Slashdot Mirror


Google's Crazy Lack of Focus: Is It Really Serious About Enterprise?

curtwoodward writes "Driverless cars. Balloon-based wireless networks. Face-mounted computers. Gigabit broadband networks. In recent months, Google has been unveiling a series of transformative side projects that paint a picture of the search pioneer expanding far beyond an online advertising company. At the same time, Google has been trying to convince enterprise software buyers that it's finally, really, truly serious about competing with Microsoft for their business. Which version of Google's future should you believe?"

46 of 226 comments (clear)

  1. All of them. by CRC'99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is no real reason why Google can't do all of these things. Their core market is information. Gathering information. Processing information. Sorting and utilising information.

    Once you're good at this, it isn't hard to expand into various uses for that information.

    --
    Sendmail is like emacs: A nice operating system, but missing an editor and a MTA.
    1. Re:All of them. by Cenan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is no real reason why Google can't do all of these things

      Except closing down projects that don't meet arbitrary internal goals without warning. Nobody is going to trust Google with enterprisey stuff, since they can't seem to hold focus long enough for people to actually build an infrastructure around their offerings. When the next new thing comes along, guess which balloon side project gets canned, for no reason, with no warning, leaving countless gimps clamoring for an alternative that is nowhere to be found.

      They might be all about processing information, but they can't seem to actually monetize this beyond shoving ads in their users faces.

      --
      ... whatever ...
    2. Re:All of them. by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Absolutely. There are historical precedents. Bell labs did things as diverse as writing Unix, inventing the transistor, and the construction of DNA machines.

    3. Re:All of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They have a pretty good migration shedule, sure, they "close" stuff without warning, but they give you plenty of time to get your data out. And most things that they close are not as popular as some of the users believe they are.

      Since there is no alternative to be found, you also suggest that their producs are often either way better than the competition or really in niche markets. You can't really force them to keep running losing products, certainly not if they do not contribute to their core information gathering strategy. Youtube ran losses for a while, but it worked well with what they had.

      Also, while ads certainly are their biggest feature, they have quite a few other products that either manage to substantially offset their costs or give profits.
      Further on, it is also possible that contrary to what the title suggests, google really is focussed and all their products have something to do with the information gathering and processing that seems to be their core. And that does seem true. The fiber they roll out is because they want the internet to become faster, because nearly all of their business is on the internet, for android they want a better online mobile experience and have an ad market there. Chrome tries to improve the browser world to ensure they can get the informationt they need. Balloon wireless service just the same. Google knows that once the third world gets a bit of money, they will be looking to buy stuff like a washing machine, which they want to be the one showing the ad for. I am not sure I can fit the driveless car anywhere in the picture, but probably they don't want you to go offline during commute, they want you to be able to see their ads, especially since you will be near stores that do the advertising.

    4. Re:All of them. by Sollord · · Score: 2

      Well save for the fact one can still buy the Google Search Appliance the only one they totaly stopped making was the limited and pointless MIni version. There was a small time frame it was unavailable as they got ready to launch the GSA7

    5. Re:All of them. by Errtu76 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed. Take for example my startpage iGoogle, which is now going to be abandoned. And they have the nerve to shut it down with only 1.5 years prior warning. Bastards.

    6. Re:All of them. by su5so10 · · Score: 2

      Google Appliance is still an active project. They are even hiring.

    7. Re:All of them. by flyneye · · Score: 3, Funny

      Flip a coin, shut down a program and call the accountants to call it a loss on taxes. What's the problem here? Looks ordinary to me.
      Next up, the Google inflatable mate w/ bucking mechanism and heater, it makes it's own pr0n movies and uploads them to Redtube while you pump away.
      It collects customer data to recommend lube, toys or Viagra. It also has a government backdoor...

      --
      *Repent!Quit Your Job!Slack Off!The World Ends Tomorrow and You May Die!
    8. Re:All of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thats why I had "close" between brackets. The parent post said "without warning" and I decided to stick with it. Their announcements of projects ending does come unexpected sometimes, but their actual closing date is very reasonable, with plenty of time to migrate.

