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Moto X Demo Video Reveals Google's Android Superphone

MojoKid writes with word that "A tech demo posted to YouTube shows off Motorola's upcoming Moto X smartphone, a seemingly high-end device that is sure to win over a few fans with its wealth of new tricks and features. The Moto X handset, which is launching exclusive to Rogers in Canada (no mention of U.S. market carriers) this August, will be available in black and white, but a key selling point of the device comes from its voice activated features. The tech demo heavily emphasizes Google Now, which Moto X users can engage without touching the device. In the demo, a woman is shown asking Google Now what the weather will be like in Toronto while she types away on a computer, never having to reach down to tap the handset. It was also previously leaked that the Moto X will ship with a 4.4-inch display (1280x720), 1.7GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 8960 processor, 2GB of RAM, 16GB of internal storage, 10MP rear-facing camera, 2MP front-facing camera, and of course Android 4.2 Jelly Bean." With a marketing budget said to include up to half a billion (!) dollars from Google, it's hard to imagine that any leaks are actually unintentional.

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  1. So it listens all the time... by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't see anything bad coming of this...

    1. Re:So it listens all the time... by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      In all seriousness, the level of trust people have for phone companies is at an all time low, and now you have this "handy assistant" with you all the time. While it sounds like cool technology, I don't trust ANY of the players involved, and I doubt I am the only one.

    2. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody cares. Microsoft is pulling this same record-everything crap with the Xbox One, it'll sell like hotcakes anyway.

    3. Re:So it listens all the time... by binarylarry · · Score: 2

      Not just your person but do you want to be around someone who's permanently recording everything in their area?

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    4. Re:So it listens all the time... by phizi0n · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The video only shows it doing hands free voice search when you're already in Google Now which is already possible with any Android 4.2 rom (probably anything >4.0). The voice search only activates when you say the "google" keyword which she says "okay google now..."

      The specs look pretty lackluster so I'm confused why they are calling it a "superphone."

    5. Re:So it listens all the time... by phizi0n · · Score: 1

      Apparently Google Now requires Android >=4.1 or iOS >=5.0

      http://www.google.com/landing/now/

    6. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm getting a GSM jammer. I don't care if it's illegal.

    7. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Permanently recording everything in their area? With 16 GB of storage (about 12 GB which is usable)? Right. And no, it isn't sending it to Google or anyone else - can you imagine the bandwidth charges for that? This works pretty simply - when the phone hears the keyword it wakes up and starts listening for a query. It works just like the earlier implementation of Google Now on Nexus phones except that on those phones you have to turn on the screen and open Google Now first. Then, you can say "Google" and it will start listening for a query. Not saving and permanently recording. It is all fine to be paranoid - but let's think about it a bit first.

    8. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .. undusted the old trusty Nokia 7110, cut a new double layer tin foil hat.

    9. Re:So it listens all the time... by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      My point is that with the new admission that all cell phone carriers are plugged directly into the NSA, a hell of a lot of people suddenly do care!

    10. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it'll wake up and take notice with other words too.. (you know the list of them).
      Outside of /. however the Facebook generation are posting their dick sizes and pictures of their breakfast online, they are not privacy conscientious and wont give a shit about any of this.

    11. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The specs look pretty lackluster so I'm confused why they are calling it a "superphone."

      Agreed. Some Galaxy S4 models have an eight-core processor, but this phone with an 18-month-old dual-core Snapdragon and 16GB of storage is a "superphone"?

    12. Re:So it listens all the time... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      This works pretty simply - when the phone hears the keyword it wakes up and starts listening for a query.

      What if anybody says "NSA" or "Taliban" near it?

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    13. Re:So it listens all the time... by ebno-10db · · Score: 1

      The video only shows it doing hands free voice search when you're already in Google Now

      I'm wondering if when you curse at it enough, it'll offer to file a bug report.

    14. Re:So it listens all the time... by anethema · · Score: 1

      Actually its not REALLY an 8 core, but four high speed high power cores, and four low speed low power cores. It dynamically switches between them based on your processing needs. It presents as a four core CPU to the OS.

      Agreed on the specs though, very lackluster.

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    15. Re:So it listens all the time... by aminorex · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Everyone knows it's bad. But the candy is too sweet, the heroin too lush. It is certainly possible to secure a phone, and I think there is a market for it. Meanwhile it is doable, if you have time to hack. Install AOSP. Disable E911 in hardware. The layered services which create the most vulnerabilities are generally not engineered to be resistant to use by a clean phone.

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    16. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Permanently recording everything in their area? With 16 GB of storage (about 12 GB which is usable)? Right. And no, it isn't sending it to Google or anyone else - can you imagine the bandwidth charges for that? This works pretty simply - when the phone hears the keyword it wakes up and starts listening for a query. It works just like the earlier implementation of Google Now on Nexus phones except that on those phones you have to turn on the screen and open Google Now first. Then, you can say "Google" and it will start listening for a query. Not saving and permanently recording. It is all fine to be paranoid - but let's think about it a bit first.

      Which is exactly like the XBox one, but the most vocal anti-ms slashdotters will tell you google is good and microsoft is evil therefore this product is fine but the xbox one isn't.

    17. Re:So it listens all the time... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      I think the iOS 5.0 requirement is because when Google Now was released Apple had already said iOS 5.0 was a minimum target for all app store submissions.

    18. Re:So it listens all the time... by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      We have known for years about backdoors in cellphones that can turn them into listening devices for the feds for years. http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029-6140191.html im not sure why this is somehow all of a sudden evil when the feds could tap the mic since at least 06.

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    19. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      of cause it will also wake up the phone and starting to send the query to Google/NSA.
      So it doesn't need to record everything. It only wakes up to a certain set of keywords. And it also sends text or just keep the recording and wait for a wifi connection.
      Perfectly doable. :)

    20. Re:So it listens all the time... by citizenr · · Score: 1

      No. It presents itself as 8 cores, OS decides what to do with them. AFAIK currently Linux migrates threads using cpufreq clues.
      Nothing stops you from using all 8 cores at the same time.

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    21. Re:So it listens all the time... by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

      Or just maybe this "Google Now" might be an app you can run when you want to be able to interact with your phone hands-free, and leave off when you don't?

      Ok, I get the outrage now that we all know just how pervasive the TLA spying really is, but the ability to listen in using cell phone microphones is nothing new. It's been part of the surveillance landscape for decades, well before smartphones were common.

