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iOS 7 Beta 3 Now Available For iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch
An anonymous reader writes "Apple on Monday released iOS 7 beta 3 for the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch to developers. Apple unveiled iOS 7 during its WWDC 2013 keynote in early June, and the new software was met with mixed responses. While some believe iOS 7 is a big leap forward in terms of innovation, BGR said that iOS 7 focused mainly on renovation rather than the introduction of innovative new features. Of course, Apple still may have some surprises in store for the release version of iOS 7 this fall, especially considering the next-generation iPhone 5S is expected to launch around the same time with an integrated fingerprint scanner."
it sucks
as someone who carries an iphone 5 and Galaxy S3 daily what is iOS missing that's so awesome on Android?
Ok, look, I'm a huge Apple fanboy and love Apple news but, come ON!! Apple posted a Beta of iOS 7 and that's making it onto the front page?
Guess what? They're going to release another beta of iOS 7 in about two weeks. And then another two weeks later. And so on and so on. Each one will be a bit tighter and tighter until they release the final gold master.
I don't mind seeing these sorts of updates on appleinsider.com but here? Come on!
Plus there is the small issue that once your iPad1 is updated to iOS5, apps crash all the time as the iPad1 does not have enough memory any more. And you can't roll back to iOS 4. And if you decide to write your own private apps for your own iPad, you have to buy a Mac, pay Apple $99 a year, and keep provisioning every 3 months. Needless to say, I've also switched to Android.
Three years.
This version features more tie-dyed interfaces and even thin sans serif fonts. They continued to use the "grid" feature in Photoshop for icons. This changes everything, again.
Be careful about installing this. The new icons and colour scheme still cause some older display panels to burst into flames or, in extreme cases, the entire device to shut down out of embarrassment.
Unless you have a 1st gen iPad because they dropped support for those after iOS 5. Which is why I now own an Android tablet, ...
Hopefully that Android tablet is not a 1st gen Kindle Fire because they were release with Android 2.3 and were never upgraded. Now if you buy a brand new Kindle Fire you can have Android 4. Many other Android devices have also never been updated to 4.0.
In contrast to the first gen Kindle Fire that never got upgraded from Android 2.3 the first gen iPad shipped with iOS 3.2 and was upgraded to 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 5.0 and 5.1.
Sounds like you're not the intended demographic for Apple. You need more hipster or fanboi to properly appreciate the lost value of the Apple product.
My family has had three Android phones. None of them were released with the latest Android OS, and none of them ever had an official upgrade to the latest Android OS of the time. With one of them, we bought the phone only on the promise by the manufacturer that it would be upgraded to Android 4.x (the hardware is capable), and that won't be happening.
These three Android phone companies said "fuck you" from the very beginning. Never. Again.
The original iPad could run the latest iOS for 2.5 years after its introduction, 1.5 years after its discontinuation. That's far better than the official Android support you'll see.
Whatever person marked this as flamebait is an overzealous fanboi -- this pretty much exactly describes what happened with my first gen iPad.
Everything crashes all the time, and the device has become rather useless and slow from what it started out as.
I'm going to try to reset it to factory and see what I end up with -- if it goes all the way back to the way I got it, I might not even take the OS upgrade, and just put a skeleton set of software on it and leave it that way.
Like the poster, I'm looking into Android alternatives to the iPad.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
No, but you could update them yourself with ROMS from the community. Good luck doing that with iproducts that are no longer supported.
. . . should take a moment to pat themselves on the back and congratulate themselves on their intellectual laziness. He made a valid technical point, it's worth knowing that the first gen iPads are being phased out and that, if this is Apple's game, the consumer should at least be aware of it.
It's mind-boggling how many robots jumped on this post for trolling and flamebait.
Seriously guys, get over yourselves.
XML is a known as a key material required to create SMD: Software of Mass Destruction
Sounds like you're not the intended demographic for Apple. You need more hipster or fanboi to properly appreciate the lost value of the Apple product.
