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Are Booth Babes Going Away? (Video)

Michael Steinhart, Editor in Chief of The Enterprise Cloud Site, went to this year's New York Cloud Expo, and saw only one booth with beguiling, scantily-dressed females trying to attract people to their employers' display. But Michael says one booth with babes was one more than last year, when the same show had no booth babes at all. So we wondered: Are booth babes going away? And if they are, is it because of political consciousness or tight budgets? Since Michael has put more time than we have into thinking about these questions, we fired up our webcam and had a little conversation with him about the future of booth babes at IT conferences and trade shows.

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  1. Babes may not be what's wanted... by cianduffy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Based on the IT industry here (Ireland) at least, there's been a huge increase in the number of gay men in IT, or out gay men at least. Not much use in having a booth babe if the guy buying the product doesn't like boobs.

    1. Re:Babes may not be what's wanted... by Applekid · · Score: 2

      Based on the IT industry here (Ireland) at least, there's been a huge increase in the number of gay men in IT, or out gay men at least. Not much use in having a booth babe if the guy buying the product doesn't like boobs.

      I've never met a gay man that didn't like boobs. He may not want to have sex with the person they're attached to, but I wouldn't necessarily call that a dislike.

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    2. Re:Babes may not be what's wanted... by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      15% of 180 lbs. = 25 lbs. that's one heavy schlong.

  2. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, the only people who really give two craps about booth babes are a) hypersensitive gender warriors and b) tech writers on a slow news day.

    1. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't forget c) Feminists coming fresh out of college, thinking that they're the first person to ever bring the issue up.

    2. Re:Who cares? by Spritzer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't forget c) Feminists coming fresh out of college, thinking that they're the first person to ever bring the issue up.

      See a

    3. Re:Who cares? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Next thing you know, you won't be able to get all the good seats in the front of the bus without the negroes getting all uppity about it. Check your privilege.

      Does this phrase ever work? All it ever seems to do is turn a debate personal.

    4. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      well the people complaining about them aren't into the tech or what the booths are about anyways

      Bullshit. I complain about them. You can't really be more into tech than I am -- it's my career. I, for one, am disgusted by the sexism prevalent in my field. And I can only imagine how much worse it'd be if I was female.

      - or what the show is about. but with games, if you have babes and hunks _in_ the games why not at the booth.

      Why not remove the grotesque sexist pandering from both the games and the booths?

      so people who had nothing to say about the shows just degenerated to writing about boobs because boobs sell.

      HURR HURR FEMINISM IS JUST ATTENTION SEEKING

      (snip of giant rant about how it's only logical to hire boothbabes if you're hiring anybody at all)

      You are really terrible.

    5. Re:Who cares? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the proponents of the phrase are to be believed, it's supposed to highlight that the disagreement in question contains implicit assumptions that invalidate it.

      All it actually does is give an obvious point of disagreement that feels intensely personal, and, in the end, drags down the debate.

    6. Re:Who cares? by DrGamez · · Score: 2

      I care because having shit sold to me by the way of sex-appeal just means you think of me like an idiot who is unable to not think with my dick for a few hours at a time. I'd rather not do business with a company that thinks I'm unable to turn off the lizard brain for a bit.

    7. Re:Who cares? by goose-incarnated · · Score: 2

      well the people complaining about them aren't into the tech or what the booths are about anyways

      Bullshit. I complain about them. You can't really be more into tech than I am -- it's my career. I, for one, am disgusted by the sexism prevalent in my field. And I can only imagine how much worse it'd be if I was female.

      Perhaps your mating strategy of grovelling before the collective body of women on the planet in a public and humiliating manner works for you - I certainly don't know how, but lets say it does ... the ugly fact is that dominant and powerful men are the most desirable to the majority of women. Grovelers like yourself are attractive to only a very small minority. A few facts you perhaps aren't aware of:

      1. You aren't disgusted - you're trying to impress women, and since you don't have any power or influence, you're try to be the kind of guy they say they want (who they won't stay with anyway - when they get the kind of guy they say they want they realise they don't find that kind attractive at all.)

      You practically are already female; you just don't have the balls to snip your balls.

      (And no, I don't want to hear your story about some women who happens to be an outlier - the majority (two sigmas within median) of men and women fit the profiles I typed above. Besides, who cares what the outliers want in a partner as long as they get it?)

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  3. I'm confused. by BenFenner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This year the expo had more booth babes than last year, which raises the question "Are Booth Babes going away?".