      Schneier on Security, 2006:

      The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.
      Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set.

      http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/12/remotely_eavesd_1.html

      So fine, your phone can listen to you, just like it always could. If you don't want that, then you don't want a mobile phone, but that's nothing to do with a (possibly) handy voice activation app.

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    22. Re:So it listens all the time... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Yes, actually the specs look only very slightly better than the current RAZR HD... VERY slightly when you count that the screen size is only 4.4" compared to the HD's 4.7" (but same resolution).

      The HD also runs Jelly Bean 4.1.2. So I don't get it either.

    23. Re:So it listens all the time... by anethema · · Score: 1

      Really? Because the ARM white paper seems to indicate otherwise.

      http://www.arm.com/files/downloads/big_LITTLE_Final_Final.pdf

      "In the big.LITTLE task migration use model the OS and applications only ever execute on Cortex-A15 or Cortex-A7 and never both processors at the same time."

      Says it takes about 20 microseconds to switch at 1GHz operating frequency.

      It is invoked by setting a power state level and only 4 cores are ever presented to the OS.

      There is a type called big.LITTLE MP which presents all 8, but I've found numerous sources(http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/03/samsungs-exynos-5-octa-checking-out-the-chip-inside-the-galaxy-s-4/ to start) saying the S4 does not use this at all. Maybe with a kernel recompile it could be done, but isn't currently.

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    24. Re:So it listens all the time... by citizenr · · Score: 0

      Yes, like I said OS sees 8 cores, but it partitions load using only 4 cores at a time.

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    25. Re:So it listens all the time... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      It is invoked by setting a power state level and only 4 cores are ever presented to the OS.

      Yes, like I said OS sees 8 cores, but it partitions load using only 4 cores at a time.

      Maybe you should actually read what he wrote (and perhaps even what he linked to).

    26. Re:So it listens all the time... by rioki · · Score: 1

      So the localisation for Arabian and other middle eastern languages is preinstalled... cool.

    27. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you see someone using it just scream out load: okay google now, call 911

    28. Re:So it listens all the time... by citizenr · · Score: 1

      erm, when I write OS I mean kernel, not applications.

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    29. Re:So it listens all the time... by gr8_phk · · Score: 1

      Does the voice recognition happen on the phone, or in the cloud like Apple?

    30. Re:So it listens all the time... by phorm · · Score: 1

      This was a "feature" on Android phones from a long time ago. It used to be "Hi Android" or something like that. I know for sure I had it on one of my older android phones - I believe possible as far back as the original Milestone - but disabled it because it was a battery-eater.

      I still don't see the point, and imagine that it would still add to premature battery drain. Possibly it might be useful if you've got a device that's always plugged in, maybe a set-top box for functionality similar to Kinect voice commands (but hopefully more accurate).

    31. Re:So it listens all the time... by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Not the entire language, but translating NSA into a few dozen languages is doable.

    32. Re:So it listens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So which do you think is more likely, realistically:

      1) you will someday need E911's location finding service so that the dispatcher knows where the hell you are during a life-threatening emergency, or
      2) E911's location finding service will be used to harm you somehow.

      Place your bets now, I guess. I'm going with number (1), myself.

    33. Re:So it listens all the time... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      No. It presents itself as 8 cores, OS decides what to do with them. AFAIK currently Linux migrates threads using cpufreq clues.
      Nothing stops you from using all 8 cores at the same time.

      Well, big.LITTLE allows both - a set of quad cores where one can work or the other, but not both (simplifies scheduler logic), or as a set of 8 cores if your scheduler is smarter and can control power requirements to turn off unneeded cores.

      Though, the big thing is, you really don't want to run all 8 cores for more than a brief period of time. It turns out the limiting factor is thermal - if you even just run all 4 big cores at the same time, the chip will reach max junction temperature in just a few minutes. Without thermal control, it would overheat, and since you're using PoP packaging (with RAM on top), cooling is somewhat of a big concern.

      I've see the result of thermal analysis, and it ended up being you could run two of the four at 100%, but the other two had to be software-modulated to around 50% load, and you'd maintain max temp.

      Of course, a few minutes is all you really need if you want to benchmark - no CPU power benchmark really stresses the chip to requiring thermal amangement. Would be nice to graph out though to see maximum practical speed you can get in a certain configuration.

    34. Re:So it listens all the time... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      erm, when I write OS I mean kernel, not applications.

      That doesn't change anything. It is a paired configuration so the kernel just sets the power state using cpufreq and based on this the cpu itself will determine which 4 cores are presented to it. So I'm not sure what you're basing your assumptions on but if you were right there would be some pretty obvious patches in the Galaxy S4 kernel to support this, that kernel source is available but I've seen no such code in there.

    35. Re:So it listens all the time... by citizenr · · Score: 1

      erm, when I write OS I mean kernel, not applications.

      That doesn't change anything. It is a paired configuration so the kernel just sets the power state using cpufreq and based on this the cpu itself will determine which 4 cores are presented to it.

      No it doesnt.

      So I'm not sure what you're basing your assumptions on but if you were right there would be some pretty obvious patches in the Galaxy S4 kernel to support this, that kernel source is available but I've seen no such code in there.

      no there wouldnt be, unless you want to attach bigger battery and big cpu cooler.

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    36. Re:So it listens all the time... by phizi0n · · Score: 1

      More like "in the cloud LIKE GOOGLE." Google had voice search long before Apple ever did but Apple marketed it better and expanded it to do other things, Google Now expands the existing Android voice search to do other useful things like Siri does such as adding reminders/alarms. It is mostly cloud based voice recognition but you can use it to call people without a data connection though the local voice recognition is much worse and often wants to call the wrong person.

    37. Re:So it listens all the time... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      That doesn't change anything. It is a paired configuration so the kernel just sets the power state using cpufreq and based on this the cpu itself will determine which 4 cores are presented to it.

      No it doesnt.

      False, that is the way big.LITTLE architecture works in a paired configuration.

      So I'm not sure what you're basing your assumptions on but if you were right there would be some pretty obvious patches in the Galaxy S4 kernel to support this, that kernel source is available but I've seen no such code in there.

      no there wouldnt be, unless you want to attach bigger battery and big cpu cooler.

      Wrong again, if the kernel is presented with 8 cores and 'partitions' the load using only 4 cores then there would be specific code in the galaxy s4 kernel to do this as the linux kernel does not support such functionality. So you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

  2. Battery Drain by Internal+Modem · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "a woman is shown asking Google Now what the weather will be like in Toronto while she types away on a computer, never having to reach down to tap the handset."

