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Latvian Police Raid Teacher's Home for Uploading $4.00 Textbook

richlv writes "Latvian police recently raided the home of a history teacher and confiscated his computer. The crime? Scanning a history book and making it available on his website covering various topics on history. The raid was based on a complaint from the publisher (Google Translate to English), which has a near-monopoly on educational materials in Latvia, often linked with shady connections in the Ministry of Education."

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  1. and in the us the same book will be $200-$400 upda by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    and in the us the same book will be $200-$400 updated 1-2 times a year.

  2. Don't copy that floppy! by bhlowe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't seem like fair use.. seems like blatant copyright infringement. As I learned in Boy Scouts, if you don't like the law, try to have it changed in an orderly manner, rather than disobey it. Failing that, if you're going to break the law, don't get caught.

    1. Re:Don't copy that floppy! by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree. On the other hand the response should be proportional. Uploading a textbook should have involved an officer serving a warrant. A raid and seizing equipment is more in line with a massive copyright ring. This over the top shit is really ridiculous and unwarranted. It's like someone caught jaywalking getting clubbed down, handcuffed, dragged away and thrown in the pokey. Enough with the over reactions already.

    2. Re:Don't copy that floppy! by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "educational use" is one of the fair use reasons, but applying US fair use to a Latvian action would be silly. Do they even have fair use in Latvia?

    3. Re:Don't copy that floppy! by bzipitidoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      On the contrary, it may be perfectly legal, even in the US. Lists of phone numbers and addresses, voting records of public servants, and other facts or assemblies of facts cannot be copyrighted. Even interpretations of historic events could be quotes of material that is no longer under copyright. A purely factual history book could quite possibly contain no copyrightable information. If on the other hand mere recountings of history are copyrightable, one wonders whether the authors stepped on others' copyrights. The historic information came from somewhere.

      But all that is a minor point. Likely the history book has recent thinking of scholars about the deeper meanings of the historic events covered. If not, and there wasn't any copyrightable material in the draft, we can be pretty sure that the publisher added some no matter how inaccurate or irrelevant, to cover this exact situation.

      The important part of this matter is that knowledge of history should be freely available to all citizens. If they don't have a copyleft history book, they should make one.

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  3. Getting an education today is hard by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All my life I've learned with "pirated" material: throughout school, my teachers copied all kinds of materials regardless of whether or not it was copyrighted - including my primary school teachers hand-copying entire pages of grammar or math books and giving away dittoed copies, photocopies of of all kinds... whatever was necessary to learn. Learning was considered "fair use" when I was young. Nobody in their right mind thought twice before copying something for education purposes.

    Then when I started dabbling in computers, I started "pirating" software all by myself. I knew what I was doing was illegal, yet it didn't feel wrong. I learned C with an illegal copy of Turbo C. I learned CAD with an illegal copy of AutoCAD. I learned everything I know with an illegal copy of something.

    Sure I shafted Borland, AutoDesk and all the others, but then I bet they made a whole lot of money afterwards, when I and all the others like me hit the job market and started using their products professionally - on seats paid by the companies I worked for to the tune of many thousands more than a single user seat.

    I don't know how I would have gotten an education without pirated material. I don't know how kids today get an education if their teachers should fear jail when they use pirated material. What a sorry state society is in...

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  4. price tag is irrelavant by superwiz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ownership (all ownership) is the right to deny use. This is as true of intellectual property ownership as it is of tangible item ownership. And it's not a bad thing as many will knee jerk to scream. Ownership is a right to treat that which we earn as extensions of our body. If we have a right to deny the use of our bodies, then, by extension, we have a right to deny use of that which we own.

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    1. Re:price tag is irrelavant by superwiz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The counter argument does not hold water. Just because a woman let you touch her boob, doesn't mean she forfeited the right to say "no" to sex. And if she says stops after half an hour of sex, and you refuse to stop, then it is still rape. The right to deny use can be invoked even after expressly allowing use.

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  5. Re:For $4 there is no reason not to buy it by Dahamma · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, I don't understand this either, it seems like the book publishers are screwed either way. "$100 for a textbook?! That's way too expensive, people should just copy it!" "$4 for a textbook!? That's really cheap, no one should care if we just copy it!"

  6. Re: Do they even have fair use in Latvia? by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hi - not Latvian, but a professor (with some little IP education). Generally speaking, "educational use" is not held to mean "so long as it's for education, do whatever you want". Educational use typically means discussion and criticism - using excerpts and passages to demonstrate a particular point, or using an example from a text. If the teacher had used fractions of the book as part of his lessons, he would likely have been covered under fair use provisions in many nations (including the US and Australia, where I teach). Conversely, wholesale duplication of a text is rarely considered fair use in an educational context.

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  7. Re:textbook publishers use all kinds of BS to keep by darkshadow88 · · Score: 4, Funny

    He didn't get no edumacation.

    What do you expect? He couldn't afford the textbooks!

  8. Re:and in the us the same book will be $200-$400 u by noh8rz10 · · Score: 5, Funny

    in latvia, history teaches you!

  9. Re:and in the us the same book will be $200-$400 u by flayzernax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And most likely full of spin, error, omission, or propaganda... lol

  10. Re:and in the us the same book will be $200-$400 u by ATMAvatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why limit it to one? At premium prices, customers demand premium quality. US history books will have all four.

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  11. Re:textbook publishers use all kinds of BS to keep by jones_supa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    textbook publishers use all kinds of BS to keep there monopoly on educational materials in place.

    I'm not sure. When in Finland these teachers had the over-the-weekend marathon to create a math textbook and put it into Github, they commented that they might as well release it for free, as the profit they get from books is always so small anyway. And, in increasing amounts you can read high-quality material for free from the intertubez, further shaking the position of commercially published books.

  12. Re: Do they even have fair use in Latvia? by Solandri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Who actually holds the copyright? When my structural engineering prof wanted to make copies of a textbook for us (which the publisher hadn't reprinted in a decade because they said it wasn't worth it for them), he just called up the author who was a colleague of his. The publisher didn't have exclusive rights, so he got permission from the author to copy it, and had the copy center run off a few dozen copies for us.

  13. Re:and in the us the same book will be $200-$400 u by cdrudge · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was in college I took an Analysis of Algorithms course as part of my CS degree. The textbook was $100-something and it was on it's 16th edition or so. Several weeks into the semester, my copy of the book was accidentally destroyed. Searching for a used copy online, I found one of the first several editions for about $10. I took a chance that no that much changed. Aside from the pages yellowing with age, I never found any differences to the current edition. The current edition actually had a few minor typos that the earlier edition that I had didn't have.