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Ask Slashdot: With Grants Drying Up, How Is a Tech Non-Profit To Survive?

helios17 writes "Non-Profits like this have traditionally gotten started from the money grants provide. Most grants award vehicles, computers, and even pay for organization rental and utility costs. The problem fledgling and even established non-profits are encountering is the dwindling number of grants allowing for Operating or General Support costs. What good is a vehicle received via grant if you can't afford to put fuel in it? With the number of Operating or General Support grants shrinking and those available funds competed for heavily, should we be looking on line for help? Can efforts like this be a better way to approach it?"

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  1. Kickstarter. by Narcocide · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Lobbying is obsolete.

    1. Re:Kickstarter. by Splat · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Kickstarter cannot be used to raise money for causes, whether it's the Red Cross or a scholarship, or for "fund my life" projects, like tuition or bills."

      Welp, so much for that idea.

    2. Re:Kickstarter. by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can't raise money for a cause, but you can raise money for a project for a cause. "Donate here to my cause" is not allowed, but "donate here for my cause's project" is, right?

    3. Re:Kickstarter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then replace Kickstarter with Indiegogo. They allow pitching for this and for nonprofits in particular.

      I just understood "kickstarter" in title as "crowdfunding", like "google it" for "search the internet" or "xerox" for "photocopier".

  2. More important: Why are they drying up? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why are the grants drying up? Despite the much-hyped "austerity", in reality the government has spent more money in each of the recent years than ever before.

    So where is all the damned money going???

    1. Re:More important: Why are they drying up? by BenJCarter · · Score: 4, Funny

      We aren't at war anymore. You must have missed the president guy's mouth noises on the subject.

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      For in politics, as in religion, it is equally absurd to aim at making proselytes by fire and sword. - Publius
    2. Re:More important: Why are they drying up? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Informative

      lol leftist faggot, why not hand over the world to china

      And thus we see the right wing eating its own. Jane Q. Public is one of Slashdot's most reliably conservative posters--but one post that deviates from orthodoxy, and out come the McCarthyite claws. Kind of like how Grover Norquist was accused of being a secret Muslim the other day.

      I'll be over here cheering from the sidelines.

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    3. Re:More important: Why are they drying up? by countach74 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's sad is that "conservative" these days means pro military-industrial complex. There is nothing actually conservative about big government spending on military; the Republicans just want us to think otherwise.

    4. Re:More important: Why are they drying up? by grcumb · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why are the grants drying up?

      In many cases, it's not that the money is drying up; it's that the money is increasingly 'focused' on projects rather than administration.

      There's a popular conception among donors that the best way to keep NGOs from existing for their own sake (and growing fat and complacent) is to cease providing core funding, instead providing money for individual initiatives. As a happy coincidence, this also keeps NGOs on the string, having to justify every single little thing they do, which makes it easier to ensure that NGOs don't do anything that might make the donors uncomfortable, like speak their mind, or have a conscience or tell the truth.

      The 'no core funding' argument has some merits, I'll grant (heh) you, as there have been NGOs who got caught up in navel-gazing, who got lazy and spent more time feathering their respective nests than actually, you know, doing good. That is absolutely something to be guarded against. But this move toward project funding has the unfortunate effect of keeping some NGOs on the fringe, struggling to stay alive. This applies particularly to those who challenge the status quo.

      And as noted here, it has a knock-on effect on all NGOs, who find they can obtain salaries and meet project expenses, but can't own any fixed assets or even keep a vehicle running. Perversely, this increases their operating costs, which have to be met somehow. And that results in bigger grant applications for project funding.

      Obligatory software analogy: This is similar to tech companies who see design, tech support, permanent staffing and even updates as cost centres and therefore areas to starve as much as possible. This can all too easily lead to more friction in the gears, longer ramp-up times, slower release schedules, reduced quality and sales, and yes, higher development costs, once everything's factored in.

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    5. Re:More important: Why are they drying up? by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, funding for a lot of these types of grants is drying up, this kind of spending has been in the Republican bullseye for a long time, and has suffered during recent budget "crises" due to Republicans picking these kinds of grants specifically to harp on(despite the fact that they make up less than 3% of the overall budget, and probably are one of the few effective government programs...) Basically they are trying to distract people from the fact that Republicans are unwilling to make real cuts and as an added bonus, are focusing on programs that primarily benefit their "enemies" (i.e. anyone who isn't either uber-rich or an uneducated white). Class act those Republicans.

    6. Re:More important: Why are they drying up? by stenvar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So where is all the damned money going???

      It's going to entitlements, mostly. Increased taxes and spending are justified by progressives with phrases like "taxes buy civilization", but they choose to spend most of the new money coming in on increasing individual benefits (it buys votes, I suppose). A lot of the rest is spent on bailouts and subsidies to failing industries. Infrastructure and non-profits are stagnating or get cut.

  3. Re:Try the private sector. by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Assuming that this isn't sarcasm, there's a lesson to be learned here. If you are willing to operate on a shoestring budget, you can accomplish a lot. But you also have to be willing to look at your idea and honestly assess it's value and whether or not it's time to close up shop and move on to something else.