    Say what now?

  4. really, does anyone care? by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They will probably be a fixture at car shows for all time, and in Korean gadget reveals, but they seem so out of place at a software conference.

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    1. Re:really, does anyone care? by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not sure I agree. There's always room for booth babes.

      ...ok did I say that out loud? Anyway, the market will decide. If booths with a couple of local models on deck do better business than booths without, they'd be crazy not to do it. On the other hand, if booth babes are neutral or a liability, they'll (eventually) disappear.

      The last trade show I worked, (which was some time ago) the large company with whom I was employed at the time hired two local talent (show was in las vegas) to accompany us during the show. They didn't dress overly provocatively (safari getup, in keeping with the booth theme, no excessive cleavage or leg showing) and they did a good job managing the crowd, making sure we weren't overwhelmed, and taking prospective customer information. Don't get me wrong, they were drop dead gorgeous, but they also knew what they were doing and helped out a lot. "Booth Babe" is a somewhat disparaging term for what can be a difficult job. It's not all about standing in the aisle and doing the "vanna wave" towards the booth.

      During a rare slow moment I got to talk to one of the girls, and asked her if she was an employee of our company. (There being a group in the company tasked with handling logistics for these shows, and I at first thought she might be with that group.) She looked shocked, and said no, she was from a local agency, and makes most of her living working booths at trade shows. (Which explains why she was good at it.)

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    2. Re:really, does anyone care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I had to work at some conferences years ago. When it wasn't busy those girls took care of us, getting us hydrated and something to eat. This is rather important since you will be standing for 10-14 hours on such a day, and talking will also get you dehydrated rather quickly, and you forget to drink and eat.

      Even more important one of the girls thought me how to stand up, so that your legs and feet tolerate standing for such a long time. Most people have their weight back, straight above their heels and balance on them, while you should have your weight distributed equally over your whole foot.

  5. Not really sexist, just good psychology by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even women are more likely to want to talk to a well-dressed, attractive woman than the pushy marketdroid or worse, the obese engineer wearing a t-shirt and ripped jeans who smells like he hasn't bathed in a week. It's not just about appearance; it's also about appearance. Know what I mean?

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  6. I resent them by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I resent that some business is attempting to grab me by the balls rather than by my rational self.

  7. One less reason to go to Expos by manoweb · · Score: 3

    Many times those events are not even that informative!

    1. Re:One less reason to go to Expos by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously. The better question is, "Are pointless, expensive marketing booth conventions which provide middle management a convenient excuse to get shitfaced and hook up out of town going away?"

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  8. No. They just dress more conservatively. by HockeyPuck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was at a recent tech conference and the booth babes were not the ones from Comdex of yesteryear in bikinis. They were hired women who were very attractive but were wearing acceptable clothing. Mostly business casual, slacks and a button down blouse.

    IT folks they were not, pretty faces yes. As someone has to scan your badge or hand out a trinket.

    1. Re:No. They just dress more conservatively. by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's the question. If you meet one of these women in the elevator and happen to remember which booth she was working, would you feel confident that you could ask her a question about that company/product and get an informative answer? If yes, they're not booth babes, they're marketing people who happen to be attractive (which certainly helps their career, don't get me wrong). The problem isn't attractive women manning the booths, the problem is when the women are there solely to be attractive (in a very literal sense).

  9. It's About Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The whole presence of scantily-clad women as a way of attracting attention to your booth assumes that the people whose attention you want to attract are heterosexual males who are inclined to pay attention to your exhibit because there's a scantily-clad woman there. It implicitly assumes that you're not trying to get the interest of/don't care about the opinions of, among others: women, homosexual men, the devoutly religious, etc. In the same way that an ad campaign that includes a of, say, racist caricatures of Asians effectively writes off the Asian population as potential customers (at the very least), this sort of thing writes off whole groups of people who are, you know, actually present in the tech industry. Funny how an industry that supposedly prides itself on evaluating results and actual ability so often tacitly assumes that it is the exclusive domain of straight, white males. It's almost as if cluelessly ignoring the reality of privilege, racism, sexism, and heteronormativity leads to cluelessly privileged, racist, sexist, heteronormative behavior.

  10. Re:Not anymore, possible resurgence thanks to Cona by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    DO NOT clicky on the linky unless you get your kicks seeing Conan 'O Brian in fishnets and a really tight package. Jesus. Christ. Shit. My eyes.

  11. Marketing by Karmashock · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Booth babes are pretty.

    Pretty is attractive.

