Unix Guru Evi Nemeth Missing, Feared Lost At Sea

14erCleaner writes "Retired Colorado professor Evi Nemeth has been missing between New Zealand and Australia since June 4, along with six others on their racing yacht. Nemeth, 73, is known as the primary author of the definitive Unix systems administration guide and for other works on Unix and Linux system administration and cryptography."

Comments

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is

[Intrepid imaginaut]

She, and show some respect. Honestly I hope I'm active enough at 73 to go cruising around the world in my yacht.

I just hope

[maroberts]

I'll have a yacht.

Anyway personally speaking I'd rather go out with a smile and a laugh than sobbing hordes.

Re:I just hope

[D'Sphitz]

Anyway personally speaking I'd rather go out with a smile and a laugh than sobbing hordes.

I'm not an expert, but I guess it's plausible that extreme dehydration while baking in the sun could cause your skin to tighten, receding your lips and exposing your teeth. That's the only scenario I can imagine where someone who is lost at sea would die smiling and laughing.

Re:I just hope

[MichaelSmith]

It is possible to die really fast when crossing the ditch.

Re:Rawr

[rubycodez]

wow, everyone assumes she is a dude because only guys would know how to write Unix and Linux sysadmin books? She also held PHD in mathematics and worked in projects to bring the internet to developing countries.

Now she's bringing the internet...

[maroberts]

..... to the fithes!

Especially when

[maroberts]

she finds out I used to write marine GPS software...

find /ocean *evi*

[Anonymous Coward]

find /ocean -name *evi*

Re:find /ocean *evi*

[Anonymous Coward]

You'd want to use '*evi*' (with the ticks) to prevent the shell from doing the globbing already.

Re:find /ocean *evi*

[phantomfive]

It'll take a long time running. Too bad the ocean isn't indexed.

Re:find /ocean *evi*

[flex941]

Could be quick too - if the /ocean is already cached.

Re:find /ocean *evi*

[phantomfive]

It's really big. I don't think it'll fit into RAM......

Re:find /ocean *evi*

[flex941]

Don't worry, I have more than 640K.

Tragedy

[Anonymous Coward]

That really sucks.
I'm currently doing Systems Administration in Antarctica. I got my first professional network administration job in Boulder, around the time that the "Yellow book" came out (2nd Ed. of the "UNIX Systems Administration Handbook," Nemeth, Snyder, Hein, et al.). The book got me boostrapped for work in NeXT and SunOS administration. I've been to six continents, and have worked in IT for 20+ years. I owe a lot of my life's earnings and experiences to what I learned in Nemeth's texts.
Godspeed, Evi.

Re:Tragedy

[Mike Frett]

Antarctica?!? Jeepers H Snowballs...guess you don't have to worry about the Servers overheating eh. Interestingly enough, Antarctica has about 5,000 people living there. Yeah it's a tragedy, I'd like to say that I hope they are found; but after all this time I fear the worst.

Re:Tragedy

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, at least next year's students don't need to worry about having to buy new versions of the college textbook . . .

What, too soon?

Re:Tragedy

[amicusNYCL]

They even have their own disc golf course.

Re:Tragedy

[Fzz]

Evi: desperately hoping you're in a life raft somewhere and will get to laugh your laugh at some of the kids posting here today. A great big IETF hug to you, wherever you are.

Lost

[lorinc]

When working on Unix systems, it is easy to get lost at C. Let's hope she'll hack her way to the coast.

Re:Lost

[c0lo]

When working on Unix systems, it is easy to get lost at C.

Casts in C are indeed dangerous. Keeping my fingers crossed.

She thought it was a 3-hour tour

[Spy Handler]

a 3-hour tour

Re:Alternate Explanation

[Anonymous Coward]

foreshadowing?

What's really eerie is the coffin marked 'more' right above her name.

Re:Rawr

[Victor_0x53h]

I thought a beard was required, that's how misinformed I am!

Woosh

[maroberts]

Someone not aware of Gilligans Island?

Re:Woosh

[neminem]

Any references to that theme song just get Stairway to Heaven stuck my head. It's much better that way.

Re:Rawr

[K. S. Kyosuke]

wow, everyone assumes she is a dude because only guys would know how to write Unix and Linux sysadmin books?