Probably not, but his point is that Apple used to have long support cycles, and good second hand value. Traditionally many Apple owners benefited from this, and justified some of its premium price for a mid-range product. The effects of reduced support cycles due to its expanded product lines...and move towards disposable electronics, removed a lot of value from its products. A move that will affect the Apple faithful more than these new hipster or fanboi you talk about who if anything have the latest Samsung.
Enjoy your iPod Killer. There aren't any.
Reality check complete.
It was the Android Phone :) (and very sensibly the iPhone)
Presumably the NSA wanted it added so they could tie fingerprints to call data.
The ability to install apps from sources that aren't the official app store and the ability to develop apps for free without paying a $100/year subscription?
Both have the same answer - Jailbreak. Which is easy to do if you are technically inclined enough to want to program or to be able to protect yourself from malicious sideloaded programs.
Once jailbroken, you can deploy anything you like without paying the $100 fee to deploy to your device. It also opens up the ability to easily hack any third party application with simple code additions.
Meanwhile non-technical users get a fairly secure system that they cannot screw up too easily.
And on a side note, you don't even need to jailbreak just to install apps from sources not from the app store. Anyone can install ad-hoc builds, anyone with an enterprise license can provide installable apps to anyone (though technically they are supposed to be employees).
Plus an open source kernel, so you can verify that all your activity isn't being routed directly to Apple for the NSA
iOS is as open source in that regard, and there've also been quite a lot of people analyzing network traffic outbound from it.
It's absurd to clam that (for instance) the Android that ships with a Samsung or Motorola phone is something you can see all the source code for... that simply is not true.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
If OS support is important to you, then go with Google's Nexus Android devices. They always get quick updates.
Actually Android suffers from the same hardware limits as iOS. For example the latest version from CyanogenMod you can get on the HTC G1 is "froyo" while the MyTouch 4G only supports up to "gingerbread".
You can only squeeze so much features on older hardware with slower CPUs and more importantly smaller memory.
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I still use the iPad for some things (still the best way to get digital copies of films
trolling for sure.
blu-ray is currently the best way to get digital copies of films, in terms of video and audio quality anyways, which is the entire point of having it.
furthermore, with the right tools and a middle-finger to the DMCA, you can put that film on damn near any device you want.
how is locking it to iproducts a better way?
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Wish it wasn't true, but you hit the nail on the head. My iPad 1 is much less useful now than it was out of the box.
My family has had three Android phones. None of them were released with the latest Android OS, and none of them ever had an official upgrade to the latest Android OS of the time. With one of them, we bought the phone only on the promise by the manufacturer that it would be upgraded to Android 4.x (the hardware is capable), and that won't be happening.
These three Android phone companies said "fuck you" from the very beginning. Never. Again.
The original iPad could run the latest iOS for 2.5 years after its introduction, 1.5 years after its discontinuation. That's far better than the official Android support you'll see.
*All* of the phone vendors have ridiculously short support periods. You can go out and buy a £300 laptop with Windows 8 on it and MS will support that for at least 10 years, after which you can probably upgrade the OS yourself and get a few years more support (I would hazard that current chipsets may well still be perfectly servicable in 10 years time. Certainly my 6 year old laptop isn't showing any signs of needing a hardware upgrade). Conversely you put down £600 on a phone and you're expected to throw it away and buy another one after 2 years.
You get a *bit* better support from Apple and Google than from Samsung, HTC, etc. but its still not great. I hold up as an example, my Samsung Captivate Glide, which was released in November 2011 with Gingerbread on it. 11 months after Android 4.0 was released by Google, Samsung eventually released it for the Captivate Glide... except it was unusably buggy. Despite having similar hardware to the Galaxy S II, as of November 2012 (only 1 year after its release) Samsung have basically dropped all support for it. No more bugfixes, security updates, etc.
What we actually need is standardised phone hardware and open drivers so we can just install a generic OS ourselves instead of having to wait for the vendor to get their finger out and publish a device specific one. Despite the likes of Cyanogenmod, there's still a whole load of device-specific code; you can't just take the latest Android and slap it on an arbitrary phone like you can take a random Linux ow Windows and stick it on any PC.
http://blog.nexusuk.org
If OS support is important to you, then go with Google's Nexus Android devices. They always get quick updates.