    That is the type of "feature" I immediately deactivate to conserve battery. Most features added by manufacturers these days seem like gimmicks where the drawbacks are greater than the benefits.

    1. Re:Battery Drain by Solandri · · Score: 2

      Cue the "They're listening to everything you do in your home!" hate that enveloped the XBox One in 3... 2... 1...

    2. Re:Battery Drain by spire3661 · · Score: 0, Troll

      DO you honestly think these things are coincidence? The US government is HEAVILY involved in current telecomm design. They are no longer suggesting, they are ORDERING networks to be built in specific ways to be easily tapped.

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    3. Re:Battery Drain by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 2

      When I'm working on my computer, my phone is usually plugged in, so that's not an issue. My guess is you can configure it to turn on and off under certain conditions (on while charging, on and off on a schedule, always off until you turn it on, etc.) My question is this: If she's sitting at a computer, why is she asking her phone what the weather will be like? Not that it doesn't demonstrate ease of use. It does that. But how about a demo where she's putting groceries in the car or doing something else that's keeping her hands buys working something other than an information device and asks what time she needs to be at that meeting?

      Overall, those features sound pretty good. I might actually put off buying a new Samsung phone until I see this one out in the States and have a chance to see how it compares.

    4. Re:Battery Drain by symbolset · · Score: 0

      You will be glad to hear that Windows logo certification program in 2014 will include a webcam and microphone requirement.

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    5. Re:Battery Drain by Nukky+Cisbu · · Score: 1

      So the woman in the example is paying Canada's outrageous data plan fees for the privilege of doing something she could do on, you know, that computer-thingamabob in front of her.

    6. Re:Battery Drain by garyebickford · · Score: 1

      "1984" indeed - against the law to turn off or block the camera in your home.

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    7. Re:Battery Drain by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      You all really should loosen the Velcro on your shiny caps. It's cutting off circulation.

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    8. Re:Battery Drain by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      My question is this: If she's sitting at a computer, why is she asking her phone what the weather will be like?

      This is basically the "problem" I have with Google Now - it seems like you're giving them carte blanche access to all your information basically for a gimmick. I hear tech pundits rave about it - but I don't really see an advantage to having it volunteer weather info, sports scores, and the like. When I want to know those things, it's already trivial to check them. I don't want to be interrupted with unimportant factoids most of the time. With regards to appointments, the already-existing reminder systems on my computer and phone work just fine. And I really don't care about nearby businesses or restaurants unless I'm hungry... in which case it's trivial to find out about them.

      It seems like it mainly exists for people who are not very bright (which, in fairness, does include almost all tech pundits).

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    9. Re:Battery Drain by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      I've had a few really neat moments thanks to Now. Besides the obvious birthday reminders, flight updates, etc. (which are great), it's told me a couple times about new albums releasing that day (which I didn't know about but was very interested in), and even that a new episode of Top Gear was scheduled for that night.

      This is a very promising area of technology - knowing about things you want to know without you having to ask - and I'm glad to see Google pursuing it.

    10. Re:Battery Drain by Nerdfest · · Score: 2

      It also watches traffic conditions and notifies you if you should leave early for appointments, which is a pretty useful feature as well.

    11. Re:Battery Drain by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Birthday reminders? I've only had those on my computers for a decade or two.

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    12. Re:Battery Drain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a very promising area of technology - knowing about things you want to know without you having to ask - and I'm glad to see Google pursuing it.

      Change 'Google' to 'Microsoft' and put that sentence in a Windows Phone thread, I would genuinely love to see the responses.

    13. Re:Battery Drain by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      Plus it kind of sucks if you have a stammer or other speech impediement.

    14. Re:Battery Drain by russotto · · Score: 2

      You all really should loosen the Velcro on your shiny caps. It's cutting off circulation.

      Anyone still sneering at tinfoil hatters in this day and age has been living in cave.

    15. Re:Battery Drain by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      If you deactivate the feature without using it, how do you know how large the benefits and drawbacks are?

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    16. Re:Battery Drain by Internal+Modem · · Score: 0

      Because the battery lasts longer than the day before (duh).

    17. Re:Battery Drain by Internal+Modem · · Score: 1

      You have hit the nail on the head here. What we need is an AI that "learns" what we (as individuals) consider important updates, and the rest of the gimmicks can go away (turn off). The biggest problem is that this hypothetical AI would possibly use more battery than just leaving everything on....

    18. Re:Battery Drain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except Google Now has 'Cards' (Weather, Traffic) it can show you if you choose 'see more cards', and you can tell it not to show you those cards anymore. No AI needed, hopefully very little battery life used the one time you see a card and decide its not for you.

    19. Re:Battery Drain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have Google Now configured for the Traffic Card, I told it where me home address is and my Work address is, it then tells me how long the commute to work should be when I am home, and how long the commute home should be when I am at work. It tells me the time of the commute, and if that is longer or shorter than normal in parenthesis. Looking at the map that comes along with it you can see where the bottlenecks are if that helps you divert your path.

      Now if you've configured this once, you only have to look at the Card which sits in the notifications at the top of the screen. Its easier to access a Card that is configured one time than to go to a traffic site and either just see general issues, or give it enough info about your route to get specific info each time you want traffic info (2 times a day for most people?).

      Currently I have the Weather, Traffic and some Stocks configured to show up in Google Now. I had to create the 2 places for the Traffic Card, and tell the Stock Card what Ticker symbols to tell me about, I also had to tell Weather it could use my current location. That isn't really a lot of effort.

      In 2 months I will probably use my NFL mobile app a lot more, I don't know if I would configure Google Now to tell me the scores because I am probably going to DVR the game if I can't see it live and don't want to know.

      Flight times probably would be fine, a lot of people probably use the airline's app, but if you aren't brand loyal then using an airline agnostic version might be easier.

      I have Google Now configured on my Droid Bionic, I like Google Now, between that and Smart Actions (I have it configured to limit Background Data and GPS when the battery is low, and to conserve battery generally when not on a charger) I really like having configurable applets that are smarter and more helpful than traditional apps.

      As for battery, or memory used by the app, I waste more having 4G active and ~30 tabs open in Chrome.

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    20. Re:Battery Drain by orient · · Score: 1

      But how about a demo where she's putting groceries in the car or doing something else that's keeping her hands buys working something other than an information device and asks what time she needs to be at that meeting?.

      Probably, because the phone would be in her purse or pocket while carrying something with both hands or while moving around the house...