    Attractive is good marketing.

    Its not just about sex. Its about hiring some attractive people to represent your company. Because your engineers are probably unshaved smelly cave dwellers that probably don't make a good impression at conventions. So how do you make your engineer or software developer seem credible? Put a 21 year old aspiring model next to him that smiles and makes eyes at everyone that gets near the booth.

    Is it dumb? No more dumb then the people buying your products. Which isn't an insult against them... people are just like that. Get over it. We're not robots. We're semi intelligent social opportunistic primates. And even women like having attractive women around.

    Open a women's magazine. What do you see? Is it lots of half naked men? Nope... half naked women.

    As to getting the attention of gay men... All respect, but they're by definition a minority. Were they not the species itself would be in some trouble. So while it might make some sense to reach out to any demographic, the reality is that its probably a marginal issue at best.

    All of that said, possibly there is something to be said for not having such aggressive marketing at conventions. Rather, put your unshaved cave dweller out there sans smiling boobs... and just see what happens.

    It will either be fine or it won't. And we'll learn something either way.

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    1. Re:Marketing by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With respect, I'm no feminist, but the question here isn't whether sex is effective at selling. It certainly is. The question is the residual effects of using women's bodies in that way. Does it contribute to certain attitudes that could be negative for women?

      I'm not really going to go farther down that path, because again, I begin rolling my eyes as some of the more insane feminist bullshit out there, but like any good thing, I wonder if using sex in that manner can have negative consequences, if done outside of moderation.

    2. Re:Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Feminism is more varied than the insane bullshit. If you're asking these questions, well, you might just be a feminist. You know, moderately.

    3. Re:Marketing by Raenex · · Score: 2

      As a woman, it's friday at down here and for work today I am wearing dark jeans, high top sneakers, a Dr Who T-shirt, I had short (though coloured) hair and am wearing no make up. I don't consider myself a tom boy and get flirted with plenty. I'm also on the cuddly side as far as size goes.

      And you're also reading and commenting on Slashdot. In other words, you're not the typical woman.

    4. Re:Marketing by Karmashock · · Score: 2

      We're human beings. We're going to use sex to sell. We've been doing it for tens of thousands of years. Best get over that.

      Think only women's bodies are used? Men's bodies are used as well. And not just men's bodies but the masculine mystique. The whole tough guy, macho man... thing. And do you see men complain about that even though its easily as exploitive of male psychology as female swimsuit issue? No.

      Because men understand that's just reality. Women like it. And men therefore want to be it. It gains them status in our primate monkey society and since we're social creatures we like status.

      This might sound sexist... but a price women must pay for equality with men is not playing the victim all the time.

      Sitting at the big boy table means you don't cry and you don't whine. You take what is yours and deal with what you cannot change without getting dramatic about it.

      You will be sexualized. We do see you as sexual objects. Hey, its how my ape brain sees you. I could for the sake of political correctness pretend otherwise which is all any man does that claims otherwise. But in the back of his mind the ape will maintain that judgment and he really doesn't give an f'ing damn what anyone else thinks about that. Its evolution baby. Deal with it.

      All you will accomplish by demanding the impossible will be to get people to lie to you skillfully and wrap you in a fantasy.

      Why do that to yourself? Accept what is going to happen and make the best of it.

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  12. incremental effect and biology by RichMan · · Score: 2

    Men are men. Our attention is drawn to curves. We can act respectful, but can't deny biology.

    "But Michael says one booth with babes was one more than last year"

    If everyone has booth babes then the incremental effect of one company adding booth babes is about ZERO. You can be at booth A and still see B, C, D, E ....
    If no one has booth babes then the incremental effect of one company adding booth babes is significant.

  13. Booth babes don't work well on straight geeks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most geeks learned early on that babes aren't interested. The more attractive a female was, the more likely she was to snub any geeks that approached.

    So, geeks associate hotness with unattainability (and, in some cases cruelty), and as such their feminine wiles don't have the same effect as they might on a grown-up football player.

    Geeks respond better to fellow geeks with a common cultural background and a solid technical understanding of whatever is being advertised.

    The market is simply adjusting to what actually works for this demographic.

    1. Re:Booth babes don't work well on straight geeks. by tnk1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The thing is, booth babes aren't there for geeks, they're there for non-geek distributors who are salesmen that probably had a much better relationship with hot girls in school.

      That point aside, I think you underestimate how male geeks can be, despite the possibly bad experiences they have had with attractive women. Put enough boobs in the room and even the bitterest of male, heterosexual geeks is going to notice a lot more than they might even let on.

