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ISPs To Censor Porn By Default In the UK By 2014

An anonymous reader writes "Parental filters for pornographic content will come as a default setting for all homes in the UK by the end of 2013, says David Cameron's special advisor on preventing the sexualization and commercialization of childhood, Claire Perry MP. Internet service providers will be expected to provide filtering technology to new and existing customers with an emphasis on opting out, rather than opting in."

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  1. so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Paintings and sculptures? Photography of nude people? Literature that has sections with with erotic or sexual topics (e.g. the Bible?)

    But violent media is just fine.....

    1. Re:so what is porn? by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who cares 'what is porn'? Question is, 'How do you work around the blockage'?

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    2. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Question is, 'How do you work around the blockage'?

      You can opt out (according to summary)
      And I am sure that the helpful "suspected pervert/pedophile" investigative team will be very polite. You have nothing to worry about.

    3. Re:so what is porn? by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Duh, you actually think this is something to do with porn.

      This is being used to get the censorship infrastructure in place, so it can then be expanded to cover any kind of 'bad data' in the future.

      Oh, sorry, the Slippery Slope Mafia will be along in a minute to tell me that's a logical fallacy and, yes, it really is all just about stopping kids seeing naked people.

    4. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ..This is being used to get the censorship infrastructure in place, so it can then be expanded to cover any kind of 'bad data' in the future.

      I hate to break it to you, but the infrastructure is already in place, and has been so for a number of years.

    5. Re:so what is porn? by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      that was my point, the blockage is between politicians ears.

    6. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Am confused. Doesn't this mean that youtube/dailymotion/tumblr and many other top sites would have to be put on the porn filter by default?

      And what defines porn exactly? Sure, there's the obvious stuff, but people get off on anything. Would smoking fetish sites be classed as porn even tho the partipants are fully clothed? What about Gilbert Gottfried's epic 50 Shades of Gray reading (go on, look it up, is brilliant)?

      Surely the UK government then has to porn-block the Sun/Star for the topless girls and put a ban on the jailbait-obsessed Daily Mail and its 'side panel of shame'? But as those papers are run by assorted right-wing business interest pals of said government I have a feeling they'd be immune.

    7. Re:so what is porn? by Servaas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Then teach them that the Internet is a precious commodity and that not everything is kid friendly but as they grow older they can start using it more to their appropriate ages. Its not that tough but stop trying to off shore parenting to your fucking government.

    8. Re:so what is porn? by tompaulco · · Score: 4, Informative

      Who cares 'what is porn'? Question is, 'How do you work around the blockage'?

      I imagine in much the same way that water "works it's way around the blockage" when you drop a pebble in the Colorado river.

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    9. Re:so what is porn? by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. When we get to cut 1000 and your door is being kicked in for whatever undesirable thing you are or are doing, at least we can feel smug because we knew the infrastructure for kicking in doors has been in place since the invention of doors and kicking.

      It's not that the infrastructure is in place that's wrong, it's that it's being used, and excused, and justified and made into the new normal. It's not so much scary that they're doing it, it's scary that they're not even bothering to hide it anymore.

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    10. Re:so what is porn? by jonfr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are mistaken on one thing. It is the political right, or mix of many factors that is the source of this. As such there is no central source for this, with the exception of current government in the U.K.

    11. Re:so what is porn? by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      An excellent question about a very nuanced and complex issue. I'm guessing the answer they will come up with be "Experts will define it" and the experts will be whoever set the default settings for censoring software that successfully schmoozes the right ISP executives and or politicians.

      On the violent media thing, the logic there is that kids are more likely to have sex than go on violent rampages, which is not totally crazy. The crazy part is that kids are going to be brainwashed by media out there, and that sex is as worrisome as violence, but the being more concerned about youths reproducing than worrying about youths reenacting Terminator, that makes some sense at least.

    12. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People don't understand that because it isn't true.

    13. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What YOU don't understand is that adults should be making these decisions for themselves. They don't need laws to regulate their exposure.

      Freedom includes the right to live an out-of-balance life, if one chooses.

    14. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't you think we should block access to religion before blocking access to porn? It seems to me religion is way more harmful than porn.

      Of course, too bad people who still believe in fairy tales will never get any appreciation for this.

    15. Re:so what is porn? by dryeo · · Score: 2

      The mistake is to divide politics in 2 directions, left and right or liberal and conservative. You can have fiscally conservative, socially liberal people and the opposite so left vs right isn't clear cut. Then you also have the 2 directions of authoritarian vs libertarian. Either can be left or right. Currently almost all politicians are authoritarian. See http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2
      About political correct speech. Both sides play that card, here in Canada it is currently very politically incorrect to call the bitumen sands tar sands instead of oil sands even though bitumen has much in common with tar.

