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Psychopathic Criminals Have "Empathy Switch"

dryriver writes "Psychopaths do not lack empathy, rather they can switch it on at will, according to new research. Placed in a brain scanner, psychopathic criminals watched videos of one person hurting another and were asked to empathise with the individual in pain. Only when asked to imagine how the pain receiver felt did the area of the brain related to pain light up. Scientists, reporting in Brain, say their research explains how psychopaths can be both callous and charming. The team proposes that with the right training, it could be possible to help psychopaths activate their 'empathy switch', which could bring them a step closer to rehabilitation. Criminals with psychopathy characteristically show a reduced ability to empathise with others, including their victims. Evidence suggests they are also more likely to reoffend upon release than criminals without the psychiatric condition."

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  1. With the right training, huh? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about we hold their eyes open and force them to watch horrific, violent videos, preferably multiple at a time.

    1. Re:With the right training, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They'll be cured all right.

    2. Re:With the right training, huh? by Immerman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Isn't the whole point the fact that they can turn off empathy/have it off as a default state? Without empathy what would be the point of horrific imagery other than discouraging them from turning it on, and maybe give them a thrill if they get off on violence?

      It seems to me the whole idea of "rehabilitation" here is shaky at best - as a general rule our society rewards psychopathy quite readily with power, wealth, and sex. So what's in it for the self-interested psychopath you want to rehabilitate? It may be that they can learn to "turn on" the switch for sustained periods to get themselves cleared as rehabilitated, but unless the switch were somehow magically locked in place why wouldn't they just "turn it off" again once they were free?

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    3. Re:With the right training, huh? by Type44Q · · Score: 3, Funny

      How about we hold their eyes open and force them to watch horrific, violent videos, preferably multiple at a time.

      I doubt that would've caused them to vote differently yesterday...

    4. Re:With the right training, huh? by draconx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      listening to Mozart, with eye drops in order that their eyes won't wither ? Sorry Dude, It's been already tried ...

      Nobody's tried Mozart; only Ludwig van Beethoven.

    5. Re:With the right training, huh? by jason.sweet · · Score: 5, Funny

      Holy fuck YOU'RE dense. Were you born without the ability to comprehend humor?

      He probably switches it on and off at will.

    6. Re: With the right training, huh? by MickLinux · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nonetheless, empathy training does work.

      When one of my children got caught bullying -- and that is one psychopathic behavior that MANY practice -- I searched for the right response, and came up with a book called "Small criminals among us: how to recognize and change children's antisocial behavior, before they explode."

      The methods -- and there are multiple -- are all about empathy training.

      My experience? Between that, and allowing a heavy use of the (Catholic) confessional, and a focus on the Christian aspects, that child is much improved. The book was very helpful.

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    7. Re:With the right training, huh? by davester666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      So why don't we do that instead of electing them to public office or making them executives in the banking industry?

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    8. Re:With the right training, huh? by ArhcAngel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're missing the point. It's important that these scientists do the research because it provides a reason to beg for funding for the research. That is essentially the only possible benefit from this train of thought...

      While I am of the same cynical cloth you seem to be cut from there is the possibility they could discern what chemical process happens in the brain to turn it on and synthesize a serum that the psychopath would then be induced to take once released to prevent the switch from turning back off. I'm sure many pharmaceutical firms would fund that research.

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    9. Re:With the right training, huh? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So why don't we do that instead of electing them to public office or making them executives in the banking industry?

      Because there is evidence that psychopaths actually make better leaders. There was an article about this a couple months ago in the Economist. By ignoring the suffering of individuals, psychopaths are able to focus on bold action for the greater good. This is especially apparent in war time, where compassionate leaders are often dithering and indecisive, leading to a prolonged war and many more deaths and wounds than needed.

  2. Would this training work... by NickDanger3rdEye · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...for politicians?

    1. Re:Would this training work... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They already know how to turn empathy on and off. When campaigning, turn empathy on. When legislating, turn empathy off.

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    2. Re:Would this training work... by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 4, Informative

      For example: Tax the rich 90%. That sounds good to me, it should solve a lot of problems... However... if these people are taxed too much they will move to more tax friendly areas, move jobs out of the area, and in general make things worse in the long run.

      Funny...that's exactly what happened after we reduced the tax burden from the rich down from 90%.

      I was going to say you sound like you've fallen for some propaganda, but then you said the following and now I don't think you know what you're talking about at all:

      Trickle down doesn't work when you give the rich more money. But it does work if you take it away from them.

      Trickle-down economic policies don't work, but they do work when you don't implement them???

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    3. Re:Would this training work... by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As long as you make sure that gone is gone, that is, they don't get to leave and still do business here, the vacuum left by their departure becomes an economic opportunity for the rest. It's not as if these people are the only ones who possess the ability to run a business and employ people.

  3. normal people can probably do it too by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    kind and good normal people have been known to turn it off under certain conditions, too fight or defend against that which they believe "evil"

    maybe studying that reaction could help with the psychopath problem

    1. Re:normal people can probably do it too by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think this is mainly to do with tribalism, which is a very very ancient set of instincts (we share them to a large degree with the other apes, just look at how chimp tribes behave towards each other). People are built to fit themselves into kin groups, which works pretty well when you're talking about relative small societies of a hundred or a few thousand individuals. Essentially it is an "us vs. them", "friend vs. stranger" recognition system.

