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To be fair, the journal Science is run by a non-profit, the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS). I think it's still behind a paywall, but I have less problem funding a non-profit that way.

    1. Re:The journal Science is by a non-profit by dlenmn · · Score: 2

      Apparently new Science articles are behind a paywall for 1 year; then they available for free (although you have to register with the site).

  14. Publishing in academic journals by twasserman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Anyone pursuing an academic career knows that there are certain journals that are considered prestigious. Publishing your papers in such journals (typically those of professional societies and many of those owned by Elsevier, Springer, and Wiley) is an essential part of the academic promotion process. Failure to do so means that you are unlikely to be promoted to a senior tenured rank (e.g., Associate Professor), and is typically the end of your stay at that institution. Publishing in some of the new "fake" journals is worse than useless, even though it pads your resume. Many fields also look down upon conference papers, though that is less of a problem in computer science where there are numerous highly selective and well-regarded academically-oriented conferences, such as the Int'l Conf. on Software Engineering. Not surprisingly, many of the proceedings for those conferences are published by Elsevier and Springer.

    The whole process, to date, is self-perpetuating, since serving as an Editor or Associate Editor for a prestigious journal also gets you points when you come up for promotion. As noted by others, serving in an editorial capacity or even as a reviewer for these journals is uncompensated. (You might think of it as falling into the same category as contributing voluntarily to an open source project.) The best that one can say for this activity is that it helps build an academic network, making it easier to obtain recommendation letters from senior faculty to include in your promotion case. The best way to disrupt this system in the short-term is for libraries refuse to renew their exorbitantly-priced journal subscriptions. (Money talks.) The high-quality online journals (e.g.,PLoS) have not yet made a significant dent against the biggest academic publishers.

  15. Re:Because that's how capitalism works. by femtobyte · · Score: 2

    Well, the part of the overall system that produces science is clearly *not* Capitalism (rather, depending on specifics, somewhere along the socialist to communist spectrum of organizational principles). Seizing profits from private corporations to use for the public good (through non-profit-seeking institutions) isn't Capitalism --- though it does seem to be an awfully great way to get world-class research done that private industry has no interest in providing. Yes, major sectors of the US economy are Capitalistic --- but, so far as the research sector is concerned, accumulation and investment for private profit is not the force driving production --- only the *subversion* of Capitalism, to expropriate private wealth for the public good, generates the immense wealth of scientific knowledge produced through publicly-funded research.

  16. Re:Because that's how capitalism works. by femtobyte · · Score: 2

    A whole lot of cutting edge research was done for decades in the USSR under communist rule --- you can argue that wasn't true communism, but it sure wasn't Capitalism either. One might likewise say that the Capitalist sector wouldn't be sustainable without drawing on an immense amount of support from anti-Capitalist institutions.

  17. Re:If it's not on arxiv, it doesn't count? by amaurea · · Score: 2

    As a follow up, I'll note that I work in one of the arXiv-heavy fields (astronomy), and I never read any of the journals - nor does anybody I know. Instead we check for new articles ono the arXiv in the morning, where they appear the day after they were uploaded by the authors. There are usually 10-50 such papers per day in my field, depending on how narrow I want to be, and looking for interesting papers based on their titles and abstracts only takes a few minutes per day.

    The immediacy this implies is a huge advantage which greatly speeds up the rate at which science is done. For example, a while ago a controversial paper was published on the arXiv claiming evidence for an exotic theory, and after 3 weeks 3 independent teams had attempted to reproduce their results and found no evidence for the claim. This turnaround is completely unprecedented in fields which rely on traditional journals, where one must expect to wait 6 months or so for the paper to be published.

    While we don't read journals in my field, we still submit our papers to them, and do our best to have them published, because the journals still provide one important service: They coordinate the process of peer review. Sure, the peers are just other researchers like us, who do not get paid for their reviews, just like the journals do not pay us for our articles (in fact we have to pay quite a lot in page charges when our papers are published), but as it is, journals are the only way peer review is organized. Or put another way, peer review is the thin string in which the life of the traditional journals hangs.

    The ideal solution for us in arXiv-dominated fields would be dedicated peer review services which would take over the role of coordinating peer review, but do so for free (after all, that coordination is less work than the free peer review itself), and which would digitally sign papers that have passed review. ArXiv could then display an icon on the pages of these papers, indicating which peer review service has signed the paper.

    If this were put into place, and managed to get over the initial hurdle of building up a good reputation, then the traditional journals could be banished completely from our field.

  18. $2,500 to $5,000 per article by peter303 · · Score: 2

    Nature, another annoying paywall journal (but very good), had a detailed study about two months ago on the of publishing an article in both print and pure electronic forms. This even assumed reviewers work for free. They included editorial staff, printing, distribution, archiving and all that stuff. Journals recover costs through subscriptions, author charges, and society fundraisers. In one society I am in the annual commercial convention is the largest fundraiser.

  19. vanishing new journal racks in libraries by peter303 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I used to like to browse the print editions of journals in reserach libraries. These have shrunk by 80% - 90% as many libraries switch to as-much-as-you-can-electronic policy. Plus its difficult to get electronic browsing permissions if you are just a visitor.

    1. Re:vanishing new journal racks in libraries by Selanit · · Score: 2

      I'm systems librarian at an academic library, and at most places you can get full access if you can use a computer on the university campus. The publishers grant access based on IP ranges, and it only make sense to give them the whole campus range so that faculty can use the databases from their offices. So if you can use a campus computer, you can get the library's digital holdings.

      At my own library, we have a policy of allowing unlimited guest access for library research. If you walk up to the reference desk and say "I'm conducting research on Topic X and I need to use Database Y," we'll happily issue you a guest account for the campus network. The guest account lasts a week, but we'll renew it as long as you're still doing research.

      The harder part is off-campus access. Our guest accounts won't work for logging in from off campus, due to ITS policy. Also, our contracts with the publisher place pretty severe restrictions on who is allowed off-campus access. We can't even give it to our alumni. Not even if they offer to pay a fee. It annoys the heck out of me.

      The whole current academic publishing model is lousy for everyone but the publishers. Access is limited, the licensing is expensive and prices go up every freaking year. Meanwhile library budgets aren't even close to keeping pace. It's pretty common to have to cut something in order to retain access to something else. Makes me long for the days when we just bought physical books and journals -- you pay for them once, and then you have them. This paying year-after-year-after-year thing is for the birds.

  20. bring back copyright laws to the original terms by devent · · Score: 3

    Solution is easy: bring back copyright laws to the original terms. 14 years plus 14 year extension, and only for registered works.

    I don't think a publisher will register each and every of the 250,000 articles, and even if, at least the article would be available after only 14 years. The scientists can still publish with a publisher, the publisher could still sell the articles, but the articles wouldn't be locked away for 200 years (or whatever the copyright terms are currently).

    You wonder if the Mickey Mouse Extension Act of 1998 have any cost to the public? Here you have it.

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    http://www.mueller-public.de - My site http://www.anr-institute.com/ - Advanced Natural Research Institute
  21. Scam of the century by Helio+Spheric · · Score: 2

    Paid access to knowledge is the biggest scam of the century. Scientists sometimes have to pay to have their papers published, and sign away their copyright. They are kept in check with the so-called peer-review process which ensures that they play by the rules: support the status quo (ie the money making machine), or we'll trash your reputation, or ban you from being published. That people can hold knowledge hostage to money is morally reprehensible.

  22. The way I see it... by spyke252 · · Score: 2

    Researchers should sell journals a "License" that allows the journal to print the researchers IP, but the researcher still owns the IP and can sell other people the license as well.