    9. Re:All of them. by MrMickS · · Score: 2

      As a frequent Google products user (mail, phone, tablet, maps...) I wonder how good is for us to depend on a single company for every service required in an urban life style: Mobile devices, computers, cars, network connections... Whats next, Google schools? All of these reminds me of scifi distopic societies.

      Given what you use I wouldn't worry, you've already given in and been absorbed into the hive mind.

      Seriously. If this was anyone but Google /. would be up in arms about the breadth of control and influence they have over people's lives. Sadly there is a blindness where Google is concerned on here as on many other technical sites. Google have too much influence now. Its about time people stopped and thought about it.

      --
      You may think me a tired, old, cynic. I'd have to disagree about the tired bit.
    10. Re:All of them. by fatrat · · Score: 2

      Google Secure Data Connector. Totally an enterprise focused product. Never really supported (getting it to work involved reading the source code), now announced to be closed with no replacement (though with a suitably long 18 month lead time).

    11. Re:All of them. by gtbritishskull · · Score: 2

      Driverless Car - Surfing the internet and looking at Google Ads while *not* driving.

    12. Re:All of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They have a pretty good migration schedule

      Yeah - for your PERSONAL stuff that takes you 20 minutes to migrate or backup.

      You've clearly never managed an enterprise software product. The entire point of enterprise software is that it affords deep integration into your workflows and internal processes and systems throughout the company.

      "We're closing this down in 6 months" is barely enough time to plan a migration, much less actually PERFORM the migration. And that's the point: if Google wants BUSINESSES to trust that Google isn't going to pull the rug out from under them, then Google needs to start taking migrations and end-of-life's seriously.

      It's fine if they want to be a consumer advertising company, and don't want the enterprise business. But the entire article is based on the premise that Google wants this "Enterprise" business.

      they have quite a few other products that either manage to substantially offset their costs or give profits.

      No, they really don't. 95+% of their revenues are generated by advertising. They make virtually NO money from any source that is not advertising. Go look at their financial statements.

    13. Re:All of them. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And most things that they close are not as popular as some of the users believe they are.

      That doesn't matter. Apart from the most major services, things often get shut down. That means that new google services are not trustworthy, and you have to expect them to go. If that's the case, why bother wasting time on using their infrastructure if you're moderately sure you'll have to end up rebuilding it yourself anyway.

      You can't really force them to keep running losing products,

      No one is forcing google to do anything, but they also cannot force people to use their products. If they have the reputation for new things not being a trustworthy provider (they do have that reputation) then they will not garner new users and will not get the associated revenue.

      They also seme to love upgrades which improve shinyness but do little else (gmail, google docs^Wdrive, google maps, etc). It's their service and they're giving it away for free, but I need a very compelling case to buy any of the professional google services because of my experience of their free services.

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    14. Re:All of them. by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      The thing about "Enterprise" is that it likely involves actual contracts rather than than click through EULAs.

      Oracle managed to sue HP over this very thing because the issue of support was addressed in a contract. Oracle was able to go to court and make HP live up to it's end of the bargain.

      If you are whining about how Google can quickly discontinue some consumer product, you either have no clue how "Enterprise" operates or you are being intentionally forgetful.

      --
      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    15. Re:All of them. by amRadioHed · · Score: 2

      There are reasons why people trust their data with Google more than other companies. The fact that they have projects like dataliberation.org makes me less concerned about the possibility of being locked in to any of their products. People bitch about Google shutting down Reader, but Google makes it easy to export your subscriptions so you can use them in a new product. Also, Google does collect a lot of our data, but they are transparent about it and are pretty good about allowing people to opt out.

      --
      We hope your rules and wisdom choke you / Now we are one in everlasting peace
    16. Re:All of them. by steelfood · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's their service and they're giving it away for free

      Except, they're taking this exact same mentality to the enterprise world too. Only, the enterprise market pays for the services; it's not free. And in the enterprise, there's one and only one thing that matters: stability.

      This mentality does not fly for enterprises. Making significant changes every few months, terminating all support for deprecated services under 2 years (by support, I mean the actual service itself), releasing their "beta" products to a production environment and hoping nobody'd notice the bugs.

