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iOS 7 Beta 3 Now Available For iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch

An anonymous reader writes "Apple on Monday released iOS 7 beta 3 for the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch to developers. Apple unveiled iOS 7 during its WWDC 2013 keynote in early June, and the new software was met with mixed responses. While some believe iOS 7 is a big leap forward in terms of innovation, BGR said that iOS 7 focused mainly on renovation rather than the introduction of innovative new features. Of course, Apple still may have some surprises in store for the release version of iOS 7 this fall, especially considering the next-generation iPhone 5S is expected to launch around the same time with an integrated fingerprint scanner."

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  1. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by kharbour · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Plus there is the small issue that once your iPad1 is updated to iOS5, apps crash all the time as the iPad1 does not have enough memory any more. And you can't roll back to iOS 4. And if you decide to write your own private apps for your own iPad, you have to buy a Mac, pay Apple $99 a year, and keep provisioning every 3 months. Needless to say, I've also switched to Android.

  2. It's not quite ready for release yet by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Be careful about installing this. The new icons and colour scheme still cause some older display panels to burst into flames or, in extreme cases, the entire device to shut down out of embarrassment.

  3. Re:OMG, it still looks the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure you've reviewed every line of all the open source code on your Android device to ensure none of your activities are being sent anywhere you don't want them to.

    You haven't. Hoping someone else has doesn't cut it either, unless you review it how do you know there are no backdoors?

    And besides all of that.. congratulations, you're likely using one of the four major cellular providers who all provide a direct feed to the NSA anyway.

  4. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by Quila · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My family has had three Android phones. None of them were released with the latest Android OS, and none of them ever had an official upgrade to the latest Android OS of the time. With one of them, we bought the phone only on the promise by the manufacturer that it would be upgraded to Android 4.x (the hardware is capable), and that won't be happening.

    These three Android phone companies said "fuck you" from the very beginning. Never. Again.

    The original iPad could run the latest iOS for 2.5 years after its introduction, 1.5 years after its discontinuation. That's far better than the official Android support you'll see.

  5. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

    Plus there is the small issue that once your iPad1 is updated to iOS5, apps crash all the time as the iPad1 does not have enough memory any more. And you can't roll back to iOS 4.

    Whatever person marked this as flamebait is an overzealous fanboi -- this pretty much exactly describes what happened with my first gen iPad.

    Everything crashes all the time, and the device has become rather useless and slow from what it started out as.

    I'm going to try to reset it to factory and see what I end up with -- if it goes all the way back to the way I got it, I might not even take the OS upgrade, and just put a skeleton set of software on it and leave it that way.

    Like the poster, I'm looking into Android alternatives to the iPad.

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  6. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, but you could update them yourself with ROMS from the community. Good luck doing that with iproducts that are no longer supported.

  7. Cue the emo fanboy ranting from both sides... by H0p313ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously guys, get over yourselves.

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  8. Apples lost residual value by tuppe666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sounds like you're not the intended demographic for Apple. You need more hipster or fanboi to properly appreciate the lost value of the Apple product.

    Probably not, but his point is that Apple used to have long support cycles, and good second hand value. Traditionally many Apple owners benefited from this, and justified some of its premium price for a mid-range product. The effects of reduced support cycles due to its expanded product lines...and move towards disposable electronics, removed a lot of value from its products. A move that will affect the Apple faithful more than these new hipster or fanboi you talk about who if anything have the latest Samsung.

  9. You can install from other sources by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The ability to install apps from sources that aren't the official app store and the ability to develop apps for free without paying a $100/year subscription?

    Both have the same answer - Jailbreak. Which is easy to do if you are technically inclined enough to want to program or to be able to protect yourself from malicious sideloaded programs.

    Once jailbroken, you can deploy anything you like without paying the $100 fee to deploy to your device. It also opens up the ability to easily hack any third party application with simple code additions.

    Meanwhile non-technical users get a fairly secure system that they cannot screw up too easily.

    And on a side note, you don't even need to jailbreak just to install apps from sources not from the app store. Anyone can install ad-hoc builds, anyone with an enterprise license can provide installable apps to anyone (though technically they are supposed to be employees).

