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Yahoo Pinkie-Swears It Won't Ruin Tumblr

Nerval's Lobster writes "Yahoo has agreed to acquire Tumblr for $1.1 billion. As you know, Yahoo is a major corporation with a need to monetize its assets in a way that makes its shareholders happy, leaving open the question of whether it'll alter Tumblr's DNA in order to make the latter more of a significant cash generator. But at least for the moment, Yahoo seems content to leave its new property alone. 'Per the agreement and our promise not to screw it up, Tumblr will be independently operated as a separate business,' read the company's press release. 'The product, service and brand will continue to be defined and developed separately with the same Tumblr irreverence, wit, and commitment to empower creators.' Tumblr CEO David Karp, who has been known to make some very anti-advertising comments in the past, will remain in place. Even so, anyone who likes Tumblr may have some cause for concern, because Yahoo has a history of making high-profile acquisitions that subsequently implode. Back in 1999, for example, it paid over $3 billion for GeoCities, another blogging network that it eventually shut down after years of failing the update the property. In 2005, it acquired popular photo-sharing Website Flickr, which it likewise allowed to languish and die. That same year it bought Delicious, a popular Webpage-bookmarking site, and did exactly nothing with it. So when Yahoo starts off its Tumblr press release with a promise not to screw things up, it's a self-deprecating nod toward all that history. New Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer has been on a bit of a buying spree of late, snatching up startups such as Summly in an attempt to make her company 'cool' and relevant."

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  1. I believe Yahoo, really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yahoo is where the Internet goes to cash out and die.

  2. Geocities as a blogging site? by intermodal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That this article suggests GeoCities was a blogging network tells me this was written by someone who never visited sites hosted by GeoCities.

    Really though, Y! has a horrible track record. The question is, will enough users stay to keep it viable? Will they trust Y! enough to keep putting their efforts as users into the site?

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    1. Re:Geocities as a blogging site? by djsmiley · · Score: 4, Informative

      And flickr isn't dead either,. lol.

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    2. Re:Geocities as a blogging site? by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      That this article suggests GeoCities was a blogging network tells me this was written by someone who never visited sites hosted by GeoCities.

      Really though, Y! has a horrible track record. The question is, will enough users stay to keep it viable? Will they trust Y! enough to keep putting their efforts as users into the site?

      ..what was geocities then?
      what do you think homepages with regular updates were..

      I think the real question is what is yahoo going to do about the popular content on tumblr now that they're footing the bill for transfers.

      https://www.google.com/search?num=30&safe=off&site=&source=hp&q=tumbler+tits+and+ass

      flickr isn't dead though. it still serves it's purpose quite nicely - and has actual paying users.

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    3. Re:Geocities as a blogging site? by pezpunk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      describing Geocities as "a blogging network" is like referring to medieval town criers as social media newsfeeds.

      Geocities was a free web host that provided some primitive site creation tools and injected a bunch of ads. did some people use them to create sites with regular updates? sure. but there was a heck of a lot more "chewbacca ate my balls"and "JEFFROS AWESOME PAGE OF COOL LINKS!!!! (UNDER CONSTRUCTION)" than there was anything else. i don't even think the term "blog" had been minted by the time geocities peaked.

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    4. Re:Geocities as a blogging site? by intermodal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Flickr is probably Yahoo!'s second most useful feature, after its Fantasy Football leagues.

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    5. Re:Geocities as a blogging site? by merchant_x · · Score: 4, Informative

      Check out GeoCities on Tumblr. They post a screen shot of a GeoCities home page every 10 minutes or so.

      http://oneterabyteofkilobyteage.tumblr.com/

    6. Re:Geocities as a blogging site? by rgbscan · · Score: 2

      Agreed. I pay for both every year! Flickr has been routinely updated and upgraded, and the Fantasy Football continues to work well every year. I even switched over my paid league from CBS Sportsline to Yahoo after seeing how well my 'fun' leagues were doing on the Yahoo platform.

    7. Re:Geocities as a blogging site? by meta-monkey · · Score: 2

      Yes, my GeoCities page back in 1996/7 was a fan site for Decent II that I updated exactly twice. Also, it had a different background texture for each page, terrible midi files of Jimi Hendrix songs (why?!?!) and animated gifs I made of spaceships blowing up. It was terrible, but in retrospect, awesome in its terribleness.

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  3. Flickr by carlcmc · · Score: 5, Funny

    The news of Flickr's death has been greatly exagerated ...

  4. Skeptical fungus is skeptical... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, let's take a look here: Tumblr, pre-aquisition, made $13 million in income with reported costs of $25 million. So, they are losing money, surprise, surprise...

