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Maybe Steve Ballmer Doesn't Deserve the Hate

Nerval's Lobster writes "Who could forget Steve Ballmer's defining moment, that infamous 'Developers! Developers! Developers!' rant that became a YouTube hit? Or the reports of frighteningly accurate chair-throwing? Who could miss the tech media and investors blaming him for everything from Microsoft's largely stagnant stock price over the past decade to its inability to get in front of trends such as mobile devices? But tech columnist (and Kernel editor-in-chief) Milo Yiannopoulos talked to a bunch of Ballmer's friends and colleagues, picked through Microsoft's history, and came away with the argument that the man deserves a second look as an effective leader. 'He stands accused of running one of the greatest companies in American history into the ground, even as its stock price remains remarkably resilient and the company continues to turn a healthy profit,' he writes. 'The mature verdict on Steve Ballmer is that he has made only one major strategic error: not combining his own brilliance for sales and detail with a visionary product leader who has the authority to create bold new revenue streams for the company.' Do you agree? Or does Ballmer deserve his reputation as a bad CEO?"

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  1. He deserves it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or does Ballmer deserve his reputation as a bad CEO?

    He's a bald CEO, there's no denying it.

    Oh wait, you said bad CEO. My mistake.

  2. The company you keep by intermodal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I tend to judge leaders by those they choose to surround themselves with. Delegating is one of the most important tasks any leader or executive has, and choosing to whom you will be doing so is the most vital decision they can make.

    Therefore, I refuse to judge Ballmer as a leader, since I haven't really examined who he keeps company with. However, I still generally dislike Microsoft's products and strategies.

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    1. Re:The company you keep by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Informative

      Look at his right-hand man, Kevin Turner. Human waste on legs.

      Look who he ran off, before anointing Turner: Kevin Johnston. Actually decent.

      Balmer also flushed good guys like Allchin and Maritz, or drove them away. While toadies live Valentine were perked.

      The best of the remaining lot hangs out a tier away from the stink. God bless Bill Laing. Actual good human being, and a pleasure to work with.

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    2. Re:The company you keep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Look at his right-hand man, Kevin Turner. Human waste on legs.

      Look who he ran off, before anointing Turner: Kevin Johnston. Actually decent.

      Balmer also flushed good guys like Allchin and Maritz, or drove them away. While toadies live Valentine were perked.

      The best of the remaining lot hangs out a tier away from the stink. God bless Bill Laing. Actual good human being, and a pleasure to work with.

      For those of us who DON'T passionately follow the minutia of Microsoft's internal management and political issues and who generally tend to glaze over news about their VPs/middle managers as if they WEREN'T the most fascinating people with the most compelling stories to tell, what you did there was throw up a bunch of generic names that very, very few people could possibly recognize or care about. Would you please provide more detail as to who these people are, what they did, and why we should care, all while keeping in mind that the fact that we don't currently care about any of them means we're not at all compelled to waste our time justifying your personal corporate obsessions by Googling their names?

    3. Re:The company you keep by Threni · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > I tend to judge leaders by those they choose to surround themselves with

      Hmm. If the company tanks, no-one's going to remember those other people. Or the company, ultimately. In business, it's just profit that counts - keeping the company going, making products people want (or need). Currently, Microsoft don't seem to be doing very well, hence the falling PC sales, price cuts on Microsoft's overpriced tablets with poor battery life etc, shocking Windows 8 sales to which Microsoft reluctantly conceded needed a change so that people could actually use them the way they were used to etc. More time is needed to see if Microsoft can recover from these decisions or if the decline he's ruled over will continue until Microsoft exit the stage.

    4. Re:The company you keep by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you don't own a fair amount of MSFT stock or make million-dollar IT contract purchases? Why should you then care?

      If you do, then these names are at least passing familiarity.

      The whole article is a parlour game, even if you do own or buy significantly. Yes, Ballmer is shite. No, he's not going anywhere... Ever.

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    5. Re:The company you keep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > If you don't own a fair amount of MSFT stock or make million-dollar IT contract purchases? Why should you then care?

      This is the upper leadership of Microsoft, whose products have an impact on your day to day life whether you use the products yourself or not.

      captcha: restrict

  3. Hard to argue with regular quarterly profits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Many of which are usually a record for the company, even if it's a company that hasn't used it's brilliant engineering talent to maximum effect. Oh wait, this is /. uh, Microsoft is Satan, all hail our savior lord FOSS.

    1. Re:Hard to argue with regular quarterly profits by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Slashdot, where Microsoft is Satan, Google is Evil, Apple is the Devil and open-source projects are pointless because thousands of programmers pulling in different directions.