      Just remember that IBM is still supporting their mainframes from the 1970's (albeit for a price). Note that Microsoft Office 2012 will run VBA code from Office 97. That's enterprise support. Support for XP will last 13(!) years, and enterprises will still use it for another 10. Enterprises manage change in 10-20 year timeframes, not the .5-2 that Google likes and insists everyone else follow.

      Google's the antithesis of what enterprises want and need. If they didn't practically have a monopoly in certain areas, if they weren't the most reliable vendor by far for certain services, nobody'd touch them with a 10ft pole.

      --
      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
  2. Google is just like Microsoft. by wvmarle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google's and Microsoft's behavious are very similar.

    Google makes heaps of money with their search engine and advertising business; MS makes heaps of money with their Windows and Office products.

    Both are extending into all kinds of related and not so related ventures.

    Only difference there is that MS tends to go for already established business (XBox gaming console, Bing search engine, Zune music player) while Google is searching for new opportunities (networking with balloons and dark fibre; advanced automation with self driving cars, etc).

    the basics are the same: make a lot of money in one product, use those massive profits to extend into other businesses, or simply to have some fun (not all of Google's experiments seem all to serious from a pure commercial pov).

    1. Re:Google is just like Microsoft. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      No, MS considers copyleft to be like a cancer. And many people seem to agree, which is precisely why you see so many businesses who won't touch GPL software with a 10 foot pole.

      Also, Google only cares about open sourcing a product if it can be used to shuttle you to their proprietary products. Android and Chrome are open so that they can shuttle more people to proprietary Google Docs, proprietary Search, proprietary Google+, etc.

      Google wants you to rely on the cloud, which is vastly worse for consumer freedom than Microsoft's traditional focus on local computing.

      You need to get over your biases and open your eyes.

    2. Re:Google is just like Microsoft. by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google's projects are seldom open source. You can't get the source code for most of their services. Many open source projects that they run is developed in the dark behind closed doors, lika Android; technically open source, but not in spirit.

      Google is a very very closed company.

    3. Re:Google is just like Microsoft. by loufoque · · Score: 2

      Many Google engineers contribute to open-source software, but they do so on their free time.
      This gives a false impression that Google actually contributes to open-source.

    4. Re:Google is just like Microsoft. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wait, it's true that Google doesn't give away all of their source code, but like Sun, they build almost everything around open standards. They are geeks that care about doing technology right, and hope to make some money. Microsoft wants to make money at all costs, and harm competitors, and if the technology is good, well, that's lucky.

      Google mail supported IMAP and POP from the outset, when you had to pay for those features in Hotmail.
      Google chat uses standard XMPP, while Microsoft cried about AOL blocking them - but at the same time tried actively to prevent 3rd party MSN clients from working.
      Google releases open source languages and operating systems, while everyone is afraid Mono will die when Microsoft suddenly decides to sue.
      Google supports not only MS Office formats, but OpenOffice formats on all their online office software. Microsoft grudgingly added worse-than-nothing half-assed OpenOffice file format support after bribing their way into standardizing their own format.
      Google typically buys other companies with an eye to expanding their offerings (Writely, Google Earth, etc.) Microsoft often buys other companies with an eye to shutting them down to remove a competitor (Banyan Vines, FoxPro).
      Microsoft often promises to support things, only to cancel them. Not consumer services that are easy to migrate away from by pulling your data out, but hardware support, etc. (Windows NT for PPC, Alpha, Windows Mobile for some processors, etc.)
      Google offers open API support for most of their services, while Microsoft often attempts to make things incompatible (DR-DOS + Windows).

      Most importantly, Microsoft has a history of lying, cheating, and sometimes breaking the law to get their way. They figure it's cheaper to pay fines, or that the legal system is too slow and inept for it to matter. (Purposely trying to Kill Netscape, making incompatible Java, etc.)

