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Ask Slashdot: How Can I Make a Computer Science Club Interesting?

plutoclacks writes "I will run a computer science club at my high school next semester with two other friends. The club was newly introduced this school year, and initially saw a massive success (40+ members showed up at the first meeting). Unfortunately, participation has decreased a lot since then, down to four active members. I feel that the main reason for this decline was the inability to maintain the students' interest at the beginning of the year, as well as general disorganization, which we hope to change next semester. The leaders of the club all have fairly strong Java backgrounds, in addition to enthusiasm about computer science and programming. We have a computer lab with ~30 computers, which, though old, are still functional and available for use. What are some ways we can make the club have an impacting interest to newcomers?"

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  1. Lots of hot smart chicks by realsilly · · Score: 5, Funny

    should do the trick.

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    1. Re:Lots of hot smart chicks by gandhi_2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hookers and coke.

    2. Re:Lots of hot smart chicks by mrzaph0d · · Score: 3, Funny

      well, at first they had all the lights on to not scare the chicks away, but that made it worse. they've now calculated the lighting level to allow them to get as close as possible to the girls before they sense something's wrong and bolt from the room.

      i think the next step is to be able to raise and lower the lights as the girls enter and move about the room, allowing them to get even closer.

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  2. Normal. by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, reduce your expectations.

    From your initial 40 'applicants' only 20% will stay, that's everywhere the case, from Pilates to Yoga, from Knitting to Pottery.

    So in the best case, you'll get 4 additional members.

    1. Re:Normal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, it's the Computer Science Club, not the Math Club.

  3. Do something for the school: by MurukeshM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (Re)Design your website.
    Create a course-management tool.
    Try to use Moodle.

    In general, a year-long project that will have a lasting effect on your high school.

  4. Keep it interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As and educator for 20+ years (University level) I can attest that I too have had the same problems. The way to stop the declining numbers it to make it more fun. Have everyone War Drive on the way to the meeting and hand out a $5 gas card to the one who fins the most open AP's. Have a contest to find the most expensive computer on ebay. Have a hackathon over a 12 hour period where they get to try their hand at protecting and attacking computers in a safe environment.

    1. Re:Keep it interesting by robthebloke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      +1 (and an ex-educator)

      If you want to bore the pants off people, teach them the syntax of a programming language. If you want to maintain an enthusiastic class, teach the bare minimum language skills (for-loop, not for/while/do-while. std::vector, not std::vector/std::deque/std::stack/std::list. member funcs, not member funcs/operators/static methods/etc), and encourage them to 'build' interesting things (simple games, basic apps, image editing tools, sound sequencers, etc). Enthusiasm for programming and computer science is something that you develop over time. Enthusiasm for being creative and making your own computer game, is something that can grab peoples attention. Just remember that whilst *you* might love the inner workings of a 6502 processor, there will be a large number of people that will find that dull and unexciting! Constantly ask yourself the question: "Why am I showing them this? Is this going to help them be creative?", and you can't go too wrong imho (and try to encourage the people to make links with other passions they may have, e.g. art, sound, etc)

  5. Step #1: toss Java. by Nutria · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Step #2: understand that Computer Science isn't the same as Computers.
    Step #3: decide what the current club members want to do.

    Redesign the school web site? Robotics? Arduino/RasPi hacking? Learning new languages? Etc etc.

    Installing FreeDOS and writing graphics programs in C that directly write to the VGA memory while controlling the sound "card" is an interesting first project. You learn a lot about the h/w, too. Then there's manipulating the FAT in assembly, banging bits out of the serial and parallel ports, etc, etc.

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  6. Computing At School is your answer by SplatMan_DK · · Score: 3, Informative

    Take the time to visit non-profit organization Computing At School.

    Their own description of themselves is:

    The Computing At School Working Group (CAS) is a grass roots organisation that aims to promote the teaching of Computing at school. CAS is a collaborative partner with the BCS through the BCS Academy of Computing, and has formal support from other industry partners.

    They are dedicated to finding and sharing the best ways to teach IT to the young(er) generations, and they have a proven track-record with great results.

    I am not affiliated with them; but I use their website and material for my own children, because nothing better is available to me locally.

    You can join their online Educators Community here:

    http://community.computingatschool.org.uk/door

    - Jesper

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  7. Re:Forget Java by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Heavy languages like Java/C++ are tedious for kids/adolescents. Program in something fun and lite like Python/Ruby/Perl.

    Javascript is better still. No compiler, near instant results. You just need a text editor & browser.

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  8. Make something cool by slim · · Score: 4, Informative

    Make something cool; something you can show off to people outside the club, that will impress them and make them want to join in.