    Yahoo comes along and sinks $1.1 billion into the company. Unless they are total fuckwits(a possibility that cannot entirely be ruled out), they are going to want to squeeze that cash back somehow, whether directly by 'monetizing' the Tumblr userbase, or by some farcical theory about a halo effect drawing users to their other properties...

    In what possible universe is a service that is going from "VCs are paying you to use it" to "Yahoo wants to scrape 1.1 billion dollars out of you" going to improve? At best, it might improve in an absolute, technical, sense; but be accompanied by a subscription fee or something. More likely, we'll start to see increasingly aggressive frog-boiling attempts at upping the advertising, theme microtransaction, and other revenues.

    They might realize some incremental efficiencies in terms of web hosting costs, given Yahoo's volume and datacenter operations experience; but unless Tumblr's previous management was wholly incompetent, they were probably already using the cheapest commodity web platforms they could get their hands on, so I find it very hard to believe that there is enough fat to cut to magically fix the situation without end-user pain.

    1. Re:Skeptical fungus is skeptical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps, a few months into the job, Marissa is realizing how bad things really are at Yahoo, and it depresses her, so she's engaging in a little "retail therapy" -- paying way too much for something she doesn't really need in order to feel better about herself.

    2. Re:Skeptical fungus is skeptical... by Lazere · · Score: 2

      I think you're missing something. While what you say is true, she still has shareholders to answer to. They're going to expect the new acquisition to generate revenue in step with how much Y! spent on it. When it fails to, she'll essentially be forced to "monetize" it, which is where the previous management was.

    3. Re:Skeptical fungus is skeptical... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't see how bringing out the speculative accounting hat changes things: yes, it's an 'asset'; but it's an asset whose current rate of return is worse than what you'd get by plunking $500 in a retail-bank savings account... Unless there is a yet greater fool waiting in the wings(who wasn't willing to outbid Yahoo and acquire tumblr now...), Yahoo just turned a huge pile of liquid assets into an asset whose rate of return isn't even positive. Compared to even a low-yield, highly conservative, investement of the money, that's a lot of opportunity cost that they'll need to scrape out of tumblr somehow, probably in a way that its users won't like...

    4. Re:Skeptical fungus is skeptical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He didn't say "women", he said Marissa Meyer. Some people, both men and women, buy things simply because it makes them feel better. Any misogyny was added by you.

    5. Re:Skeptical fungus is skeptical... by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      My guess is they bought it for the same reason Google made Plus.....to get user information from a bunch of people so they can sell it to advertisers. Facebook did it first, then Google, now Yahoo wants into the game.

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  5. Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yahoo is where the Internet goes to cash out and die.

    I was skeptical at first - I was thinking she was buying shit up like what's her face at HP years ago for the sake of buying shit up.

    Then It downed on me. What do all of those websites have in common?

    Registered users. Many of whom with real and pretty accurate personal profiles.

    Merge all that data together - not hard at all - and BINGO! She's got a multibillion dollar portfolio of people's profiles for ...wait for it .... aaw man! ...

    Yeah, that's right, for marketing shit.

    She's gonna out "Facebook" Facebook.

    1. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Registered users. Many of whom with real and pretty accurate personal profiles.

      Interesting.

      I'd not really heard of Tumblr before, and went to their site, and to even get in and find out WTF the site is about, they seem to insist on you setting up an account with email.

      So, I didn't get to see what Tumblr is or what it is about.

      I've not seen a site before, that requires an account to even get far enough to find a FAQ or anything to find out if you WANT to join.

      Are so many people willing to just give out their information at less than a drop of a hat these days?

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    2. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you want to know what tumblr is really about these days, think of a sexual fetish, then put it into Google with 'tumblr' tacked on, and you'll get whatever you want stream dumped from tons of different sources. When it comes to jacking (pun huhuhu) still images from porn producers, the fetish catagorizing fans on tumblr are second to none. Granted sometimes the "blogs" (haha yeah right) get shut down for infringement, but there's always another dozen that spring up to fill the void.

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    3. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by kelemvor4 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are so many people willing to just give out their information at less than a drop of a hat these days?

      In a word; yes. It's definitely a tiny (albeit vocal) minority who even give it a second thought.

    4. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'd not really heard of Tumblr before, and went to their site, and to even get in and find out WTF the site is about, they seem to insist on you setting up an account with email.

      You went to www.tumblr.com rather than a specific tumblr feed. I'm at work, so I couldn't provide you with any specific tumblr feed I'm familiar with, which brings us to your original question.

