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US Entertainment Industry To Congress: Make It Legal For Us To Deploy Rootkits

An anonymous reader writes "The hilariously named 'Commission on the Theft of American Intellectual Property' has finally released its report, an 84-page tome that's pretty bonkers. But there's a bit that stands out as particularly crazy: a proposal to legalize the use of malware in order to punish people believed to be copying illegally. The report proposes that software would be loaded on computers that would somehow figure out if you were a pirate, and if you were, it would lock your computer up and take all your files hostage until you call the police and confess your crime. This is the mechanism that crooks use when they deploy ransomware."

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  1. Why does this not surprise me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These guys are the biggest thieves of the lot.

    1. Re:Why does this not surprise me? by __aasehi2499 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course, it stands to reason that if they are looking to make this practice legal, they are probably already engaged in it.

  2. Seriously.. by wei2912 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe they should have a taste of how rootkits feel like.

    1. Re:Seriously.. by citizenr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      umm they did, Sony got rooted. All it did was give them more ammunition.

      Maybe it would of worked if hackers targeted individuals within corporation. Leak personal details of everyone above VP inside Sony for example? Schedules, bank records, credit ratings, private photos no one was supposed to see, this kind of stuff.

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  3. LOL by Bobakitoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I always been saying that the entertainment industry was the real pirate as what they were doing was closer to sailing the seas to sinking ship, steal booty and murder crewman then simply sharing data over the Internet. Now anyone not seeing it that way has no excuse.

  4. Well yes... by sociocapitalist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "This is the mechanism that crooks use when they deploy ransomware."

    Enough said.

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  5. Exports? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's say this does get legalised, somehow. Have fun trying to export any infected products to the rest of the world!

    And for everybody else trying to sell entertainment products made in the US, all the people who make sensible data with no rootkits in it, have fun trying to convince the rest of the world to trust you! People will just see "Made in the US" and read it as "This will destroy your computer" regardless of whether there's malware present or not.

    1. Re:Exports? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let's say this does get legalised, somehow. Have fun trying to export any infected products to the rest of the world!

      Do you live somewhere in the rest of the world?

      Have you heard the expression "To 'harmonize' the laws".

      That is how this will become legal where you live.

    2. Re:Exports? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This would push things over the limit. No companies or government branches outside of USA(or even in USA!) would stand for this.

      How much do you want to bet?

      Our illustrious Federal Government of Australia (before or after the election, it'll make no difference) will just roll over and say "ooh, that's nice, tickle me just there, that's the spot..."

      That's what Free Trade Agreements are for. Just a formal way of saying "I'm your bitch".

    3. Re:Exports? by Zordak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I like how you toss out a token reference to Democratic corruption, and then happily regurgitate, verbatim, the Democrats' talking point that "Republicans are the Party of No." It must be nice to live in a world where there is a political party that you trust to do all your thinking for you. Some of us don't have that luxury.

      By the way, to bring this back on point, let's not forget that the DNC is practically a wholly-owned subsidiary of Big Media. Or that Chris Dodd is now chairman of the MPAA. When a Democrat inevitably introduces this legislation, I will be perfectly content to let Republicans play the "No" card.

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  6. Greyzone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, if I do something that is legal but Sony thinks should be illegal then the laws are changed.
    If Sony does something that is illegal but they think should be legal then the laws are also changed.

    Seems reasonable.

    Also, never let a product with the Sony-logo into your home. You never know what approach they will use to contaminate your computer.

  7. Sad Sad Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It deeply saddens me that people continue to support companies that pull this kind of crap.

    I'm sure that Sony/Microsoft et al would change their tune of their products weren't selling. But, when their selling millions of crippled or bugged titles, my lone voice is crushed by the cacophonous accusations of paranoia.

    1. Re:Sad Sad Sad by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's really sad is your voice of reason sounds like paranoia to ordinary people. No one outside of tech circles remembers the rootkit fiasco.

  8. RIAA tried this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The RIAA tried to get an amendment added to the Patriot Act in 2001 that would do the very same thing. This is domestic terrorism on different level, but terrorism just the same.

  9. Wait... by eulernet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In fact, this proposal will probably be refused.

    But this is a strategy:

    1) propose a tough law
    2) wait for its refusal
    3) propose a "lighter" one

    Since the lighter one will appear innocuous and since the first one has been refused, the second will be accepted.
    And you can bet that they wanted to propose the "light" one first, but it would have been probably refused if submitted first.

    1. Re:Wait... by dinfinity · · Score: 5, Interesting

      More commonly known as:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique

      Although one could wonder to what extent feelings of guilt and the drive to reciprocate are applicable in this situation.

  10. Orphan or Dame? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    With the dreadful formulaic schlock that Hollywood puts out, it's fair to say that they've already incorporated an anti-theft device, called "bad writing".

