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Kernel Dev Tells Linus Torvalds To Stop Using Abusive Language
darthcamaro writes "The Linux Kernel Development Mailing List can be a hostile place for anyone. Now Intel developer Sarah Sharp is taking a stand and she wants the LKML to become a more civil place. Quoting her first message: 'Seriously, guys? Is this what we need in order to get improve -stable? Linus Torvalds is advocating for physical intimidation and violence. Ingo Molnar and Linus are advocating for verbal abuse. ... Violence, whether it be physical intimidation, verbal threats or verbal abuse is not acceptable. Keep it professional on the mailing lists.'"
The entire thread is worth a read, but Linus isn't buying it: "Because if you want me to 'act professional', I can tell you that I'm
not interested. I'm sitting in my home office wearing a bathrobe. The
same way I'm not going to start wearing ties, I'm *also* not going to
buy into the fake politeness, the lying, the office politics and
backstabbing, the passive aggressiveness, and the buzzwords. Because
THAT is what 'acting professionally' results in: people resort to all
kinds of really nasty things because they are forced to act out their
normal urges in unnatural ways.'
He also offered cookies in exchange for joining the dark side. An earlier reply by Linus further explains why he thinks it is OK to be mean: most of the time, he's only yelling at people who should know better (cultivating a crew of lead developers bound to him by Stockholm Syndrome?).
He's turned into the Justin Bieber of developers.
Sarah:
> Let's discuss this at Kernel Summit where we can at least yell at each
> other in person. Yeah, just try yelling at me about this. I'll roar
> right back, louder, for all the people who lose their voice when they
> get yelled at by top maintainers. I won't be the nice girl anymore.
>
Linus:
That's the spirit.
Greg has taught you well. You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me.
Come to the dark side, Sarah. We have cookies.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Sarah: Hey assholes, let's not be so mean, ok?
Linuz: bitches, please.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
I find that language offensive. Please use the word 'appendage'.
Linus becoming polite on his e-mails is going to happen right after the Linux kernel gets ported entirely to C#.
My standard reply for this kind of issue is, simply linking this 3sec video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmnN3eVMWgA
morcego
I think personal attacks or claims of improper professional conduct should NOT be made anonymously, fyi. It makes me wonder what kind of a person and background you are coming from for resulting to ad-hominem...
Well eat shit and fuck off then. Linus can do the same.
that's "whose", you illiterate twit !
The Cloud - because you don't care if your apps and data are up in the air.
I'm sitting in my home office wearing a bathrobe.
Linus is one beard away from becoming RMS.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
If Sarah cannot stand the heat, she should go back to the kitchen.
See - now that is political incorrectness.
Nah, more like: "Behave like everybody else and stop playing the victim card every time somebody says or does something you don't like. The world won't adapt to your needs, princess."
"Linus, eat a Snickers."
"WHYYYYYY?!?"
"Because you turn into Steve Jobs when you're hungry."
*om nom nom*
"Better?"
"Better."
You spelled Apple wrong. Also, Dell, Sun, and Oracle.
Most big time managers act like that. It doesn't excuse the behavior.
Either way, Jobs is still dead and all his screaming and abusiveness didn't let him live one second longer. His money isn't very useful to him now.
I'm cool with that.. so long as he doesn't reach for a concealed chair when he's upset.
sounds exactly both of my ex-wives....
never bring a twinkie to a food fight.
Absolutely. When people criticize Michael Jackson for allegedly molesting children, I tell them the exactly same thing. It's a fact of life. It's impossible to make music that great without touching a few kids. Likewise it's impossible to write some code without impersonating a high school.
Honey Badger don't care. Honey Badger don't give a shit.
"The Adobe Updater must update itself before it can check for updates. Would you like to update the Adobe Updater now?"
Shut up. You're fired.