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The Bronies Get Their Own Charity

blackbearnh writes "There's a long history of media fandoms organizing fundraising campaigns, donating blood, and doing other charitable activities. However, even large and well-established groups such as Trekkies/ers and Star Wars fans usually work with established non-fannish charities like the Red Cross or Toys for Tots. Some may see them as a plague on the Internet, the Brony community has taken their charitable endeavors to the next level by going to the trouble of creating a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt public charity. The Brony Thank You Fund received word from the IRS last week that, after nearly a year of work, they had been granted tax-exempt status. The Fund is currently raising donations to endow a permanent animation scholarship at CalArts, and is the same group that made news last year when they became the first fan group to purchase commercial time on national TV, for a 30 second spot praising My Little Pony and encouraging donations to Toys for Tots."

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  1. Brohoof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Brohoof to fellow bronies.
    This is the sort of thing that makes our fandom so great.

    1. Re:Brohoof by Alex+Vulpes · · Score: 2

      (\ Brohoof!

      It's been a couple years since we last had something on Slashdot, so I'm glad to see this up here.

    2. Re:Brohoof by ClioCJS · · Score: 2

      That last thing I want around your kids is a father who characterizes groups of people with false prejudicial strawmen. Hopefully you don't judge your own kids in such an asinine way, or they will be quite damaged.

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    3. Re:Brohoof by femtobyte · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair, I think the show is well written to work on "dual levels": both the little girls watching it, and the parents who might be dragged in to endure spending some time with their children. From actually *watching* episodes, I can attest that the writing has enough to offer to keep an adult entertained, too (so long as you're still capable of appreciating storytelling without constant gory violence, profanity, and explicit sex). It is indeed a matter of taste --- but for folks who enjoy absurdist humor, genre spoofs (which would often be over the head of "target audience" girls), character acting, sight gags / slapstick comedy, running jokes, etc., it's an enjoyable show. Yes, there are plenty of other great hobbies besides watching a TV series --- but that is true of *every* TV series.

    4. Re:Brohoof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is a difference between someone doing what they like despite pressures not to, and someone trying to pressure others to not do what they like for arbitrary reasons. There is nothing wrong with a guy fitting the stereotype of having hobbies like sports, cars, and fishing. However, if said guy goes around and bitches about other people liking things he dislikes and insisting that they shouldn't like something for his own stupid reasons, that is a different story.

    5. Re:Brohoof by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In fact, a bunch of adults forming a fan club for a cartoon and calling themselves "bronies" is creepy too.

      How is it any more creepy than a bunch of adults forming a fan club over a TV show and calling themselves trekkies.

      The "brohoof" stuff is kinda creepy though.

      Live long and prosper, dude.

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    6. Re:Brohoof by Issarlk · · Score: 2

      No, when men are bitching about other men not being masculine it's insecurity.

    7. Re:Brohoof by Allicorn · · Score: 2

      WTG bronies.

      Bring back the 1-April-2006 Slashdot theme to celebrate.

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    8. Re:Brohoof by jythie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering what I see sports fans do....

    9. Re:Brohoof by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 3

      (\ Brohoof back at ya.

      Yes, it's a silly fandom for a kid's show. But it's an amazing community unlike any I've seen on the internet -- and I've seen a lot. The creativity and generosity of this fandom is off the charts, and that's the kind of crowd with whom I'm proud to associate.

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    10. Re:Brohoof by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      The last thing I want around my kids are a bunch of adult men who never emotionally advanced past the 3rd grade.

      I know you are but what am I?

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    11. Re:Brohoof by N0Man74 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They are both equally disturbing.

      Neither is preferable.

      I'm in neither group, but I've seen my share of Star Trek and was at least curious enough to watch an episode of MLP to see what the fuss was about.

      I think that many people find the Idealism of Star Trek appealing. It's not just about spacemen and phasers, and it's not just about exploring space. It carries a lot of idealism about what humans can overcome and become culturally (not just technologically). The idealism resonates with many of the fans.

      Likewise, My Little Pony seems to convey a certain optimism and promotes compassion and empathy (and it was at least mildly amusing).

