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No New S-300 Air-Defense System To Syria Says Russia — But Maybe Old Ones
An anonymous reader writes "Yesterday, Russia's Foreign Minister declared that Moscow would not sell any new surface-to-air missiles to Syria, although there is a catch. He said old contracts are being honored. Could old contracts just be code for an already signed, but undisclosed deal for the S-300? Lavarov certainly left the door open: '...when questioned in particular about the S-300, his reply was not clear if the "earlier contracts" were for the S-300 or something else.' With Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu going to the Black Sea town of Sochi early next week for talks with President Vladimir Putin, it seems they may have something to talk about."
Unless you live in Russia or Syria, it's not, and shouldn't be, your problem.
Netanyahu to Visit Putin, Discuss S-300 Sale
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/167922#.UY7gcnDlN0M
He is meeting with Putin because Putin has told him that any more Israeli strikes will have him land S 300PMs, I believe that's the one, the next day in Syria.
Since he said that there have been no more strikes.
Do these S-300s run Linux or something?
They make MILITARY news sites for this sort of thing.
Hey, much love on my part for modern weapons tech, but on Slashdot this is clutter.
Any techies who are interested know how to keep track of such events.
Anyone interested also knows any missile systems sold to Syria can be countered by standoff weapons launched from outside Syrian airspace in most cases. Extended range JDAMs and Spice kits mean expensive anti-aircraft missiles would have to be used against small, relatively inexpensive, "smart bombs".
Those can also be used to destroy Syrian aircraft in their shelters as well as SAM sites.
http://defense-update.com/20130505_israeli-standoff-attack-capability-against-terrorists.html
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they would turn them into surface to surface targeting rebel donkey carts transporting CIA supplied surface to air missiles come surface to surface missiles that in turn target government donkey carts. In general the only things that will blow up are innocent Syrian kids and donkeys.
With Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu going to the Black Sea town of Sochi early next week for talks with President Vladimir Putin, it seems they may have something to talk about.
Well that's not surprising, they have been practically pleading with the Russians not to go ahead with these sales. Usually the Israelis are pretty defiant but they have been unusually spooked at the prospect of S-300s sales to Syria.
It's the only way to keep the war going.. peace would be a real disaster in this business.
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I may have read to much H.P. Lovecraft and Charlie Stross, but when I first read the headline, my initial reading was that Russia would be given shoggoths to Syria. That would have been interesting. It will be interesting to see if any deal does go through, and the fact that Syria wants these is interesting given that the rebels have had little access to aircraft. Syria probably wants it to help prevent intervention in the ongoing civil war.
yes I think so they would turn them into surface to surface targeting rebel donkey carts transporting CIA supplied surface to air missiles come surface to surface missiles that in turn target government donkey carts. In general the only things that will blow up are innocent Syrian kids and donkeys.
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Putin and Netanyahu (for non-Isrealie speak 'net in yahoo') have something other than sex to talk about .... Lovely !
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ny-times-scrubs-mention-of-cia-arming-syrian-rebels/5302360
I'd recommend against adding racism to your obvious ignorance, however. Even though that feeling is dependent on the possibility that you have a sense of human dignity, which is certainly slim.
How about once the Syrians and that's a big if they ever get them up and running, they don't want Stealth fighters making mincemeat out of their so called technological advantage or the newest systems falling into CIA hands to be dissected and a new generation jamming pod being developed.
Might this not be an opportune time for the US to stop living up to its image overseas as a big, blundering, international bully and just let the locals fend for themselves?
With a millions of Islamic loonies on their doorstep, and their own disasters in Afghanistan and Chechnya to remind them, one would think that the Russians would have better sense than to keep exacerbating and encouraging Middle-Eastern instability.
No, I suppose both powers' energy and defense industries are more important than anybody else's self-determination.
Economic and political pragmatism trumps idealism every time.
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The recent bomb attack in Turkey near the Syrian border had as its target civilians who belong to the same group as Syrians government. They are ANTI the syrian rebels who are now in their town.
There is no such thing as a "Muslim", while to the outside world Islam tends to be presented as one faith (against the world), internally their are many divisions some of which are based on simply which region you are from. And those regions have little to do with todays borders.
The real danger so far is not so much ONE country falling into civil war, but it inevitably spreading as groups outside the first country taking sides and for it then to spread until it is warlord against warlord.
Only the British ever really managed to contain it with their moto of: 'Don't fight or we will kill you'. Remove the "evil" dictator who is supressing the groups and you soon find yourself with out of control groups willing to spend the next 1000 years fighting each other of patches of sand.
Pretty much as Europe was btw until finally after WW2 the EU was formed because constant war was to costly to business. And we in the EU with over half a century of peace still hate each others guts and universally resent the institution that has given us over half a century of peace.
As Douglas Adams said: People are a problem.
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So does this mean Syrian credit is now crap with Russia? If they are selling older systems that very few (or no one more likely) is willing to buy to Syria but not the ones in high demand, it sounds like Russia has just gave Syria junk bond rating of paying off it's debts.
Syria must be seriously broke by now. In comparison to Syria, Israel's economy is doing fantastically well. I think the only payment Syria could make would be to let the Russians have military bases on Syrian soil, and expand Russian naval presence on the Mediterranean.
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A Russian ship is currently visiting Israel, which has many ex-Russian citizens.
Russia has also received title to a large tract of land in downtown Jerusalem, purchased in previous centuries by the Russian Orthodox Church.
The most effective way for Obama to help the Syrian rebels might be to persuade Netanyahu to announce support for the Assad regime, and that the Assads are actually (but secretly) a Jewish family.
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