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ISPs To Censor Porn By Default In the UK By 2014

Posted by timothy on from the registered-medical-exceptions-only dept.

An anonymous reader writes "Parental filters for pornographic content will come as a default setting for all homes in the UK by the end of 2013, says David Cameron's special advisor on preventing the sexualization and commercialization of childhood, Claire Perry MP. Internet service providers will be expected to provide filtering technology to new and existing customers with an emphasis on opting out, rather than opting in."

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  1. so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Paintings and sculptures? Photography of nude people? Literature that has sections with with erotic or sexual topics (e.g. the Bible?)

    But violent media is just fine.....

    1. Re:so what is porn? by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who cares 'what is porn'? Question is, 'How do you work around the blockage'?

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    2. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Question is, 'How do you work around the blockage'?

      You can opt out (according to summary)
      And I am sure that the helpful "suspected pervert/pedophile" investigative team will be very polite. You have nothing to worry about.

    3. Re:so what is porn? by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Duh, you actually think this is something to do with porn.

      This is being used to get the censorship infrastructure in place, so it can then be expanded to cover any kind of 'bad data' in the future.

      Oh, sorry, the Slippery Slope Mafia will be along in a minute to tell me that's a logical fallacy and, yes, it really is all just about stopping kids seeing naked people.

    4. Re:so what is porn? by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      that was my point, the blockage is between politicians ears.

    5. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Am confused. Doesn't this mean that youtube/dailymotion/tumblr and many other top sites would have to be put on the porn filter by default?

      And what defines porn exactly? Sure, there's the obvious stuff, but people get off on anything. Would smoking fetish sites be classed as porn even tho the partipants are fully clothed? What about Gilbert Gottfried's epic 50 Shades of Gray reading (go on, look it up, is brilliant)?

      Surely the UK government then has to porn-block the Sun/Star for the topless girls and put a ban on the jailbait-obsessed Daily Mail and its 'side panel of shame'? But as those papers are run by assorted right-wing business interest pals of said government I have a feeling they'd be immune.

    6. Re:so what is porn? by tompaulco · · Score: 4, Informative

      Who cares 'what is porn'? Question is, 'How do you work around the blockage'?

      I imagine in much the same way that water "works it's way around the blockage" when you drop a pebble in the Colorado river.

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    7. Re:so what is porn? by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. When we get to cut 1000 and your door is being kicked in for whatever undesirable thing you are or are doing, at least we can feel smug because we knew the infrastructure for kicking in doors has been in place since the invention of doors and kicking.

      It's not that the infrastructure is in place that's wrong, it's that it's being used, and excused, and justified and made into the new normal. It's not so much scary that they're doing it, it's scary that they're not even bothering to hide it anymore.

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    8. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People don't understand that because it isn't true.

    9. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What YOU don't understand is that adults should be making these decisions for themselves. They don't need laws to regulate their exposure.

      Freedom includes the right to live an out-of-balance life, if one chooses.

    10. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't you think we should block access to religion before blocking access to porn? It seems to me religion is way more harmful than porn.

      Of course, too bad people who still believe in fairy tales will never get any appreciation for this.

    11. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. Good luck trying to get a teaching job after your decision to opt out of the censorship goes on record.

    12. Re:so what is porn? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It isn't the start.
      The start was the de-facto compulsory imposition of child porn filtering. No-one dared object to that - it was filtering child porn, after all - but it still results in every ISP operating a filter system fed by a secret blacklist produced by an organisation with no transparency, accountability or oversight.

      The second step was to then broaden the definition of child porn - something politicians at the time described as 'closing a loophole' - to include not just actual child porn but also artistic depictions of children, or things that look like children in some way (a condition put in to make sure fantasy creatures were covered), in sexual situations. Again, no-one dared oppose, for the public were told that this was needed to lock up some filthy nonce scum.

      The third step was the 'extreme porn' law, creating a new legal class of pornography which is illegal to possess. The 'extreme' wide enough that an exception was required for material classified by our film board, to avoid inadvertantly banning a James Bond film which meets the definition for one scene.

      This is step four.

      I can only speculate on step five, but if I were a moral crusader in government I would look into setting very high penalties for showing pornography to a minor, and make sure ignorance of age or best-effort age checking is no defense - that way the internet porn industry would be driven entirely offshore, because no site operator would want to run the risk of a ten year sentence and life on the sex offender register after a child sneaks onto the family computer with a browser window still open.

    13. Re:so what is porn? by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      then pictures of ankles become porn.

      or pinup girls.

      pretty soon you'll be blocking all photography.

      alcohol and tobacco are regulated because they have ill effects on health.. unlike porn.

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  2. what're they doing on the commercialization part? by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is an interesting job title:

    Special advisor on preventing the sexualization and commercialization of childhood

    Will she also be proposing that UK homes have AdBlock on by default by 2014, to ensure that kids don't get too many ads targeted at them?

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  3. Why not block other things by default, too? by coId+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can request to get around the filters, after all, so why not block other things as well? Religious websites would be a decent start. What's wrong...? Suddenly blocking things by default is bad because you don't like what's being blocked this time around?

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  4. "government effort to force ISPs" by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In the article, Kadhim Shubber wrote:

    government effort to force ISPs

    Anonymous Coward wrote:

    how about the ISPs focus on merely PROVIDING THE INTERNET SERVICE rather than POLICING IT.

    ISPs in Britain aren't free to provide Internet service without policing it. To do so they would have to move their operations out of Britain. How exactly is that feasible?

  5. Re:what're they doing on the commercialization par by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And TV ads... are not those commercialization of childhood? What about an opt-out for those? (I personally would like that).

  6. Re:how about by madprof · · Score: 5, Funny

    fucking brits

    Sorry, not allowed to see those.

  7. Re:what're they doing on the commercialization par by rossdee · · Score: 5, Funny

    ""hate sites" (basically anything not PC)"

    Like Apple?

  8. Censoring porn is easy by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Censoring porn is easy.

    Not censoring non-porn is easy.

    Doing both at the same time is virtually impossible.

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  9. Join the Open Rights Group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    Actually, Claire Perry is pretty much a laughing stock even inside her own party. This is extremely unlikely to happen - too many people in government and the civil service in the UK are now savvy to how stupid this is.

    All that said now is still a great time to join the Open Rights Group - just to make sure.

  10. well, the man's penis goes in the lady's vagina by decora · · Score: 5, Funny

    also sometimes a guys penis goes in a guys mouth, or a guys anus, or sometimes a womans anus has a penis going in it and another penis going in her vagina at the same time, thats called double penetration

    also there is uhm, bukkake, where a bunch of guys jerk off onto a woman and/or man.

    then there is fetish porn, like, you know, some people are really into casts. like casts like you get for a broken bone. they think its sexy.

    also there is like uhm, bestiality. where like people are fucking dogs and horses

    then there is tentacle porn. it helps if you speak japanese.

    ok then there is 'porn for women' which is a lot like other porn but with a soft lighting scheme

    then there is lesbian porn. alot of them are not really lesbians.

    but mostly i guess id say that porn is uhm, film production where nobody gets payed union scale.

  11. Perfect Match by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    Question is: Whose eyes will decide this question?

    Finally, we have found the perfect use for Amazon's Mechanical Turk.

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  12. Sue them whenever they fail to censor anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anybody with children. Please, the moment they start the censorship, sue them whenever you discover that your child has found any porn at all. If they start censoring, make them liable for their failure to censor well. With some luck they will have to quit trying.

  13. Re:If 51% want it blocked by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, this is the UK.

    We get a choice of three parties, none of which represent our opinions on most issues.