      I wouldn't go to conventions or anything, but people who are fans of things that are pretty benign and encourage empathy, compassion, idealism, and the bettering of humanity aren't really a bad thing.

      So, when people want to shit on them because the fans don't conform to societal norms of being aggressive, self-serving, materialistic, dominating people kind of come off seeming like assholes to me.

      Maybe they are weird or eccentric, but it a lot more harmless than a lot of things we idolize in this culture.

  2. Call me a neigh sayer by SWroclawski · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess it's good they're doing charity, but it's just so creepy.

    1. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by ClioCJS · · Score: 5, Insightful
      So if a girl likes a guy thing like football or wearing pants that aren't skirts, that's normal.

      But if a guy likes a girl thing, it's clinical fixation disorder.

      You are what is wrong with society.

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    2. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by wierd_w · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, it's clinical fixation disorder when they fill their house with plushies, obcessively decorate their correspondence, make public displays of their obcesson, and insist that these are normal, and not obcessive.

      In short, you can like my little pony all you want. But when you go so far as to modify your life such that it now revolves around that show, and you feel compelled to convert others to your obcesson, then there is a problem.

      There is a difference between intolerance, and refusal to be converted.

    3. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So then a guy who fills his house with sports memorabilia and always wears the team jersey has clinical fixation disorder?

    4. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > In short, you can like my little pony all you want. But when you go so far as to modify your life such that it now revolves around that show, and you feel compelled to convert others to your obcesson, then there is a problem.

      What about religious people whose lives revolve around the religion and they try to convert others to the religion?

    5. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by wierd_w · · Score: 2

      If doing so causes him trouble in his personal life, or causes him emotional harm, yes.

    6. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's just skip to the end: Anyone who likes anything I don't like has a mental disorder.

    7. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Informative

      More like this AC.

      "Anyone who's favored dive is so compulsive that it dominates their emotional lives, at the deficit of other interests and social interactions has a disorder."

      In other words, when your devotion to an object of interest (sports, ponies, animated characters, Jesus, whatever) is so intensely overwelming that it overrides all other interests, and dominates your life, it is mentally unhealthy.

      This is defined by the DSM.

    8. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by wierd_w · · Score: 2

      The irony here is thick enough to apply to sliced bread, and make into a sandwich.

      I said when people's lives revolve around the fixation (the spock ears, et al of your post), *THEN* there is a problem.

      Since those people represent a vocal minority, (not all startrek fans are "trekies". Some just think its fun to watch.) The are not the subject of discussion.

    9. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by ChromeAeonium · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Assuming fandom equals obsession is rather absurd, don't you think? No one is saying obsession is bad, but jumping from MLP fandom straight to obsession, as if trying to imply they are somehow more linked than other obsessions and baselines, is pretty silly. Sure, there are obsessive bronies. There are also sports nuts, crazed foodies, people who played video games to death, animal hoarders, and all sorts of other obsessions out there. The obsessive minority does not define the baseline.

      You average brony is basically just another person, going about life just like everyone else. Everyone likes different things and has different hobbies, just like Trekkies, Whovians, ect. This just so happens to be something we like.

    10. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Pentium100 · · Score: 2

      But he is secretly wishing he could murder all the fans of the other team, smash all the store windows when his team wins and punch somebody when his team loses.
      Stereotypes all the way! After all, it is impossible to like watching a sport without being a hooligan, just like it is impossible to like a TV show that was made to be suitable for kids without wishing to be a kid.

    11. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by wierd_w · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I did not think it needed clarification.

      "Bronies", as a group, a people with this fixation. They are distinctly different from people who simply "like" MLP.

      One is inclusive of the other, but not vise versa. Associating with the show to a level sufficient enough to ascribe a group identity implies membership in said minority.

      Eg, "Bronies" is a subset of the completely harmless "fans of my little pony", in much the same way that "trekkie" is a subset of "people who like watching startrek"

      The subject was about "bronies."

      People who merey like MLP are not explicitly bronies, and mere accessories to the discussion.