      Something involving robotics or sensing devices, perhaps -- that seems to engage young imaginations somehow. It's 20 times cooler to make a turtle robot draw a picture, than to draw the same picture on a screen. What about a Raspberry Pi powered school weather station that tweets the current wind speed and temperature, and serves visualisations of historical data on the web?

    See if you can come up with a project that can scale -- so your 4 core members can make a start on it, but other people could be brought in whenever they show an interest?

  9. Invite speakers by nbauman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Find some interesting guys in your neighborhood who are doing interesting things.

    Try the local businesses, colleges, IEEE chapter, etc.

    That's a "speaker" who comes in to describe his work, but then you spend an hour just hanging out with him or her.

  10. Clubs Often Work That Way by mx+b · · Score: 3, Informative

    As someone heavily involved in clubs in high school and college, let me first say that it is entirely common to have the numbers thin out quickly. Everything I've ever been involved in has mostly been done by a "core" group of say 3-6 people, everyone else is only helpful here and there on temp basis. Do not let that discourage you as it did me in the beginning. You don't need or even want too many people that actively involved or it will be a nightmare to manage. Instead, I would say get your core group together and vote more or less on an interesting project to work on. Build a robot, set up new computer labs in the school (with linux? ;-) ), contribute to an open source project mutually agreed on, or whatever makes your boat float. Cool things happening will get interest from others, who will then start to participate.

    The other thing I can say about attracting newbies is that you have to be sure you don't make things *too* technical up front. Some people have an interest but do not know where to begin, and will get scared off if the first meeting is too focused on the cool advanced projects everyone has. Make sure you include some plain "social" events to make people feel comfortable. Maybe with a computers theme. Maybe participate in a Distro Release Party (openSUSE I think encourages everyone to plan a pizza party and play with the new release every time it comes out, maybe try that? social but gives new people a chance to learn something new in a non-threatening environment). Remember: there are probably more people with interest in programming, but did not learn it yet, and so you have to be sensitive to their emotions. Not everyone teaches themselves programming at age 8 (for any number of reasons), so just remember your first priority is fun with friends with an interest, and then from that build a core that does cool stuff (maybe the core has extra meetings in addition to the monthly social meetings that attract new members). Contests are often a good way to get interest because it gets people involved. Maybe have some fun computer related contest (jeopardy! type game, whatever) and have some cheesy prize for the winner.

    Do you have a faculty sponsor? Having a teacher at bat for you can help you get resources: computers, software, pizza, or maybe even just get permission for use of a certain room as the club hangout and lab. An area to call your own is always good at getting people comfortable and happy to join.

    In any case, do not worry *too* much about planning to attract help. Just be involved in the school, have a lot of enthusiasm and do cool things, above all be casual and friendly, and people will naturally start showing up and helping out. Have a lot of fun and good luck!

  11. Get rid of the 4 regulars by arfonrg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Get rid of the 4 regulars because they are driving everyone else off.

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  12. How to increase interest in a club .... by morbingoodkid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I currently run a club with about 230 members about 100 active on a weekly basis. Here is the principles I use to run the club.

    Basic principles:
    1. Challenging
    We try and target classes and projects just slightly above the students current level.

    2. Fun
    Let's face it if it's not fun people don't come.

    3. Sense of achievement
    People do not want to feel like they wasted their time. We give certificates for specific achievements.

    4. Do what you promise
    This is a way to make sure your club does not die. If you say you have meeting you have to have a meeting regardless if 1 person pitches or 100.

    This is the only way I know how to do it. And it seems to be working.

  13. I was president of my high school club by slashmydots · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was the president of mine in high school and we turned it into the gaming club. We kept the title for funding reasons but really we just threw LAN parties. Membership was pretty high. We also held a dance dance revolution tournament with the finals in the lunchroom.

    I've heard from other places though that the biggest success is always building some sort of overclocked, ultra-high storage, superocomputer but sort of an ironic one number-wise since nobody ever has the budget for a brand new one. Basically, throw together a ton of spare parts in a gigantic 1995 era-case with other computers' hard drive cages glued in for like 10 used drives with PCI IDE controllers (like $10 on ebay) and dual power supplies. You can get cages, fans, drives, and all that donated from people who just want to get rid of their junk computers laying around at home. Then run through how to run a proper chkdsk on them all and other technical stuff and definitely paint it and anyone into computers at all will love the project.

  14. Re:Please don't delude the kids... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    especially when a call to Tata can get guaranteed results

    it's all a matter of what that guarantee stipulates.

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