I fucking HATE this argument that if something like Linux is not working out for me, I have no reason to criticize because it's free. That's great, so I'll just use Windows then because it gives me less pain, now what? People will spend money if it saves them some pain.
Being free is NOT a reason to abstain being critical of its quality. Nothing gets better if they keep their standards low. I'm not saying Windows 8 is amazing or anything - I do think it was something of a misstep for Microsoft. But after years of trying Linux, always giving up because it was too flakey, or didn't run the software I wanted, or had too many problems with hardware, it's fucking ended as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather live with Windows 8 than try another Linux distro for as long as I live, and don't really give a damn what the zealots think.
I've found bugs in various Linux distro's installers of all places. I consider them worse bugs than what one can find in Windows, mainly because it shows a lack of care and concern about edge-cases.
Fuck I hate Linux (on the desktop) these days. No concern about quality at all.
Shouldn't have posted that. Better to let them wallow in their own ignorance rather than correct them with information which is very, very easy to find on the net. They've already made up their mind because if they really wanted to know the truth, they would have found out by now.
Well, guess we don't need MSDN subscriptions anymore then now that they're fucking useless.
Apart from the fact you hate Microsoft and are probably not willing to listen to reason, MSDN subs are great because they provide access to almost all of Microsoft's software repository. Just because Win 8.1 isn't going to be released early on MSDN does not invalidate the preexisting benefits of having the sub.
Well that's interesting, since my comment is almost a word-for-word copy of the first comment on the respective ArsTechnica article of this story, and that comment got a large number of upvotes and not a single downvote.
The APIs were in the CTP. If nothing changed it shouldn't be as scary as the story indicates. Though it does make for good MS bashing, which is why it's here.
Yeah, people fucking pointed this multiple times (here and elsewhere), but this rather important tidbit was lost among the noise that is misguided Internet rage.
The Internet is extremely good at pushing things out of context or missing that little bit of info that completely changes the meaning of something. Like that image of Will Smith's family looking shocked over Miley Cyrus' act at the VMAs even though the picture-in-picture clearly showed it was Lady Gaga's act. But hey, people love to not pay attention to the details. It's faster that way.
Man you post such a dreary outlook on a guy's life. Some of us have decent employers, leave entitlements, and not such drastic outcomes regarding unemployment.
Oh wait... you're an American! I forgot how completely fucked up your country is and probably not knowing any better.
A lot of the times no longer maintained could stand for 'Project is stable enough'
Strongly disagree. Maintenance isn't just about fixing bugs - it's also about making sure the damn thing keeps running after the environment changes. Newer toolkits, libraries, heck various distro changes can result in an unmaintained project not even compiling anymore without changes, which may or may not be trivial. Maintenance ensures said project can survive while everything changes.
In Windows, maintenance isn't so important because Windows is extremely capable in terms of backwards compatibility. Linux is not quite as capable because of the availability of source for most of its software, as there's an assumption that a recompile is enough in most cases when running on newer distros. But things change enough that maintenance is still an important part, particularly for open-source software. A project without maintenance is something you should stay away from if you think you'll be using it for the long term.
Fine, well if Musk's not going to bother making the IM Armor, I'll make my own! With embedded blackjack and holographic hookers! You know what... forget the suit!
He gave them directly to foreign nationals, end of story. He could have given them to members of congress, state legislators, or the mayor of his home town for christ's sake.
If the system is corrupt, trying to work within the rules of the system is going to lead nowhere. They're far too well-insulated against anything which should rock the boat, and for those who ARE part of the system but aren't quite corrupted yet, there aren't many people willing to risk their necks to rock said boat when it will just straight up again after they're gone.
Or worse, scrapes a question from a forum that I also want answered but no-one replied to, hence duplicating the amount of suck one has to wade through.
Look how long it's taken for people to abandon EA. It's been years since they were considered the worst company ever and they are just now starting to feel that wrath.