    12. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 2

      I see where the problem is now. No, the term "brony" is much more inclusive than you appear to think. As it was first used inside the group, it does not have the pejorative connotations of "trekkie." Most self-labelled bronies are merely avid fans. This survey breaks it down. Only 16% agreed with the statement "[MLP] is my number one priority, all that I can think about."

      For a lot of people in the MLP fandom, it is the only exposure they have had to New Sincerity. It provides a much-needed respite from the negativity of day-to-day life, as well as that of mainstream (and counterculture) media. This is why so many of them are so dedicated to the community (and how this charity came to be.) It doesn't really require obsession or fetishism to maintain critical mass.

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    13. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are there only two levels of interest that you can see: "like" and "obsess"? Is the world so black and white to you that you don't see any middle levels where someone may like something a lot, or say above average, or acknowledge that they would like things enough to make it a hobby or pursue it beyond just the typical means, but not necessarily obsessing?

      A lot of people like video games and play them from time to time, it shouldn't be surprising that there are people who want to identify beyond that, but without claiming to exclusively play video games and do nothing else. Is someone who calls themselves a gamer, plays above average amounts of video games and maybe reads the occasional video game news piece obsessed, especially considering they have other interests and still live out their life? What about people who don't just like food, but want to try to learn how to make it better? Or even more esoteric stuff, while most people probably think Tesla coils are cool, is it obsessive behavior to make a hobby out of building one and calling yourself a "coiler" so other you can quickly communicate your interest with those of similar interests?

      You might as well argue that people should only like things and not have hobbies. Or at least not have hobbies that have a simple name for participants...

    14. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Capsaicin · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, about all those *nix zealots in here...

      I simply refuse to believe that anyone could become so obsessed with *nix, or with computers, or technology in general, that it could adversely affect other aspects of their life, be they social, romantic, personal hygiene etc... Just could not happen!

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    15. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Lotana · · Score: 2

      Let us be honest about ourselves: We are just as disturbed as the 4chan/reddit/something awful communities and don't have a higher ground to judge the bronies fandom.

      Get one of us to talk to a psychologist and he/she will have enough material to keep writing papers for the rest of the career. :-)

    16. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by Eskarel · · Score: 2

      It's not about how much you like it, it's about how you define yourself. You can love things, but when you start thinking and describing yourself in terms of that thing, you're not in healthy territories. I hobby should be something you do, not something you are. You can call yourself a "Brony" or "Trekkie" and not have any dramas, but by doing so you're moving awfully close to an edge. Life is about balance and no single part of it should define who you are.

    17. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by ChromeAeonium · · Score: 2

      And what relevance does this have to bronies?

      It's a classic straw man. There's plenty of average, well adjusted, normal people who consider themselves bronies. A common interest, name, some in jokes, and a maybe few plastic figurines do not constitute a life dominating obsession, but for whatever reason, some people take that as a starting point.

    18. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by wierd_w · · Score: 2

      Social acceptance is definately covered.

      It's one of the 5 major needs in Maslow's heirarchy.

      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

    19. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by wierd_w · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is really quite simple, really.

      When your thing of interest occupies more resources than your other interests, it is becoming unhealthy.

      This is a spectrum, where "perfectly fine" is on the left, and "seriously, see a therapist" is on the far right.

      People who like MLP have a socially questionable preference, but are on the left. People who aggregate to watch MLP, and make group associations with the show, are trending towards the right.

      People who give each other "brohooves" or whatever, feel compelled to denounce people who honestly tell them that they are being excessive as "haters", rather than people who are concerned about them, and who enshrine aspects of MLP in their personal philosophies are well into the right hand side.

      It is hardly black and white.

    20. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Your problem is that you like something more than I would like you to. You need to listen to what I say and spend exactly as much time on your hobbies as I tell you to. If you don't listen to whatever I say, then you're objectively wrong.

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    21. Re:Call me a neigh sayer by fredrated · · Score: 2

      "If I do it, it is good; if you do it, it is creepy" seems to be a common theme of humanity.

  3. Re:Just shoot me now by quasius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People trying to make the world a better place- it's awful!

