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Amazon One-Click Chrome Extension Snoops On SSL Traffic

An anonymous reader writes "It turns out Amazon has its own sketchy method of snooping on all your browser traffic — even SSL traffic — through their one-click extension for Chrome. As designed, the extension reports every URL you visit, including HTTPS ones, to Amazon. It uses XSS to provide some of its functionality. It also reports contents of some website visits to Alexa. The Amazon extension has also been exploited to allow an attacker to gain access to SSL traffic on browsers that have it installed."

95 comments

  1. color me surprised by noh8rz8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    well, why the hell not I say? goog already captures your every move in chrome, so amazon may as well. not to mention NSA and China. I'll stick with Safari - at the very least Apple isn't monetizing my web surfing, so they don't have a per se motive for snooping around.

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    1. Re:color me surprised by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

      well, why the hell not I say? goog already captures your every move in chrome, so amazon may as well. not to mention NSA and China. I'll stick with Safari - at the very least Apple isn't monetizing my web surfing, so they don't have a per se motive for snooping around.

      Before too long, it's going to be easier to list the groups who don't have access to your data...

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    2. Re:color me surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here is the updated list:

      1. You

    3. Re:color me surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your comment made me have a second look at how effective Ghostery and/or Disconnect are with Safari. The answer is that they are completely useless. Even though they correctly identify tracking scripts and image beacons, the browser just goes ahead and requests them from the origin server anyway. Which renders them useless. Who cares if the browser doesn't execute the script anymore? Simply retrieving it is used to identify you in the same manner images are.

    4. Re:color me surprised by Omestes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      at the very least Apple isn't monetizing my web surfing,

      Apple was also on that NSA slide, along with Google and Microsoft. I wouldn't trust them either.

      There are no good guys anymore. Accept it, and act accordingly.

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    5. Re:color me surprised by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I agree but sadly. Society is just going to work oh so well when we have to treat everyone we meet as probable hostile.

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    6. Re:color me surprised by ahabswhale · · Score: 1

      goog already captures your every move in chrome

      Care to back that statement up?

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    7. Re:color me surprised by Oceanplexian · · Score: 1

      What's fascinating is that Apple was the last to go onboard according to the slide. Granted, I don't trust them but I wonder if Jobs was involved and in any way resisting that program.

      We always like to think of Apple as the bad guys, but clearly they could've sold out much earlier. Apple also has a good history of security (FileVault), promoting good security practices, and not giving in to law enforcement (iMessage).

    8. Re:color me surprised by noh8rz8 · · Score: 0

      naah. like i don't care to back up the fact that water is wet. are you really that blind?

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  2. surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    At this point is anyone even shocked by this? Let somebody in the door and they are going to peek in the closets if they can. Every company you interact with is recording and selling everything that can get their hands on.

    Of course nothing will come of this. Amazon is a big player, they can get away with it.

    1. Re:surprise by s1d3track3D · · Score: 4, Informative

      Update: One day after the publication, Amazon did not stop tracking, but fixed the vulnerability - the config links are now served over HTTPS. Once again, full disclosure helped the common folks' security.

    2. Re:surprise by dolmen.fr · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is exactly the same as Facebook, Google, and other social network do with their buttons. And this is in no way different from tracking by ad networks.
      Just use Ghostery.

    3. Re:surprise by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Every company you interact with is recording and selling everything that can get their hands on.

      Do you remember when companies made their profits by selling you products that you wanted, instead of just using their retail operations as a front end to upskirt your personal data and sell that to...whomever?

      Our economy has become the equivalent of a luxury hotel that makes its real profits by selling copies of your credit card swipes to hackers.

      Used to be, when a company sold products, their customers were the people who bought those products. Today, when a company sells products, their real customers are oily characters standing out back, waiting to buy copies of your credit cards. The products they sell, whether stuff on Amazon or Android games, or bandwidth are just a front for their actual, much sleazier, business.