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    16. Re:so what is porn? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Other than your family. Because some day Mother is going to come round to visit, and just to test if you are being a good little boy quickly check if she can see sex.com. Then you have to endure an hour-long lecture about how the 'didn't raise you this way.'

      I'd say the same applies to girlfriends, but... slashdot.

    17. Re:so what is porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. Good luck trying to get a teaching job after your decision to opt out of the censorship goes on record.

    18. Re:so what is porn? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It isn't the start.
      The start was the de-facto compulsory imposition of child porn filtering. No-one dared object to that - it was filtering child porn, after all - but it still results in every ISP operating a filter system fed by a secret blacklist produced by an organisation with no transparency, accountability or oversight.

      The second step was to then broaden the definition of child porn - something politicians at the time described as 'closing a loophole' - to include not just actual child porn but also artistic depictions of children, or things that look like children in some way (a condition put in to make sure fantasy creatures were covered), in sexual situations. Again, no-one dared oppose, for the public were told that this was needed to lock up some filthy nonce scum.

      The third step was the 'extreme porn' law, creating a new legal class of pornography which is illegal to possess. The 'extreme' wide enough that an exception was required for material classified by our film board, to avoid inadvertantly banning a James Bond film which meets the definition for one scene.

      This is step four.

      I can only speculate on step five, but if I were a moral crusader in government I would look into setting very high penalties for showing pornography to a minor, and make sure ignorance of age or best-effort age checking is no defense - that way the internet porn industry would be driven entirely offshore, because no site operator would want to run the risk of a ten year sentence and life on the sex offender register after a child sneaks onto the family computer with a browser window still open.

    19. Re:so what is porn? by Loki_666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I also heard there are Muslamic Ray guns!

      You do know these courts have no legal standing in the UK?

    20. Re:so what is porn? by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      then pictures of ankles become porn.

      or pinup girls.

      pretty soon you'll be blocking all photography.

      alcohol and tobacco are regulated because they have ill effects on health.. unlike porn.

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    21. Re:so what is porn? by Chrisq · · Score: 2

      what people don't understand is that porn is a bad thing when there is too much exposure, so it does a lot of good for people to block their access or at least make it harder to access... too bad they'll never get any appreciation for it...

      People don't understand that because it isn't true.

      I don't know, sometimes my writs gets rather sore

    22. Re:so what is porn? by AbsGeekNZ · · Score: 2

      Are you serrious, have you no self control? Chemistry is a part yes but concious decisions are far more powerful, hell a human can hold their breath until they pass out. At which point the autonomic control kicks back in so that you don't die. I think that access to [heavy metal / rap / counrty (pick your poison)] music is far too easy and as a damaging infulence in peoples lives, so it does a lot of good for people to block their access or at least make it harder to access

    23. Re:so what is porn? by Noughmad · · Score: 2

      There will also be a very long list of perfectly unacceptable pages that won't get blocked. That, or they block everything.

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    24. Re: so what is porn? by gsslay · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well that's rather the point. Once you start blocking access to things, because someone is of the opinion you're not to be trusted to control yourself, or fully understand its limitations and dangers, then where do you draw the line?

      Follow this line of thinking and ultimately you are advocating keeping people ignorant, because information, (any information) can be a dangerous thing.

    25. Re:so what is porn? by Bearhouse · · Score: 2

      The UK already operates 85 Sharia courts. They have limited power, for now. .

      I found this hard to believe, so looked. It's true...

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/tv-and-radio-reviews/10011260/Panorama-Inside-Britains-Sharia-Courts-BBC-One-review.html
      (One of many references)

      A depressing extract from the undercover researcher/journalist who went to get advice on a (fictional) abusive husband:

      “He hits me,” she maintained. Should she leave her home? Should she go to the police?

      “The police, that is the very last resort,” said Dr Hasan. Instead, apparently, she should ask her husband: “Is it because of my cooking? Is it because I see my friends? So I can correct myself.”

      Right. "Correct yourself"

      Rather than continuing to undermine the hard-won universal values and freedoms on which our western democracies are (supposed to be) based, with crap like this porn-filtering and spying on our data, how about working to ensure that people who need help actually get it?
      People like the Boston Bombers were not stopped by the NSA; they might not have acted if we all, individually and collectively, had manged to convince them that the 'western way' is better. Or failing that, just invited them not leave if they don't like our society.