  4. Can someone explain bronies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is it a prank? rebranded furries? an ironic hipster meme collapsed under its own weight and is now self aware? inquiring minds want to know!

    1. Re: Can someone explain bronies? by blackbearnh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about people who are genuinely appreciative of an animated cartoon with all-ages appeal, quality animation, and great voice work.

      Not everything needs to be some kind of snarky ironic entity. There's room in the world for sincerity, as much as the Internet tries to beat that sentiment into oblivion.

      And for the record, less than 20% of bronies self-identify as furries, the vast majority are heterosexual, and the fandom has nothing to do with pedophilia.

    2. Re: Can someone explain bronies? by femtobyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Real sincerity is the new ironic fake sincerity.

      Actually, the show writing isn't the horrible syrup you might expect --- it's actually made to be tolerable for a parent to watch alongside their kids. There are frequent joke references that would go *completely over* the head of the "target" demographic age, but are thrown in for 20 to 30-year-olds. The voice/character acting is high quality. There is surprisingly little blatant "buy all our playsets and toys!" pushy in-show merchandizing (especially for a kids' TV show produced by a *toy company*). And the main character is a "nerd" portrayed in very positive light --- the show has a refreshing air of anti-anti-intellectualism, and is the opposite of "math is hard! let's go shopping!" Barbie.

    3. Re: Can someone explain bronies? by sunderland56 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not all fettishisms are sexual.

      All of the fun ones are.

    4. Re: Can someone explain bronies? by foniksonik · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've watched every episode and can say without a doubt that the production quality of the show is extremely good. The story arcs are well crafted, the character building is great and even the side plots have a purpose beyond mere entertainment. The only thing I wasn't thrilled about was the Miss America tie in for last season's finale. It fell flat IMHO. The finale itself was good though.

      Gotta say I'm a Pinkie Pie fan, her slapstick comedy routines are timed perfectly. She did a spit take in one episode that had me ROFL.

      If I were to place MLP with a peer set of TV series it would be Breaking Bad, The Wire, DragonBallZ, FireFly, Cowboy BeeBop and maybe GOT (it still hasn't proven itself, we'll see how this season wraps up).

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    5. Re: Can someone explain bronies? by wierd_w · · Score: 2

      My experiences with "the fandom" are mostly negative.

      That said, a furry is basically a person who *really* likes images and media dealing with anthropromorphic animal characters.

      It can be harmless appreciation for that kind of depiction, but can also be quite lurid in its manifestation.

      There are several subgenres within the fandom that enjoy things like, "hyperschlongs", "enormous breasts", "spooge shots", and yes, sadly, "Guro" imagery. (Save yourself from the nightmare fuel. Guro is japanese for "gruesome". It is pure disgust made real through explicit imagry. Please don't google it.) Sadly, this also does include a fringe set of zoophiliacs, though the fandom itself tries to disown them I hear.

      My experiences have left me rather jaded with the furry community in general, but I can tolerate the less extreme forms of the community. I prefer to distance myself from them, however. I can only take "It needs a giant penis!" So many times before my tolerance levels reach zero, which happened many years ago.

      In deference to the my little pony following, I have to be subjected to pornographic pinkie pie pics, so I will retisently withhold judgement.

    6. Re: Can someone explain bronies? by ChromeAeonium · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And the main character is a "nerd" portrayed in very positive light

      The creator if the show did state that she wanted the main characters to have a wide variety of traits (the hard working one, the nurturing one, ect) as a kind of 'you can be who you want no matter what it is' message to the target audience of young girls. The nerdy one being the lead was a nice touch.

      Also, a fun bit of trivia /. readers will probably appreciate, an episode once had a that character working with time dilation equations here.

    7. Re: Can someone explain bronies? by Osgeld · · Score: 2

      quality animation? seriously ... the ponies would not have passed as a flash animation 10 years ago, and they say nothing relevant

  5. Re:not charity by blackbearnh · · Score: 2

    1) Unless you think that pretty much every piece of quality animation produced in the last 30 years (Iron Giant, Dexter's Laboratory, everything from Pixar, etc.) is "soul-crushingly-commercial toy-selling animation", you might want to do a little research on CalArts and their animation program.