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    4. Re:surprise by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      This is true, now you can add Amazon to that list.

    5. Re:surprise by HornyBastard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Our economy has become the equivalent of a luxury hotel that makes its real profits by selling copies of your credit card swipes to hackers.

      Wrong.
      It is a sleazy motel with cameras in every room, and the profits come from selling videos of you having sex, showering, and going to the toilet.

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    6. Re:surprise by digitig · · Score: 1

      This is slashdot. They make their money by threatening people with videos of us showering and going to the toilet. They'd threaten people with videos of us having sex, too, if slashdotters had sex.

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    7. Re:surprise by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Well, they will have videos of Slashdotters having sex ... with their hands.

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    8. Re:surprise by HornyBastard · · Score: 1

      Never underestimate the depravity of the human race. There are people who would pay to see it.

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    9. Re:surprise by certain+death · · Score: 1

      "upskirt your personal data" I almost spit ice tea on my poor old laptop on that one!! You win the internet award today!

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    10. Re:surprise by jcwayne · · Score: 1

      If only there was a button for that.

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    11. Re:surprise by certain+death · · Score: 1

      Wait...I don't remember any /.ers taking showers!

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    12. Re:surprise by icebike · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At this point is anyone even shocked by this?

      Well I was shocked when I heard that Amazon had a browser extension. I often shop Amazon, but never felt the need to install the extension. It serves no purpose.

      But don't be so sure that Amazon is going to get away with it. If this is true, it could cost them millions.
      They are not a common carrier, and have no safe harbor.

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    13. Re:surprise by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      And how exactly can a hacker drain my bank account using a Facebook 'like' button?

    14. Re:surprise by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For many, privacy has a value just like money does. Maybe not you. but many.

    15. Re:surprise by Urza9814 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well no shit. But I'm losing privacy with either vulnerability; but only one can drain my bank account. Therefore, the one that also drains my bank account is CLEARLY worse.

    16. Re:surprise by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      Your bank account is probably insured. Most likely your privacy is not.

    17. Re:surprise by Urza9814 · · Score: 1, Troll

      You are not getting this are you?

      BOTH AFFECT PRIVACY. They have the same effect on privacy. It's not a question of how much you value privacy, because privacy is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT to this comparison! Because it affects both equally. It's the same on both sides of the equation, so you can subtract it from both. Privacy + money > privacy. If privacy is 10 and money is 100, that statement is true. If privacy is 1000000000000 and money is 0.000001, that statement IS STILL TRUE.

      To go back to the post I was replying to: This isn't the exact same thing as normal ad tracking, because this gives an attacker more power. We can debate all you want about which aspects of that power is more valuable, and I'd probably agree with you, but that's a completely different topic. More is by definition not "exactly the same". 1000000000000.000001 != 1000000000000.

  3. Browser extensions by 0123456 · · Score: 1

    And this is why browser extensions are a bad idea.

  4. Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And this is why you shouldn't use the Ubuntu shopping lens.

  5. uhh why does it have a browser extension? by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    someone using it explain, please? what does one click buying need a browser extension for?

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    1. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      QUIET, CITIZEN!

      Do not question the Corporation. Do not question progress. Do not question prosperity.

      What are you, a Socialist?

    2. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here it is. Looks like it is a popup which displays various promos and has quick links.

    3. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ooh.. so it's like a modern browser bar extension. no wonder it snoops.

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    4. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      COMMUNIST!!!! *cocks hammer on gun*

    5. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so they can keep track of everything else you do... obviously

    6. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, let's say you love to shop Amazon (and admit it, you do).

      Basically this extension sees what you're trying to buy and sees if it can find it on Amazon cheaper and then popup a message saying such.

      Perhaps you're shopping Newegg and find some product you want. The Amazon thingy pops up and can tell you if Amazon has it cheaper so go shop there. Or if you're wanting to buy something and never clicked the checkout, it can pop up showing you that it's on sale.