      We're failing on both fronts...the people who need help don't get it, and the ones who fight our values from within don't get stopped and/or thrown out.
      so yeah, just filter the porn...much easier

    26. Re: so what is porn? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      You are looking at just wealth and wages. In terms of the variation between the quality of abode, the standard of healthcare and the life expectancy of the poorest and the richest things have been improving. Thatcher and Regan did a lot of damage but the baseline is still way above where it was 100 years ago.

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    27. Re:so what is porn? by dreamchaser · · Score: 2

      what people don't understand is that porn is a bad thing when there is too much exposure, so it does a lot of good for people to block their access or at least make it harder to access... too bad they'll never get any appreciation for it...

      People don't understand that because it isn't true.

      I don't know, sometimes my writs gets rather sore

      The chafing man, don't forget the chafing!

    28. Re:so what is porn? by stdarg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some people are predisposed to hoarding cats. Some people end up with 37 cats in their apartment. But who would say cats can (not always, or possibly even often) cause people to become cat hoarders. I mean technically it's true, in that it's a trigger for a certain type of person, but it's quite clear the person was already crazy.

    29. Re: so what is porn? by daem0n1x · · Score: 2

      By your reasoning we should ban science too, it correlates terribly fine with social unequalty!

      Would you care to back your utter bullshit with some data?

  2. what're they doing on the commercialization part? by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is an interesting job title:

    Special advisor on preventing the sexualization and commercialization of childhood

    Will she also be proposing that UK homes have AdBlock on by default by 2014, to ensure that kids don't get too many ads targeted at them?

  3. how about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    how about the ISPs focus on merely PROVIDING THE INTERNET SERVICE rather than POLICING IT.

    seriously.

    fucking brits

    1. Re:how about by c0lo · · Score: 3, Funny

      fucking brits

      Beg your pardon, but allow me to correct you, chap. That would be "bloody brits", if you don't mind.

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    2. Re:how about by madprof · · Score: 5, Funny

      fucking brits

      Sorry, not allowed to see those.

  4. Why not block other things by default, too? by coId+fjord · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You can request to get around the filters, after all, so why not block other things as well? Religious websites would be a decent start. What's wrong...? Suddenly blocking things by default is bad because you don't like what's being blocked this time around?

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    1. Re:Why not block other things by default, too? by lightknight · · Score: 2

      Indeed. It'll be wonderful when they start charging extra for this service because *ding * ding* ding* censorship is, surprisingly, not free, so the costs will need to be offloaded somewhere, either in the form of a rate hike for customers, or money from the taxpayers. But I'm sure the UK has loads of money to spare, won't miss a few pouinds here and there, right? Doing well this global recession, right?

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  5. Re:what're they doing on the commercialization par by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, but you can bet this won't stop at "porn". It will be "hate sites" (basically anything not PC) and sites that they claim are copyright infringing too.

  6. "government effort to force ISPs" by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In the article, Kadhim Shubber wrote:

    government effort to force ISPs

    Anonymous Coward wrote:

    how about the ISPs focus on merely PROVIDING THE INTERNET SERVICE rather than POLICING IT.

    ISPs in Britain aren't free to provide Internet service without policing it. To do so they would have to move their operations out of Britain. How exactly is that feasible?

  7. Is the sarcasm detector on? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You want to what? Opt out?

    You fucking pervert!

    People like you don't deserve to be on the Internet!

  8. Re:what're they doing on the commercialization par by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And TV ads... are not those commercialization of childhood? What about an opt-out for those? (I personally would like that).

  9. Re:what're they doing on the commercialization par by rossdee · · Score: 5, Funny

    ""hate sites" (basically anything not PC)"

    Like Apple?

  10. Dangerous ideas by tmosley · · Score: 2

    Knowledge is inherently dangerous, and we need the government to decide what is dangerous. Ignorance must be maintained at all costs. Praise CoE Jesus!

  11. Censoring porn is easy by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Censoring porn is easy.

    Not censoring non-porn is easy.

    Doing both at the same time is virtually impossible.

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  12. Who'll decide what porn actually is? by bogaboga · · Score: 2

    I guess there will be plenty of folks who will say something to the effect, "I know what porn is when I see it."

    Question is: Whose eyes will decide this question?

  13. Join the Open Rights Group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    Actually, Claire Perry is pretty much a laughing stock even inside her own party. This is extremely unlikely to happen - too many people in government and the civil service in the UK are now savvy to how stupid this is.