      Tumblr is porn. Lots and lots of reasonably well organized porn. I'm sure there's other stuff there, but I have no idea why you'd bother.

      (alright, there are some which are memes which start out as funny and then you get tired of after five minutes, such as this one popular during the last election.)

    5. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by pspahn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I worked briefly on a site launch for a startup a couple of years ago (selling overpriced designer shit to Austrailians, basically) and the founder was absolutely insistent that people had to sign up before they were even allowed to look at any products.

      His main argument in favor of that tactic was that it gives the user a sense exclusiveness... they are now part of the "club"... one of the cool kids... with accounts not automatically approved (they would have to wait an artificial amount of time) the delay helped build anticipation for looking at stuff and then being able to purchase it.

      I was strongly opposed to the founder's idea, but he insisted, and I left shortly thereafter (not really because of this, however, was offered a better position elsewhere).

      Last I heard, they completely changed their business model, so I am guessing their choices had failed.

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    6. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Despite all of the replies to you mumbling about porn, Tumblr's main draw is that it's a social base of somewhat technically literate, creatively-oriented people, mostly teenagers. They view it as an escape from Facebook's social ills. It combines some of the features of Twitter ("reblogging" things and making them appear in your feed) with richer post style controls, more like LiveJournal. In fact, it might be rather appropriate to call it LiveJournal for millennials. There's generally more emphasis on image-based communication, and a lot of the same meme-spamming you'd expect to find on a site like 4chan or Reddit, but in general the atmosphere is a little more positive and accepting than other popular social sites.

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    7. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    8. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by game+kid · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except Yahoo is working with Facebook now, due to general patent shenanigans...so it's actually even worse because the data will all get merged...with Facebook.

      Don't forget to Like their page for a chance to win a new Chevy and the right to vanish.

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    9. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 2

      I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here. So what? Art communities always get a disproportionate amount of people like that, and the attitudes are, in general, diffusive. I think Tumblr is exceptional in its concentration of socially-conscious and excessively socially-conscious people primarily because of the age group, though. New Sincerity and third-wave feminism have been busy, and I expect we'll see consistently higher rates of intolerant left-leaning mentalities in the future.

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    10. Re:Let's hold on a sec. I see what's she's doing. by blackest_k · · Score: 2

      http://www.theonion.com/articles/yahoo-back-on-top-after-purchasing-millions-of-13y,32497/?ref=auto

      SUNNYVALE, CAâ"Finally overcoming competition from the likes of Google, Microsoft, and AOL, internet corporation Yahoo firmly re-secured its place as an industry leader after Sundayâ(TM)s purchase of millions of blogs written by 13-year-old girls. âoeWhile Yahoo has seen its share of struggles over the years, the companyâ(TM)s acquisition of over 100 million blogs written by middle-school females before bedtime has already majorly revitalized the companyâ(TM)s brand,â said BCG consultant Timothy Shore, praising the $1.1 billion purchase of web pages filled with complaints about parents, speculation about cute boys in school, and photos of Robert Pattinson. âoeYahoo is looking to the future here, and tying the entire life of their company to a bunch of pubescent girl bloggers was the smart move.â Yahoo has projected that 13-year-old Melissa Wheelerâ(TM)s blog, mellisasworld.tumlbr.com, would eventually pull in over $2.3 billion for the company

      Sounds about right even if that is satire

  6. Languish and Die? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Flickr is a tremendous service, I use it frequently, as do many many other people from around the world. It has a huge community of more serious photographers and amateurs alike.

    Just because it isn't "the big thing" anymore doesn't mean it is dead.

  7. The only thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...that anyone really cares about: will there still be porn?

  8. i need $100 million dollars by alen · · Score: 2

    i want to create a free blogging site with no advertising and no hope of profits

    it will be cool because everyone knows advertising makes you blind

  9. Leave it alone right up until... by Tridus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's only going to be left alone if it can make giant piles of money and Yahoo management doesn't think they can boost some other property by linking them together.

    Given that Tumblr is currently not profitable and Yahoo management most definitely thinks they can use it to boost their other properties, a promise that it'll be left alone isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

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  10. Ms Pie will be VERY upset if you break a pinky pro by mabhatter654 · · Score: 2

    They need to take pinky promises VERY seriously... Have you seen what those Bronies are capable of?

    It's right there in NSFW on Tumblr!

  11. Re: RIP Tumblr by BonThomme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the VC's just got their 10x payday. what happens after that is irrelevant to them.

