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Steubenville Hacker Faces Longer Prison Sentence Than the Rapists
joeflies writes "In a previous Slashdot article, hackers worked to preserve content for the Steubenville rape case. The two football players charged received juvenile detention sentences of one and two years. One of the hackers, on the other hand, faces 10 years in prison."
I am literally speechless.
The system is totally fucked up, and I mean, TOTALLY FUCKED UP !!!
Never in my life I could imaging the government in the United States could be so fucked up !
Not only they broke the CONSTITUTION with their phone tapping and their PRISM, now they are doing that to the people who volunteered their skill to preserve what needed to preserve - THE EVIDENCES which had helped the prosecutors in that rape case !!
FUCK MAN !!!
United States is NO LONGER the land of the free, and those who live in it are no longer the braves, either !!!
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
So... hacking into a fratboy's fb account is a more serious charge than raping the everloving shit out of someone?
Any tips on bulk-order condoms and hockey masks?
Juveniles get different sentences to adults. "Vigilante Hacker" is an adult and the reported possible sentence is "maximum possible" which is quite different to "an actual sentence".
But it's OK for the government to hack everybody, all the time. FTG
I must say...it is a perversion of justice, puns not intended.
I may need to write to one of my local reps, Zoe Lofgren who's working to change the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to make it "less vague" and have her add some other reforms.
Sure, "hacking" for vigilantism is wrong and two wrongs don't make it right, but neither does three: throwing the book at Deric Lostutter.
heck, that guy in texas who killed that escort got less
The rapist is a danger to the individual. The hacker is a danger to the government. Now you know which is held in higher regard in our new fundamentally reshaped America.
article is BS.. comparing "could get" vs "did get" and getting slashdot nerds in a lather for no valid reason as if they were impressionable rush limbuagh listeners.
It doesn't make sense to compare actual sentences (and in this case juvenile sentences!) with theoretical maximums for adult defendants
What they did, the way they fingered that poor girl, took video of it, and then spread the vid to everybody they knew, -- if that happened to your daughter, would you still say that it's a "juvenile" case ?
At first, he thought the FBI agent at the door was with FedEx. "As I open the door to greet the driver, approximately 12 FBI SWAT team agents jumped out of the truck, screaming for me to 'Get the fuck down!' with M-16 assault rifles and full riot gear, armed, safety off, pointed directly at my head," Lostutter wrote today on his blog. "I was handcuffed and detained outside while they cleared my house."
That's either an intimidation tactic or the geniuses at the FBI have seen too many Rambo reruns. A 12 person SWAT team to serve a search warrant on one person who they have no reason to believe is violent? If it was proportional, they would have sent an armored division to arrest the rapists. Somehow I doubt they did.
This is nothing new. We, as a society, recognized long ago that children do stupid shit and sometimes shouldn't receive the full punishment for their actions.
If the Steubenville rapists had been tried as adults (and I think they should have), they would have been facing up to 25 years in prison. Under certain circumstances, Ohio law allows for a sentence of life in prison for someone convicted of rape, too, but I don't think that applies to those two. As it is, they not only have their sentences, but they're going to be added to the sex offender list for anywhere from ten years to life. They're going to find it very difficult to find jobs and places to live while they're on that list.
There's nothing shockingly disproportionate about a maximum of 10 years for hacking vs a maximum of 25/life for rape. You might argue about the specific numbers, but I think everyone will agree that rape is the more serious crime and Ohio law allows for more serious consequences, just as it should.
Since when has voting ever been enough? You need to join activist organizations. Volunteer for campaigns. Write letters to your representatives (look what letter writing did to SOPA).
The idea that being a couch potato for two years, then driving down to the polls and casting a vote is enough is ridiculous.
Real change isn't something that happens that passively. Learn some history. Look what it took to get the Civil Rights Act passed.
Please lower your voice or you'll end up in Gitmo.
The USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Individuals who believe in civil rights have often been targeted by the government and imprisoned by the government (see: citizens of Japanese-decent during WW2, the labor movement during the 1930s, the many various human rights movements, the Black Panthers, Nixon's spying on the Democratic Party Headquarters, etc etc etc). The glaringly racist drug policies (see: powdered cocaine vs crack sentencing) and systemic poverty have combined to create a wonderful system of ethnic cleansing for Young Black Males, no barbwire required.
While you're not speaking, re-read the article or summary. They compare the sentence someone involved actually received to the maximum possible sentence any hacker could theoretically get. Most commonly, a first time offender "facing ten years" will end up with probation. At this point, we have no idea what punishment the hacker will get, if any at all.
OTOH, those who did cop-out, didn't end up in the oven ...
In fact, some of those ended up in places where they could do something about it; places like Oak Ridge, TN and Los Alamos, NM. The Jews (among others) paid an horrific price to re-learn something they should never have forgotten. You don't submit weakly to tyrrany. You don't just move a little bit down the road when a pogrom razes your town. Despite their many faults, at least the Israelis got that.
Now, if only the USA can re-learn what folly was Nazi Germany ...
The jews never submitted weakly to tyrany. Like the communists, roma, homosexuals and others they took arms up, and rioted and turned the ghettos up side down at war with the nazi oppressor.
And they all got killed, because good intentions dont mean shit when your outnumbered by a well funded military killing machine.
Stop pushing this idea that the jews just weakly went to the chambers. its bad history and its blatantly untrue.