      If someone is seen as a stranger, they are a potential threat, and actions can be taken against them that one would not take against a member of one's own kin group or society (this is why murder of a relative or close friend is still seen in most societies as a much higher crime than murder of a stranger or an acquaintance). Through the ages demagogues have been able to manipulate this basic tribal instinct to group people based upon relationship to further all sorts of atrocities. Whether it's persecution, exile, slavery or genocide, once you've convinced a populace that your desired target group is somehow alien, you can convince that populace to do almost anything.

      It's as the old story goes (and time for the Godwin); Hitler convinced an entire nation made of up people who adhered to a religion whose basic tenet was "love thy brother" that persecution and ultimately murder of millions of members of ethnic groups (Jews and Roma in particular) was perfectly fine, and yet even Hitler was a vegetarian who loved his dogs.

      Whether this "empathy switch" in psychopaths is related to that I don't know. Obviously even in normal people there is a way to trigger the dehumanizing of groups if they can be convinced that they are alien threats. Mind you even look like genocides like the Jewish Holocaust or the Rwandan genocide, there was long standing prejudice and mistrust against the targeted group, so it's not as if appeared out of nowhere.

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  4. why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why would anyone ever voluntarily suffer on behalf of another?

    1. Re:why? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The answer is, populations with the compulsion to sacrifice themselves on behalf of the group are more likely to reproduce themselves and abide, while populations without this compulsion are more likely to see their population decline and cease to exist.

      The existence of human beings is a testament to this. We, ourselves, are a culture of cells that work together and sacrifice themselves for the good of the culture. When they stop doing so, the composite being that we are dies, and ALL the cells that make us up also die.

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    2. Re:why? by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because that sort of behavior has evolutionary advantages for the species.

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  5. That reminds me of by GeekWithAKnife · · Score: 3, Insightful


    ...how soldiers can kill people without remorse and then still be good dads

    Is being a "psychopath" really just an old term that means "sociopath" and is apparently 1 in 200 men? -often ruthless and in leadership positions?

    Trailing thought, are internet trolls like this?

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    1. Re:That reminds me of by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Military killing depends a lot on dehumanizing foes. Battlefield terminology for foes almost always takes the form of a very non-human noun, whether it's "targets", "hostiles", or "alpha", the words that are used are never words that inherently imply personhood. There's a well-researched book about how this corresponds to good people being capable of terrible things.

  6. Re:How would you know by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, if they don't want to go back to their seat in congress after the treatment, they're better.

  7. Re:How would you know by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They simply won't accept that some people are born evil and need to be locked up for life or executed for the safety of the public. And many people have paid the price for that arrogance.

    You dismiss religious absolutism, but you're willing to accept the idea of someone being unavoidably "evil"? Do you realize how subjective that is? How hypocritical? Not everyone who disagrees with you does so because they are incapable of compromise, sometimes it's because you are.

  8. Interesting by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Robert Hare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_D._Hare is an expert in psychopaths. He said that was asked to work on therapies for psychopaths to get them to rehabilitate. He said he wanted to develop a program that appeals to their self-interest to not engage in criminal or bad behavior. If they do have an "empathy switch" that would be a good thing. You would have to convince the psychopath that it is in their best interest to leave it on.

  9. Obligatory by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Data: Captain, I believe I am feeling... anxiety. It is an intriguing sensation. A most distracting...
    Picard: Data, I'm sure it's a fascinating experience, but perhaps you should deactivate your emotion chip for now.
    Data: Good idea, sir.
    [beep]
    Data: Done.
    Picard: Data, there are times that I envy you.

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  10. Empathy isn't always good by PPH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People with Aspergers (ASD) display limited empathy with others. Not the psychopaths' ability to switch it on and off. It is just lacking.

    Fake empathy is often used by con artists and sociopaths to manipulate people. And in some cases, people with Aspergers are more able to see through such social engineering than other people. There is an interesting story in The Big Short about an investor/fund manager who saw through the Wall Street bullshit surrounding mortgage backed securities and shorted them, making millions of dollars for himself and his clients.

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  11. Re:How would you know by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And, we've discovered that certain kinds intervention before age 18 is really effective at decreasing crime rates among these people. And notably, in spite of the fact that we have all these awesome criteria, less than 10% of those who meet our best criteria ever really do anything wrong. NOVA had a fascinating documentary about it. (I'm at work and can't verify that's the right video). If we could trivially split people into categories of "future murderer" and "non-murderer" it wouldmake life easier, but we cannot.

  12. Mod parent up. by bussdriver · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Furthermore, psychopaths NEED to be identified as mental cases and not criminal cases! We lock people up in an overly simplistic system that fails to work with the real world; we never address the root problem: The criminal system needs to deal with mental illnesses (that includes addiction) as disease and not as debts to be paid to society. It is not business nor should it ever be thought of like a business. Pedophiles for example, should be put into mental hospitals and NEVER released until safe... not automatically released after their "debt" has been paid.

  13. slashdot, fix yer damned scripts by anyaristow · · Score: 4, Informative

    Way OT but I'm really sick of this...

    A script on the fsdn domain is causing command-click on links to load both the new tab and the original tab with the destination URL. Both firefox and safari.

  14. Peace in our time! by TiggertheMad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your opinion is that of an armchair historian, with a very different perspective than leaders at the time had.

    It could be said that Neville Chamberlain was a compassionate leader...

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