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    21. Re:Battery Drain by orient · · Score: 1

      Or if you have a foreign accent... I remember all the pain I had to get through to add credit to my pay-as-you go using Roger's voice recognition.

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    22. Re:Battery Drain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A fair point..

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  3. Advertising Budget by pitchpipe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With a marketing budget said to include up to half a billion (!) dollars from Google, it's hard to imagine that any leaks are actually unintentional.

    Or this advertisement.

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    1. Re:Advertising Budget by BenJeremy · · Score: 1

      You'd think with all those advertising dollars, they'd hire somebody not related to Aunt Bunny (Goony Goo Hoo) to promote the product. Those arms were hairier than mine!

  4. Nice but nothing special by metrix007 · · Score: 1

    These all seem like minor software updates for the next version of android.

    Where are the flexible screens, extended battery life and more internal storage?

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    1. Re:Nice but nothing special by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      You're complaining about minor upgrades and then mention more internal storage (which is about as minor as they come, its just dropping in a new part and testing). Extended battery life is really a matter of people choosing to prefer thin to life- increase the thickness 50% and devote it to a battery and you'd see a much better life. People don't tend to care (unfortunately).

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    2. Re:Nice but nothing special by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      I specifically said minor software updates, not just minor updates. There have been advances in battery design that allow a same size battery with a much increased capacity, adopting something like that in turn with the flexible screens would be a big improvement.

      Yes, increasing internal storage is minor, but it is a change people would appreciate more, especially since you can't use sd cards.

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    3. Re:Nice but nothing special by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree this isn't anything that the little iphone can't do. Hardly worth half a billion dollars in advertising.

  5. Another US device with an always on mike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do Not Want.

  6. /vertisment by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 2

    All I can see is yet another smartphone. Nothing in that video made me want to run out and buy one of these things. These smartphones are way more powerful than I need them to be which has resulted in ridiculous prices.

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    1. Re:/vertisment by isopropanol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seems an aweful lot like the exact specs of the Nexus 4, but with a slightly higher resolution camera on both sides. But Locked to a carrier. DO NOT WANT.

    2. Re:/vertisment by mjwx · · Score: 1

      All I can see is yet another smartphone. Nothing in that video made me want to run out and buy one of these things. These smartphones are way more powerful than I need them to be which has resulted in ridiculous prices.

      I'll wait for the price announcement but I'll be up for a new phone soon.

      I passed on the Nexus 4 because I had a Galaxy Nexus, the Moto "X" might be a decent upgrade if it:
      1) is competitively priced.
      2) has an unlocked bootloader.
      3) free of moto-blurgh.

      LTE would be nice, but not a deal breaker.

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  7. Great a new phone by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    Exclusive to Roger's (and of course any spy agency that feels like listening to your calls).

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    1. Re:Great a new phone by jatoo · · Score: 1

      Kind of like every other phone available.

  8. Meh by Frag-A-Muffin · · Score: 2

    Looks like my Nexus 4 ... with a Moto badge on it.

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    1. Re:Meh by isopropanol · · Score: 1

      But but but +2 megapixels! (behind a lens that could't resolve the 8mpix anyways).

    2. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Nexus 4 has a quad core

    3. Re:Meh by linuxguy · · Score: 1

      We have not seen the phone. We have only learned of a few small details. It is too early to start making assumptions about things we don't know and start complaining.

  9. Avoid google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Avoid google, avoid android, avoid microsoft windows phones. Both of these companies (Google and Microsoft) are the worst when it comes to sharing your data with the 3 letter agencies.

    Buy the Jolla phone when it becomes available or get yourself a Firefox OS phone. Yes, you may need to wait a little while, and yes, you may not get all the features you want, but it is about time we consider our rights and privacy above the next shiny thing.

    Vote with your dollars or else forego your right to speak about privacy and rights.

    1. Re:Avoid google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jolla is a company too.

      I rather run Android with open source rom like Cyanogenmod (in which, I have digged into the actual sources).

      Doesn't send anything anywhere unless I ask it to.

    2. Re:Avoid google by jkflying · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Get a Nexus. Flash it with Cyanogenmod. Be free with all the features you need. Unless, you know, they decide to tap your line at the cell tower.

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    3. Re:Avoid google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless, you know, they decide to tap your line at the cell tower.

      In that case, make sure you use a red phone to encrypt your call, just in case.

    4. Re:Avoid google by interkin3tic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's assume firefox actually won't comply with the NSA for the moment. Isn't it still a futile symbolic gesture if you actually use the phone on any network, since they all happily give up you data? AT&T has (or at least had) a broom closet that was the special NSA link room. Not to mention selling to advertisers.

    5. Re:Avoid google by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

      What's the alternative, Apple? Unfortunately, they're probably the most monitored phone in the world when it comes to intelligence agencies given so many of iPhone are out there....

    6. Re:Avoid google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jolla might be alright if their hardware wasn't so bad. put it in a nokia 920 or something and i'll take one, but what they came up with looks like crap.

    7. Re:Avoid google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not exactly "voting with your dollars", as you are sending the wrong message (buy google phones).

    8. Re:Avoid google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope.
      buy android and use custom rom. cyanogen for example.

      I really cant see NSA contacting guys on XDA to insert some backdoors to their roms...

    9. Re:Avoid google by jkflying · · Score: 1

      You're sending the message that you want a phone that can be flashed by the user without having to hack it. That's one of the main differences between a Nexus and most other Android phones...

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  10. but but but.... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    ... it's not Windows!

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  11. The response she gets... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "woman is shown asking Google Now what the weather will be like in Toronto while she types away on a computer,"

    The Response she gets are advertisements for condoms (Rain coats) and Tostitos.

  12. Speak no evil. Hear no evil. See no evil. by theodp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, what are you worrying about? If you speak no evil, it'll hear no evil. And if a future upgrade leaves the camera on all the time, just make sure it sees no evil! :-)

  13. same camera design flaw as in iPhone by edxwelch · · Score: 1

    It's a design flaw using the touch screen as shuttle button, rather than a dedicated button on the edge of the phone. It means you can't take pictures one handed. Also, pushing the screen causes the camera to move slightly giving blurry photos.

    1. Re:same camera design flaw as in iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a design flaw using the touch screen as shuttle button, rather than a dedicated button on the edge of the phone. It means you can't take pictures one handed. Also, pushing the screen causes the camera to move slightly giving blurry photos.

      Apple has listened to you and has provided this.

      As of iOS 6 you can use the volume up (+) button to take a photo in the camera app.