    2. Re:Hard to argue with regular quarterly profits by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      and open-source projects are pointless because thousands of programmers pulling in different directions.

      Just like the universe is pointless because thousands of galaxy clusters pull in different directions...hey, wait a minute...

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  4. Steve is that you? by waddgodd · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think we found out Steve Ballmer's /. account name

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  5. What? by Antipater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . 'The mature verdict on Steve Ballmer is that he has made only one major strategic error: not combining his own brilliance for sales and detail with a visionary product leader who has the authority to create bold new revenue streams for the company.'

    I don't know a thing about Ballmer - I don't follow corporate politics. But if you dig through all the marketing-speak there, didn't that just say "Ballmer's one major error as a CEO was not doing that thing that CEOs should be doing"?

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    1. Re:What? by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I see Ballmer as the captain of a large, very slowly sinking, rudderless ship.
      Someone needs to patch up the holes, find a pump, and build a rudder. I just don't see Ballmer doing any of those things.

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    2. Re:What? by webdog314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And given that Microsoft has an 80%+ marketshare, a "largely stagnant stock price" could have been pretty much achieved by doing absolutely nothing, which, when you look at the company over the last decade, isn't far from the truth.

      So it begs the question: what in the world are they paying him for?

    3. Re:What? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And given that Microsoft has an 80%+ marketshare, a "largely stagnant stock price" could have been pretty much achieved by doing absolutely nothing, which, when you look at the company over the last decade, isn't far from the truth.

      This! Too big to fail doesn't only apply to corporate bail-outs. It also means that massive companies can ride through one period after the other of colossally stupid mistakes. If you split Microsoft up into various division then take a look at where the money is coming from, the company is surviving on it's monopoly and cash cows Windows and Office, and neither of those can be attributed to Steve Ballmer.

      We can attribute to him everything else at Microsoft. Unfortunately all those things seem to be making a loss. Search, mobile, entertainment, all of these things are what Ballmer has been pushing for in the past few years while letting the Windows and Office divisions rot and all of them can at this point be considered a failure.

      Now the real question is, given Ballmer's fetish for trying to one-up Apple and screwing Windows in the process will the company continue to survive on it's old cash cow, or will he let that slip through his hands? Honestly I don't know what the board of directors is thinking supporting the drunk at the wheel.

    4. Re:What? by jbolden · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Building an enterprise products division: SQL Server becoming very high end, Dynamics, Lync, SharePoint becoming a central component in many enterprise applications. That's Balmer's contribution and it is worth tens of billions per year.

    5. Re:What? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Building an enterprise products division: SQL Server becoming very high end, Dynamics, Lync, SharePoint becoming a central component in many enterprise applications. That's Balmer's contribution and it is worth tens of billions per year.

      What about IE, Windows 8, Bing, Zune, Windows Mobile.

      The fact of the matter is MS once owned 85% of the mobile market too with Windows CE. MS owned 90% of the market with IE. Windows was liked more and XP loyalists are still hear loving that OS and refusing to upgrade as it was perfection. Those my friend happened under Gates and were handed too Balmer.

      First Blackberry and now Google and Apple are all eating MS PDA and smartphone market. Mozilla and now Google took IEs dominance away. Bing never materialized and Apple too got rid of WindowsCE as MS planned to own 90% of the embeded and mobile market by now and iOS, Linux, and Android have taken that away.

      Those are all under Balmers watch. He deserves to go.

      Even if MS did make improvements for Windows 7 and Sharepoint it doesn't matter as there is no compelling reason to upgrade. Ms is competing with the ghost of itself as Windows 2003, IE 8, Exchange 2003, are here to stay for a very long time. That hurts and costs money.

      Windows 7 is great but took almost years to get there from XP as we know longhorn failed (vista is not Longhorn), same with IE 10 being too little as IE 6 was the last thing close to cutting edge and none of the users count as they were catch-up to Firefox.

      He failed. Apple and Google are the new kings now.

  6. On his watch by istartedi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It all happened on his watch. The buck has to stop somewhere--at the top. That's how it works. If some VP was causing problems, it was his responsibility to get rid of that VP. If it was a particularly bad market for tech, that's not his fault; but it wasn't a particularly bad market. Other companies innovated and grew. They didn't. The whole strategy became, "let's make lame Apple clones that will piss off people who prefer the traditional Windows way, and won't convert people who prefer the Apple way".

    I just don't see how the man at the top can escape responsibility for all that.

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  7. Bad CEO? No. by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    does Ballmer deserve his reputation as a bad CEO?