    Plus an open source kernel, so you can verify that all your activity isn't being routed directly to Apple for the NSA

    iOS is as open source in that regard, and there've also been quite a lot of people analyzing network traffic outbound from it.

    It's absurd to clam that (for instance) the Android that ships with a Samsung or Motorola phone is something you can see all the source code for... that simply is not true.

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  10. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually Android suffers from the same hardware limits as iOS. For example the latest version from CyanogenMod you can get on the HTC G1 is "froyo" while the MyTouch 4G only supports up to "gingerbread".

    You can only squeeze so much features on older hardware with slower CPUs and more importantly smaller memory.

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  11. Re:Or numerous other Android devices ... by perpenso · · Score: 4, Informative

    It would seem appropriate to pick the Kindle Fire, the best selling Android tablet. Tablet v tablet, 1st gen v 1st gen, best seller v best seller, etc.

    $200 vs $600, etc.

    Actually it was $500. For the record this $500 device received six major OS upgrades (3.2 to 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 5.0 and 5.1), the $200 device received zero.

  12. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by StuartHankins · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wish it wasn't true, but you hit the nail on the head. My iPad 1 is much less useful now than it was out of the box.

  13. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My family has had three Android phones. None of them were released with the latest Android OS, and none of them ever had an official upgrade to the latest Android OS of the time. With one of them, we bought the phone only on the promise by the manufacturer that it would be upgraded to Android 4.x (the hardware is capable), and that won't be happening.

    These three Android phone companies said "fuck you" from the very beginning. Never. Again.

    The original iPad could run the latest iOS for 2.5 years after its introduction, 1.5 years after its discontinuation. That's far better than the official Android support you'll see.

    *All* of the phone vendors have ridiculously short support periods. You can go out and buy a £300 laptop with Windows 8 on it and MS will support that for at least 10 years, after which you can probably upgrade the OS yourself and get a few years more support (I would hazard that current chipsets may well still be perfectly servicable in 10 years time. Certainly my 6 year old laptop isn't showing any signs of needing a hardware upgrade). Conversely you put down £600 on a phone and you're expected to throw it away and buy another one after 2 years.

    You get a *bit* better support from Apple and Google than from Samsung, HTC, etc. but its still not great. I hold up as an example, my Samsung Captivate Glide, which was released in November 2011 with Gingerbread on it. 11 months after Android 4.0 was released by Google, Samsung eventually released it for the Captivate Glide... except it was unusably buggy. Despite having similar hardware to the Galaxy S II, as of November 2012 (only 1 year after its release) Samsung have basically dropped all support for it. No more bugfixes, security updates, etc.

    What we actually need is standardised phone hardware and open drivers so we can just install a generic OS ourselves instead of having to wait for the vendor to get their finger out and publish a device specific one. Despite the likes of Cyanogenmod, there's still a whole load of device-specific code; you can't just take the latest Android and slap it on an arbitrary phone like you can take a random Linux ow Windows and stick it on any PC.

  14. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If OS support is important to you, then go with Google's Nexus Android devices. They always get quick updates.

    Still *very* hit and miss. For example, the Nexus S was released in December 2010 and Google announced there would be no more software updates for it in November 2012. So thats under 2 years of software updates.

    The successor to the Nexus S - the Galaxy Nexus - went on sale in November 2011. So realistically, if you wanted a Nexus device in October 2011 you would've got a whole 1 year's worth of software updates for your money. I'd accept that for a £20 phone, but these things are a similar price to a laptop, and a Windows laptop would have around 10 years of security updates from Microsoft after you bought it...

  15. Re:Unless you have a 1st gen iPad ... by the_B0fh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since Apple has provided updates to the iPhone 3GS up till now, your claims are not credible.

  16. Re:OMG, it still looks the same by the_B0fh · · Score: 4, Informative

    You know what happened? People *DID* look it up. The version of CarrierIQ on iPhones did not send anything to Apple unless you enabled diagnostics. So the user selected to send info.

    Additionally, tcpdumps showed that only the minimal information was sent, certainly not texts, emails or attachments.

    And Android/Nexus did not have CarrierIQ.

    However, carriers put them in (aka, crapware), and some of these carriers enabled the "send texts, emails and attachments as well" features.

    So, in the future, please keep your stories straight. TYVM.