      It's like that Amazon app for your smartphone - you scan the barcode, and tap Buy and Amazon ships it to you, all while you're browsing in the store. Except instead of just B&M stores, Amazon now does it for online stores as well.

    7. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Urza9814 · · Score: 2

      Great. So I can save $3 on the products to pay an extra $30 in shipping to get three items each from a different seller, arriving a week later than promised, all either missing important components (like the proprietary power cable that's supposed to be included) or just not working. Yeah, sounds like a real advantage there....

    8. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Omestes · · Score: 1

      I'm not the largest fan of Amazon, but I haven't really run into this.

      First, I have Prime, and generally avoid 3rd party sellers, not handled by Amazon themselves. Therefore, no shipping, or $4-5 for next day. Generally, if they are fulfilled by Amazon they come when they say, give or take a day (I mean that literally, things often come overnight, instead of in 2 days). Amazon also has a pretty good return policy, or at least I haven't had problems.

      As for 3rd party sellers, they are a complete crapshoot, as they are everywhere else. You never know their shipping times, or how honest they are. I've had some pretty nasty experiences with them.

      None of my complaints have to do with Amazon's service. I don't like how they killed local retail, or how they are the Walmart of online marketing (they set the bar low, so its hard to compete). I don't like their Kindle idea, any of it. I don't like their business practices... But they do have an awesome service, which I hate using but feel compelled to use since it is far better than anyone else out there.

      I just built a new computer, and was sourcing everything. Newegg beat Amazon on most prices but once shipping was included ($5.99 for 2-4 weeks, or $0 for two days) Amazon won, so Amazon got my money, yet again. Granted Prime is money, it still pays itself off quickly (it did with one purchase, in my case).

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    9. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, let's say you love to shop Amazon (and admit it, you do).

      I really don't. I intensely distrust Amazon since they will send me e-mails about things I was looking at on other websites.
      So this extension thing doesn't overly surprise me . . . .

    10. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You helped killed local retail, you. When you trade personal convenience over shopping locally, you destroy your local economy. This is how we got to the point where corporations wield more power than most governments. All with the consolidation of power, from cooperative people like you.

    11. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Omestes · · Score: 1

      You helped killed local retail, you.

      As did we all.

      To my credit I shopped for hardware locally (mostly mom and pop shops, may they rest in piece) until all that existed was Fry's (a cesspool), and BestBuy. I bought books at local stores, until Border's died, leaving the gloried toy-store that is Barnes and Noble. I still try to buy all my used books at local stores, though that is getting harder, since one local chain has killed many of the smaller stores, and obviously Amazon helped.

      That last bit is particularly sad, since there was a huge, ugly, grimy, used bookstore I went to for 20 years. The woman specialized in vintage science fiction, she had thousands of copies of 50's-60's science fiction all crammed, unorganized in boxes... It was beautiful, and a great way to kill an afternoon. Its gone now, along with the rest of them...

      I try my hardest to buy local, but it is becoming increasingly impossible. There is only one store in my city of 3 and a quarter million people that sells motherboards and processors. They have dubious service, sleazy commission seekers, sometimes they outright lie, they have the worst return policy known to man, and have burnt me more times than I can remember (I took back a single motherboard 5 times, last time I relied on them). So what do I do? Put up with them? Buy from Amazon, which is bad. Buy from Newegg, which isn't the most stellar company either?

      I've given up, to be honest. The local markets for specialty items is so depleted that it often takes days of searching to find something these days, when you could have it in 5 seconds of searching the internet, for half the cost.

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    12. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      Meh. Prime has always seemed a colossal waste of money to me. Then again, I don't but much online...and the "5-7 day" shipping offered by Newegg usually arrives in two (order Tuesday at 9pm and I'll sometimes have it by Thursday afternoon) so expedited shipping seems a waste too. Might be good for Amazon though; even the non-marketplace stuff usually takes around a week...but I order from Amazon about once or twice a year. Newegg maybe three or four.

