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Main US Weather Satellite Fails As Hurricane Season Looms

First time accepted submitter Rebecka writes with bad news, quoting an IB Times report: "Just as the 2013 hurricane season is about to begin, one of the U.S.' main weather satellites failed this week. The Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite, also known as GOES-13, reportedly ceased to operate as of Tuesday, making it impossible to predict weather patterns on the East Coast." A note at NOAA's page for the GOES family of satellites says "GOES-13 imaging and sounding operations suspended. Recovery efforts for GOES-13 continue and the spacecraft health and safety are nominal. GOES-14 is being activated." You can follow the progress on the agency's page of General Satellite Messages.

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  1. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by jaymz666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    we don't need it, god will look after us

  2. Re:check the weather out west by brian1078 · · Score: 5, Informative

    in the USA weather moves west to east

    Generally, yes. But many tropical systems that affect the eastern US start their formation off the coast of Africa and move East to West.

  3. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I actually work on one of the teams that is building the GOES-R satellite. Say what you will about funding and scheduling, but we have not been cancelled.

  4. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by jaymz666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What are you doing here? get back to work

  5. Nothing to worry about by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the weather satellite fails, we can just get our weather from the Internet like everybody else.

  6. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or the trillion-plus dollars they've spent on a war in Iraq for which absolutely none of the stated reasons turned out to be true.

  7. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, Lotus Notes is worse.

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  8. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by Kasamir · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're working on Gozer? Does that make you the Keymaster or the Gatekeeper?

  9. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by dietdew7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think you're gonna have to come in on Saturday.

  10. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by t4ng* · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, Democrats only kind of had a super majority for about 4 months starting at the end of 2009. But only if you count 2 independents and the blue dog Democrats as voting with them, which they don't. So instead, you had the Republicans using the filibuster more than any Congress in history. Oh, but wait, the only way they've been able to filibuster so often is because they just expressed their intent to filibuster without actually doing the time consuming work of a filibuster. That way they can quickly get on with the business of expressing intent to filibuster even more.

  11. More Information by PineHall · · Score: 5, Informative

    The satellite blog at University of Wisconsin has more information including some images from GOES 14, now turned on.

  12. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, because of Republican intransigence in Congress, they haven't been able to build and launch a new bird.

    Didn't read even TFS, I see.

    They've already activated the back-up satellite (GOES-14), which has been in orbit waiting for this for four years now (launched in 2009).

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  13. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by TwineLogic · · Score: 5, Informative

    GOES-R looks really cool.

    Here is a trailer/teaser video about it, excellent production values. It could be titled: "GOES-R : Into Fog"

    The page that has links to all these videos is at a special U.S. government website about GOES-R

    This is a much longer video which details all of the instruments.

    Finally, you may enjoy this video on the overall NOAA project and system, and how GOES-R fits into that system. Of note in this video is the statement that currently three (3) GOES satellites provide redundant coverage of the U.S.

    At the moment, GOES-15 is the west coast satellite, at longitude 135 West. GOES-13 was imaging from 75W. GOES-14 is presently located at 105W.

  14. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by ebno-10db · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And how many satellites could have been built with the $535 MILLION that the Obama Administration gave to Solyndra?

    I'm not sure, but you could have built at least 7000x as many satellites for the cost of the Iraq War. Bonus points for a lot fewer Americans killed.

  15. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They could take money from other useless parts (like the website that the private sector has entirely covered

    Uh, where do you think "the private sector" is getting their data from?

  16. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Aww. $500 million. Just imagine how many satellites could have been built from a fraction of the military budget.

    Or, even by cutting off welfare for people that ARE able bodied and can work. Or by cutting the waste from Medicare and SS, which are about the other 2/3 of the main budget chunks along with military.

    You know, if we shrunk the Federal Govt back down to more resemble what it is Constitutionally mandated to do, we could easily afford a lot more stuff.

    Hell, why don't we quit sending so much fucking money out for Foreign Aid, and spend it on satellites? Who objects to that one?

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  17. Forecasting practices by maddog42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most forecasting is done by meteorologists viewing the predicted conditions based on a numerical model that normally gets run every 12 hours. The model's forecast is usually pretty good out to 72 hours or so. What happens is that an experienced weather-guesser (ex-Navy, here) will look at the model's output (which lags realtime to some degree) and compare the prediction to the actual conditions for the timeframe in question. If the correlation is high, he/she will put more faith into the model's longer term predictions. If the model isn't tracking reality very well, the forecaster will rely on experience rather than the numerical prediction for the longer-range forecast.

    Sounder data from the available weather satellites is used to seed the modelling software as close to its run time as possible, to set up starting conditions for the observable areas. If that data is lacking, the previous model run data closest to the time of the new run is used. (GIGO applies...)

    The realtime data can also come from radiosondes, official observations stations, buoys, or what have you. Losing a bird doesn't mean the forecasting infrastructure will fall apart; it just means that imagery will come from a different source (= different angle, with attendant distortion), and some loss of realtime input for the model run.

  18. Re:They saw this coming for ages... by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Or, even by cutting off welfare for people that ARE able bodied and can work. "

    Ageed, When do we start cutting the pay to Congress?

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