      Microsoft also seems to go out of their way to not only make their stuff work well together (which is to be expected), but to also make it not work with anything else. There is no SQL server for Unix, Office for Mac is an exception, and not even that compatible. SharePoint only properly works on IE, .NET is supposedly cross-platform, but only supported on Windows, etc., etc. Microsoft also removed features they have already developed from entry level software to force you to buy the more expensive ones (which happens other places as well) - sometimes to silly levels. Versions of Windows that can only run 3 programs, limiting TCP/IP connections on consumer windows, no remote desktop or ability to install language packs on Windows 7 Home. The services that Google charges you for actually consume more of their resources, and therefore cost them more money.

      Clearly MS feels much more strongly about wring every cent they can out of you than they do about advancing the state of the art or making the world a better place. Google, on the other hand, does things like telling you that results have been filtered due to legal requirements, and suggests you protest it.

      Google takes the risk to invest in risky projects, and so it makes sense that they will cancel some of them. For example, I was peeved that they stopped supporting the iPhoto to Picasa Web uploader, but I can understand it. Apple broke the thing with every new iPhoto release. People would download it and wonder why it didn't work. Google also removed the public free translation API because people were using it in their very expensive commercial translation products. The only request I think that is reasonable to make is that if they are going to cancel something they: a. Do it with sufficient advance warning, and b. allow you to get your data out. They seem to have been very good at both things so far.

  3. payouts come later by flowerp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look at what they did with Android. Seemed like a crazy project at first, but now they're essentially owning the market for mobile operating systems.

    So let them do their unfocused things, because some of them will pay out big later.

    --
    --- Eat my sig.
    1. Re:payouts come later by rasmusbr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or look at Amazon doing other things than selling books.

      You don't want to put all your eggs in one or two baskets when you're operating in an industry where most everything changes completely in a decade. In fact, it might make sense from a risk perspective to enter into industries with slower rate of innovation and change like automotive, energy, etc.

    2. Re:payouts come later by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      Amazon is a company that relies on two core businesses, and doesn't seem to expand much beyond that.

      The first is being an online retailer. Started with books, added a host of other products - yet essentially it's still the same kind of business. Whether you sell books or CDs or furniture or houshold electronics or whatever doesn't matter very much - the products look different but the process is the same.

      The second is their cloud computing business. They have numerous offerings there, from dedicated servers to computing power for hire to various cloud storage services - however in essence it is the same kind of business, and their various offerings often rely on one another. And of course their cloud computing business is a great support for the online retail business, which also needs a lot of computing power and networking.

      Outside those two businesses, I don't know what Amazon is doing. They seem to be pretty much limited to those two pillars.

    3. Re:payouts come later by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How is that modded insightful?

      I don't think anyone with a hint of awareness thought that Android sounded like a crazy project when they announced it. I think everyone who had a clue recognized it as a bold move into a new market that would make a big difference. And, lo and behold, it was.

      Also, quite frankly, I find it amusing when people describe Android as "owning the market for mobile operating systems" because it's a narrowly defined definition of "owning the market".

      Are they owning marketshare for the larger mobile market? Yes.

      Smartphones (no, not feature phones disguised as smartphones - I'm talking actual smartphones)? That's debatable and hard to accurately measure (since so many Android manufacturers sell "smartphones" that are really feature phones running a smartphone OS). Entirely likely this one is pretty much a draw.

      Tablets? Not at all. Getting crushed.

      Are they owning the market dollars for the mobile market? Nope. That's iOS's crown. And, for many, this is what "owning the market" might mean which makes your claim incorrect.

      The mobile market is actually quite complex with various facets and layers and "owning the market" is a claim that no operating system (well, neither Android nor iOS - the others don't matter any more) can make. You have to be much more specific in what you're talking about before you can say anything is being owned. Otherwise it's simply too vague a claim to be taken seriously.

      But, back to the original point - I think the only people who thought Google was crazy for creating Android were blog writers looking to generate page views and controversy. Anyone with a clue saw it as anything but crazy.