    All that said now is still a great time to join the Open Rights Group - just to make sure.

    1. Re:Join the Open Rights Group by Epeeist · · Score: 2

      Actually, Claire Perry is pretty much a laughing stock even inside her own party.

      As are several others including the minister for Health (who believes in homoeopathy) and the minister for work and pensions (who faked his own CV) and the minister for local government (who looks as though he has eaten his way through the output of a pie factory). But all of the ministers in this government simply ignore any evidence which runs counter to their ideology.

  14. well, the man's penis goes in the lady's vagina by decora · · Score: 5, Funny

    also sometimes a guys penis goes in a guys mouth, or a guys anus, or sometimes a womans anus has a penis going in it and another penis going in her vagina at the same time, thats called double penetration

    also there is uhm, bukkake, where a bunch of guys jerk off onto a woman and/or man.

    then there is fetish porn, like, you know, some people are really into casts. like casts like you get for a broken bone. they think its sexy.

    also there is like uhm, bestiality. where like people are fucking dogs and horses

    then there is tentacle porn. it helps if you speak japanese.

    ok then there is 'porn for women' which is a lot like other porn but with a soft lighting scheme

    then there is lesbian porn. alot of them are not really lesbians.

    but mostly i guess id say that porn is uhm, film production where nobody gets payed union scale.

    1. Re:well, the man's penis goes in the lady's vagina by Golddess · · Score: 2

      So then you just need to find a friend to trade roles with. One night your friend pays you and the hooker, the next, you pay your friend and the hooker.

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  15. the irony - BBC covered up child abuse by decora · · Score: 2

    in the jimmy savile case, and there are numerous, and i do mean numerous, cases of government corruption in covering up massive child abuse in "care homes" (homes for orphans, etc) in Great Britain, but also in its pseudo-attached islands of Guernsey, Jersey, etc.

  16. Perfect Match by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    Question is: Whose eyes will decide this question?

    Finally, we have found the perfect use for Amazon's Mechanical Turk.

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  17. Better that than IPv6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    At least we ensure that those same ISPs don't waste their time investing on IPv6 deployment

  18. Re:What is the age of consent for bank robbery? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    Because sex is unnatural.

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  19. Privacy is a sham by MaxDollarCash · · Score: 2

    Nearly every day we read a story of the government wiping their ass with the constitution. Every day there is a story telling us how the government is tapping each landline, mobile, internet connected computer, satellite uplink,... All this happens daily and I have not seen mass protests. We here at slashdot (tech savy people) know whats going on. We know that this is just the tip of the iceberg and there is lots more going on. Still no reaction from the general public. Its like the population of the United States has become numb to these stringent violation of human rights, basic privacy laws, the constitution and the declaration of independence. Seeing people just completely ignore these facts and just continue eating their McDonalds and watching their episodes of glee on tv makes me sick to my stomach. We got 2 choices as educated citizens: Either say "f*ck you" to the general population and we continue to protect ourself with Tor, PGP, Darknets/Freenet, SSH tunnels, Proxies OR All the hackers, nerds, tech savy people around the world to unite and make a new internet. Independent of government and corporate control. Protocols that are inherently secure. Transport methods in which the nodes where data passes trough doesn't know the content, sender or destination. (I know many of you will scream tor) but TOR is not the solution. We need transparent methods. Methods that can be used by joe average. Mod me down, I don't care its your loss.

  20. Opt out? by GrahamCox · · Score: 2

    I think it will be interesting, assuming that the whole thing is even feasible in any way, to see what the percentage of opt-out ends up being. I suspect it will be 2-3% at most.

  21. Is this opt-in policy applied to phone-sex lines? by svvampy · · Score: 2

    Or is that different because the carrier gets their slice of the pie?

  22. Sue them whenever they fail to censor anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anybody with children. Please, the moment they start the censorship, sue them whenever you discover that your child has found any porn at all. If they start censoring, make them liable for their failure to censor well. With some luck they will have to quit trying.

  23. Re:If 51% want it blocked by fafaforza · · Score: 2

    Has that ever worked? You'll get to elections 3 years after the fact, and people will either have forgotten, or the opponent will have even fewer things in common with you, that you end up voting for the lesser of two evils, though it might be the one that instituted censorship. Multiply this process by everyone that votes, district shenanigans, etc, and that theory is so diluted, that it might as well be a fallacy.