Still *very* hit and miss. For example, the Nexus S was released in December 2010 and Google announced there would be no more software updates for it in November 2012. So thats under 2 years of software updates.
The successor to the Nexus S - the Galaxy Nexus - went on sale in November 2011. So realistically, if you wanted a Nexus device in October 2011 you would've got a whole 1 year's worth of software updates for your money. I'd accept that for a £20 phone, but these things are a similar price to a laptop, and a Windows laptop would have around 10 years of security updates from Microsoft after you bought it...
http://blog.nexusuk.org
Been burned three times with Android, not risking it again. I have a friend who got a 3GS for free back in 2011, and it's sitll good for iOS 6. That's four years and three generations old. I find that pretty amazing, especially since it doesn't even have an A-series processor.
True. But at least with android, you can be sure it's limited by hardware, as opposed to the manufacturer artificially deciding that your device is now obsolete.
At $200, a Google Nexus is disposable technology.
http://androidandme.com/2013/06/opinions/one-year-later-the-nexus-7-has-gone-from-the-best-to-worst-tablet-ive-ever-owned/
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Ugly as shit. Someone drown that Hello Kitty mother fucker.
Chewbacon
The Bible is like Wikipedia: written by a bunch of people and verifiable by questionable sources.
Since Apple has provided updates to the iPhone 3GS up till now, your claims are not credible.
The Nexus line has a good track record with that; unlike Apple. There's also Surface Pro for a bit more longevity (5 years minimum)
They're phones. They're not considered to have the lifespan of full computers. Plus, this is the fairly early years of this type of product. Hardware is changing extremely fast.
As I noted in another post, I'm surprised that an iPhone 3GS still supports iOS 6. While it still uses an ARM, it's the same SOC as a Palm Pre at 600 MHz and only has 256 MB RAM. Wild guess, this must be much less than 1/10th as powerful as the SOC the current OS runs on. And yet it's supported.
The problem with Android makers is that somehow they think they can be lazy, and they're mostly right that they can get away with it. We know various Android versions work on their phones because Cyanogenmod is successfully running on them. They just don't bother to build, test and roll out the official update.
Given a choice, I'll go with the one with the proven record of updates.
If updating with community/unsupported firmware is on the table, then you can do the same. iOS has whited00r.
They're phones. They're not considered to have the lifespan of full computers.
Why not? They are just as expensive, and arguably less essential...
http://blog.nexusuk.org
Everything crashes all the time, and the device has become rather useless and slow from what it started out as.
The sad story of every personal computer ever made.
Nobody supports your old platform because there are newer ones, leaving you to run the software last designed for it. /shock /surprise
Software makers can say "Version X of our application now requires platform version Z" but you'd moan about the arbitrariness of those numbers.
Or even the Atrix. Much maligned due to Motorola dropping support for it like a hot potato, it was really nice to have the lock button and fingerprint canner combined so you could unlock the phone in one hand without weird thumb contortions.
"You can only squeeze so much features on older hardware with slower CPUs and more importantly smaller memory considering the bloat these n00b programmers use to make things functional"
FTFY.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I notice you leave out this:
Not all users said they had experienced problems however, with some saying the tablet worked as well as the day they got it.
Also, I notice that the article is completely devoid of any numbers. Just links to two anecdotes. But apparently that's good enough for you iFanbois to feel secure in living in your walled garden.
For the record, I've got a Nexus 7, and have been using it pretty much daily for the year I've had it, and haven't run into these issues. I'm certainly not saying that there are no issues and that everybody reporting them is a liar; there are issues with *everything*, including iDevices.
--Jeremy
Jesus was a liberal
I wouldn't say that. I love my iPhone 5 and iPad Mini, but know the day will come when a new OS won't support some core feature on my device for no other reason than that Apple doesn't want to. For instance, Siri wasn't available on my old iPhone 4 and there's no way you can make me believe that wasn't for marketing reasons. There was some bullshit excuse about the 4 not having enough computing power, but for what? All of Siri's work is done on a remote server farm. You expect me to believe the 4 didn't have enough processing ability to encode a few seconds of voice into an MP3, AAC, or whatever and upload it to the server? That's ludicrous.