    2. Re:same camera design flaw as in iPhone by quacking+duck · · Score: 2

      Funny thing, I came to the exact opposite conclusion you did... maybe it's because you're "pushing" the screen? If you're using the same amount of force on the virtual button as you do on a physical one, you're using too much (unless your phone has a poor-quality touch sensor).

      On my iPhone 5 I don't need to firmly tap the virtual button, the barest touch will trigger it, meaning no additional motion gets added. Meanwhile, pressing a physical button can't help but introduce a lateral motion as it clicks, making it more likely to make photos blurry.

      Anyway it's rather moot, the volume-up button on iPhones now acts as a camera trigger so you have both options. I don't remember the last time I used it, though.

      It is also dead-simple to take photos one-handed on an iPhone, and that's what I do most of the time. In portrait mode it should be a no-brainer: index to pinkie fingers on one side, other side rests on palm, thumb free to move around. For landscape mode, extend fingers, then bring index and pinkie closer to you. These go on bottom side edges of the phone, and fingers 3 and 4 support the back to hold it in place, leaving the thumb free to press the virtual button.

      You can also start by holding it like you would taking one-handed portrait photos, then turn it 90 degrees clockwise (counter-clockwise for lefties) and slide grip down a bit so pinkie is now on the bottom edge. The thumb then automatically hovers right above the trigger button.

    3. Re:same camera design flaw as in iPhone by Nerdfest · · Score: 0

      So, you're saying he's probably holding it wrong?

    4. Re:same camera design flaw as in iPhone by BradleyUffner · · Score: 1

      More likely he's suffering from whatever illness those infomercial actors are suffering from. You know, the ones that can't seem to pour themselves a glass of water without spilling it all over their shirt.

    5. Re:same camera design flaw as in iPhone by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      The "holding it wrong" response by Jobs was inappropriate because Apple's own promo materials starting with the 2007 iPhone showed a user's left hand holding it naturally in exactly the way that could cause antenna issues.

      On the other hand, if you can't easily take a picture using the on-screen button with one hand in at least portrait mode, then yes, you're holding it wrong.

      Anyway, the assertion was that it was a design flaw and listed reasons why. One is no longer valid (even if the button isn't "dedicated" to just the camera), another is easily proven false. The last is a toss-up; he says "pushing" the screen causes more camera shake, I say a physical button does. Both are true, it depends on how you do it and how a physical button is implemented.

  14. In Soviet America, the phone listens to you. by vinn · · Score: 1

    "...it tells you what you need to know even when you're not touching the screen..." And it tells the NSA everything else?

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    1. Re:In Soviet America, the phone listens to you. by garyebickford · · Score: 1

      In the 1930s, a famous comedian/pundit (Will Rogers) said that one should "always speak in such a way that you would not be afraid to give your pet parrot to the town gossip." Maybe this is the parrot.

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  15. I'm done with smart phones by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    No battery longevity and really for daily use wtf do I need a powerfull computer in my hand for. Yes internet seach i handy but the only other thing I need is a calculator.

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    1. Re:I'm done with smart phones by linuxguy · · Score: 1

      Nobody is forcing you to use a smartphone. If you prefer dumb phones, there are a plenty of those still available. Many of us prefer smartphones because of the conveniences they offer. For example I use my Android phone for:

      1. Maps and navigation. I don't want to carry a second device for this. And I prefer the automatic updates, latitude (find out where my family members are) etc. etc.
      2. Email. I use it a lot. Personal and work.
      3. Web. Check if my flight is on time. Get quick answers on Wikipedia etc. etc.
      4. Good camera. Dumb phones don't have these. And again I don't always have a regular camera on me.
      5. Google drive. Many of my important documents are always with me.
      6. Decent games. I don't play games very often. But when I do, I appreciate something more sophisticated than snake.
      7. Video playback on large screen. Sometimes when I am travelling, I'll let my kids watch a movie on it. Its very serviceable.

      I could go on and on... Could I live without all of it. I sure could. But I could also live without a cell phone. I did in the early 90s.

      If you are trying to be a luddite, then look around. There are too many things you do not need. Stop complaining and go live with the Amish.

  16. If Moto X hears you pass gas... by theodp · · Score: 1

    ...will it bring up a Google map showing the closest bathrooms? :-)

  17. The last decent cellphone made by Motorola by fred911 · · Score: 1

    Was a team Startac. They haven't been a player since then.

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    1. Re:The last decent cellphone made by Motorola by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 1

      I still have one of those but the battery doesn't work. I always got a little squee moment when I remembered it was the same model Mulder used.

  18. Superphone? by markdavis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    >"Moto X Demo Video Reveals Google's Android Superphone"

    Superphone? Hardly. Compare to the HTC One/OneX/EvoLTE or the Samsung Galaxy S4/S3 or several other high-end models from other companies (LG, Sony) and it loses in most categories we know about so far.

    *Smaller display.
    *Lower resolution
    *Slower processor
    *Less storage (and I am assuming no SD slot either)
    *Few special features
    *No front speakers

    So it is a somewhat midrange phone by the already set high-end standards. And even LESS attractive if you find Google Now" creepy, and REALLY less attractive if you find a phone listening to you all the time and linked into Google, Google Now, and probably Google+ even more creepy. And what does listening all the time and using the main screen for notifications do to the battery life?

    It is nice to see Motorola getting back into the game, but let's not go ga-ga over the presented leaks because so far, they just don't look all THAT impressive. I am sure there is a market for a non BEASTLY phone, but this is not the "ultimate" phone, nor the solution for everyone (of course, no one phone is).

    1. Re:Superphone? by Daetrin · · Score: 2

      Please do not conflate screen size with "superphone" status.

      If you want to count screen resolution, fine, though DPI would be an even better measurement. But not size.

      I've tried the Galaxy S4. It's too big for my hands. It's too big for my pocket. It was too big even to fit in the cup-holder in my car where i currently put my Nexus One.

      I was excited about the rumors i heard a few days ago that the Moto X was going to be a superphone in a smaller package. But now i am not only disappointed by the less powerful processor and the smaller storage space (presuming there is no microSD slot) but also by the screen size, because it's so large! 4.4" may be smaller than the Galaxy S4 and HTC One, but i was really hoping for something around 4".

      For every other spec bigger is undoubtedly better, as long as you're willing to pay the price for it, both in terms of cash and (possibly, depending on the feature) battery life. However screen size, and thus the size of the entire phone, is very much a matter of preference, depending on both the size of the hands of the consumer and how they like to use it. A person with tiny hands who's okay with using their phone two handed and carrying it in a purse, bag, or holster might be fine with a 5" or larger "phablet," while an average person who wants to use their phone mostly one-handed and stick it in their pocket along with some other junk might want a much smaller phone.