      But if you have a way to hide marketplace results I'd be very interested...every time I shop at Amazon I scour their site for such an option but can never seem to find one. And it seems that 95% of the results are always marketplace...with how long it takes to filter those out, you're better off just going elsewhere since Amazon's prices -- at best -- are no more than $5 lower than anywhere else.

    13. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Meh. Prime has always seemed a colossal waste of money to me.

      It became worth it when most of our local bookstores died, and computer stores, and... It probably isn't the best for everyone, though. Part of its utility is that I share my Amazon account with my Girlfriend and mom.

      But if you have a way to hide marketplace results I'd be very interested

      Checking the show only Super Saver or Prime button works for items over a certain price, since those are generally fulfilled by Amazon, even if sold by a third party. If Amazon fulfills it, you get to deal with their service, and their returns, which is generally better than most marketplace sellers. Even when I get a good return with a marketplace seller, its generally; "if you give us more stars, we'll give you a refund", which is a bit odd, since they messed up in the first place.

      are no more than $5 lower than anywhere else.

      This is barely true anymore, now that they charge tax. Their prices, and Newegg's were pretty much identical. Though some of the items I was ordering were through third parties on Newegg, and not Amazon. This was a bit strange to me, since I've thrown plenty of cash at Newegg, and they used to be generally cheaper than everyone else, at least with components.

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    14. Re:uhh why does it have a browser extension? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you have freedom not to deal with people you don't like

      I agree comrade! So tell me, when are you going to leave slashdot for good?

      Slashdot is obviously full of collectivists with an agenda to down mod you. Why do you keep coming back to deal with them? You're only giving the socialists free content with your posts and journal entries, which they'll use against you in their collective modding.

  6. Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "through their one-click extension for Chrome"

    Avoid Google.

    Avoid Google services.

    Avoid Google products.

    All of them.

    Forever.

    1. Re:Common Sense Advice by womby68 · · Score: 1

      I'm with you... Avoid Google!!! Google is the most invasive and dangerous corporation in the world today!!!

    2. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Has anyone tried to block all Google's domains? And Amazon's. And Facebook's? And a couple of more?
      Like, defining them as 127.0.0.1 in hosts or using a proxy-DNS or something...
      I know that a lot of sites use Google Analytics (including Slashdot). Does something break (I obviously don't care if Google, Facebook, etc don't work).

      I'm going to try right now actually. July 12 is going to be my new deny-day.

    3. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.theonion.com/video/google-opt-out-feature-lets-users-protect-privacy,14358/ is the best solution

    4. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That is very incomplete advise. Microsoft has been implicated in adding *several* back-doors for the NSA. Even if Google is as evil as you think, Microsoft appears to be even more evil. Apparently Amazon is also evil. Facebook was implicated too. As were the major phone carriers in the US.

      If you value your privacy, you should avoid any major corporation in any country. And, *any* corporation in the U.S.

    5. Re:Common Sense Advice by EvilIdler · · Score: 1

      Occasionally something as simple as download links may stop working if you block Google Analytics, because the people who made the website are too stupid to simply parse weblogs for downloads. But other than that nothing of value is lost. Stock up on AdBlock, Ghostery and other goodies. Throw in Web of Trust for good measure.

    6. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also:

      Avoid the Internet.

    7. Re:Common Sense Advice by Synerg1y · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure NoScript blocks it. Analytics is JS based which is what NoScript is for.

    8. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You do realize that this is being done by Amazon's software, not Google's, right?

    9. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The shills just like to Google-bash.

    10. Re:Common Sense Advice by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed, NoScript even has a surrogate script for Google Analytics.

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    11. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noscript won't block a 0 by 0 IMG. hahahahah. Google has you.

    12. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'll break a great majority of websites using JS since a ton of them using Google's CDN hosted jquery libs. Good luck.

    13. Re:Common Sense Advice by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      Hey, they ain't payin' to bash Amazon.

    14. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AdBlockPlus will. And so will Opera.