Some features don't make sense on older devices. I remember being bummed when iOS 4 came out and my 2nd-gen iPod Touch couldn't use multitasking, but understood that you just can't run that many simultaneous apps in 128MB of RAM. I also remember being pissed that the same iPod Touch didn't support setting the home screen's background picture. WTF? A 480x320x32bpp image takes 600KB of RAM, whether it's a picture of my kids or nothing but solid black.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
It's more that Apple allows updates to the device firmware past where the hardware is even adequate to run it. Of course, if they didn't people would bitch about Apple prematurely obsoleting the hardware, so it's a lose-lose situation.
His iPad was probably actually faster and more stable when he bought it than it is now. The latest update wasn't "the software last designed for it".
All Nexus devices have an unlocked bootloader and full Cyanogen support. If you really get a boner for running the latest and greatest OS (note that it isn't required for 99.9% of apps or features) you can still do it.
What you gain in being able to update Apple devices you more than lose to the lock-down and lack of fairly basic features that have been in Android since the early days. So what if you can't install the latest Google keyboard? Just download it from Play or pick any of the dozens of quality alternatives. Keep in mind that half the feature updates are from apps like Google Maps anyway, and they work fine on older OS versions and get all the updates.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
No, he is spot on. Have you actually tried running the latest versions of iOS on an 3GS? A lot of people discover how badly it runs and downgrade just to get a usable device back.
Technically an original Pentium can boot Windows XP... Maybe even a 486. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
And this is true for as long as someone has a jailbreak available for your device
Which so far is every device.
it voids your warranty.
No, actually, it doesn't. By law in fact. Kind of odd Apple Haters keep bringing this up, when even Congress told them it wasn't true... do you have a mental deficiency that keeps you from processing new information?
ALL Android devices come with this as a simple checkbox option; no rooting or warranty voiding required.
No, you only need to root if you ever want a software update. SO MUCH BETTER!
Meanwhile all the non-technical users check that box so they can use the Amazon app store and prompt download viruses that SMS for them to paid numbers... yeah that situation sure is awesome! Well, for technical users. But screw normal people right? I mean, hundreds of millions should suffer so it's a tiny bit easier for you to sideload, right?
Once again the Apple Haters show they know nothing and care even less for normal people.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
5.0 crippled the first gen iPad, and the Kindle Fire is just a store front for Amazon that runs a bastardized version of Android.
You are mistaken. Only the cosmetic screen appearance of the operating system has changed. Underneath the Kindle Fire is a stock Android SDK 2.3 (api level 10) environment including 3.0 extensions via the support library (fragments, etc). Many Android apps and games run just fine if they are compatible with API level 10 and support library v4.
So, in the future, please keep your stories straight.
An Apple Hater couldn't keep his story straight if it were sitting under a hot iron.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I agree, that's why I sold my 1st gen iPad. I don't expect a decade of support, but at least more than 2 years.
21st Century Renaissance Man
Uhh, you do know that Cyanogenmod isn't the only community ROM, right? The HTC Dream/G1 has ICS and the myTouch 4G has JB.
#3 - iCloud
See #4. Backing up more than 5 GB of data involves a recurring fee, even if you have plenty of available space on a server that uses a protocol other than iCloud.
You do realize that the 4S had noise cancellation hardware that the iPhone 4 lacked? They ran tests with a jailbroken iPhone 4 next to an iPhone 4S. The experience was sub-par.
The difference is that IC density increases (Moore's law) are still leading to user-noticeable performance improvements in mobile. On PC, not so much.
Are you telling me a 2 year old Asus tablet is now running Ice Cream sandwich? Or are you saying you still get v2.x updates?
Third option. Users of devices that run Gingerbread are still getting application updates even if not operating system updates.
We have those too...But they don't bring out the fanboys, trolls, and other bitchy idiots like the ios vs android :)
My iPad 1 works just fine. Yes, certain apps crash, once in a while, but not enough to be a bother. As they say, YMMV.