    4. Re:payouts come later by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The cloud computing business is purely a side business. The only reason they are in it at all is to monetize their infrastructure needs. Ever wonder why in the early years of EC2 is always slowed down at Christmas time? The infrastructure they were renting out was the excess capacity they need to add every Christmas season to meet demand. They started renting it out and then Christmas time came and they needed it all back, leaving EC2 customers in the lurch. They eventually grew it to the point where it is able to survive without affecting customers, but it is still simply renting excess capacity they don't need. I doubt it could survive without the retail sales business.

    5. Re:payouts come later by asavage · · Score: 2

      Tablets? Not at all. Getting crushed.

      They might be in the US but in 2013Q1 Android was on 56% of global tablet sales

  4. Discontinue Unsuccessful Products by tuppe666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except closing down projects

    I have a bookshelf behind me with a whole host of dead languages, and products from Adobe and Microsoft that have been discontinued. Unsuccessful (and sometimes successful for strategic reasons) software will be discontinues, companies are trying to make money.

    FYI Googles Enterprise Apps doesn't get Ads...maybe you are thinking of Windows 8.

    1. Re:Discontinue Unsuccessful Products by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well if you built your app with Visual Basic 6 then you're still supported. It has been discontinued, won't get new features. But it works, and will work for a while so that you have enough time to migrate to something newer such as Visual Basic .NET.

    2. Re:Discontinue Unsuccessful Products by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well if you built your app with Visual Basic 6 then you're still supported. It has been discontinued, won't get new features.

      But if you built your app around Plays for Sure then you're out of luck.

    3. Re:Discontinue Unsuccessful Products by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2

      If you call "that is a known bug" support, then you are right. Basic controls like radio buttons are not working on Windows XP. And they won't fix it.

      --
      Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
  5. Google is just like Microsoft in your dreams. by tuppe666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google's and Microsoft's behavious are very similar.

    Not even close. Microsoft is the same lumbering bullying monopolist it always was(although now looking stupid in todays mobile market), and Google acts like fresh young startup(although now with lots of baggage).

    Other than them both being mega corporations, they have very little in common. This could be a whole topic in itself.

    1. Re:Google is just like Microsoft in your dreams. by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2

      Err, no. Microsoft is a megacorp that just tries to take over anything IT-related. Google is a megacorp that tries to take over anything IT-related. Not much of a difference.

      --
      Nae king! Nae laird! Nae yurrupiean pressedent! We willna be fooled again!
  6. Re:this is literally the most idiotic bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, utter crap.

    Google are acting more like venture capital, trying many things in the hope one in ten might strike it really big. Whoever wrote this is an idiot.

  7. Good someone's spending money on innovation by monzie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Disclaimer: Not an MBA, never attended even a Biz 101. Just your average geek

    I think we are talking about two distinct things here:

    1. A company which makes a lot of money selling ads on the 'standard' web and the mobile web

    2. A company that is trying to carve a space in the 'enterprise' space ( Google apps, docs etc )

    3. A company that is spending a lot of money on innovation - most of which looks to help the general public ( Specifically mean their attempts at networking ) and some which look like sci-fi projects ( Google glass)

    #1 - It's how they earn their $$ and I ( like most of you ) use their search engine and email offerings. A lot of us use their mobile operating system as well - and we take for granted that it keeps our contacts and calendars and other stuff in sync. ( side note: not many , especially the Apple fanbois - appreciate how good google email/calendar/contacts sync is )

    #2 My previous and current employer use Google Apps. My previous company migrated from Domino/Notes (gasp!) to Google Apps and my current company moved from Exchange/Sharepoint/Outlook to Google Apps. As an end user it made my life much better. However, I am sure the CIO who took the decision for the move had evaluated other factors as well ( Cost of migration, cost of maintaing , integration with exisiting directory services etc )

    #3 - Now let's assume they make a ton of money with #1 and #2 ( in reality they're making money primarily with #1, but bear with me) and they spend their money on Gigabit Ethernet and self driving cars. What's so wrong with that? How does spending money on Gigabit ethernet make their Google Apps or Google Search team any smarter/dumber? Answer: It doesn't.

    I do not work for Google and Google doesn't need my defence.