No, it's a reasonable assumption given the actual Unix writer demographics and given the somewhat non-descript first name. Or is it that whenever you hear the word "nurse", you immediately and involuntarily imagine a guy in 50% of the cases because you're perfectly gender-balanced and oh-so-detached from reality?

Re:Alternate Explanation

[K. S. Kyosuke]

All kidding aside, I hope for the best, and if the worst be the case, I hope she went smiling.

She's laughing at us while sipping coffee with Jim Gray on some remote island.

Re:Rawr

[rubycodez]

It's really another form of Eva or Eve.

Re:Rawr

[K. S. Kyosuke]

That's two unfair stereotypes. Some women have beards.

No problem. Ancient Egyptian queens solved this by means of a strap-on.

Re:Rawr

[Farmer Tim]

And they were familiar with eunuchs commands.

Another one?

[DoofusOfDeath]

So her and Jim Gray?

WTF, Computer Science?

Re:Another one?

[freeze128]

Davy Jones needs admins....

Re:Another one?

[zdzichu]

I though he was busy with hacking Fedora kernels.

RTFM

[westlake]

No, it's a reasonable assumption given the actual Unix writer demographics and given the somewhat non-descript first name.

But absolute proof that a poster hasn't clicked on any of the links in the story --- all three of which describe Evi as female and the Wikipedia bio including a photograph.

Re:RTFM

[K. S. Kyosuke]

But absolute proof that a poster hasn't clicked on any of the links in the story --- all three of which escribe Evi as female and the Wikipedia bio including a photograph.

Around here, that's less heinous than not having Evi's book on a cherished spot in your library.

Re:RTFM

[Antique Geekmeister]

I'd read her book. My old copy is in my workplace library. And I'd not even thought about the author's gender, simply assumed male from the era it was written and the subject matter. I'm delighted to be wrong, and saddened to hear of the loss of a great engineer.

Re:RTFM

[crispin_bollocks]

She saved my ass more than once, but I had no idea. There was no indication in the brief bio in the book, and I made an (probably sexist) assumption that it was perhaps a male Israeli name. Her book now resides in my brother's barn, next to the DG Aviion.

Re:Rawr

[gandhi_2]

Her Linux Administration Handbook (2nd Edition) was my first college textbook on the subject and I still have it.

It really is a pretty good text book. Even if it is bright purple with cartoon giraffes pondering 1337ness.

The sign on Evi's desk

[Arrogant-Bastard]

The last time I was in her office (which was many years ago) I noticed the sign on her desk:

Don't postpone joy.

She didn't. From the gusto with which she threw herself into her work to the whimsy that led her to recycle a jet fighter's cockpit canopy as a window in her improvised mountain home, she never hesitated to find a smile or a laugh.

So if we've lost her -- and I hope we haven't -- then we've not only lost someone who's been the mentor to an entire generation of system admins, we've lost a unique, wonderful, fascinating person.

p.s. I'm well aware that there are co-authors of those books. I'm equally well aware that Evi did the heavy lifting.

Re:The sign on Evi's desk

[dshk]

I am usually a developer, but I have spent most of my time with system administration for the last half year. Whenever I have a new task in an unknown area, I always start with reading the relevant chapter from her book. I usually read a few other, unrelated sections too. As I have read this sad post, her book was actually lying next to me, open on page 938.

Re:Rawr

[djh101010]

Purple? Newb...it's red. No, green. Wait, I'll come in again.

Re:Rawr

[CrankyFool]

I'm surprised no one has trotted out the obvious Trinity quote yet.

Oh-no

[rainer_d]

I didn't understand much of Unix before I read her book. But then I got my hands on the (then already ancient) 1st edition of the Unix System Administration Handbook - and it felt like a fog being lifted.

And I admit, I also thought she was a guy. She probably has baskets full of letters and emails with "Dear Mr Nemeth, ...".

Evi Nemeth, we owe you!

Re:Rawr

[Anonymous Coward]

You are too fucking stupid to actually click on the link labeled with her name.

-1, redundant

[hessian]

(poorly written) Wikipedia article

You repeat yourself.

Wikipedia is one of the worst parts of the standardization/normalization of the web.

Mixed metaphors

[93 Escort Wagon]

Wikipedia says her luxury yacht was named "Nina", which might sound something like "Minnow".

Although I hear that she pronounced it Throat-Warbler Mangrove.