      If there was a Galaxy S4 Mini or an HTC One Mini that reduced the display size (and possibly the resolution, as long as they kept the DPI) but kept all the other specs the same (same battery life, not necessarily the same mAh) then i would be all over that. But since there's not i was hoping the Moto X would demonstrate that a superphone in a small package could sell well. But instead it's (what has become) a mid-size phone with good but not outstanding specs.

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    2. Re:Superphone? by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      I assure you, it will be the superphone when some tech journalist from Engadget picks it up at a bar...

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    3. Re:Superphone? by markdavis · · Score: 1

      >"Please do not conflate screen size with "superphone" status."

      Screen size is but just one factor among many (which I provided). Of course, screens are getting crazy big now, and not everyone wants a large screen. But it is not the typical hallmark of a high-end phone to be small right now.

    4. Re:Superphone? by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      LargestPhone != SuperPhone. Why stop with the "superphones" you mentioned when the Note3 embarrasses them all?

      It's nice to see an Android phone with saner dimensions. There's appeal in a 4.5" 720p display. 330 dpi is plenty, it's the same as the current iPhones.

      "Few special features" --- really stretching there to come up with criticisms. Worried?

    5. Re:Superphone? by dfghjk · · Score: 1

      The definition of a "high-end" phone, not that there is one, is not "large". This is your problem, not Motorola's.

      Yes, there is a race towards too large, too much screen resolution, too many cores, and too cluttered an interface. Along with it comes too poor battery life and bad usability (hallmarks of Android). It's possible for a phone to be "high-end" because it avoids those issues, not because it "me toos" them.

      This phone has a larger screen and greater resolution than an iPhone5. Only a fool would say the iPhone5 is not "high-end".

    6. Re:Superphone? by Daetrin · · Score: 1

      You said it wasn't a superphone. You listed a number of reasons why you believe it isn't a superphone. One of those reasons was a small display size. Therefore you are conflating a large display size with superphone status, regardless of what other qualities you also require.

      Part of the reason large screens are a hallmark of the current set of superphones is because so many people view it as a requirement when it's really not. "It's not a superphone because a it doesn't have a large screen." and "It needs to have a large screen because the current set of superphones have large screens." Is just circular logic.

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    7. Re:Superphone? by markdavis · · Score: 1

      >"Few special features" --- really stretching there to come up with criticisms. Worried?"

      Worried??? Of course not. Want more examples?

      GS4 has temp and humidity sensors.
      Evo 3D has 3D display and cameras.
      Evo LTE has a kickstand and camera button.
      One has ultrapixels for better night vision.
      GS4 has "hover".
      Evo 3D & LTE and GS3 & 4 all have SD slots.
      Evo LTE, One, and One X all have HD voice.

      None of those are just software gimmicks, there is hardware behind it. I am sure there are many more, just picking some I can think of off the top of my head.

  19. Battery. Feature market division. by jago25_98 · · Score: 1

    I really don't like the tying of software features to specific phones. Phone manufacturers really try to push it as they know it stratified the market whereas if all the software is the same standard Android platform you can compare phones easily. This is why Android is better value than iphone - it puts phone makers into competition and they don't like it.
    I take this even further by wanting Cyanogenmod on every phone I buy so it's familiar.

    As great as this software is I'm not going to buy into something that makes phones massively more expensive by dividing the market and also giving me less choice.

    It's also probably a battery drain so I think have to anticipate automating turning it off when bluetooth pairs with a vehicle handsfree kit.

    1. Re:Battery. Feature market division. by exomondo · · Score: 1

      I really don't like the tying of software features to specific phones. Phone manufacturers really try to push it as they know it stratified the market whereas if all the software is the same standard Android platform you can compare phones easily. This is why Android is better value than iphone - it puts phone makers into competition and they don't like it.

      I don't understand, Android pushing phone manufacturers to compete is exactly what drives the "feature market division" you're complaining about.

      As great as this software is I'm not going to buy into something that makes phones massively more expensive by dividing the market and also giving me less choice.

      That's the whole point of Android, to have the OEMs differentiate by adding exclusive features, alternatively Google could just make it closed source and give it away for free.

  20. Meh by anethema · · Score: 1

    "The device boasts active updates, which translates into display notifications on the screen rather than a vague flashing LED that doesn't really tell you anything."

    Awesome. So instead of blinking a little LED to tell me the phone has gotten a message or something else of note, it leaves the screen lit up, wasting my VERY valuable battery life on these phones?

    "Moto X owners can activate the built-in camera with two quick flicks of the wrist."

    The phone getting jostled in my pocket activating the camera sounds awesome. Bye battery, hello pocket pictures!

    "Once it's launched, you can snap photos by pressing anywhere on the touchscreen rather than hunting for a dedicated shutter button"

    And how is focusing accomplished?

    "It was previously leaked that the Moto X will ship with a 4.4-inch display (1280x720), 1.7GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 8960 processor, 2GB of RAM, 16GB of internal storage, 10MP rear-facing camera, 2MP front-facing camera, and of course Android 4.2 Jelly Bean."

    Lower res screen, slower cpu, same ram, lower MP camera, and same OS as a Galaxy S IV. Unless it is like a Maxx type with super battery life, I can't imagine it being any kind of contender for a "Superphone"

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  21. What problem does always on solve? by faffod · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Being able to respond to voice commands requires the CPU to always be parsing audio input. That will have a noticeable, and negative, impact on battery life. When I want to look something up I am in a context switch already, pushing a button on my phone is not an inconvenience. What problem are they trying to solve?

    1. Re:What problem does always on solve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Making it easier to send your audio to the NSA.

    2. Re:What problem does always on solve? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      What problem are they trying to solve?

      You have some money. They want it.

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    3. Re:What problem does always on solve? by faffod · · Score: 1

      This has been a recurring theme (not just with cell phones, lots of Xbox Juan comments cover this topic also). The Feds have been able to remotely turn on your cell phone mic for a long time - long before iPhones or Androids. This feature is not needed for improved government snooping.
      http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029-6140191.html

    4. Re:What problem does always on solve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being able to respond to voice commands requires the CPU to always be parsing audio input.

      Not if you have a dedicated ultra-low-power DSP on a chip which is pre-programmed to listen for specific trigger words.

      What problem are they trying to solve?