    I just think this article and post is pointless. This is a question a shareholder may ask. As an end user I"m happy with their offerings for personal and professional work and even they work on a new variant of the NCC-1701* - It wouldn't matter to me or to my CIO as long as what they offer us is better than the competition. As of now, they are.

    * = If you do not know what NCC-1701 (and it's variants are) Google it (pun intended) before you reply

    1. Re:Good someone's spending money on innovation by wvmarle · · Score: 2

      Agreed, I can't say I have the feeling they lost their focus. When it comes to their core products (Search, Maps) they're still miles ahead of the competition. And for the rest they offer a very decent offering (Gmail, Docs, Google+, Android, etc). Not much better or worse than the competition there, they still manage to stay at the top.

      Can't say that of Microsoft - falling behind with Windows (they still have the critical mass though), IE caught napping by FF and Chrome, totally lost the mobile market, and the rest of their products are generally faltering and also-runs at best. Office is arguably the best in it's league but the competition is catching up quickly, with "more than good enough for the home user" type products. Not much room for innovation in Office too.

  8. We should count ourselves lucky by joh · · Score: 2

    If Google REALLY would try to do what it could do in some fields instead of rather helplessly fumbling around often enough, it could very soon get into a dominating position that wouldn't be good for anyone.

    I think people underestimate the extremely central point in which Google has comfortably positioned itself. We should be happy about every lackluster move Google does. And of course it is reigned in by being an advertisement business which means that it doesn't really care about anything that isn't connected to selling more ads. This explains a lot of the half-heartedness it displays in many things. It's just not worth the effort to destroy other businesses if you can't make money out of it.

  9. Google has a problem. by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Google exists primarily as a playground for two (actually much, much more, now) geeks. They want to do things like build driverless cars and have robot cats and sharks with frickin' laser beams.

    Unfortunately, Google accidentally became too successful, and would have needed to start filing SEC disclosures even if they hadn't gone public. So hey, free money.

    Now, Google has a problem, not unlike that of John Rigas or Dennis Kozlowski (minus the criminal aspect of it, of course) - Brin and Page both see Google as their private playground, but have to pretend they give the least damn about their shareholders... Thus, the whole reason they brought on Eric Schmidt early on, to do all that boring BS business-stuff while they play with online weather balloons.

    But make no mistake, evil or no, Google exists as a high-tech playground, not a serious business. The fact that they make oodles of money should serve as a role-model to other companies who haven't come to grips with the fact that "knowledge" workers do their best when not forced to sit in a 6x6 box for exactly eight hours a day using only "approved" apps and hardware.

    1. Re:Google has a problem. by su5so10 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In the OLD days (e.g. up through the early 1990s), MOST successful tech companies had research labs doing far out things. AT&T, Xerox, DEC, IBM... I think the fact that today, few companies have such a research arm, is the real problem.

  10. Irrelevant by Tridus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only relevant things about Google's enterprise performance should be how seriously they treat those offerings. That they're playing around with driverless cars on the side really doesn't matter in the slightest.

    If it does, then obviously people should be equally concerned that Microsoft is more focused on trying to sell phones and Xboxes than it is on what their enterprise customers are actually using (since they're sure as hell not using Windows 8).

    --
    -- "So they told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated." - Bill Gates
  11. Google should put more effort into *quality* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    enterprise products, and services.

    Google Apps hardly work well enough for a hobbyist, let alone an enterprise. There are serious bugs that have existed for years, Google chooses to ignore them. Google does offer any real support.

    And yes, Google's habit of constantly closing down products, and services, even those which are successful, does not sit well with enterprise customers.

    Google makes about 97% of it's revenue on advertising. Everything else is just some silly little back-burner project that Google employees are supposed to do in their spare time.

    Seems to me that is Google is going to compete with a juggernaut, like Microsoft, Google needs to take it's products, and services, seriously.

  12. imagine this article from a few decades ago... by Lluc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article summary from a few decades ago:

    Bell Labs' Crazy Lack of Focus -- Is it Serous about Telephones?
    From semiconductors, to photovoltaics, to computer operatings systems, Bell Labs has wanders aimlessly from topic to topic. How will these ever apply to the copper lines strung across the world to carry our telephone conversations?? Doesn't Bell Labs know that it should only invest in ideas and technology that can pay off within 3 years?