    15. Re:Common Sense Advice by phorm · · Score: 1

      Ummm, you do realize that Amazon and Google are different companies, right?

      I do wonder why this functionality isn't in extensions for other browsers (maybe it is), but other than possibly a bad permissions model for extensions I don't think we can blame G for this one.

    16. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Someone else said it and got modded to hell.

      It's NOT GOOGLE. IT'S AMAZON. One of them starts with an "A" and the other starts with a "G". No point shooting "GOOGLE" for "AMAZON'S" cockup, unless you're a blind hater, just looking for any excuse.

      Now about the morons that modded the parent post up....

    17. Re:Common Sense Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you probably want to check white list it comes with by default.

  7. HTTPS-specific extensions by TWX · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    This makes me wonder if there'll be a general code review of browser extensions like HTTPS Everywhere and HTTPS Finder and the like. I hope that they aren't compromised.

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    1. Re:HTTPS-specific extensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      this, i see these privacy extensions and i know what they are supposed to do but how the hell do i know that the extension itself isnt spying me

    2. Re:HTTPS-specific extensions by symbolset · · Score: 0

      You should assume if you are using a computer, tablet or phone that many people are spying on everything you do and a great many more are trying to. They record everything that happens - including many details you don't understand, forever. Starting back in the 1980's at least. Maybe they should put a clear warning on the box instead of hiding it away in the various terms and eula.

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    3. Re:HTTPS-specific extensions by lgw · · Score: 1

      Well, HTTPS Everywhere ships with TOR, so either it's safe, or the FBI is keeping it a secret for something really fun.

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    4. Re:HTTPS-specific extensions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the NSA doesn't watch all the TOR exit nodes?

  8. Tesla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tesla invented Chrome and SSL. Worship Tesla you fucking bitches!

  9. I'll bet my horse on it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    that Amazon will issue an apology saying the inadvertently sent the data to their servers. And Alexa's.

    1. Re:I'll bet my horse on it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No way.
      The people that use this extension do not read slashdot and even if they did know they won't care. They did willingly install an advertising extension after all.

    2. Re:I'll bet my horse on it... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      that Amazon will issue an apology saying the inadvertently sent the data to their servers

      I don't know how many horses you have left to wager, but it would be pretty stupid of Amazon to say that when the entire purpose of the extension is to send Amazon information about what you're looking at so that they can show their price. It's the specific purpose of the extension.

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  10. intellectual property - security in the workplace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    My workplace just installed a chrome browser frame that does something like this to protect their intellectual property here.

  11. So what did he search for by L.+J.+Beauregard · · Score: 1

    such that rense.com would be the first search result?

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  12. Terms and conditions by WaffleMonster · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The Amazon Browser Apps may also collect information about the websites you view, but that information is not associated with your Amazon account or identified with you. "

    "The Alexa functionality in the Amazon Browser Apps collects and stores information about the web pages you view. In some cases, that information may be personally identifiable, but Alexa does not attempt to analyze web usage data to determine the identity of any user. "

    I find it exceptionally sick and depressing a toolbar which advertises itself to give user quick access to amazon feels a need to go one step further taking advantage of the same customer to spy on or facilitiate the spying on all of their activity. Is the amazon toolbar really not self-serving enough?

    Added *.amazon.com to my DNS block list and now I feel slightly better.

  13. Re:intellectual property - security in the workpla by Svartormr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My workplace just installed a chrome browser frame that does something like this to protect their intellectual property here.

    I hope they're not expecting it to protect their IP from Google.

  14. not that bad by dshk · · Score: 2

    Amazon does a favor with their Alexa service for the whole internet. That is the only third party global site statistics tool which provides information for free. At least I do not know any other.

    Of course they should fix the vulnerability. The real issue is that the current authorization systems only give half of the necessary information, they state what information the app access, but not what it does with those information, even though that could really make a difference. Therefore people become accustomed to give horrific permissions to any app.

    1. Re:not that bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About the same as you. It's an international currency.