      • Getting directions while driving.
      • Getting unit conversions while cooking and hands are covered in crap.
      • Getting weather forecast while dressing for work.
      • Finding your phone in the house by yelling for it.
    5. Re:What problem does always on solve? by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1

      Well, obviously the problem is that people using their smartphones are too quiet and unobtrusive. We need to fix it so that smartphone users are much more annoying and distracting for everyone around them.

      Rumor has it they were originally going to make it gesture-based and instead of saying "Google" you'd jump up and do the "Macarena" for the phone's camera, but there was some kind of "Kinect"-related patent on "System and method for inducing users to make an ass of themselves in view of a camera to avoid using a keyboard or touchscreen" that was in play, so they reverted back to making the users talk incessantly to the phone instead.

    6. Re:What problem does always on solve? by linuxguy · · Score: 1

      Your assumption that they are using the CPU to always listen and process wake up commands and hence use much battery power, is incorrect. Google is using special low power DSP for this that does not wake up the system until it hears the magic wake up command.

    7. Re:What problem does always on solve? by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

      You're assuming Google and Motorola engineers are not as smart as you and so have obviously missed some critical issue that only you figured out just now. Good catch.

      If companies would just read the Slashdot comments then all the world's problems would disappear.

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  22. Wishful thinking :-( by q.kontinuum · · Score: 1

    To be honest, as much as I wish you were right, I doubt it. There are still plenty of people out there who didn't even hear the name "Snowden", much less understand what it means to them. Even those few who read the news and understand it, many still think they are not really affected since they don't do anything illegal, and Government says this data is only used to capture terrorists, right?

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    1. Re:Wishful thinking :-( by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      And yet... http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/15/0220245/nsa-spying-hurts-californias-business More people do care, and it is costing people money.

  23. Seems more like an averagephone to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Outdated components and mostly lower or only equivalent specs compared to other phones. What makes this a superphone exactly other than the marketing claiming it is such?

  24. About that half a billion $... by Demoknight · · Score: 1

    Really wish they would have upped the specs on this phone's hardware and took a hit on profit like Google does with the Nexus line. We all know (as it's well publicized) that Google makes hardly any direct profit off of the sales of any Android phones let alone Nexus phones. I can't expect a company with hardware as it's focus being able to do the same... but I really don't think that they will make as big of a splash with software alone.

    I'm personally not super-obsessed with screen size on phones - I can handle 720p as long as it's high quality at that. I can deal with the shell of the phone being of mediocre materials as well - I'm gonna case it out no matter what it's made out of to protect potential resale.

        I do however believe that stereo with amplification is not too much to ask (I'm a fan of the HTC One because of this). I also think cancelling out sound while using the phone (again, referencing the HTC One here) with dual mics is a great idea and not too much to ask. Both of these features are relatively low cost and just make a whole lot of sense - so I hope this becomes standard. Sensors galore come at a price (battery) too - but I'd prefer that they all be included standard with the option to shut them off if you're going with a single unifying flagship product.

    Again, small hardware improvements that I really think should just be standard by now.

    The moto-x looks kinda "thick" and unless they're doing that to compensate for a freaking huge battery that will make this thing last 2-3 days I'd rather forgo the girth of the phone and have an external standby battery.

    Just my 2 cents.

    1. Re:About that half a billion $... by Demoknight · · Score: 2

      Sorry I really should add - I'm 99% sure I'm buying this phone on launch despite the tone of my previous post. I'm a grandfathered in Verizon customer and this will fit the bill nicely at it's rumored price.

  25. It worked out well for Microsoft and the XBox One by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    Oh wait, I didn't mean well. I meant the other thing. What was that? Oh yeah, "poorly"

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  26. Not a superphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It was also previously leaked that the Moto X will ship with a 4.4-inch display (1280x720), 1.7GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 8960 processor, 2GB of RAM, 16GB of internal storage, 10MP rear-facing camera, 2MP front-facing camera, and of course Android 4.2 Jelly Bean."

    Certainly not a superphone. More like a 2 year old phone, or next year's iPhone.

  27. They were never design flaws by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    It means you can't take pictures one handed

    I can easily activate the lockscreen camera and take a picture one handed. I do that all the time. How does having a physical button help that in any way? That aspect is all about where controls are located.

    Also, pushing the screen causes the camera to move slightly giving blurry photos.

    Which is why the camera app takes a picture on release, so you can press the "shutter", wait until you are stable as required, and then takes the picture...

    Or in OS7 the picture taking is so rapid you don't really jostle the screen before the picture is taken.

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    1. Re:They were never design flaws by Xest · · Score: 1

      No it is a flaw on both iOS and Android and it's really annoying. I know exactly what the GP is saying.

      Also annoying when you turn the camera and are about to reach awkwardly to push the button using a finger from the same hand you're holding it only to have the fucking thing rotate depending on angle and the button move to another place on the screen so you have to then try and move your hand one handed or convince it to flip back to where it was.

      It really is stupid. The people who wrote both the iOS and Android camera apps need to be taken out back and shot.

  28. I can't wait by GrahamJ · · Score: 1

    to own a phone made by the world's largest ad agency!

  29. LoL, You're missing the point ENTIRELY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The purpose of this is certainly not to solve any problem of inconvenience, although you are forgiven for thinking this since that is the marketing angle this feature will certainly be promoted under. The purpose of always parsing audio input is to ---wait for it--- collect a sh%tload of data on it users.

  30. Voice commands? by JanneM · · Score: 1

    I've never managed to make voice input useful on my Android phone. The reliability is just much too low. I use three languages: Swedish, English and Japanese, and recognition fails all the time with all three of them, including my native Swedish. I end up doing mor ekeystrokes to correct the voice input than it would have taken me to simply type it in the first place.

    But what makes it worse is that it doesn't handle foreign words at all. Try to search for "Osaka" or "Watanabe" in English (or Swedish), and you will most likely never manage to get it recognized correctly.

    I live in Japan, so I often look for local places or events, and many of my contacts have Japanese names. But with this restriction I can't use voice input for any of it. Initiating phone calls, writing emails and the rest is all basically undoable.

    Of course, I could switch to Japanese input - but then I can't look for Swedish or English names or other things. And all those nifty voice actions that are supposed to make voice hands-free use possible only work in English, and only if you've set the phone UI to English as well. Yes, really. I can't have my phone in my native Swedish, select English-language vioce input and have actions work.

    So the only thing that would possibly interest me about this feature is how to turn it off permanently.

