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NSA Surveillance Heat Map: NSA Lied To Congress

anagama writes "NSA officials have repeatedly denied under oath to Congress that even producing an estimate of the number of Americans caught up in its surveillance is impossible. Leaked screenshots of an NSA application that does exactly that, prove that the NSA flat out lied (surprise). Glenn Greenwald continues his relentless attacks with another bombshell this time exposing Boundless Informant. Interestingly, the NSA spies more on America than China according to the heat map. Representative Wyden had sought amendments to FISA reauthorization bill that would have required the NSA to provide information like this (hence the NSA's lies), but Obama and Feinstein demanded a pure reauthorization of FISA, which they got at the end of 2012." And if you don't mind that you might have your name on yet another special list, you might enjoy this Twitter-based take on the ongoing news.

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  1. Lies? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    "NSA officials have repeatedly denied under oath to Congress that even producing an estimate of the number of Americans caught up in its surveillance is impossible. Leaked screenshots of an NSA application that does exactly that, ...

    They denied it was impossible, and they have a tool that does it. Where's the lie? Where's the source for this to see what the real claim is?

    The closest source says that NSA has said it cannot tell "with certainty" who or where all the participants in a communications are. They have the IP address. They're admitting that the IP address doesn't identify the user, which is what we yell at **IAA when a story of them suing someone for megabucks based on identification via IP appears here.

    The IP address doesn't tell you where they are at more than sometimes the city-level. Even with that, you don't know if the person is there or on the other side of the planet bouncing their communications through that address. I log in to my home from all over the world when I travel, so do you know where I am when I send mail from "home"? I use my work IMAP server for work email -- am I at my desk when I send an email through there from Brazil? No and no.

    Not who, not where. What lie?

  2. Re:And we all know what will happen... by craigminah · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I've distrusted Google since for many years but there's no way to protect yourself on the Internets except to be a law-abiding person.

    There's been a trend on /. where security-related or anti-governmental stories get pushed off the /. front page quickly; hidden by a sudden influx of other stories in an effort to bury them. Presumably, by US governmental /. posters to protect the US government and it's interests.

  3. Re:And we all know what will happen... by superwiz · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    The United States of Apathy.

    Bull shit! Every time news 1/100th as damaging as these came out under Bush, there was an outcry. Wasn't because we hated Bush. The news controls the narrative. They beat the drums of panic under Bush and try to play the lullabies now that they got a Communist in the White House. It's not the people who apathetic. It's the story tellers who control the story.

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