Hah! Really? There are previews for Sims 4 now and I guarantee you it will rake in the cash for EA once it's released - particularly since its main audience are generally not dedicated gamers who peruse gaming news sites and probably aren't aware of EA's behavior.
Not to mention, stuff like the latest Humble Bundle being all EA/Origin stuff, which is turning out to be likely the largest bundle in terms of purchases/revenue of all the bundles so far. You're right - gamers are stupid. But I think they're a bit more stupid than you think.
Nah, I get your point. Figured I'd just have a bit of fun at the examples you originally posted, but you're right, the previous poster was way too broad.
People who run servers often have some idea of the ping time to them. I know the ping time to my servers from home even though I can't react at super-human speeds, catch bullets in my teeth, fire lasers from my eyes, or anything of that nature.
Wait... you can't do those things? And you call yourself a system admin? Tisk, tisk, tisk,
I should probably ask, what's wrong with modern versions of Winamp? It's my premier player in Windows because it's brimming with functionality, various bits of which I do use from time to time.
The problem is the mentality that something is only worth doing if it makes you feel better right now. This "solution" only makes things worse. It's like a parent trying to get compliance by bribing their toddler with candy.
I'd like to connect your quote with something another commenter said:
Why do we object so strongly to the idea of teaching children the value of deferred please; that hard work and effort now can produce greater rewards down the line?
Both of you have the same concern as I do - that as a society we only seem to be interested in short-term efforts if they bring immediate rewards (with the exception of perhaps college, but only because so many people have to these days to get a half-decent job it seems). Long-term investment in time and effort is seen as a waste because the payoff might take quite a while to eventuate... and the problem is that not only is this true, it's also not guaranteed that a payoff will even eventuate after all that work.
Short-term effort shows the results reasonably quickly, good or bad. Long-term effort is a difficult thing to justify in our busy lives, so many people avoid it, whether that be consistent exercise, working on a hobby that will take months to produce something half-decent, or indeed, building any skills that aren't strictly necessary to survive.
Exactly, and that's the reason I didn't mention cost in the list of benefits - while free stuff is obviously an incentive, in my case it's not because it's free, but because the product you end up with is overall better than what you'd find using legal alternatives.
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I fucking HATE this argument that if something like Linux is not working out for me, I have no reason to criticize because it's free. That's great, so I'll just use Windows then because it gives me less pain, now what? People will spend money if it saves them some pain.
Being free is NOT a reason to abstain being critical of its quality. Nothing gets better if they keep their standards low. I'm not saying Windows 8 is amazing or anything - I do think it was something of a misstep for Microsoft. But after years of trying Linux, always giving up because it was too flakey, or didn't run the software I wanted, or had too many problems with hardware, it's fucking ended as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather live with Windows 8 than try another Linux distro for as long as I live, and don't really give a damn what the zealots think.
I've found bugs in various Linux distro's installers of all places. I consider them worse bugs than what one can find in Windows, mainly because it shows a lack of care and concern about edge-cases.
Fuck I hate Linux (on the desktop) these days. No concern about quality at all.
Shouldn't have posted that. Better to let them wallow in their own ignorance rather than correct them with information which is very, very easy to find on the net. They've already made up their mind because if they really wanted to know the truth, they would have found out by now.
Couldn't you just stay in the desktop mode and not worry about the tiles then? Hyperbole just ruins any argument you make.
Apart from the fact you hate Microsoft and are probably not willing to listen to reason, MSDN subs are great because they provide access to almost all of Microsoft's software repository. Just because Win 8.1 isn't going to be released early on MSDN does not invalidate the preexisting benefits of having the sub.
Well that's interesting, since my comment is almost a word-for-word copy of the first comment on the respective ArsTechnica article of this story, and that comment got a large number of upvotes and not a single downvote.
So I'm betting I'm right.
The APIs were in the CTP. If nothing changed it shouldn't be as scary as the story indicates. Though it does make for good MS bashing, which is why it's here.
If you're getting friction burns from pr0n, you're missing some of the necessary additional equipment (e.g. a lube of some sort).