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    1. Re:Voice commands? by linuxguy · · Score: 1

      Some people have more success with voice input on Android than others. My wife and I both have Samsung Galaxy S4 phones. She uses voice input most of the time. It works well for her. I use the keyboard. It works reasonably well for me too, but the few times it does not, it annoys me.

      Do not chalk it up as a failure when it does not work well for people like you and I. There are too many others who like it and use it daily.

  31. Re:It worked out well for Microsoft and the XBox O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the product isn't even out yet! but then again based on your history its pretty obvious that you'll do anything to please your apple overlords. if they aren't paying you then they should be with the amount of shilling and astroturfing you do around here.

  32. Yes Jolla is a company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But it's not a US company! That is the important difference.

    What good is Cyanogenmod if you don't own your own data? With CM and Google apps you still lose. Unless you poison the data collection in some way (fake location, fake searches, fake contacts, take calendar, ...)

  33. Not an upgrade from the Razr Maxx HD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have the Razr Maxx HD. I love it. When it came out, it really was a super-phone for its time. I've been using it for what feels like forever now; my ridiculously rapid phone upgrade cadence (about one every 3 to 6 months!) has stopped dead in its tracks as soon as I got this device. It simply meets my needs. It's not perfect, but it has proven to be extremely durable (without an Otterbox), and is generally there when I need it. I'm a heavy phone user, typing out forum posts, email, RDP, tethering, MLB At Bat (variously audio and video), Netflix, etc. and I definitely push the limits of my unlimited data plan.

    The Razr Maxx HD, however, has been plagued by a few problems that I had hoped they could resolve either in an OTA or in a successor device, which I enumerate below. Judging from the leaked specs of the Moto X, it is looking extremely unlikely that the Moto X would be an upgrade by any definition of the word, and this is extremely disappointing and frustrating to me, because I had hoped to retain brand loyalty to Motorola for bringing me such a (relatively speaking) long-lasting device in the Razr Maxx HD. Instead, it looks like I'll be jumping ship to Samsung for my next phone purchase once I psychologically break down from being unable to withstand another choppy bluetooth song playback on this phone.

    1) The bluetooth audio is terrible. Either due to background tasks, bad drivers, bad task scheduling, or some combination, it skips and pops all the time. It's not dependent on which bluetooth client is receiving the audio, either: I've tried my car stereo, my bluetooth headset, and a portable bluetooth speaker, and they all have the same symptoms. I was hoping that a switch to a more capable processor might help it task switch better between background sync tasks and bluetooth audio; I also figured there's a distinct possibility that the bluetooth chipset in the SoC might just be bad. However, and this is a colossal disappointment, Motorola's next-generation phone uses the EXACT SAME CHIPSET -- down to the exact processor model -- that the Razr HD / Maxx HD uses! This is an incredibly foolish move in my opinion, as it shows that Motorola is not committed to pushing the envelope in the technology of their phone, and are comfortable sitting on their laurels and using last year's processor. It also gives Razr HD owners EXACTLY ZERO motivation to upgrade.

    2) The battery life, despite having an enormous battery capacity in terms of mAh, is not all that great. There are phones with 2100 mAh batteries with the same or slightly better battery life. The battery life can be extended tremendously by turning off background data, turning off data, going into airplane mode, or disabling all background sync tasks, or any combination of these; but I feel that doing so seriously limits the utility of the phone, as I'm one of those people who actually LIKES the sync features of the phone, and having data and cellular voice always enabled keeps me wired in. Also, the screen drains an ungodly amount of energy when it's on, eclipsing even the power consumption of the LTE chipset, which is no slouch either. For a screen of this quality and size, it seems to use way more energy than it should, compared to other high-end smartphones. Now, granted, it's quite possible that the Moto X may improve upon the screen's power consumption, but that may be negated by having the mic and voice recognition processing always on.

    3) Although it's way more power-efficient than LTE, the WiFi chipset leaves a lot to be desired. WiFi Direct appears to be broken, even to other Motorola smartphones, and the reception is below par. I was hoping that 802.11ac support would help address that in the successor phone, but nope, Motorola is sticking with the tired old Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, instead of the new 400/600/800 series with 802.11ac.

    The only thing I think the Moto X may improve upon is the general responsiveness of the phone. I can see them making software tweaks in the operating system and the graphics driver that would

  34. S3 and many other phones already do this... by rjr162 · · Score: 1

    Whoever wrote the article or submitted it here on Slashdot must not be too heavily involved with Android devices or the news and specs going on...

    1. Re:S3 and many other phones already do this... by linuxguy · · Score: 1

      S3 and other phones do not have this feature. The S3 does not listen for commands when the screen is turned off. And to the best of my knowledge no other phones at this time do this.

  35. yeah! surfaces even rollerbalds can use: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this should improve all road surfaces ALOT: everytime "you get flicked two times" running
    over a pothole with the phone in your car/pocket it will take a geotaged photo. awesome!

  36. The voice features are nice, but... by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

    Anything that doesn't have a 1080p display and a quad-core (or more) CPU doesn't qualify as a superphone in the current market.

  37. Design by pandafs2 · · Score: 1

    Dear Google, if I wanted to buy soapbox with screen - I can go to Samsung. If I wanted to buy a brick with patented rounded corners - I can go to Apple. But where should I go now to buy that unique design that I always had with Motorola?

  38. iOS camera app does not rotate by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Also annoying when you turn the camera and are about to reach awkwardly to push the button using a finger from the same hand you're holding it only to have the fucking thing rotate...The people who wrote both the iOS

    Nice story bro.

    Except the iOS camera app, does not rotate even if you tilt the phone... or at least it doesn't on iOS7 and I don't remember it doing that on iOS6.

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  39. Re:It worked out well for Microsoft and the XBox O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I do is call 'em like I see 'em.

    You want the truth? You obviously can't handle the truth. Because I gave it to you and you just whine like a little baby.

  40. Google at odds with itself by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 1

    Why is this not the next Nexus 4? Why would Google create the Nexus brand, only to promote a Motorola phone as? Why would Google compete with themselves? Why does every Android phone have to have a slightly different set of features and OS versions? Why wouldn't touch-less voice be a part of every Jelly Bean phone?

    Would someone please send Google a big crate of Ritalin so maybe they can focus on one business strategy in the phone market that makes sense?

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  41. Black and white only?! by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 1

    Apologies to everyone for my late arrival, but I note that no one seems to have picked up on the fact that this phone is only available in black and white!

    Clearly Motorola have some catching up to do with the likes of Appel and Sumsang.

    Could this be the reason they're only trying to sell it in Canadia?