  24. Read between the lines... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    You cannot censor Internet porn- and this is the whole point. Tony Blair (these actions are actually his, just like the declaration of war against Syria by the USA and EU) knows this, so what is the real game?

    1) filters are activated at the ISP level, actually representing the widest and most repressive Internet censorship regime on the planet
    2) every other third-world hell hole immediately justifies its acts of censorship by quoting the UK
    3) the porn censor 'fails' and the UK tabloid press goes into over-drive demanding even harsher measures to plug all the un-pluggable holes that every system of porn censorship has
    4) Blair's people announce another massive extension to Internet censorship to solve this 'problem'
    5) meantime the tabloids and the BBC are now running campaigns stating that house-holds with people under 18 are actually engaging in child-abuse if they opt out of the filter.
    6) Blair's people introduce legislation that formally makes it a criminal offence to be the cause of any person under 18 seeing 'pornographic' material
    7) the porn filters are extended to remove access to all those sites the police state loathes, like alternate news outlets.
    8) the BBC and the tabloids now step up their campaigning against ALL web-sites that fail to align with UK government policy. This will especially include anti-war sites, or sites that contradict the propaganda messages the BBC targets at young people.

    In the meantime, Blair will have moved his war of genocide in Syria to a full blown war against Iran (a war that is intended to openly use nuclear weapons for the first time since WW2- America has covertly used various forms of nuclear weapons in conflicts since Japan). Blair's total clamp-down on the Web will just be seen a 'war-powers' act.

    Blair finds the advantages of the 'slippery slope' principle to be hilarious, and has initiated as many uses of this method as possible in the UK. The population of Britain hate what is being done to them, but they also give Blair's acts their passive support as well. For instance, Blair is extending the age of compulsory education to 18, without spending even one penny building new facilities for all the extra young people who will be forced to attend some form of schooling for an extra two years. This is because the program is actually intended to introduced 'national service' (conscription) by the back door. Families with young people who fail to attend government approved training centres are to be subject to massive criminal penalties.

    Given that it will prove impossible for parents to FORCE the attendance of young people who do not wish to participate, the idea is that these parents will be coerced to thrown their 16-18 year olds out of the family home. However, Blair has ensured that people of this age get no social support from the government. Faced with this nightmare, the BBC and the tabloids are to encourage such parents to demand that the government conscripts their young adult children into Blair's military training camps, so the parents no longer have legal responsibility for their children's attendance.

    This is one of Blair's classic manufactured PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION ploys.

    While dribbling cretins will try to tell you Blair and his New Labour movement are no longer in power, every single one of Blair's initiatives that he could not get through parliament under a 'Labour' regime is being successfully implemented by his lieutenants that 'head' the Liberal and Conservative parties. Unknown to most sheep in the UK, Blair's man David Blunkett oversees the program to extend schooling to 18, and to use the fallout to introduce conscription. Embryo conscription projects have been rolling out across Britain for 3 years now, in the form of para-military training camps offered to young people across the long Summer holiday.

    Britain is the centre of the spider's web. The 'dumb brutes' of the USA merely provide the muscle. Social engineering of a form beyond the wildest imagination of you Yanks in common-

    1. Re:Read between the lines... by Maritz · · Score: 2

      Is that you, David? Still getting good attendances at your talks? See you on abovetopsecret.com mate. Keep the tin foil handy.

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  25. No Sex, Please. by pscottdv · · Score: 2

    We're British.

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  26. Re:What is the age of consent for bank robbery? by lightknight · · Score: 2

    Because it's something that tends to arouse strong emotions in people...who wants to explain to their 8 year old son or daughter why dad is pitching a tent, or why mom doesn't let the plumber slap her ass like in the movies? Like it or not, people are more de-sensitized to violence than they are to sexual situations; and that makes some people uncomfortable. They seek not to understand their emotions, and come to some peace with them, but to wall them off or control them; their final plan is a human race that looks like the Vulcan race...except with less emotion. Since this is liable to backfire (emotions are hideously strong, and those who claim to successfully control them are usually most subordinate to them), we are all going to suffer for it.

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  27. Re:If 51% want it blocked by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, this is the UK.

    We get a choice of three parties, none of which represent our opinions on most issues.

  28. Re:This is already being done by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's worse than that. During the wikipedia block incident, it was noticed that many ISPs 'block' sites by intercepting the HTTP request and returning a false 404 error.

    They are so secretive that even when they block a site, they deliberately make it look like there was a technical error. They could be blocking thousands of innocent sites right now, and no-one would notice. The internet is full of 404s, a few more won't raise any attention.