My good friend at CU.

[SteveWoz]

Evi has been my closest contact at CU over the years. She was always a good friend and administered the scholarship I set up there. I am very sad but hoping to hear good news from my NZ friends. Evi was a very important person when it comes to Unix and Internet routing.

Re:My good friend at CU.

[pissoncutler]

I read "UNIX System Administration" cover to cover in preperation for my first big job interview, and it helped me land the job (and jump from Appalachia to Silicon Valley). I owe her (and her co-authors) for many years of employment and adventures. I hope she and her sailing companions are found safe and sound.

Re:Rawr

[amiga3D]

I kind of though Evi was a strange name for a dude.

Re:Rawr

[Iniamyen]

Damn you, keyboard ruined and such.

Re:Rawr

[Anonymous Coward]

The more recent version is, um, foreshadowing:

http://www.amazon.com/Linux-System-Administration-Handbook-Edition/dp/0131480057

Re:Alternate Explanation

[amicusNYCL]

Is that guy in the boat in the background flipping everyone else off? What's he, an Apple user?

Re:Alternate Explanation

[drinkypoo]

Is that guy in the boat in the background flipping everyone else off? What's he, an Apple user?

No, the Apple user is taking a crap on the desk. That guy is a VMS user.

Re:Alternate Explanation

[Beezlebub33]

Seriously, it makes me wonder if either: 1. this sort of thing (getting lost at sea) happens more often than we realize; or, 2) well known computer science types are more likely to have this happen to them.

I hereby vow not to become famous in computer science and then go boating. Thus far, I'm solving this problem through not being famous.

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is

[Anonymous Coward]

She, and show some respect. Honestly I hope I'm active enough at 73 to go cruising around the world in my yacht.

And if I'm going to die at 73, dying at sea while yachting sounds preferable to a slow decline while bedridden, just waiting for death to come to let me escape a life I no longer want.

Re:Alternate Explanation

[dshk]

Looking at the book cover carefully, I believe she is actually depicted on it. Not on the forward big ship, but on the small ship going away in the background. She mentions in the book that this is the last edition for her, because nowdays she spend most of her time on a sailing ship where she only has a 30 (or 300?) baud radio connection.

And I thought this was a post about me

[guruevi]

I read the first three words and I was like "aaah" but yes, sad story. Hopefully she turns up alive somewhere, she has written some great books.

Re:Rawr

[Culture20]

Naw, it's because Evi is such a masculine name, like Sally, Mary, or Petunia.

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is

[D'Sphitz]

People need to earn respect

Wow that's pretty insightful. Or I guess it could just be a tired, bullshit cliché used to justify treating people like shit and generally being an asshole. Naw, it's both brilliant and insightful, well done!

I hope she's alive and well

[VAElynx]

Linux System Administrator Guide put together by her among other people has been one of my favourite books during my teen years, and I learned quite a lot from it. Well written, funny in places, and explains how to do things really well.

Re:Rawr

[jschrod]

You don't know who Emi Nemeth was? But, you have a /. uid under 1,000,000? Who did you kill for that?

Anybody who's been around as long as you've supposed to be on this site and haven't heard about or read a book from Evi, is suspect.

How's PRISM going, Sir?

Re: He's obviously met his Nemeth-is

[Anonymous Coward]

a) I'm sure your family simply adores you, and b) she's earned our collective respect by writing one of the preeminent guides on Unix system administration. Additionally, I have a strong personal dislike for you and would gladly send you out to sea in exchange.

more information here

[AndroSyn]

I just googled a bit for further information about the ship and came across a rather interesting thread: http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f121/schooner-nina-merged-3-threads-105498.html

It appears the ship is equipped with an EPIRB that hasn't been activated apparently. Perhaps they really are just offcourse and not lost.

Re:more information here

[Anonymous Coward]

EPIRBS on sailboats can be somewhat problematic. The idea is that if the boat sinks, the EPIRB detaches and floats off, starts beeping and squealing and hopefully survivors are in the immediate vicinity. In a sailing vessel it's easy for the thing to get caught in the rigging and dragged down. They don't work if they are underwater.

And if the boat capsizes rapidly (unusual in a bigger sailboat) and the EPIRB can get trapped.

But hopefully they just lost their antennas and are OK.

