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Richard III Suffered an Ignominious Burial, Researchers Find
An anonymous reader writes "Richard III may have been the King of England and the subject of a Shakespearean play, but even that couldn't keep him safe from ending up in a hastily-dug grave that ultimately became part of a parking lot, according to a new study published in the journal Antiquity."
FTA:
the late king’s body was reportedly stripped naked, despoiled and publicly displayed for three days before it was buried
. . . and someone was in a rush to get what was left of him underground . . . lest his remains doth starteth to again walk . . .
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Your "dupe" has no information about the conditions of his burial, which is the main point of this May 25th article.
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A hearse, a hearse, my kingdom for a hearse.
It really would be news if we were to learn that Richard suffered from his burial. That would indicate that he was aware of his surroundings three days after he had clinically died. THIS IS A CASE FOR LIFE AFTER DEATH!! The question that Richard failed to answer is, which, if any religions, offers any real promise of salvation or happiness after death. Poor, suffering Richard - does anyone think that he is still suffering after all this time?
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Imperious Richard, dead and turned to clay,
Might stop a hole to keep a tire from flaying.
Oh, that that earth, which kept the world in awe,
Should patch a park t' allow the traffic’s flow!
Those readers who don't RTFA are doomed to make themselves look silly.
Two different articles two different topics in the articles, one a press release that the DNA matched and that it was Richard the 3rd, the new one on how he was buried in the grave.
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No. It took researchers months to write an article, get it proof-read, submitted to a journal, peer-reviewed and finally published in the journal.
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Um, Richard III died in 1495 while Shakespeare was writing plays (like, you know, "Richard III") around 1592 - a hundred years later.
So how was Richard's burial going to be affected by a play that hadn't yet been written, and which wasn't going to be written for another 100 years?
Do you think the early Tudors might have thought, with a little effort: "Oh look! Some playwright will write about this dead king in a hundred years, and the dead king and the playwright will still be famous in 500 years time, so we had better bury this dead king properly."
I am anarch of all I survey.
Remember that the new King, Henry Tudor, hereafter referred to as that Evil Bastard Henry VII (EBH7) dated his accession to the throne to the day BEFORE the battle of Bosworth, thus rendering those followers of Richard III who remaied loyal to the end traitors to the crown, and that the turncoats who ensured his victory would make sure they heaped as many indignities in the corpse of their former king as possible to demonstrate their loyalty to EBH7.
Given these circumstances, its entirely reasonable that the interrment of Richard would be done as quickly as possible, at the first opportunity that the body would not be missed. Originally the grave was in the church of the Grey Friars, probably in front of an altar and would have been deep enough not to cause "offence". It may have been hastily prepared and thus not quite the right size for Richard, but rather than indicating that the scenario was "ignominious", it shows that his remaining supporters wanted to bury him in a holy place, away from the vengance of EBH7s new supporters. Given the time constraints and the location, speed would have been of the essence. Just because it wasn't a State Funeral doesn't mean that it would not have been done without reverence. The fact that the site ended up as a car park can be indirectly ascribed to the activities of EBH7s son, Henry VIII who dissolved the monasteries, friaries, etc.
We're lucky that the grave still exists. Part of the foundations of a Victorian brick privy intrude into the burial site, a few feet further and he would have been completely obliterated.
But I, that am not shaped for sportive tricks,
Nor made to court an amorous looking glass;
I, that am rudely stamped and want love’s majesty
To strut before a wanton ambling nymph;
I, that am curtailed of this fair proportion,
Cheated of feature by dissembling nature,
Deformed, unfinished, sent before my time
Into this breathing world, scarce half made up,
And that so lamely and unfashionable
That dogs bark at me as I halt by them—
Why, I, in this weak piping time of peace,
Have no delight to pass away the time,
Unless to see my shadow in the sun
And descant on mine own deformity.
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Another imbecile who doesn't understand that the word is often used metaphorically.
At least you've got the excuse that you're a dago.
Well, after reviewing the research one question still remains unanswered, did he at least get a good spot in the parking lot?
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I'd take living in this modern life as a 'peon' any day over being any royal person in history. We live better than any kings and queens of yore. We have modern plumbing and sanitation instead of having to defecate into holes, and nothing beats a hot shower on demand. In the 1400's the average english person took a bath every 7 years, the world was filled with dirty smelly people. Heat and air conditioning on demand, not cold castle walls. We can get to anyplace in the world in a matter of hours, not yearlong odyessee's. Only royalty got to wear the color purple, today we have the full spectrum of color available. Disease and plagues are not something to be feared as back then, healthcare today is top-notch. And all the world's knowledge is all available on your portable phone, there's no need to live in ignorance provided by royal magical wisemen. We live better and longer than kings and queens of history ever did. This story, repeat though it is here, reminds me to be grateful for the marvelous lives we lead today, the best time in all of history to be alive.
Even kings start to smell bad after a couple of days.
Just dig a hole and drop him in it, he's putting me off my eel pie...
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Sure. I performed an experiment called Read The Fucking Article (RTFA), which yielded this curious observation:
It was found approximately 73 mm from the entrance to TFA, not very far in. Note the use of the phrase "First of all", which provides supporting evidence that it was near the entrance.
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"It really would be news if we were to learn that Richard suffered from his burial. That would indicate that he was aware of his surroundings three days after he had clinically died. "
A shovel, a shovel, my kingdom for a shovel!
I went to middle school in the middle ages, you insensitive clod!
Now get thee hence and tread not upon mine herbery.
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There would have been no Tudor England, House of Windsor, Henry VIII, and the schism from the Holy Roman Catholic Church. That would mean no George III who was King at the time of the American Revolution. Maybe New York would be an English City.
A shovel, a shovel, my kingdom for a shovel!
I imagine that after his burial, it would have been more like "A shovel, a shovel, Henry VII's kingdom for a shovel!" :-)
Ezekiel 23:20
Actually undisturbed soil retains its structure pretty well, and soil disturbed by burrowers like earthworms and moles only slightly less well. After the first six inches the ground remains pretty much untouched by anything but roots (which are transient and obvious phenomena) for thousands to millions of years. I've personally been to archeological excavations where you can clearly see the individual shovel and pick marks from a thousand or more years ago. The Burgess Shale shows silt layers from individual rainstorms 520 million years ago.
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