  11. Re:Surprise is that this doesn't happen already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do you remember when Sony sneaked rootkits on their CD's and USB-memories and got away with a slap on the wrist.
    It won't happen again, the wristslapping that is.

  12. fuck this shit by shentino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do not trust a rent seeking organization of any sort to not "make mistakes" on calling people pirates.

    They're trying to be judge, jury, executioner, AND witness.

    These people sue grandmas and dead people to get settlements. I wouldn't trust them not to frame someone that happens to have a fat bank account.

    And even if they were simply incompetent, I still wouldn't trust them to actually care about making mistakes.

    1. Re:fuck this shit by JustOK · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They're trying to be judge, jury, executioner, AND witness.

      AND victim

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  13. Teh Terrorists by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Use the fear.

    Obviously allowing media companies to deploy root kits will increase the number of vulnerable machines on our nations part of the internet. Assuming this some how only finds its way on to home PC it still leaves many machines more vulnerable to attack by additional malware which might make them botnet members which could be used in DDOS attacks against critical business sectors like Finance and Healthcare.

    Clearly the desire to do this shows the media companies behind it are irresponsible citizens endangering our national security at best actively aiding and abetting our enemies and terror organizations at worst. These are unAmerican activities and the industry participants need to be call out on it.

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  14. They also want to allow private cyberwar... by Esteanil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They also want to allow private companies to make "aggressive actions" in retaliation against "foreign cyber spies".

    Like, there's no way THAT could possibly escalate or cause the end of the internet as we know it...

    Link

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    1. Re:They also want to allow private cyberwar... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Funny
      No more ridiculous than the first line of TFS:

      The hilariously named 'Commission on the Theft of American Intellectual Property' ...

      ...Presumably hilarious by way of the inclusion of the words "American" and "Intellectual" consecutively.

      Sigh...

    2. Re:They also want to allow private cyberwar... by lexsird · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just think, your grandfather will also be voting too. He'll be sure to vote for those who support fighting these evil pirate scum and their foreign comrades.

       

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    3. Re:They also want to allow private cyberwar... by nabsltd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Presumably hilarious by way of the inclusion of the words "American" and "Intellectual" consecutively.

      No, it's hilarious because you'd think that people writing opinions about what should or should not become law would understand that "theft" isn't possible with intellectual property.

      Intellectual property can be copied (possibly in a way that violates one or more laws), but it cannot be stolen.

  15. Wow ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So they basically want the right to maliciously hack and damage other people's computers on their belief that someone is stealing from them.

    No court, no proof, just what they believe. So they want to be judge, jury, and executioner.

    OK Anonymous, there's your targets. Each one of the people who contributed to this report are now fair game. Since they've decided it should be their right to hack us, they're now perfect valid targets. Their families, bank accounts, and mistresses are good starting points.

    What a bunch of douchebags. These guys would have us undercut all of computer security to give them special access to enforce their claims without oversight, and in the process, they'd probably make most computers far less secure.

    If these guys want the right to commit what would be crimes for anyone else, then I suggest they don't deserve a whole lot of consideration.

    This is shameful, and I really hope the lawmakers tell them a big "no friggin' way".

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  16. This is Feudalism by davydagger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The last stripes of a so called "free market" are being washed away into corporte feudalism, where the corporations now take over law enforcement, and soon after, law creation and destruction.

    Denying citizens all due proccess of a Jury of their peers, set up by a democraticly elected republican government is an assault on everything we stand for as a nation. This moves beyond the scary police state, dirrecty into feudalism. No longer do corporations control us with soft power, but they not have the right to directly interfere in our lives in place of the government, without the shred of due process the former has afforded us. This even gives them more power than the NSA/FBI, who to date have yet to request or start putting root kits on people's hard drives.

    It should go without saying that the RIAA will likely use this based on past actions to:

    1. Falsely labeling people as pirates, due to apathy. Don't give a damn who's really a pirate or not.

    2. Falsely label random people as pirates due to malice.

    3. Black Hat activities against critics. They could plant evidence of serious crimes(kiddie porn, bomb making materials, terrorist manefestos, etc..) on the hard drives of victims. They could also remotely wipe hard disks, spy, and delete or manipulate selective files, making it harder for people to mount a defense against their

    4. Set people up. I.e. open connections to whatever machine they want and do whatever activity they want. They want someone to say something terrorist related they can now.

      and locking there machines, wiping their hard drives, deleting files related to criticism, giving them virrii, planting evidence, setting them up for criminal activity, etc....

    Just went you thought SOPA and PIPA cannot be worse.

    I think we need to propose our own laws permanently banning the practice across the board, and stiff penalties for everyone who would try. The laws need to have the CEOs, and corporate officers go to jail. The law also needs to make whoever wrote that, go to fucking jail.