Re:more information here

[AndroSyn]

It also seems that there is two classes of EPIRBS, the class I activates automatically and the class II which is a manual activated device. If it was a class II device and they went down in a hurry there might not have been time to activate it either. I have no clue which type of device they had onboard.

If anything, it is certainly is a reminder that the ocean is still a very dangerous place.

Re:more information here

[An dochasac]

Good thread. If someone Evi loved and respected were lost at sea, she might want to help organize a crowdsourced search and rescue effort like the one used in search of Jim Gray, Tyler Wright and Steve Fosset. What we need is data. As someone who has sailed for decades, I won't underestimate the scope of the effort. VHF radio doesn't reach much beyond the horizon and a mast of a ship that size wouldn't be seen or return a RADAR reflection more than about 7 miles under ideal conditions. So if EPIRB, HF and Satellite are down, the ship only has a 6 or 7 mile radius of observability, less if it has been dis-masted. (Somewhat likely given the conditions.) But the Tasman sea is huge so we need to use data to focus the search effort. The coast guard has a protocol which does this, based on tidal and weather patterns. But we can extend this based on the particular kind of boat, how well it sails into the wind, how fast it is, the captain and crew's behavior and the recommendations to go south of a low on June 3rd, 2013. Apparently GPS coordinates weren't part of Evi's last broadcast. But we can take the same reasonable assumption that I've see rescue people speak of, that they were in th center of the storm. Here is a weather satellite photo of the area on June 3rd. The storm seemed strongest at about 38S 165E. If they were in the thick of it by June 3rd, they were already pulled south of the rhumb-line to their destination, they might have drifted or been forced even further south. The storm grew stronger for at least another day as it moved east on June 4th. If they were ahead of (West of) the storm, they were almost certainly pushed north and west because lows circulate clockwise in the southern hemisphere. If they were behind it they may have been pushed south but I think this is less likely since they should have been already pretty far from NZ and the storm was moving east as they were moving west. Here are the weather satellite photos for the rest of June. But what we need are high resolution satellite or aircraft photos. Unfortunately this part of the world at this time of year is covered in clouds much of the time. Even the recon mission photos might not show much. So like the guy who looks for his keys under the streetlight, we might be limited in where we can crowdsource search. If someone were really industrious, they'd send out drones or balloons equipped with high resolution cameras. It's still a needle in a haystack, but its something. And if it helps bring these people home, it's worth it. If you ever want to read a harrowing story about someone lost at sea, only a few dozen miles from shore in the relatively tiny Irish sea, read the story of Fastnet 79, "Left for Dead." Evi, we're not giving up on you or the rest of the crew so keep hopeful and focus on yours and your friend's survival.

Re:Rawr

[ppanon]

And yet he cared enough to post. So if you're right then the conclusion would be that he's an ignorant lazy narcissistic smartass. Yeah, those guys need defending.

A Professor of Integrity

[Flwyd]

[previous post was accidentally anonymous]

I started CU at the tail end of Evi's career when she was, as she put it, "on sabbatical buying a boat." In five years in the classroom, I only got to hear one guest lecture from her. Yet through the passing interactions and from the smiles of respect every student gave her, I could tell Evi was a great person.

I remember an open meeting about improving things in the CS department. At one point, we decided to have a students-only brainstorming session for a while. "All the professors leave and come back in fifteen minutes. Except Evi, she can stay." That's the sign of someone with a lot of social capital.

Here's hoping a decade of sailing has taught Evi enough to get out of this jam. She's certainly taught many of us how to keep afloat in the cyber seas.

Re:James martin lost at sea as well, what is going

[Flwyd]

Gah! One of my other favorite professors from the University of Colorado is named Jim Martin. You had me very worried for a moment.

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is

[Provocateur]

Respect. She didn't spend all those years to become Mister Evi.

Re:Rawr

[LordLimecat]

No, its probably because the name is ambiguous, and a rather large percentage of tech industry folks are male.

Sort of like how if I said I was writing something, you would assume I was using paper, because the vast majority of writing is done on paper. That doesnt mean you have a gripe against stone tablets, its just unlikely thats what I was talking about.

Lighten up, dude.