  15. Re:Common Sense Advice for real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always go through a proxy like Hide My Ass or Witopia. Cheap and lets you pop out anywhere in the world. Then make sure that you put in some tools like Qlick&
    Clean and CC Cleaner that wash your browser when it closes. Also don't forget to install Ghostery; it pulls out trackers, web bugs, pixels, and beacons placed on web pages by Facebook, Google Analytics, and over 500 other ad networks. Then also run Spyware Blaster monthly to block 1600 tracking systems by placing them in the forbidden section of your browser's settings. Oh, and then run superantispyware once a month to get the trackers and adware that slipped through. Yes, it is a bother, but all these have free versions and it takes about one hour a month. If you can't be bothered about your privacy it is anybody's to take. Just sayin...

  16. File a criminal complaint by Animats · · Score: 1

    This looks like it might be a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, the part about "exceeds authorized access". File a criminal complaint with the FBI.

    1. Re:File a criminal complaint by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      This looks like it might be a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, the part about "exceeds authorized access". File a criminal complaint with the FBI.

      You installed that plugin, it said beforehand what it's doing, so it's authorized.

    2. Re:File a criminal complaint by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      This looks like it might be a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, the part about "exceeds authorized access". File a criminal complaint with the FBI.

      You installed that plugin, it said beforehand what it's doing, so it's authorized.

      Yep, wanna read something nobody has a problem with; read the ToS and Privacy Policy for www.Rovio.com (Angry Birds game being just one of their products)
      Anybody who's ever installed "Angry Birds" has agreed to not only allow data collection but it being sent to www.flurry.com for one, as well as some data being
      "sent overseas" whatever that means. By far one of the most "we collect your data and can do anything we want with it" Privacy Policy I've read to date.

      This is something you have to allow, being a mobile device most aren't Rooted (jail broken / owned) and unable to block it.

      .

    3. Re:File a criminal complaint by Animats · · Score: 1

      You installed that plugin, it said beforehand what it's doing, so it's authorized.

      Not in this case. That's the issue here. Amazon's description of what the plugin was allowed to do is inconsistent with what it actually does. That's where fraud comes in.

  17. He's slightly wrong about HTTPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HTTPS is a lot easier if you can ask a CA in the trusted chain to issue the certificate. So he listed these 3 steps:
    "hacking the CA"
    "social engineering (install the certificate) "
    "relying on click-through syndrome for SSL warnings"

    Becomes this one step
    "Ask pet CA to issue certificate"

    Which has this problem:
    https://we.riseup.net/debian/what-is-wrong-with-ssl-certificates

    Please note, therefore that WEB VOTING CANNOT WORK. If HTTPS cannot be trusted, then how could you trust the NSA (or anyone with man-in-the-middle capability) not vote for you. NSA would already know the voting preference from the 'Choicepoint' political data (used in Florida elections to scrub voters from the roll). It would be trivial to rig an election, even if you could verify all the source and all the servers and everything else. The basic secure comms is broken.

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ChoicePoint

  18. NSAAZON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    new improved corporate customers of the infamous NSA NSAAZON sells you stuff to pay the NSA for all the other snooping

  19. TOR IS NOT SAFE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FUCK this is the tenth site i see idiots yapping like it is...look up transparent proxies to see why they can SNOOP ON YOUR fucking traffic.
    YOU Need non transparent ones, AND ONES that are proven not to log ( elite ) - very rare

    pinky :hey bwain whatta ya gonna do tonight?
    brain - why pinky , we're gonna SPY on DA WORLD

    1. Re:TOR IS NOT SAFE by lgw · · Score: 1

      The evidence for TOR being safe is that, thus far, 0 people have been arrested by being de-anonymized. So, like I said, either it really is safe, or the NSA/FBI is keeping their snooping ability under wraps for something that will really make headlines. I wouldn't bet either way.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
  20. As an Alexa Guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least we give this to the NSA.