    Bad CEO? Throwing chairs, browbeating your employees, prioritizing squeezing your customer over making a quality product, bribing government officials all over the world to expand your regulatory monopolies while preaching laissez-faire extremism to excuse cheating on your taxes -- those things don't necessarily make you a bad CEO. By the quarterly profit measure, they make you a good one. Those things don't make you a bad CEO; they make you a bad person.

  8. Biased, much? by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I expect some MS fanboi will mod me down for this, but:

    We should begin in Silicon Valley, which resents Microsoftâ(TM)s chief executive at least in part because he has helped grow what the Internet industry has so rarely managed in all its decades of boom and bust: a stable, profitable company, built on a solid grasp of numbers and proven sales techniques, with wildly successful products that people actually pay for. Contrast that with social networking companies such as Twitter and Facebookâ"and of course Google, with its rapey contextual advertisingâ"all of which throw their users âoefreeâ toys but violate them with privacy-invading ad sales and user-data scandals. Microsoft can seem positively virtuous by comparison.

    This is pure Microsoft talking points.

    Given the most recent revelations about Microsoft, the author should be reconsidering that claim to Microsoft's virtue.

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  9. Monty Phython by Starteck81 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We found a CEO, may we burn him?!?

    All kidding aside he is not a great or even good leader. If he was half as effective as Bill Gates MS would have have only lost half of the product wars that it has. He has perpetually missed the boat on emerging trends, and then tried to chase the boat down in a runabout with a 5HP outboard motor.

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  10. Stock Price Comparison by ScottCooperDotNet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    'He stands accused of running one of the greatest companies in American history into the ground, even as its stock price remains remarkably resilient and the company continues to turn a healthy profit,' he writes.

    Maintaining a steady stock price isn't what makes the Wall Street Casino happy.

    Microsoft is down from its high in 2000 while competitors like Apple and Google are now worth significantly more than they were. Considering Microsoft's once-dominant position, it shouldn't be flat.

    Microsoft has done better than HP and Yahoo, but considering even stodgy old IBM has seen its stock price rise you have to wonder if Ballmer knows how to set a new course, adjusting to changes in tech, or just keep the ship afloat, buoyed by Windows and Office.

    Microsoft had Windows for Pen Computing, Windows XP Tablet Edition, and later Courier, but lost the tablet market to Apple and Google. They had Windows CE and Windows Mobile well before iOS and Android, but never really made inroads in the smartphone market. Leveraging their default IE homepage, they couldn't get MSN / Live.com / Bing to overtake Google. Even in successful things, like HoTMaiL or IE, they simply stopped innovating until competitors appeared, and in the process those competitors took away chunks of Microsoft's market share. That they continue to exist off the profits from Windows and Office isn't the same as thriving, and that's why Ballmer gets the criticism he deserves.

  11. Microsoft could have been more by BLToday · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So many times in the last 15 years, you could tell that Microsoft was really really close to getting it right. Just a few more revisions and they would have done it.

    * Smartphones: really an outgrowth of PDAs. WinCE (version 3 and later) bested Palm OS. Palm was crushed and what did Microsoft do? Sit there for 5 years with minimal investment in WinCE. WinMo 2003 was barely an upgrade to the previous version. I had the Jornado, HP iPaq, and the HP hw6515 (I think) smartphone. It even had GPS well before the iPhone.

    * Tablets: Bill Gates was right, we all will have a tablet in the future. It's just not running Windows. I bought the HP TX tablet/convertible. And you can tell that even with Vista, it was potentially a great device. Handwriting recognition, touch support, pressure sensitivity and decent weight. But terrible bloat in the initial Vista release made the tablet boot up in about 2 minutes on a good day and put out heat like a nuclear reactor.

    * GPS/media players: Remember all those Magellan and Garmin GPS units, and portable media players from China? They were likely running WinCE.

    * Email: Hotmail was there early on and they sat there while Google took over. I remember the 4MB account limit.

  12. Re:About your Thesis... by hedwards · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not just that, but the company has been largely coasting since Bill left. The reorganization is well over due.

    Ultimately, they had a winner with 7, and chucked all the gains that they made with 8. Considering how important Windows still is to their bottom line, they should have been more mindful to evolve the product rather than chucking everything out.

    They've also been doing abysmally at entering new markets since sometime in the mid '90s, and probably before that. Which hasn't improved under his watch. The XBox was the last successful entrance that they've made into a new arena. The Zune, windows phones and their other attempts haven't gone very well.

    The share price itself is largely a reflection of the fact that they're still hugely profitable, albeit heavily dependent upon one or two product lines which are likely to be in trouble in the future if they can't enter new areas.