Hopes are down

[vikingpower]

I was in a NATO Navy for some years, and have seen more than one scenario like this one unfold. Although there definitely may be some individuals clinging on to a lifeboat for dear life, I would consider the Nina lost. Not implausible for such racing yacht in the roughness of the Tasman Sea in ( local ) winter. Reports mentioned rough seas of up to 8 meters. I guess in the front(s) the Nina has had to endure, gusts could have easily gone over 80 knots. Under such conditions, a racing yacht as low on the water as the Nina can go down in a matter of minutes... The Aussies and especially the Kiwi CG are doing all they can, but the Tasman Sea measures about 2,380,000 square miles... At this point, anything less than a miracle is to be ruled out, and any miracle highly unlikely. Rest to their souls.

Re:Hopes are down

[vikingpower]

Were they for real taking a 80 plus year old boat into the Tasmin Sea in the dead of winter? ... making such a voyage at this time with that boat appears most foolish.

Agreed. It struck me last night, still thinking about this, that the Nina, in a storm, would have been seriously impeded and even put at risk by her rigging, which opposes so much resistance to the wind. These enormous masts ! Losing a mast - I keep imagining this event as the one that finished her: the incredible mess, the wounded people, the instability in such murderous swell. BTW: you are right on about the EPIRB. Taking several people in the dead of winter into the Tasmanian sea on such a boat, without caring to bring an EPIRB is irresponsible.

Re:Hopes are down

[vilanye]

As an retired US Coast Guard member, the stupidity of amateur sailors never stopped amazing me.

Re:Hopes are down

[angel one]

Interesting. But these were no amateurs. Evi sailed most of her life and exclusively the last 10 years with several open crossings under her belt. The captain was also an accomplished sailer who has owned and sailed the Nina for 25 years often with his wife and son. Even the Briton aboard had sailed the globe. So 4 of 7 crew were quite well-seasoned, not pleasure cruisers. They also knew the weather conditions and were expecting and prepared for tumult.

Re:Rawr

[K. S. Kyosuke]

You don't know who Emi Nemeth was?

Of course I know. I've had her book on my desk since a long time ago. And it's Evi, not "Emi".

Re:Alternate Explanation

[drinkypoo]

That's David Cutler, before he hopped from DEC to Microsoft and took the core of VMS with him to make Windows NT.

Well played, Coward. If you signed in, you'd win the internets for today.

Last known position 33.50 S 169.41E

[An dochasac]

Posted on the cruisers forum:

Current from Australia Maritime Safety Information current at 300000 UTC JUN 13 Issued by the Australian Maritime Safety Authority Rescue Coordination Centre (RCC Australia) Part 1. Distress, Urgency, CQ and Safety Messages: PAN PAN FM RCC AUSTRALIA 260143Z JUN 2013 AUSSAR 2013/4000 TASMAN SEA RCC AUSTRALIA REQUESTS INFORMATION REGARDING SIGHTINGS OR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE WHITE AND GREEN 60FT SCHOONER RIGGED VESESL 'NINA'. THE VESSEL HAS 7 POB, AND WAS ON A VOYAGE FROM OPUA NEW ZEALAND TO NEWCASTLE AUSTRALIA, LAST KNOWN POSITION 33-50S 169-41E 04 JUNE 2013. REPORTS TO THIS STATION OR RCC AUSTRALIA VIA TELEPHONE +61262306811 INMARSAT THROUGH LES BURUM (POR 212,IOR 312), SPECIAL ACCESS CODE (SAC) 39, HF DSC 005030001, EMAIL: rccaus@amsa.gov.au OR BY FAX +61262306868. NNNN

So this is why they're still looking in NZ. Last known position was north of the center of the storm which means she would have been initially blown east if she'd been dis-masted or her crew was otherwise set adrift on June 3-4th. One thing I don't understand is given this position, why would they have been guided to sail south, towards the center of the storm in order to "get out of this nasty weather"?

Notice that they aren't too far from an intense white spot (thunderhead?) in this photo. Could they have been guided from inside a relatively localized thunderstorm towards the eye of the storm?

Re:Last known position 33.50 S 169.41E

[JakartaDean]

Thanks for the cruisers forum link, learned a lot there. The very first search seems to have been ENE of NZ, then they went north and west assuming progress towards Oz, now looking back at NZ, apparently under the assumption she's been dismasted or otherwise disabled. The boat was fitted with a new engine in Opua, and the engine was only run in for 30 minutes before they departed, so a loss of electricity seems a logical assumption from the lack of communication.