  4. Capital versus Operating expenses - Capital Wins by Yo_mama · · Score: 3, Informative

    I worked for The Seattle Foundation for a while (a while ago) and they serve as sort-of an intermediary between people wanting to donate and non-profits seeking funding. Donors vastly prefer to fund capital acquisitions over operating costs - it's just sexier and feels cooler to people who think in terms of growing things (money, power) by default. "Hey, I got them this new truck," sounds better than "I paid for gas and an oil change for this old truck they've had for a decade." You will find donors who believe in a cause and fund both, but they also want to have the freedom to say no and not be taken for granted.

    I have to wonder if some of this is the changing values of our population and culture.

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  5. Wellcome to the world of non-profits! by hedgemage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have worked for a variety of non-profits and written grants for them. I'm surprised that there ever was money for operating expenses available for tech-based non-profits since every foundation I've petitioned for grant money has specifically said that they do not provide operating costs. Instead, I write grants with a specific project in mind. This could be "build a new wing to the university library", "Fund staff to inventory the museum collection in storage," or "run a week-long day camp for inner-city youth that teaches non-violent conflict resolution methods."
    Unless you have some kind of revenue stream, you are going to be relying on donations and volunteers just like a community clothes closet for the homeless. Sounds like now that the gravy train of easy money is drying up these tech non-profits are being forced to demonstrate how they benefit the public good. I'm sure that there are many worthy causes, but now their in the wild competing for the same dollars and mind-share as food pantries, elder advocacy groups, and animal shelters.

    1. Re:Wellcome to the world of non-profits! by hedgemage · · Score: 4, Informative

      Replying to my own comment because I thought of another good point.

      Non-profit does not mean you can't make money. In fact, as long as you follow the rules for organization, reporting, etc. you can make money hand over fist. Think about how every private school in the US is able to function and some grow quite fat off of those tuition dollars. If you have a tech-based non-profit that (for example) provides computer programming education to disadvantaged youth, or provides systems and education for the elderly, there's nothing to stop you from doing consulting, selling spare parts, or charging for other services as long as those proceeds are plowed right back into the organization to feed your key mission.

      Too many people think that non-profit means you aren't a normal business. You are! You simply have convinced the government that it is in the public's best interest to let you exist free of the burden of taxes.

  6. Re:Get a government job by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Informative

    You never hear about the government laying people off unless they misbehave, and government salaries and benefits are way higher than the private sector.

    Can I move to your planet? It sounds like a good place to get a job.

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  7. Why should you survive? by onyxruby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why should your non-profit survive when compared to any of the others? The overwhelming majority are staffed with good people with good intentions who work for very little money. The problem is one over-saturation for the market and a donation fatigue from a public that is burned out. There are hundreds of thousands of non-profits in the US alone and every single one of them thinks that /they/ are the most important.

    When a business starts to think that they 'deserve' our money we accuse them of entitlement (e.g. Circuit City) and vilify them. A non-profit really isn't any different in that they serve a function that costs money and in order to survive need to take in money. Like a business they can merge, be bought or go bankrupt.

    Frankly if more non-profits started to merge it would enable greater economies of scale and efficiencies, just like a business. It would also enable them to spend more money on their mission and less money on overhead. Services from secretarial to bandwidth to phone banks could be shared at greater efficiency across more organizations.

    Perhaps my answer seems callous, but the bottom line is that no organization is entitled to survive. Non-profits need to embrace what the business world has done and go through a series of mergers for the greater good. Are your clients better served by your merging with another organization because you are stretched so thin that you are no longer effective?

    People typically start and run non-profits because their ego tells them that they can do better than the person already running a like kind service. Society as a whole would benefit enormously if non-profits put their missions before their egos. These warm hearted organizations need some cold blooded business acumen.

  8. so just claim your org is pro-war by decora · · Score: 5, Funny

    example:

    old slogan: we give used computers to poor people

    new slogan: by recruiting young people into the Infosec milieu, we help america defend against the goddam commie chinese hackers and the motherfucking russians who are trying to make our power system go offline so they can invade our country, kill our leaders, and convert us to non-americanism.

  9. Re:there are nations worse than China by khallow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They also had a good culture that did not engage in much territorial expansion, like the Europeans did.

    China's history is chock full of territorial expansion. That's how it was created in the first place and how most subsequent empires became established, for example. And it has modern military adventures such as the conquest of Tibet or the overthrow of French Indochina.

    The big dispute was over Chinese trade with foreigners.

    For a few brief decades. China has had many other disputes over the millennia.

    The big question, is who won the Cultural Revolution?

    The Culturan Revolution wasn't a "dispute", but rather the stamping of ants, 1984-style, to show who was in charge. The ants lost. The ones doing the stamping won.

    Don't confuse "culture" with "capability". China in the past didn't have the capability to project its power very far. It was able to win wars in Sri Lanka for example at extraordinary cost. Today it like every other major country has global reach. I believe it will be different and the culture will turn out to be not all that different after all.