  12. "...make [Tumblr] a significant cash generator..." by tlambert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "whether it'll alter Tumblr's DNA in order to make the latter more of a significant cash generator"

    Perhaps they could first make Yahoo a significant cash generator, and when they have a proven method for that, THEN apply it to Tumblr and other properties.

  13. Re: Justice Department obtained records of Fox New by TheBestMerlinEver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this is related to the story how?

  14. Customers and zero price. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Once customers get used to getting something for free or close to free, they are not going to pay more, no matter what. All these VC's paying customers to use their product for free is setting up the mentality. When they stop subsidizing it, it founders.

    I see mundane things in bed bath and beyond, 12$ for the shower curtain or 250$ for a window treatment kit. People just shrug and pay. The very same people pick a flight that is 10$ cheaper but needs an additional stop and 3 more hours. All the price maximizing optimizing strategies by the airlines have created a sense that" my fellow passenger probably paid 10$ less for the very same ticket" and that changes the way people shop and decide. All these social networks are going to find it difficult to make money off their users.

    In a country like India where piracy is rampant and no one wants to pay anything for any kind of music, video, movie or software, the telephone ringtones are raking in several hundred million dollars to the phone companies. So how users arrive at a consensus fair price is a very difficult thing to understand or predict.

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  15. Re: Justice Department obtained records of Fox New by kilfarsnar · · Score: 3, Informative

    Rather did himself in. He posted as news a flawed and forged story, because he "believed it to be true". Or did you forget what actually did Rather in? He then blamed it on his Producer(s), and that he was just reading the story. Or did you forget that part too?

    Dan Rather got ratfucked by Karl Rove, that's what happened. George Bush's military records had been published years before Dan Rather reported on them, by J.H. Hatfield in Fortunate Son. Bush's people had been working for years to bury those records. So what did they do? They forged real documents and then tipped people off to the tells.

    It was brilliant! Now people think the documents were faked and the story was false. It wasn't; George Bush was in a "champagne unit" of the TANG, and still went AWOL to work on his Dad's campaign. But Rather got taken in by forged versions of real documents that were forged in order to cast doubt on the authenticity of the real documents. Like I said, brilliant!

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  17. Re:Here on Slashdot by guttentag · · Score: 5, Informative
    The AC is right about the Orwellian two minutes hate. As soon as I read the headline I knew it would have been submitted by Nerval's Lobster and link to a slashdot/topic/cloud or slashdot/topic/bi opinion piece by Nick Kolakowski.
    • The headline evokes childish playground antics
    • The headline is about a news story we already covered yesterday
    • The headline takes the position that big company buying little company will ruin it, but provocatively flips it around to get a rise out of Slashdotters who will inevitably argue against it

    As previously noted, "Slashdot Editor" Nick Kolakowski is once again promoting his own "Business Intelligence/Cloud" opinion pieces under the guise of the fake user Nerval's Lobster. He's simply trolling for pageviews, as he does just about every weekday... but this one is particularly shameless, as he's writing something almost no one will believe about a story we discussed yesterday. It's almost like his day consists of reading the comments of slashdot stories to see what deeply-seated opinions he can play off the next day to justify his job.

    Don't feed the troll. Don't comment on stories "submitted" by Nerval's Lobster.

  18. Pron by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is significant chunk of pron on Tumblr - ahem, I mean, so I've heard - and now it's owned by a publicly traded company? They will definitely be the first casualty (followed by about 75% of Tumblr's employees in 13 months or so).

  19. TheOnion approves the Tumbler sale by SternisheFan · · Score: 2
    At least The Onion has a positive take on Yahoo's purchase...

    Yahoo Back On Top After Purchasing Millions Of 13-Year-Old Girls’ Blogs

    SUNNYVALE, CA—Finally overcoming competition from the likes of Google, Microsoft, and AOL, internet corporation Yahoo firmly re-secured its place as an industry leader after Sunday’s purchase of millions of blogs written by 13-year-old girls.

    “While Yahoo has seen its share of struggles over the years, the company’s acquisition of over 100 million blogs written by middle-school females before bedtime has already majorly revitalized the company’s brand,” said BCG consultant Timothy Shore, praising the $1.1 billion purchase of web pages filled with complaints about parents, speculation about cute boys in school, and photos of Robert Pattinson.

    “Yahoo is looking to the future here, and tying the entire life of their company to a bunch of pubescent girl bloggers was the smart move.”

    Yahoo has projected that 13-year-old Melissa Wheeler’s blog, mellisasworld.tumlbr.com, would eventually pull in over $2.3 billion for the company.

    (Reprinted without permission from TheOnion.com)

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/yahoo-back-on-top-after-purchasing-millions-of-13y,32497/