All Nexus devices have an unlocked bootloader and full Cyanogen support. If you really get a boner for running the latest and greatest OS (note that it isn't required for 99.9% of apps or features) you can still do it.
What you describe is completely beyond the vast majority of phone owners. It really isn't good enough for the vendor to drop support after such a short time on such an expensive device. None of this is about getting a boner running the latest OS, its about the fact that the phone you only bought a year ago is nolonger getting any kind of security updates (I do wonder how this fits into the EU legal framework that requires vendors to fix manufacturing/design defects for at least 2 years after the sale of a product).
What you gain in being able to update Apple devices you more than lose to the lock-down and lack of fairly basic features that have been in Android since the early days. So what if you can't install the latest Google keyboard? Just download it from Play or pick any of the dozens of quality alternatives. Keep in mind that half the feature updates are from apps like Google Maps anyway, and they work fine on older OS versions and get all the updates.
I'm not defending Apple here at all - the phone vendors are *all* terrible at this stuff. Apple is marginally better than most, but they're still not great.
http://blog.nexusuk.org
Source for 99.9% ?
Please educate us and those plebs on the one true way to right an operating system.
And if you decide to write your own private apps for your own iPad, you have to buy a Mac, pay Apple $99 a year, and keep provisioning every 3 months.
Around when the 3GS came out I had some good app ideas and was really excited to make them real. Then I found out you had to have a Mac. Not to be dissuaded, I found a Mac Mini for $400 at Microcenter. Unfortunately, the thing was so underpowered it was practically useless. Having already wasted $400 and still unable to get started, coupled with having to learn Obj-C, the idea basically died out. I know Apple's in business to make money, but the Mac requirement is a pretty big hurdle.
rooooar
Get ready for the BOOM!
But seriously, I really hope that the iOS upgrade doesn't crash my Exchange server. I'm tired of the devices blowing up my logs.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
Have you tried it? Which ROM did you try? If a specific ROM is too slow for you, try a different one. I'm not seeing any real complaints on the forums.
My arse.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Dicenomicon no longer has its textures screwed up :D
Go look at MenuetOS and we'll start talking.
Also, get some ASM programming experience.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
As anonymous mentioned, the noise cancellation was the big issue.
As for your background - go check out google. People who jail broken their Touch and changed the background found that it really slowed it down, so much so that they changed it back.
No idea why, but there were guesses that the way it was rendered needed some gpu or something that wasn't available at the hardware level on the 2nd generation.
So, no. I have not seen Apple deprecate any function *BECAUSE THEY WANT TO*. They may not necessary tell you *WHY* but when a feature is deprecated, there usually ends up being a technical/use reason for it.
Actually, people are saying that iOS 6 is far better on the 3GS than iOS 5.
References please.
And yet my iPhone 4 sounded great for voice conversations. I can certainly believe that the implementation was optimized for the 4S, but I'm highly skeptical that the overall design required any 4S-specific features.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
So I'm proving an existing issue and you're countering with a highly unlikely (yet possible) issue?
Good job.
Android's exploits can and will be fixed. iPhone's Bluetooth Stack issue won't.
...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
It's more that Apple allows updates to the device firmware past where the hardware is even adequate to run it. Of course, if they didn't people would bitch about Apple prematurely obsoleting the hardware, so it's a lose-lose situation.
That's a false dichotomy though, isn't it.
Apple didn't actually force me to upgrade my iPad1 to iOS5, but they certainly encouraged me to do so, without any warning of the possible ill effects.
For example, some apps I bought long before iOS5 came out got updates which required updating to iOS5. On the one hand you could argue that it's nice of the developers/Apple to offer free app updates. On the other, updating to iOS5 so I can run that latest versions of some of the apps I bought meant lots of apps started to crash on my iPad1 very frequently.
In my opinion what Apple should have done is at least allow (approved) downgrades to iOS4 - hence avoiding the lose-lose situation. Ok, so some of the apps that require iOS5 would then not work (although iTunes could in principle allow app downgrade from backup as well), but, you know, at least that would be my choice. Choice of course is not something Apple likes its customers to have.