SARS have *not* called off the search. While things look grave there are certainly reasons to remain hopeful -- good crew, strong boat, logical explanation for loss of electronics. I wouldn't write them off yet.

Dean -- used to sail a bit

Re:Last known position 33.50 S 169.41E June 4th

[An dochasac]

I just noticed the date of the Pan-Pan alert. I wonder if the standard for PanPan broadcasts is Zulu time or local time and if so, what locale? Anyway by midnight June 4th Z, the storm was right over them and then sending them south should have reduced their time in the storm but it would have risked giving them a fierce headwind and driving them back to New Zealand if they were disabled.

Jun 4 IR satview with approx last known position

[An dochasac]

Enhanced satellite image with last known position of the Nina on June 4, 2013. (Arrow drawn to approximate position.)

Re:He's obviously met his Nemeth-is

[angel one]

Wow. Anonymous Coward, either you never met Evi or she called you on your bs and bruised your ego. I hope it makes you feel better to repeatedly trash someone who touched the lives of thousands, and trash those who do respect her and had her respect.

Re:No disrespect to this lady or her lost companio

[angel one]

Not so. Did you not notice that you are commenting on a post by Steve Wozniak? Or do you not know who he is? And for him to say she is important? Do you have no idea who Evi actually is? How many lives she's touched through decades of teaching computing, mentoring system administrators (thanks, Woz), and traveling the world teaching system administration and networking? And those are just the people who know her personally. Then there are countless others who have relied on her many books and don't even know if she is she or he because they didn't get to hear her talk at a conference. Nonetheless, sites like slashdot don't function except by the graces of those who have probably used her books at some point.

Evi Nemeth was really special.

[billstewart]

Hopefully still is, shipwrecked on some island with her electronics dead, but it's not sounding good. I first met Evi back in the 80s at Usenix conferences, and she was an amazing person, as just about anybody who knew her will tell you.

Re:Evi Nemeth was really special.

[Lev Lafayette]

Closest landmass from last contact Norfolk Island. If they did end up shipwrecked there, they would have been found. Sadly, I don't think this is the case. Valedictions to a great mind.

Re:James martin lost at sea as well? Yow!

[billstewart]

I remember James Martin's seminars in the early 80s - hugely influential.

But while he drowned, he wasn't lost at sea; he was near his retirement home in Bermuda. Sad.

Re:No distress radiobeacon on board?

[billstewart]

They had lots of electronics on board, but the last message successfully received was from her satellite phone, asking about a way around the weather they'd run into.

Re:Last known position Units????

[An dochasac]

Too many years in sciences, I read Nina's last known position as decimal. I think the alert was in DD-MM so -33 Degrees, 50 minutes and 169 degrees 41 minutes which is -33.8333 169.68333. It also isn't as far south as in that photobucket image I posted earlier, but is very near the center of this MODIS image for June 4th. If you go to this website you can zoom in and out and change the date and be amazed at how rapidly this low forms a circular storm and moves east leaving a whispy trail of high-wind clouds. The best resolution MODIS imagery is around 250mm so little chance of seeing a boat but NASA/NOAA night imagery might be able to pick up ship lights if they are particularly bright.

Missing yacht near Australia, father says

[Lev Lafayette]

Personally, I think he's being optimistic.

I would *like* to be optimistic.

- - -
The father of an 18-year-old on board the missing American schooner Nina believes it may be just days from making port in Australia.

Ricky Wright's daughter, Danielle Wright, is one of seven people on board the 84-year-old wooden vessel, which was on its way to Australia from Opua in the Bay of Islands.

The crew have not been heard from since June 4, when Nina was about 370 nautical miles west-northwest New Zealand.

Mr Wright told news website KATC that he estimated Nina was currently just four or five days from making port in Australia.

He based this on a satellite phone message from the vessel which had only recently been received because it took weeks for the US government to authorise its release due to privacy laws.

The message said Nina had passed through two storms in early June and had damaged sails from high winds but was still making headway at 4 knots per hour.

"My prediction is they are making 3 knots, and the storm pushed them north of where they thought they would be," Mr Wright said.

"The main search area was south of where they are."

Read more at: http://www.odt.co.nz/news/world/263599/missing-yacht-near-australia-father-says