    2) In addition to the scholarship, the Brony Thank You Fund also donated nearly $20,000 to Toys for Tots, over $10,000 to the College View School, and over $1,600 each to GLSEN and Engineers without Borders in the last 12 months. Bronies for Good (a brony fundraising group) raised over $100,000 to aid an orphanage.

    The only sarcasm I can detect around here is yours...

  6. Re:not charity by femtobyte · · Score: 2

    How many episodes of the show have you watched? I was surprised by the *lack* of soul-crushingly-commercial toy-selling actually in the episodes. And I'm generally an extremely cynical, anti-corporate, anti-capitalist type. There may be plenty of slimy child brainwashing manipulation going on in separate toy ads, but the show material itself seems a lot less marketing-driven than the majority of kid's TV shows.

  7. Kor Memorial Scholarship by ChromeAeonium · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Fund is currently raising donations to endow a permanent animation scholarship at CalArts

    The Klingon Language Institute also has a scholarship so fandom born scholarships are not unheard off.

  8. From a long suffering Cardinals fan: by Hartree · · Score: 5, Funny

    "modify your life such that it now revolves around that show, and you feel compelled to convert others to your obcesson"

    So, what were you saying about Chicago Cubs fans here in central Illinois?

  9. Re:Just shoot me now by readingaccount · · Score: 2

    Pablo Escobar was known to provide to charities and give aid to the poor. Perhaps he was also trying to make the world (or at least his part of it) a better place. Does mean he was particularly nice though.

    Not trying to say the Bronies are as bad as Colombian drug lords, just shooting down your argument.

  10. Heh. by ZorinLynx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Watched the show at the behest of a friend. Liked it, it was very enjoyable. Told a different friend about it.

    She got about ten times more into it than I did. She started a meetup group in New York, then created a brony *convention*. She invited me to come up and help.

    So I did. And I met a bunch of new, fun people in the process.

    I always liked the show, but never took it as far as some of the other fans. The whole thing ended up causing me to meet a large group of fun, quirky people, so overall it was very positive.

    I haven't been too involved in the past year, since a ton of drama started up and I got tired of hearing about it. I'll probably still watch the show, but my days of flying up to NYC for cons is over.

    Though I'll likely be up there to visit friends in the summer. Oh, and Rarity is best pony. Sorry folks. :)

    1. Re:Heh. by Pentium100 · · Score: 2

      I am similar - I like the show, like some of the fanfics, have a few figures but that's it. I'd rather buy a good tape deck than some expensive (custom) figure etc. Don't know of any meetups within ~30km of where I live, but I would probably go to one if there was one and I had time.

      Oh, and Twilight is best pony. And now she is best princess too (Luna is a really close second though).

    2. Re:Heh. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      And now she is best princess too

      RAGE.

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  11. Re:Just shoot me now by Hartree · · Score: 3, Funny

    You just made zombie Baby Hitler cry.

  12. Re:For Geldings only? by blackbearnh · · Score: 2

    I know the original comment was a troll, but I'll state for the record that the Fund will have no say in the administration of the scholarship, CalArts will run it just as they do all their other scholarships. In fact, the IRS was pretty adamant about that point.

  13. hate to admit it, but... by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Daughter (who just graduated high school) watches My Little Pony (the current incarnation, not that horrible 1980's crap), and I've seen a couple episodes, and ... you know ... kids could be watching worse things. The writers don't talk down to the viewer, the dialog is fast and witty and sometimes genuinely funny, and they don't beat you senseless with the moral.

    She was part of a brony group in high school, but about half of them quit when the other half got.... wayyyyy too into it. But that's not necessarily a reflection on the show. Geeks can take anything and make too much of it. (Ahem...)

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  14. Re:Just shoot me now by Garridan · · Score: 2

    You miss the point. "Bronies" making headlines at slashdot is awful.

  15. Re:Stand Tall Bronies by Arancaytar · · Score: 2

    We don't bar women into Engineering or Computer Science

    (Well, we kinda still are in many ways, but we shouldn't and we're working on that, so your point stands.)