  13. Replace MSWord by lfp98 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Their strategy with GoogleDocs/GoogleDrive is truly incomprehensible. Seven years after its launch, it is still pathetically primitive, lacks even the most essential functions like detailed formatting of figures and legends. DOS WordPerfect was more sophisticated. MS-Word is a terrible program, still crash-prone, expensive, frustrating and distracting. It cries out for a replacement, even though almost every enterprise and public sector institution is dependent on it. Google engineers can make a self-driving car, you'd think they could program a decent word processor in an afternoon. It's clear they're not even trying. Why??

    1. Re:Replace MSWord by swillden · · Score: 2

      Because Google itself doesn't have to use Google Docs. That's why. It's for *users*.

      Google makes very heavy use of Google Docs. It's the format for internal documentation, presentations, spreadsheets, etc. I've been at Google for over two years and never seen anything done in LibreOffice, much less MS Office.

      --
      Note to ACs: I usually delete AC replies without reading them. If you want to talk to me, log in.
  14. Re:For a company that knows nearly everything? by Sarten-X · · Score: 2

    Why the hell is this not +5?

    With some heavily rose-tinted glasses, Google's business plan is blatently obvious. It intends to be Umbrella Corporation. Every facet of our lives will be working with or for Google. We wake up to our Android phone's alarm clock, read the Google-supplied news feed, ride our Google-powered autonomous car to work from our Google-connected rural home, use Google Apps to do our jobs, then go out in the evenings to a nice park (whose health is monitored and managed by Google) to relax and communicate with our friends via Google's social networks. For traditional entertainment, Google's happy to provide information, buy tickets, or give directions. At the end of the day, our Google cars pick us up and take us home.

    Google's motto is "Don't be evil". This doesn't necessarily apply to every day-to-day action, but rather to the overall behavior of the world-dominating mega-corporation - Umbrella was evil. Google doesn't want to be. They aren't out to build superweapons or exterminate the world's pests. They aren't really out to make money (though that is still a secondary goal). Google just aims to be helpful to every bit of daily life, and that gets them a small slice of every transaction.

    This is the long-awaited future we've been reading about in sci-fi. The all-encompassing network knows what we want, and provides. The network can invade everyone's privacy, but by and large it doesn't really care about any individual. It can monitor its own health, and understand the sentiment of its users. All that this nearly-sentient network cares about is to maximize certain metrics - possibly even "happiness" and "personal freedom". As the network takes over people's lives, the need for governments (and government-supported fighting) declines, and after a few centuries of working out personal disputes, general peace will finally reign... with a familiar four-color logo.

    I exaggerate Google's scope for entertainment, but not by much. Once upon a time, Microsoft's plan was "a computer on every desk and in every home", and Google's just extending that to match modern capabilities. We can have a computer on every pedestrian, in every car, and at the head of every industry. Microsoft tried to push itself into markets, and generally succeeded, but never seems to be the best in anything. Google, on the other hand, tries to make something that's the best, and hopes it will take up a market eventually. They're playing the very long game.

    That's why Google kills off so many projects. If they don't actually work out to be the best, they'll just stagnate the market, and we'll be stuck with more inconvenient technology for longer. If a project isn't particularly profitable, and doesn't fit Google's ostensibly-benevolent goal, why keep it?

    Of course, this is just the plan. It seems to be going well for now, under the direction of decent leaders who are okay with consuming profits for the perceived "greater good". Future profit-oriented leadership might turn "don't be evil" into "don't give away something for nothing". Intermediate measures (like complying with governments) could fetter some projects. A particular project could turn innocent civilians into zombies... The plan could take a turn for the worse, and we as a society would be royally screwed. Google may indeed be aiming to be a world-domineering overlord, but as long as it's a benevolent overlord, I'm okay with that.

    As an aside, I swear I'm not a Google shill. I'm just focusing on the optimistic side in this post, because it's the side that seems to make the most sense to me.

    --
    You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.