      Of course, the world is nothing like it used to be. Geeks used to be outcasts, and now attractive girls whose greatest technological achievement is working their Twitter account and watching Anime regularly call themselves "nerds". You can still be an outcast as a geek, but being a geek no longer makes you an outcast by definition.

    2. Re:Booth babes don't work well on straight geeks. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So, geeks associate hotness with unattainability

      As a geek, I've always associated hotness (which is almost always partly synthetic) with misplaced priorities.

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    3. Re:Booth babes don't work well on straight geeks. by Richard+M+Stalman · · Score: 4, Funny

      I disagree. My sex life - such that it is - revolved entirely around females I meet at conferences and shows. I have certain expectations in that I can not actually have genital-on-genital sex, and instead require stimulation via mammary-genital contact, thus I require large breasted females.

    4. Re:Booth babes don't work well on straight geeks. by Hatta · · Score: 3, Informative

      As a geek, I've always associated properly placed priorities with hotness. Beauty pagent contestants? Not hot at all. Jeri Ellsworth, Amy Mainzer, or Bettany Hughes, now that's hot.

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    5. Re:Booth babes don't work well on straight geeks. by icebraining · · Score: 2

      Nobody actually wants to outlaw them, though. If tech conferences don't have them anymore, it was their choice (even if possibly influenced by criticism).

  14. Unprofessional by Scutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like looking at booth babes as much as the next guy, but c'mon. It's just unprofessional. And frankly, I don't want to talk to a hired salesmodel at an IT conference, either. I want to talk to a technical person who knows the freaking product and can answer detailed technical questions about it. If I wanted a brochure, I'd go to the website. It's a waste of my time and your money to have anyone in your booth that doesn't know the product inside and out.

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    1. Re:Unprofessional by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Informative

      The marketing droids never know any more then the hotties. I fact, because the marketing droids lie and the booth babes just smile, the booth babes are better sources for true information.

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  15. Re:Who wants booth babes, I want Booth studs :3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    One man's treasure is another man's junk,

    And conversely, one man's junk is another man's treasure.

    Just ask the gays.

  16. The essential problem is this: by tekrat · · Score: 2

    #1) Booth babes are offensive to the larger population of women, even in the tech industry, there are more and more women present compared to say... the 1990's where it was almost 100% male dominated. In fact, there was a recent story about a female journalist harassed at E3 because it was just assumed by some that any woman at a gaming convention must be 'meat'.

    #2) They are as clueless as their looks would lead you to believe. I remember being at a Motorcycle convention, and while that was once a male dominated event, the new market for motorcycles is now women -- but I digress... at the "Vespa" booth (Vespa, of all places, scooters appeal to women!), we had a question about some seriously radical Vespa merchandise (I think I was a cool looking leather bag, or a jacket), and I go to ask what I thought was a saleswoman, but she didn't know anything about what it was or how to buy it, even though she was dressed in Vespa branded attire. Point is; I was interested; but they lost a sale because the lady was apparently hired as decoration, but wasn't trained to even point me to a real salesperson!

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  17. Re:Not anymore, possible resurgence thanks to Cona by yurtinus · · Score: 2

    Oh now I *have* to click it!

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  18. Re:WTF is this shit? by Algae_94 · · Score: 2

    Holy shit! I hadn't even started the video until reading your comment, but I am shocked and appalled that there is a background of cats behind this douche in the video. I didn't watch the whole thing, but skipped through enough to see that there were no booth babes in the video! Why would I want to watch this video about booth babes, when there are none in the video?

  19. Re:Who wants booth babes, I want Booth studs :3 by durrr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I read an anecdotal story about a girl that used to be hired as a booth babe and got neat money from it. Used to, because the feminazis destroyed her job opporuntities.

    What happened with womens rights really, It's a voluntary job after all and it apparently pays well?

  20. Re:Who wants booth babes, I want Booth studs :3 by Pseudonym · · Score: 3, Funny

    Won't someone please think of the poor out-of-work blackface minstrels?

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  21. Re:Who wants booth babes, I want Booth studs :3 by DexterIsADog · · Score: 3, Funny

    "...the feminazis..."

    Rush, is that you?

  22. Feminism! by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Funny

    Feminism: letting women be whatever they want to be...unless it contravenes our image of what they should be, then we require that they conform with our idea of what's "right".

    I'm sure they're feeling empowered already!

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