Yeah, people fucking pointed this multiple times (here and elsewhere), but this rather important tidbit was lost among the noise that is misguided Internet rage.
The Internet is extremely good at pushing things out of context or missing that little bit of info that completely changes the meaning of something. Like that image of Will Smith's family looking shocked over Miley Cyrus' act at the VMAs even though the picture-in-picture clearly showed it was Lady Gaga's act. But hey, people love to not pay attention to the details. It's faster that way.
Man you post such a dreary outlook on a guy's life. Some of us have decent employers, leave entitlements, and not such drastic outcomes regarding unemployment.
Oh wait... you're an American! I forgot how completely fucked up your country is and probably not knowing any better.
Strongly disagree. Maintenance isn't just about fixing bugs - it's also about making sure the damn thing keeps running after the environment changes. Newer toolkits, libraries, heck various distro changes can result in an unmaintained project not even compiling anymore without changes, which may or may not be trivial. Maintenance ensures said project can survive while everything changes.
In Windows, maintenance isn't so important because Windows is extremely capable in terms of backwards compatibility. Linux is not quite as capable because of the availability of source for most of its software, as there's an assumption that a recompile is enough in most cases when running on newer distros. But things change enough that maintenance is still an important part, particularly for open-source software. A project without maintenance is something you should stay away from if you think you'll be using it for the long term.
Fine, well if Musk's not going to bother making the IM Armor, I'll make my own! With embedded blackjack and holographic hookers! You know what... forget the suit!
I was honestly expecting it to say EVARZ instead of Ever. It would have fit the summary/story a lot more appropriately.
Slashdot is open to all types of people, and even Slashdotters are prone to narcissism (which Facebook encourages, hence is so prevalent with).
If the system is corrupt, trying to work within the rules of the system is going to lead nowhere. They're far too well-insulated against anything which should rock the boat, and for those who ARE part of the system but aren't quite corrupted yet, there aren't many people willing to risk their necks to rock said boat when it will just straight up again after they're gone.
Or worse, scrapes a question from a forum that I also want answered but no-one replied to, hence duplicating the amount of suck one has to wade through.
Hah! Really? There are previews for Sims 4 now and I guarantee you it will rake in the cash for EA once it's released - particularly since its main audience are generally not dedicated gamers who peruse gaming news sites and probably aren't aware of EA's behavior.
Not to mention, stuff like the latest Humble Bundle being all EA/Origin stuff, which is turning out to be likely the largest bundle in terms of purchases/revenue of all the bundles so far. You're right - gamers are stupid. But I think they're a bit more stupid than you think.
Nah, I get your point. Figured I'd just have a bit of fun at the examples you originally posted, but you're right, the previous poster was way too broad.
If the world lost such apps, it would be just that litter bit nicer to live in I think.
Wait... you can't do those things? And you call yourself a system admin? Tisk, tisk, tisk,
*raises hand*
It's $20 for a perpetual license and I had the money. *shrug*
I should probably ask, what's wrong with modern versions of Winamp? It's my premier player in Windows because it's brimming with functionality, various bits of which I do use from time to time.
I'd like to connect your quote with something another commenter said:
Both of you have the same concern as I do - that as a society we only seem to be interested in short-term efforts if they bring immediate rewards (with the exception of perhaps college, but only because so many people have to these days to get a half-decent job it seems). Long-term investment in time and effort is seen as a waste because the payoff might take quite a while to eventuate... and the problem is that not only is this true, it's also not guaranteed that a payoff will even eventuate after all that work.
Short-term effort shows the results reasonably quickly, good or bad. Long-term effort is a difficult thing to justify in our busy lives, so many people avoid it, whether that be consistent exercise, working on a hobby that will take months to produce something half-decent, or indeed, building any skills that aren't strictly necessary to survive.
Let's not jump to conclusions. You might just be a ghost.
Exactly, and that's the reason I didn't mention cost in the list of benefits - while free stuff is obviously an incentive, in my case it's not because it's free, but because the product you end up with is overall better than what you'd find using legal alternatives.