    1. Re:As an Alexa Guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least we give this to the NSA.

      Err f@#k, DON'T give it to the NSA

  21. Re:ghostery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there any value add from ghostery for those using noscript?

  22. Re:ghostery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes it allows the company to sell your data to advertisers. Look up who owns Ghostery.

  23. I haven't trusted Amazon for years. by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 2

    I've watched the last few years as more and more of my web traffic was being routed to Amazon.com, for reasons unknown.
    The more sites I visited the more links to Amazon I found (Netstat, or TCPview from systernals). I don't do any business with Amazon
    as I have to pay taxes (Washington State resident), everything comes from NewEgg.com.

    I've been blocking Amazon links (data collectors?) for all those years as well, but it's an uphill battle as more servers (addresses) are added all the time,
    they've become very persistent. I think you'll find Amazon doing much worse than just reading HTTPS pages, but that's just a personal opinion.

    1. Re:I haven't trusted Amazon for years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All this unknown traffic is because more sites use Amazon's Cloud to host their content.

    2. Re:I haven't trusted Amazon for years. by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      All this unknown traffic is because more sites use Amazon's Cloud to host their content.

      Good point.

      I put this together to show what I block Amazon wise, yet have very few problems surfing sites.

      These are just ones with "amazon" in the string. Lots are without the amazon string but too much work to sort out.
      an example would be 207.171.184.25 which hops to Smtp-fw-9101.amazon.com according to http://www.robtex.com/

      Amazon.com
      aan.amazon.com
      aax-us-east.amazon-adsystem.com
      amazon.adsonar.com
      amazon.adsonar.com
      amazon1.msn.de
      amazon2.msn.de
      amazon-giftcard.info
      assoc-amazon.com
      astore.amazon.com
      client-log.amazon.com
      cls.assoc-amazon.com
      dra.amazon-adsystem.com
      fls-na.amazon.com
      free-amazon-coupon.com
      rcm.amazon.com
      rcm-de.amazon.de
      rcm-images.amazon.com
      rcm-it.amazon.it
      rcm-uk.amazon.co.uk
      s.amazon-adsystem.com
      s1k-amazon.com
      s2e-amazon.com
      secure-amazon.net
      sis.amazon.com
      ssl-payment-amazon.com
      uedata.amazon.com
      users-logins-amazon.com
      ws.amazon.com
      amazon-giftcard.info
      assoc-amazon.com
      xml-eu.amazon.com

      I've got a lot of links with amazonaws.com blocked, amazonaws.com appears to pertain to Amazon's cloud service.

      s3-1-w.amazonaws.com
      10bet.s3.amazonaws.com
      a6522.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com
      admarvel.s3.amazonaws.com
      ads.avitu.com.s3.amazonaws.com
      adtago.s3.amazonaws.com
      adzerk.s3.amazonaws.com
      adzerk-www.s3.amazonaws.com
      alexa-sitestats.s3.amazonaws.com
      apture.s3.amazonaws.com
      assets-hellobar-com.s3.amazonaws.com
      biowebb-data.s3.amazonaws.com
      blamads-assets.s3.amazonaws.com
      bo-videos.s3.amazonaws.com
      bro1.s3.amazonaws.com
      btrpreroll.s3.amazonaws.com
      cadreon.s3.amazonaws.com
      cdnpuaf.s3.amazonaws.com
      cdx-eu.s3.amazonaws.com
      cdx-us.s3.amazonaws.com
      click.s3.amazonaws.com
      cloudfront-labs.amazonaws.com
      clutchmag.s3.amazonaws.com
      e23121.s3-website-sa-east-1.amazonaws.com
      ecommstats.s3.amazonaws.com
      entrecard.s3.amazonaws.com

      It's much more involved for me as the above just pertains to Amazon. I block all links that I shouldn't be linked to.
      FaceBook and Google are two others that are a B!tc# blocking new links to, but block them I do and still use Google
      as a search engine, email other Google services with no problems. Facebook I've no use for.