    By go to jail I mean

    1. Pre-dawn raid where they shoot they're pets, smash their houses, and intimidate their family
    2. Denied bail, intimidated into making confessions with ridiculous sentences.
    3. Freeze their bank accounts so they can't pay for lawyers.
    4. at least 15 years in federal prison in general population.

  17. The natural end-point to "Intellectual Property" by Lundse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the end, socalled IP can only be enforced in this manner: Control over the machines used by the buyers, ie. the potential buyers, ie. the rabble. Only when we no longer control our machines, can you "sell" access - you need a gateway to extract money! Since the "you need the LP/CD/DVD"-model has died, the only possible gate is access and control over the machine.

    So, the Free Software movement asks again: Who should own and control the machines we all use for work, entertainment, living?

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  18. Will it ever end? by sqrt(2) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are we still having this conversation in 2013? You lost. It's over. Our society at large accepts and supports file sharing for non-commercial use. You can't put that toothpaste back in the tube, you can't roll back the cultural clock. You will not stop filesharing. Figure out a way to make money in this new economy or die quietly. Something as non-essential and ephemeral as the entertainment "industry" doesn't deserve a minute of face time with our government. There are important matters to be dealt with, going after filesharers doesn't even register on the importance-scale.

    Is anyone really entertaining the delusions of these detached, clueless, dinosaurs? Meanwhile, our infrastructure is literally collapsing, and they want us to waste government time having a discussion about imaginary property. Grow up. Your racket is over, you had decades of a free ride, longer than you deserved, to see this coming and do something about it. You sat on your hands, so now knuckle under and let that sweet creative destruction wash over your entire industry.

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  19. Crooks by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 5, Informative

    Director Richard Ellings, Deputy Director Roy Kamphausen, Casey Bruner, John Graham, Creigh Agnew, Meredith Miller, Clara Gillispie, Sonia Luthra, Amanda Keverkamp, Deborah Cooper, Karolos Karnikis, Joshua Ziemkowski, and Jonathan Walton.

    I wish news articles put faces these types of outrages. The above people are the commission.

  20. Re:Surprise is that this doesn't happen already by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is the value of having a torrent community. You go to a place like TPB and read the comments before downloading a torrent. People have a way of looking after each other when they are part of a community.

  21. Re:Surprise is that this doesn't happen already by staalmannen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Does steam need root? I needed root to install it (like any piece of software) on Arch linux, but it runs at low privileges. Also if you run the windows version under Wine it is completely unprivileged and only active in your assigned WINEPREFIX.

  22. Go ahead, make my day by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please. Go ahead. Get Congress to authorize you to deploy rootkits. While you're at it, better make sure Congress also holds you immune from any damages done to the user's computer by either you or a third party who exploits your rootkit on the user's machine. I really want you to do this. I really sincerely hope this legislation goes through.

    Because that will be the end of you. That will bring to an end the era of Big Entertainment .as people take special pains and use soon-to-be-written FOSS software to ensure that no part, fragment, snippet or bit ...nothing, NO-THING of what you produce ever has any contact whatsoever with any machine they own.

    One way to kill your enemy is to give them everything they want. This works especially well when the enemy is the coke snorting sociopathic lawyers and executives in an industry who would corrupt every last vestige of civil society and even democracy and free speech itself in order that they can go on making money in just the way they've set themselves up to make money.

    So please, go ahead .. make my day. (footnote 1)

    Footnote 1-t

    The phrase "Make my day" is copyrighted by Warners Brothers and is used here without permission despite the fact that Woofy Goofy was fully cognizant of the copyright and also the need to seek legal permission before using the phrase "Make my day" and further, it was Woofy Goofy 's intent to, with malice of forethought , defraud and and deprive Warners Brothers of its legal right to compensation for the usage of its copyrighted material and this defrauding was not intended by WoofyGoofy as a political act or protest but rather and only to secure financial gain for WoofyGoofy, regardless of the amount of such gain or whether such gain could reasonably be inferred to have materialized through any means, and for no other reason whatsoever.

  23. Re:Surprise is that this doesn't happen already by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Right... and it shows what happens when you assume. Steam runs as a regular application... the DRM is checked by the application since each game and sub-app is launched by the Steam client itself.

    It's probably one of the best-behaved apps I've seen on my Mac, Windows box or Linux box :)

  24. Re:Surprise is that this doesn't happen already by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's really surprising is that torrents aren't infected up the wazoo with malware anyway.

    Why would they? Pirates are far more worried about reputation and repeat customers than the RIAA appear to be.

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  25. Re:Surprise is that this doesn't happen already by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Think about it, the only way to avoid malware will be to pirate everything.